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AI Jobs, $100m Offers, & Two Plans for Iran 6/18/25

2025/6/18
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Wesley Clark: 我认为现在不是解读表面现象的时候，而是应该认真思考解决伊朗问题的正确方法。过去的失败教训告诉我们，不能只关注军事细节，而要着眼于最终目标以及如何实现它。目前，我们正处于外交杠杆作用最大的时期，希望幕后有人在直接与伊朗对话，施加压力。以色列现在占据优势，应该继续保持这种势头。美国需要保持军事打击的选择，但同时也要明确目标，即伊朗放弃发展核武器，停止对以色列和美国的敌对行为。如果伊朗愿意开放所有核设施，我们可以考虑向其提供核能，换取其石油和天然气资源。重要的是，我们要采取军事和外交双轨策略，既要消除伊朗的报复能力，又要通过外交途径促成某种程度的共存共荣。虽然政权更迭可能是一个理想的结果，但更现实的目标是确保伊朗不再对地区和世界构成威胁。如果伊朗不放弃其侵略政策和核野心，那么军事打击仍然是必要的选择。我们必须做好充分的准备，但也要尽一切努力通过外交手段解决问题，避免战争带来的灾难性后果。在处理伊朗问题上，美国需要展现出多维度的思考能力，而不是简单地采取非黑即白的立场。只有这样，我们才能找到一条既能维护国家安全，又能避免地区冲突的道路。

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Retired four-star General Wesley Clark advises against a unilateral US military strike on Iran's Fordow nuclear facility, suggesting a two-track approach involving both military and diplomatic strategies. The discussion analyzes the geopolitical complexities, potential responses from Iran, and the need for a clear end-state objective.
  • General Wesley Clark advises against bombing Iran's Fordow plant.
  • He suggests a two-track approach: military and diplomatic.
  • Israel's actions and potential US involvement are discussed.
  • Concerns about Iran's nuclear capabilities and potential retaliation are raised.

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Retired 4-star General Wesley Clark, once NATO Supreme Allied Commander, offers his advice to the Trump administration: don’t bomb Iran’s nuclear plant Fordow). In a lively discussion about geopolitics, General Clark suggests having both a military and a diplomatic plan for the conflict. Former Democratic Presidential candidate Andrew Yang is raising the alarm on AI’s impact on the workforce). Yang discusses the future of labor and technology. Plus, General Mills has joined Kraft Heinz in eliminating artificial food dyes in U.S. products), and OpenAI CEO Sam Altman has accused Mark Zuckerberg of attempting to poach OpenAI talent with $100m paychecks).  

 

Wesley Clark - 15:53

Andrew Yang - 29:51

 

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Andrew Yang, @AndrewYang)

Becky Quick, @BeckyQuick)

Joe Kernen, @JoeSquawk)

Katie Kramer, @Kramer_Katie)