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Sam Altman, OpenAI and the Future of Artificial (General) Intelligence

2025/5/22
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Kara Swisher:作为一名科技记者,我见证了 ChatGPT 在 2022 年 11 月对科技界产生的巨大影响,它使 OpenAI 及其 CEO Sam Altman 广为人知。我认识 Sam Altman 很久了,并且见证了他的成长,包括他在 OpenAI 的工作,在那里他和 Elon 讨论了成立这样一个组织来保护我们免受科技巨头(如 Google)侵害的必要性。我认为 Sam Altman 是一个有趣的人,他很迷人,但有时也显得有些操纵性,他让我想起了史蒂夫·乔布斯。Karen 和 Keech 的书在某些方面有重叠,但总体来说互为补充,分别从不同角度探讨了 Sam Altman 和 OpenAI。

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Few technological advances have made the kind of splash –– and had the potential long-term impact –– that ChatGPT did in November 2022. It made a nonprofit called OpenAI and its CEO, Sam Altman, household names around the world. Today, ChatGPT is still the world’s most popular AI Chatbot; OpenAI recently closed a $40 billion funding deal, the largest private tech deal on record. But who is Sam Altman? And was it inevitable that OpenAI would become such a huge player in the AI space?

Kara speaks to two fellow tech reporters who have tackled these questions in their latest books: Keach Hagey is a reporter at The Wall Street Journal. Her book is called “The Optimist: Sam Altman, OpenAI and the Race to Reinvent the Future.”* Karen Hao writes for publications including The Atlantic and leads the Pulitzer Center’s AI Spotlight Series. Her book is called “Empire of AI: Dreams and Nightmares in Sam Altman’s OpenAI.” *They speak to Kara about Altman’s background, his short firing/rehiring in 2023 known as “The Blip”, how Altman used OpenAI’s nonprofit status to recruit AI researchers and get Elon Musk on board, and whether OpenAI’s mission is still to reach AGI, artificial general intelligence.

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