We're sunsetting PodQuest on 2025-07-28. Thank you for your support!
Export Podcast Subscriptions
cover of episode Trading the Markets: Ep. 4 | Kris Bullock and Bijan Maleki

Trading the Markets: Ep. 4 | Kris Bullock and Bijan Maleki

2025/4/11
logo of podcast Real Vision: Finance & Investing

Real Vision: Finance & Investing

AI Deep Dive AI Chapters Transcript
People
B
Bijan Maleky
C
Chris Bullock
R
Raoul Pal
Topics
Bijan Maleky: 我认为市场近期持续下跌,但最终会反转。 Chris Bullock: 我主要关注比特币的主导地位。由于缺乏零售和刺激资金,以及以太坊价格下跌,比特币的主导地位有所上升。然而,如果我们排除以太坊,其他山寨币开始反弹,这可能预示着市场转变。 就当前市场而言,由于市场的不确定性,特别是关税问题的不确定性,黄金仍然是不错的投资选择。虽然黄金看起来已经超买,但其价格波动相对较小,这使得它成为一个相对安全的避险资产。即使错过了最初的市场反转,黄金的价格波动也不会太大。 对于加密货币投资,我目前采用的对冲策略是投资黄金。黄金通常被视为避险资产,当加密货币市场下跌时,资金往往会流入黄金。 虽然技术指标显示比特币可能已经触底,但我认为地缘政治因素,特别是贸易局势,对市场的影响更大,因此需要谨慎看待技术指标。比特币的主导地位下降并不一定意味着比特币的价格也会下降,它只是上涨速度变慢了。 与其他主要加密货币相比,“SPX”和“Fartcoin”两种加密货币近期表现相对较好,并且都具有去中心化和有机增长的特点。 Raoul Pal: 我认为在2030年之前,经济奇点将会到来,我们需要在未来六年内做好准备。

Deep Dive

Shownotes Transcript

Translations:
中文

Hi, everyone. I'm Raoul Pal, the CEO and co-founder of Real Vision. Here at Real Vision, we're committed to give you the best knowledge, tools, and network to help you succeed in your financial future. If you're enjoying this podcast, please take a moment to give it a five-star rating. It truly helps us continue to bring top-tier content. Thank you so much.

Happy Wednesday, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of Trading the Markets. I'm Bijan Maleky, and I'm joined by RV Crypto contributor Chris Bullock. This is episode four, guys. And while the markets are in the red again, it seems like it is a common theme lately, but it's got to turn around eventually, right, Chris? Yeah.

Someday, someday, someday. So I know why we're all here. We're going to be talking some of our trade ideas or some trades where, you know, just very interested in taking. And a reminder to everyone, if you have any questions that you want to ask us, just throw it into the chat, whether that is on YouTube or Twitter or in our chat.

comment section on our platform. Just put in your question and we'll try and take it live on air and help you get some insights. So with that being said, obviously, there's tons of market volatility, tons of things going on in the news that is driving all of this volatility. So with that, why don't we, Chris, why don't we take a look and see...

how the benchmark, which is Bitcoin, how it's doing and what Bitcoin dominance is looking like today. Hi, Raoul here.

Listen, I think we've got until 2030 before the economic singularity arrives. Now, it might not be the exact date, but it's around then. So we have about six years to figure out how to unfuck our future. I've put together a report to help you called Prepare for 2030. It's going to help you take the first steps in that journey to make sure you're secure past 2030. So just click on the link below and start your journey now.

Yeah, so I did want to just kind of focus on Bitcoin dominance. I feel like since everything is...

either going down or just, you know, we're waiting for all of the tariff situation to resolve itself, which, you know, may or may not happen anytime soon. So I felt like it was more important to kind of dig into dominance right now, because I think a lot of us are wondering, what should we do with our money? Is it is a time to start allocating into alts? Is it time to, you know, what's Bitcoin dominance going to do and why? And so I've been staring at this Bitcoin dominance chart now for

the last hour plus and have dug into it and have made quite a few interesting observations that I wanted to share about what I think is going on right now, kind of versus what has happened in previous cycles. And so just, I'm going to do kind of a brief recap of what happened last cycle and

Now, we know Bitcoin pretty much when the cycle bottomed at the end of 2018, you know, Bitcoin really jumped hard out of the gate, like it rose up like a 5x, you know, in a very, very short span. And we can see that reflected here in dominance where it came into, you know, April, May, August, and then finally peaked out.

And as we kind of came into the COVID crash right in this area, it flattened a little bit and alts kind of took the lead. And then this bit here is basically DeFi summer. So this is when, you know, Uniswap came online and, you know, Aave and all of those early DeFi tokens. And that ran really hard and that impacted Bitcoin dominance for quite a while. We can see Bitcoin dominance basically steadily went down after peaking initially at the end of 2019. Yeah.

Bitcoin dominance, I'm sorry, rather DeFi summer peaked right around the end of September of 2020 that year. And I don't know if you were around back then, but if you were, you remember it kind of Bitcoin went on a really strong rally into the end of 2020 and just kind of melted everybody's face for a minute. And everybody thought that it was all over from there. And then right when it peaked is right when, you know, ETH took off.

And so what was going on here is we have to remember COVID happened back here. Suddenly we had all the stimulus money coming in. Everybody was getting their stimulus checks. That first went into Bitcoin, likely. All that money went into Bitcoin initially and then started going further out the risk curve, which is what we see, this sharp, drastic drop in Bitcoin dominance. And this is when NFTs came online. This is further advancement of DeFi. Summer, all of these new DeFi tokens were coming online. ETH was rising.

this is when ETH was basically just at peak. You know, ETH fees were as high as they could possibly be. ETH was maxed out because everybody was trading NFTs. There was like a hundred new NFT collections coming online every day all through this time right here. And lots of DeFi going on, all of which was occurring basically on ETH. Like Solana was barely anything at this time. So this is as much a reflection of ETH dominance as

as it is sort of a lack of Bitcoin dominance through this run right here. And then once the market peaked, um,

I'm sorry, Bitcoin dominance stayed relatively low because if we remember, you know, NFTs actually remained relevant, you know, well into 2022, even after the market had peaked. And so that sort of gave ETH some strength. But if we remember too, right around early this time, sort of late 2021, early 2022, this is when layer twos first started to come online. This is when, you know, optimism and arbitrum and things like that were first starting to

you know, come online. They weren't gaining any momentum necessarily yet, but through this time also, we're starting to see changes in the ETH growth plan, basically. And then that sort of culminated with ETH switching to proof of stake right around September of 2022. And that was kind of the final straw for ETH dominance. And so it was about this time that ETH peaked and, you

Bitcoin dominance pretty much has been up only since then. So this Bitcoin dominance that we're experiencing now, yes, it's Bitcoin being dominant because we know that there's no more retail at this point. There's no more stimulus money coming in. Liquidity has dropped all the way back down. ETFs have come online. And so we're starting to see a lot more sort of trad-fi money coming in, institutional money coming into Bitcoin, coupled with...

The complete sort of not death of ETH from a network standpoint, but certainly from a price standpoint, like briefly, if we kind of click over and look at ETH Bitcoin pair, we can see this is basically this is what ETH has done against Bitcoin.

So when you go back and look at this dominance chart, you're seeing essentially this because we have to remember Bitcoin dominance is largely reflected in what ETH is doing because ETH is the number two asset. So if ETH is going down, that's going to have an outsized impact on Bitcoin dominance going up. And so it's important to know that.

This doesn't necessarily reflect the broader altcoin market. You know, like we could have a lot of alts doing extremely well right now. Like Solana could go up 30%, but if ETH goes down 5% in that same standpoint or that same timeframe, Bitcoin dominance is going to keep going up because it's not going to, Solana is not big enough to reflect that change in dominance, you know, to out, to overcome the outsized influence that ETH has in this calculation right here.

So I think it's important to kind of look at, like we can see,

Real quick, kind of going back, in the last cycle, Bitcoin dominance peaked 107 days after, or 107 weeks rather, after the cycle low occurred. Now we're already 126 weeks past the cycle low and Bitcoin dominance is continuing to run up, but it's not at the highest level that it ever was. It peaked out a couple of times at around the 70% mark before finally reversing. So are we going to see it come up to 70%?

before finally reversing? Or is it going to be something like this? If we go back and if we look at total three instead of just straight Bitcoin dominance, total three actually takes Ethereum out of the equation because it's basically the total crypto market cap minus the top three. So if we look here, ETH is no longer in this equation. And we can see kind of for the first time in this four-year cycle, the...

the 20 week moving average has rolled over. It hasn't, you know, like going back and looking here, it's starting, it's continuing to set higher highs, basically ETH or I'm sorry, Bitcoin dominance. I keep saying ETH. Bitcoin dominance is setting higher highs. But if we look at total three, like Bitcoin divided by total three, we can see that the 20 week moving average is actually rolling over for the first time. And it's technically outside of this one wick here, it's setting a higher, a lower high. So,

Maybe we need to kind of remove Ethereum from this equation. And maybe this is a sign that outside of Ethereum, we are starting to see other alt

altcoins, you know, starting to take back over. And we are starting to see sort of this ETH dominance wane a little bit. So I'm going to be watching this closely to see if this continues this trend, this rollover trend, or if it does start setting higher highs again. And we still got to wait until Bitcoin dominance actually does come back up to around the 70% mark before some kind of sharp reversal like this. Maybe we get the sharp reversal if and when the Fed pivots and we start getting QE and, you know, liquidity injections and things like that.

Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. But I'm coming back and I think this is the more relevant thing to pay attention to in terms of the dominance right now is this BTC divided by total threes. So it'll be interesting to see how this plays out and to see if this continues to roll over. And this is what I'm going to be

watching in the coming days and weeks to see because we are starting to see some alts establishing bottoming patterns, which we'll get into here in a minute. And, you know, some alts certainly showing strength. So I'm curious to see if we remove ETH from this equation, what that ultimately is going to look like.

So back to you, Bijan. Awesome. Well, we got the there. There it is for Bitcoin dominance. We'll see how it how it ends up turning turning out. But with that being said, Chris, what what trades are we looking at? What are we taking? We need to know. What do you have on your radar this week?

So, yeah, in light of the market continuing to be, I don't want to say garbage. I mean, it's garbage, but it's wildly unpredictable is the larger issue. And so I touched on PAXG last week or the week before, maybe.

Have you ever wanted to trade Bitcoin but haven't dared try? With Plus 500 Futures, you can trade crypto without the hassle of opening a wallet. With just a few clicks, you can register and start practicing with their free and unlimited demo. See a trading opportunity? You'll be able to trade it in just two clicks. Feel ready?

You can move to real money with as little as $100 once your account is approved. And the great thing is that in addition to crypto, Plus 500 gives you access to a wide range of instruments, S&P 500, NASDAQ, gas, and much more. Explore equity indices, energy, metals, forex, and beyond. With a simple and intuitive platform, you could trade anytime, anywhere.

Plus 500. It's trading with a plus.

And I'm continuing to ride with that. And for a minute, I was a little wary because gold looked rather toppy. But the fact remains, the market is very uncertain still. And I think as long as that uncertainty remains, as long as we don't know what the ultimate endgame strategy is with these tariffs, whether it's

a negotiating tactic or whether it's actually a full-on paradigm shift in the global economy, which we still don't know. One day it's one, the next day it's the other. So until that is kind of, until there's clarity there, I think that all roads lead back to gold. No matter how overbought gold is, no matter how overextended gold may look, I think all roads lead back to gold until then. And we look, one of the things I wanted to look at was the RSI because

It was overextended. We did have RSIs, you know, in overbought territory. And we had a nice little flush out here, you know, where it basically went back down and mean reverted and then kind of came back all the way back down to the bottom of the Bollinger Bands and has since reversed. So that was a nice sort of reset on the RSI, which gives it time to run back up again. And I just, I think, again, the strength remains in gold. And the nice thing about it is even if,

Even if you're I'm wrong or rather, even if the pivot comes, like, say, tomorrow we get a tweet from Trump and, you know, tariffs are off. This is hypothetically tariffs are off and everything is back to what it was or whatever. Game on. In other words, gold isn't going to just like tank overnight. It's not going to drop 30 percent like like a stock or like Bitcoin or whatever. So even if we kind of miss the initial pivot, you know, gold only maybe is going to move 5 percent.

You know, at most on on any given day, really, and even five percent is a lot for gold. And so it kind of you get a little bit of a buffer there where you have a chance to to pivot out of packs and into whatever crypto holdings you were going to. And it's like maybe sure you'll miss a couple of percent, but it's a whole lot better missing just a couple of percent than potentially missing gold.

five or 10 or 20% by holding that in some other crypto asset or some other thing that you're wanting to pivot out of, you know, that's going to move a lot more drastically in a much shorter period of time. So I like the kind of cushion that this gives you and the room for error that this gives you in sort of sticking in gold until the last minute, basically until...

We know that the change is in and it's time to risk on again, basically. So I'm sticking with it. I think it's sort of the play right now in this moment overall. Very well said. One of our OG community members, DeFi Diffin, has been banging on his gold drum for over a month now. So I'm sure he loves what you just said about that trade. So I'm going to just...

quickly kind of talk about my two trade ideas for the week. It's kind of basically in the same vein. Last week, I was saying, you know, I think we had a good possibility of getting a dip. And if you had some dry powder, it's kind of like a gift and on sale prices to enter. And I think that's exactly what we have. So I'm sticking with the tried and true method of DCA-ing. So I

I am just adding to my levels of sweet and Solana. Those are kind of like my, my, my picks for this cycle. So I'm just adding to my bags. We always say, you know,

we don't in times when the market's pumping we always say i don't have enough soul don't have enough sweet i don't have enough this i don't have enough that well this is your chance to add more to that uh and not regret it later so that's that's what i'm going with i added sweet under uh a dollar 90 was uh on monday and i added solana under 100 on monday as well i got in that salon at 98 so i'm

Very happy with my entries there. And we're just going to continue riding. I think DCA for me, at least has been a very tried and true strategy. And every time I just continue with my DCA, I'm always up as opposed to when I like, I make these pivots and try to chase gain. So don't get caught with your shirt out or off or whatever it is. You know, just to stick to your plans guys. But with that, you know, we have another solid. Yeah. Yeah. Right. You know, it's yeah. Yeah.

If you can't watch the charts all the time, I think that's just the way to go, right? But with that, though, there is a chart that is just really just defying all logic, I guess, if you will, right now. And it has everyone on Twitter talking. We definitely charted this on Monday in our longer version TA show. But Chris, why don't you tell us about your next idea here?

Yeah. Like you said on the show, it's all about, it's all about fart coin. I mean, that's, that's where it's all going. It's funny, as funny as it is. This is, this has shown the strongest reversal pattern. If you go on coin market cap it's, you know, and sort everything by, you know, in the top 100 by, by daily and weekly, it, it's not always at the top, but it's, you know, number one, but it's always, it's been right there. I think and I,

right now I want to say it's up 20% on the day. It's leading my watch list. Nothing is even up above 10% otherwise in this list that I have here. So, and it's been doing this regularly. I mean, it's been put like another 20% day here, you know, all these, I mean, lots of 20% days it's, it's starting to push a higher, well, I mean, as long as this candle body holds, it'll be a higher high basically. And,

And it's in a strong uptrend on a weekly level, on a daily level. It's basically outpacing everything right now. It's kind of the asset. And I'm not saying it's just outpacing meme coins. I'm saying it's outpacing everything. It's leading the top 100 crypto assets. So it's not just like...

just some obscure, you know, way out the risk curve kind of thing. It's, you know, it's, it's well in the top 100 and market cap. It's well established. It's got a very diverse holder base. It's very organic. It's, it's far less manipulated than, you know, a lot of stuff out there. It's far less manipulated than a lot of more centralized tech alts that have teams behind them that are managing the tokens that have VC money and, and airdrops and, and, you know, all this other stuff. Like it's just,

It's just a straight decentralized fair launch meme coin. And so to see this type of organic price appreciation is very noteworthy to me. And so this is purely hype and this is what has people's attention right now. And so...

Now, let's say it's very interesting. Now, Chris, let's say I I'm looking at this chart right now, you know, and I'm seeing all the, you know, the narratives on crypto Twitter right now about Fartcoin in general. Like, let's say I want to cut loose some of my underperforming memes that I have. Would you say, Chris?

Would I be FOMOing essentially into this trade right now if we were to cut loose some of our other memes to enter into Fartcoin? What would you say to those people that may have missed the initial entry but are eyeing it for an entry right now? I would say you haven't missed the boat yet. You could kind of look at it a couple different ways. We're kind of right at a bit of a breakout level, if you will. Like if you look here, this is sort of the...

this sort of support resistance level that I had been eyeing. Like it came up here and it got rejected here. It did its final sort of capitulation. It reversed, ran up, got rejected here again. And then it's sort of doing a bit of a cup and handle kind of thing right here. And so it's, it's,

Basically, essentially just breaking out of this resistance level as we speak on the current daily candle. So this is sort of the breakout level that we're at. Now, sure, had you bought lower, of course, you would have been better off, gotten a better entry. Nothing wrong with that, but...

You definitely haven't missed the boat yet. Like a lot of people would be waiting for this sort of a trigger before buying in anyway. Like this is what you would call the more conservative, more responsible entry point. Whereas buying down here would be the more aggressive entry. And sure, it's, you know, you're, you're, you stand to make more here, but also it's a much riskier play buying down here. Whereas buying here on the breakout potentially, especially if it'll come back up and retest this as support and then bounce from here. That's like,

the ultimate conservative buy time. So-

We're kind of right there. So no, you haven't missed the boat. Obviously, a very short time ago, it was up above $250. And I think that it's well within the cards to get back there, if not even up to $5. I think that a 10x is plausible. Obviously, I'm not making a price prediction here. Nobody knows what's going to happen. But in terms of... You have to remember, its market cap is only around $500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

You know, as far as room to move, it's much, much lower than a lot of these other well-established higher market cap alts like your Solanas and your Suis and the stuff that are already well up into the billions or multi-billions. You know, their upside is a little bit more capped because of that, whereas this has lots of room to grow. And we've seen...

It's certainly not unprecedented at all to see meme coins well up into the multi-billion dollar valuations. That's happened already this cycle earlier on with Bonk and Whiff before they corrected. Certainly the likes of Doge and Sheeb have gotten up above $20 billion even in past cycles. So...

It's not, you know, again, not unprecedented whatsoever. And so I think if you pick the hot hand, which we know right now, Fart and also SPX are basically the top two. You know, again, they're right there. And so if the sort of space is going to coalesce around one or two meme coins, I'm going to say probably one of those two are the ones. And seeing a $5 billion valuation, if not even higher, is...

is within reason, I will say. So, yeah. Awesome. So I did want to get to the SPX chart, but we actually had quite a few questions come in. So I think let's maybe go to some of the live questions that we got. And then if we have time, we'll take a look at SPX versus Fartcoin later. But this question comes from JF. Chris, can you weigh in on better hedging practices and strategies when investing in crypto? Yeah.

Well, it's funny. Yes, but that starts to get really advanced really quickly in terms of how to go about it. I don't know. Like we could spend a whole show talking about that. But like just real quickly, I will say like what I'm doing for right now in this moment, my hedging strategy is going back to the PAX G. Like that's an easy thing to do just to, you know, have a portion of your portfolio ready.

you know, whatever percentage you're comfortable with, whether it's 25, 30, 50%, whatever, give or take, in something that is going to basically go opposite the crypto market. You know, we know like gold is basically a flight to safety for pretty much everything right now. And so when the crypto market's going down, likely a lot of that money is going into gold. Pretty much when anything is going down right now, a lot of that money is going into gold. And so that's, to me, the easy, easy hedge option

Um, but beyond that, you can get into Delta neutral strategies with futures and options and things like that. Um, again, the search to get very complicated very quickly and not everybody has access to those instruments. So I don't want to dig into that too much, but, um, yeah, I'm just going to leave it with that. To me, I think the easy peasy sort of no brainer entry-level hedging approach right now is to embrace gold at the moment. Um, so yeah. Yeah.

Well said. Thank you for the question, JF. Next question, get from Gabriel. Hey, Chris, I use the BTC VIX chart and I put a trend line from the 2015, 2020 and August 2024 and recent crash. BTC came and tested that level and based on the previous crashes, this suggests that the bottom is in. What is your view on that?

There's certainly merit to that from a technical standpoint. I don't disagree. And in addition to that, we're seeing a lot of indicators out there saying that the bottom is in. And, you know, also the liquidity chart that Raoul and Julian show a lot of the times indicating the bottom is in. So, yes, technically, I don't disagree. I think you're spot on there. I don't have a way to pull up that chart, unfortunately, so I can't like...

speak to it directly with specific points. But to me, I think right now the bigger concern is not technical, but is what's going on with the trade situation. I mean, really that's impacting everything beyond what the technicals are going to show. And I think until that gets resolved, we have to kind of defer everything

to that and not ignore the technicals, but just maybe give a little bit less weight to what the technicals are showing. Because certainly...

the trade situation can and has had an outsized impact on all global markets. Like none of us, like I knew that the markets were going to correct back in January, just like everybody was saying. I had no idea they were going to drop as much as they did and be, you know, as extended as it has been. So, and that's directly because of the trade situation, not because of the technicals. And so I think we have to, again, give more weight to the trade situation, less weight to technicals and just wait until,

this situation till there's clarity in the situation. I don't want to say till it's resolved, but until an end game is clear, I think that's really the outcome that we're looking for is and whatever that is. So, so yeah, but good question. Yeah, that's, that's,

Great question, Gabriel. Yeah, Raul always says crypto is macro, and we're seeing exactly that right now. Okay, next question comes from Stuart about Bitcoin dominance. So BTC dominance lowering does not mean that Bitcoin does not continue to rise. It is just at a slower rate. Is that correct? Yes, that is correct. Like, yeah, because if we go back to this chart, certainly Bitcoin,

um we know so bitcoin dominance bottomed um you know at the end of well in whatever august 2021 but we know bitcoin was actually hitting all-time highs roughly at the same time so um yes no bitcoin dominance does not correlate to bitcoin price at all uh in that in that sense um

It just meant in this case, it meant everything else, ETH and all the other stuff, all the money was going into that more so. So those prices were going up at a higher rate, but Bitcoin price was still going up. So Bitcoin price actually can be peaking at the same time that its dominance is bottoming, honestly.

Thank you for the question, Stuart. I think that is that's all the questions we have for today. Chris, any like any any thoughts or anything you you're thinking about maybe for the rest of the week?

Do we want to touch on SPX or? Yeah, we have a few minutes here. Why don't we why don't we see what SPX is doing? Because those are the two memes essentially that I'm just seeing everywhere on the timeline, right? SPX and fart coin. So I think this would be good for anyone who's maybe considering what to do between those two. Let's see what the charts are saying.

Well, and not just memes, but again, these two are outpacing most everything, not just memes. So what I have here, I think this is a really interesting chart that I've been following for a while now.

is i've got four four different panes here and these are all bitcoin pairs so basically this is the spx bitcoin pair we have the fart coin bitcoin pair uh sweet bitcoin and then solana bitcoin and so i think it's important to note you know to basically look at these compared to some of the other majors that are you know that are that everybody's holding that everyone's talking about um

And so we can see here that basically at their sort of main support resistance levels, SPX Bitcoin is holding up very well. It didn't break down as much as some of the other ones structurally. It sort of dipped down below its structure for a second, but it regained it and is back above it. Fartcoin lost it a little bit more, but has essentially recovered its major support against Bitcoin. SWE...

was very similar to SPX in that it lost it a little bit and is kind of holding right at it. Solana, on the other hand, isn't faring as well because it sort of had outsized losses due to everybody kind of exiting the meme coin sector and the AI sector kind of all at once. It sort of had a double whammy. And so it suffered a little bit more than most. But I think it's worth pointing out here that, you know, SPX is held up just as well as the likes of SWE, you know, so...

That's relevant to me. However, in the shorter term, Bartcoin has outpaced it. And so if we kind of go back to, I've got a chart here showing basically Bartcoin against SSL.

And, uh, well fart coin initially went down more than SPX in the initial sell-off. It rebounded quicker and has shown greater relative strength, uh, since the bottoming, since the reversal. And so actually just popped up right there, just even more. So, um, it's doing extremely well in this moment. Arguably it's even a bit, uh,

over exuberant, you could say, but it's, it's the better of the two in the moment. But regardless, I still think both of these very much fit into the same category in terms of,

of highly decentralized organic meme coins that are, you know, have been around a long time, more so with SPX has been around a long time, have really, really solid holder bases and are showing tremendous sort of organic growth and stability over a long period of time. And so, yeah, I think both of these are really solid right now. So, yeah. Yeah.

Awesome. Guys, that does it for this week. Thank you, everyone, for joining us, whether you are on Twitter, YouTube, or on platform. We appreciate all of you and appreciate your questions. We'll be back next week, same time, same place, and we'll have some new trades for you and hopefully green candles to celebrate as well. But we'll see. Until then, guys, don't fuck this up and stay the course. See you next week.

See you, everybody.

Thank you.

Experience the fast, accessible futures trading you've been waiting for with Plus 500. With over 20 years of experience, Plus 500 is your gateway to the markets. Visit us.plus500.com to learn more. Trading in futures involves the risk of loss and is not suitable for everyone. Not all applicants will qualify. Plus 500. It's trading with a plus.