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Steve Bannon on ‘Broligarchs’ vs. Populism

2025/1/31
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Steve Bannon: 我认为那些科技寡头,比如马克·安德森,实际上是进步左派。他们不是真正的保守派,而是利用民粹主义运动来巩固自己的权力。我认为他们信奉技术封建主义,这意味着他们希望建立一个由科技精英统治的社会,而普通人则沦为数字农奴。我认为进步左派与这些科技寡头达成了交易,允许他们成为最富有的人,并建立一个种族隔离的州,以换取他们对美国霸权的贡献。他们不关心普通人,只关心自己的利益。我认为我们必须阻止他们,否则将摧毁世界。 Steve Bannon: 我认为硅谷的种族隔离状态是技术封建主义的体现。他们宁愿从国外进口契约奴工,也不愿雇用美国公民。他们认为美国公民不够聪明或不够勤奋,但事实并非如此。他们只是想降低劳动力成本,并建立一个由科技精英统治的社会。我认为我们必须打破硅谷的垄断,并确保美国公民有机会获得就业机会。 Steve Bannon: 我认为超人类主义是技术封建主义的另一个方面。超人类主义者寻求通过人工智能、机器人技术等手段来实现永生,但他们是无神论者。他们不关心人类的价值,只关心自己的利益。我认为我们必须抵制超人类主义,并确保人类的尊严得到维护。

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This chapter introduces Steve Bannon, outlining his diverse background and career trajectory, from the U.S. Navy and Goldman Sachs to Hollywood, Breitbart News, and his role in the Trump administration. It also touches upon his populist and nationalist views, his convictions, and his current criticisms of figures like Elon Musk.
  • Steve Bannon's diverse career path
  • His role in Trump's 2016 victory
  • Bannon's self-identification as a populist and nationalist
  • His criticism of the 'tech right' and Elon Musk

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This week, Ross Douthat talks to Steve Bannon, the chief strategist from Donald Trump’s first term and part of the original MAGA movement. Despite his clashes with new factions emerging in the Republican Party, Bannon argues that Trump is still central to advancing a populist agenda.

*(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) *

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