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特朗普与泽连斯基在白宫发生激烈争吵 - 3月 01日,2025年

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泽连斯基:俄罗斯自2014年以来持续侵略乌克兰,造成大量人员伤亡。尽管与俄罗斯进行了多次对话并签署了停火协议,但俄方并未遵守承诺,继续发动袭击。乌克兰需要持续的国际支持来对抗侵略,结束战争。美国提供的援助至关重要,但乌克兰人民付出了巨大牺牲,并持续为保卫国家而战斗。泽连斯基强调了乌克兰人民的韧性和决心,并表达了对未来和平的渴望,但同时坚称乌克兰不会屈服于侵略。 JD万斯:乌克兰应该对美国提供的巨额资金和军事援助表示感谢。美国在乌克兰战争中发挥了关键作用,如果没有美国的帮助,战争可能在短期内结束。万斯批评泽连斯基在白宫与美国媒体争论,认为这是不尊重的行为。他认为泽连斯基政府面临着人力短缺等问题,应该专注于结束冲突,而不是在公开场合与美国总统发生争执。万斯还质疑乌克兰政府是否充分利用了美国提供的援助,并强调了美国在维护全球和平与稳定方面的作用。

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So he occupied our parts, big parts of Ukraine, part of East and Crimea. So he occupied it on 2014.

During a lot of years, I'm not speaking about just Biden, but those time was Obama, then President Obama, then President Trump, then President Biden, now President Trump, and God bless, now President Trump will stop him. But during 2014, nobody stopped him. He just occupied and took. He killed people. You know what the contact line is?

2014. 2014. I was not here. That's exactly right. Yes, but during 2014 until 2022,

The situation was the same. People were dying on the contact line. Nobody stopped him. We had conversations with him, a lot of conversations, bilateral conversations. And we signed with him, me, like a new president in 2019, I signed with him the deal. I signed with him, Macron and Merkel, we signed ceasefire.

Ceasefire. All of them told me that he will never go. We signed him gas contract. Gas contract. Yes, but after that, he broken the ceasefire. He killed our people and he didn't exchange prisoners. We signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn't do it.

What kind of diplomacy, J.D., you are speaking about? What do you mean? I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country. Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the President for trying to bring an end to this conflict. Have you ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have?

I have been to... Count one. I've actually watched and seen the stories and I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President. Do you disagree that you've had problems?

A lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning. First of all, during the war, everybody has problems.

Even you, but you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future. God bless. You don't know that. God bless. You don't know that. God bless. You will not have the war. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. I'm not telling you. Because you're in no position to dictate that. That's exactly what you're doing. You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.

We're going to feel very good. We're going to feel very good and very strong. You're right now not in a very good position.

You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position and he happens to be right about it. You're not in a good position. You don't have the cards right now. With us, you start having cards. Right now, you're playing cards. You're playing cards. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with World War III. You're gambling with World War III. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country.

That's back to you. Far more than a lot of people said they should have. Have you said thank you once this entire meeting? No, in this entire meeting, have you said thank you? You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country.

Please, you think that if you will speak very loudly about the war you can... He's not speaking loudly. He's not speaking loudly. Your country is in big trouble. Can I ask, sir? No, no. You've done a lot of talking. Your country is in big trouble. I know. You're not winning. You're not winning this.

You have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us. Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong from the very beginning of the war. We've been alone, and we are thankful. I said thanks in this cabinet. You haven't been alone. We gave you, through the stupid president, $350.

billion dollars, we gave you military equipment and you men are brave but they had to use our military. If you didn't have our military equipment, if you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks. In three days. I heard it from Putin. In three days. This is something new. Maybe less. In two weeks. Of course, yes. It's going to be a very hard thing to do business like this. I tell you. Just say thank you.

I said a little time secret to American people. Except that there are disagreements, and let's go litigate those disagreements rather than trying to fight it out in the American media when you're wrong. We know that you're wrong. But you see, I think it's good for the American people to see what's going on. I think it's very important. That's why I kept this going so long.

You have to be thankful. You don't have the cards. I'm thankful. You're buried there. People are dying. You're running low on soldiers. Listen, you're running low on soldiers. It would be a damn good thing. Then you tell us, I don't want to cease fire. I don't want to cease fire. I want to go and I wanted this. Look.

If you could get a ceasefire right now, I tell you, you'd take it so the bullets stop flying and your men stop getting killed. Of course we want to stop the war. But you're saying you don't want a ceasefire. But I said to you, with guarantees. I want a ceasefire because you'll get a ceasefire faster than an agreement. Ask our people about ceasefire, what they think.

That wasn't with me. That wasn't with me. That was with a guy named Biden who was not a smart person. That was with Obama. Excuse me. That was with Obama who gave you sheets and I gave you javelins. I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks. Obama gave you sheets. In fact, the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins. You got to be more thankful.

Because let me tell you, you don't have the cards. With us, you have the cards. But without us, you don't have any cards.