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cover of episode What Could Reverse This Market Meltdown? Tariffs Madness & Recession Panic! | Macro Monday ft. Mikkel Rosenvold and Andreas Steno Larsen

What Could Reverse This Market Meltdown? Tariffs Madness & Recession Panic! | Macro Monday ft. Mikkel Rosenvold and Andreas Steno Larsen

2025/4/7
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Andreas Steno Larsen: 全球股市经历了历史上最糟糕的三天,市场状况非常奇怪。我对关税谈判能否带来缓和的消息感到担忧,因为美国贸易顾问彼得·纳瓦罗坚持认为,关税谈判取决于贸易逆差的解决,这需要很长时间。 中国在市场恐慌期间购买了大量商品,这是利用低价的典型行为。当前市场恐慌导致各种资产价格大幅下跌,这可能是一个长期投资的机会。当前市场状况是流动性紧缩而非结构性恐慌,美联储可能很快会介入。新的关税计算公式简单明了,但问题在于一些国家难以迅速调整其制造业以应对新的关税。 当前的通货膨胀正在下降,这与市场预期相反。三月通胀报告可能会非常温和,这可能会缓解美联储对通胀飙升的担忧。美联储只有在金融稳定受到威胁时才会采取行动,目前仍在观望。美联储介入的信号包括黄金抛售、美元走强以及通胀预期下降。目前市场表现出流动性紧缩的迹象,美联储可能很快会采取行动。应该关注5年期通胀掉期或Truflation等实时数据来评估通胀情况,而不是依赖于可能存在偏差的调查数据。如果收益率曲线开始预估5月份的降息,美联储将很难保持不作为。 中国不太可能抛售美国国债,因为这会增强美元,而这并非他们所希望的。美国政府的目标可能是通过降低能源价格和债券收益率来缓解金融状况。从风险回报的角度来看,做多非美国固定收益资产是一个不错的选择。美国经济对贸易的依赖程度并不高,因此即使没有大量进口,也能在一段时间内维持运转。外国游客减少对美国服务业数据造成了负面影响。市场触底的条件是美联储介入或关税政策发生重大转变。目前最佳的风险回报策略是押注商品价格下跌以及固定收益资产上涨。 Mikkel Rosenvold: 市场恐慌时,通常是积累资产的好时机。对某些商品征收高额关税不会直接导致消费者价格大幅上涨,部分成本会被生产商吸收。许多人预计关税会引发通货膨胀飙升,但这并非事实,因为价格正在下跌。美联储面临着经济增长放缓、通胀温和以及关税影响等多重压力,需要权衡利弊。为了了解金融状况是否极端,需要关注5年期5年期通胀掉期或收益率曲线。特朗普政府实施关税的目标可能是为了增加政府收入,而不是为了降低关税或实现贸易互惠。没有人真正了解特朗普政府内部的运作以及特朗普本人的想法。美国国内经济数据显示,国内经济活动依然强劲,这与市场普遍预期的经济衰退相矛盾。

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The episode starts with a description of a dramatic market downturn, impacting various global markets. The hosts discuss the role of tariffs in the situation and express uncertainty about conciliatory news.
  • Global markets experienced a significant crash, with steep declines in various indices.
  • Uncertainty surrounds trade negotiations and the potential for conciliatory news.
  • Concerns about tariffs and their impact on markets are discussed.

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Andreas Steno Larsen, founder and CEO of Steno Research, is back with his co-host Mikkel Rosenvold, the firm's partner and head of geopolitics, to make some sense of the latest news and trends moving driving global markets on this live edition of Macro Mondays.

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