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Active Management Still Matters in Emerging Markets | Jamie Carter

2024/12/10
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Jamie Carter: 本人职业生涯早期在大型资产管理公司工作,后转向精品投资公司Oldfield Partners,负责运营、财务和业务拓展等非投资工作。在Oldfield Partners期间,公司资产规模从零增长到顶峰时的60亿美元,主要客户来自北美。离开Oldfield Partners的原因是公司已成熟,完成了第一次继承,本人希望寻求新的挑战和增长机会。在Variis Partners,我们采用单一策略,由创始合伙人共同投资,以确保利益一致,避免外部干扰,并严格控制规模,目标管理规模约为50亿美元。投资团队由三位投资经理组成,他们拥有不同的背景和经验,这有助于在决策过程中获得多元化的视角。我们采用自下而上的投资方法,不依赖基准,重点关注高质量的企业,并注重投资组合的多元化。新兴市场仍然是主动管理的理想场所,因为市场效率低下,存在阿尔法机会。在英国成立基金的难度越来越大,监管越来越复杂,融资也更具挑战性。与英国相比,美国市场对精品店更友好,更愿意投资专注于特定领域的精品店。投资精品店早期失败的主要原因是缺乏充分的规划,没有明确目标客户和市场定位,以及对运营成本的过度关注。成熟的投资精品店面临的主要挑战是人员更替和过度扩张,这可能导致策略分散、资源紧张和客户服务效率低下。并非所有主动型基金经理都表现不佳,一些专注于特定领域的小型精品店表现优于大型公司。 Max Wiethe: 主要负责引导访谈,提出问题,并对Jamie Carter的观点进行回应和补充。

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Why did Jamie Carter leave his previous firm after 15 years?

Jamie Carter felt stale after 15 years and wanted to try something new, get his entrepreneurial juices flowing again, and focus more on the business development side. He also considered the firm's succession and the changes in the market as factors.

Why is emerging markets still a strong area for fundamental active management?

Emerging markets remain inefficient, with significant alpha opportunities due to diverse languages, local cultures, and state-owned or state-influenced companies. Active managers can identify and navigate these complexities better than passive or quantitative strategies.

How does the team at Varus manage decision-making in emerging markets?

Varus has a three-person investment team that works together for collective decision-making. Each member brings diverse geographical and sector expertise, ensuring a well-rounded perspective and reducing the risk of overlooking key points.

Why is raising capital in the UK more challenging compared to the US?

Raising capital in the UK is more challenging due to increased regulation, higher costs, and the disappearance or consolidation of some key capital pools, such as defined benefit pension schemes. The US market, with its larger number of sophisticated and long-term-focused investors, is more favorable.

What are the key factors for a successful boutique investment firm in the early stages?

Key factors include clear planning, understanding the target market, having the right connections, and setting realistic client expectations. Boutiques also need to focus on getting the first 30 to 50 million in AUM to make the business viable and attract larger investors.

Why do Varus's founders believe in a long-only approach for emerging markets?

The founders believe that a long-only approach in emerging markets is more aligned with their investment philosophy and avoids the distractions and costs associated with hedging. They also see better opportunities in long-term, high-conviction investing.

How does Varus manage compliance and regulatory requirements in the UK?

Varus has a compliance officer who must prove relevant experience. The FCA authorization process is long and complex, requiring detailed paperwork and regular submissions, which adds to the operational costs. However, this ensures a higher level of oversight and control.

Why is succession planning a critical issue for mature boutiques?

Succession planning is critical because it can lead to overreaching and overstretching, which creates friction and resource issues. Unexpected succession, such as key person illness, and planned succession, like making the firm multi-generational, both require careful management to maintain alignment and client trust.

How does Varus ensure alignment with its investors?

Varus ensures alignment by focusing on a single strategy, setting clear performance expectations, and maintaining a small, co-invested team. They aim to build a long-term relationship with investors who understand and support their approach, even during tough periods.

Why are US investors more likely to allocate to emerging markets despite uncertainty?

US investors recognize the long-term growth potential in emerging markets, especially in new economy businesses. Despite the current political uncertainty, they are looking for contrarian opportunities and are more likely to allocate to EM if they see a strong, bottom-up investment thesis.

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Jamie Carter's career began at Mercury Asset Management before he joined Oldfield Partners, a boutique firm where he played a crucial role in its growth from a business plan to managing around \$6 billion in assets. His experience involved handling operations, finance, and business development, eventually leading him to become the chief executive officer. After 15 years, he decided to pursue new challenges.
  • Started at Mercury Asset Management
  • Joined Oldfield Partners in 2005
  • Became CEO in 2013
  • Firm grew to manage around $6 billion in assets
  • Left Oldfield Partners in 2020

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Jamie Carter, Partner and Managing Director at Variis Partners has spent much of his career focused on the world of long-only emerging-market investment boutiques. In this interview with Max Wiethe, Carter discusses the huge differences between building a long only business and a hedge fund business, why launching fund vehicles out of the UK has become more difficult, the differences in raising capital in the US, UK, and Europe, and why he thinks emerging markets are the last hold outs for fundamental active managers. He also explains why EM investors and allocators are holding their collective breath waiting to see how the Trump administration’s policies will impact global markets.

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