Jon on Trump’s Trade War, Attacks on DEI & Myth of “Meritocracy” | Mo Amer
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Everybody, welcome! My name is John Stewart. Let me tell you, we got a fantastic show for you tonight. We're going to do our program. Later on in the program, we're going to be talking to comedian, writer, director, auteur, Mo Ammer. That's coming up in a bit. Very excited about it. But first, if I could have just a moment of your time. Let's talk about America's Lord and Savior, Donald Jehoshaphat Trump.

They're not booing, they're saying Bruce for no apparent reason. When Trump ran for president, he had an urgent message about the state of our country. Our country is being lost. We're a failing nation. We are a nation in decline. We have to fight for our country and we have to fight like we've never fought before. It's like we're a giant garbage can. How dare you? If anything, America is a recycling bin.

Useless and made almost entirely of plastic. But that's it. We have to fight to save our country. And now daddy's home. And he's about to take out the trash. And two weeks into the Trump presidency, we have a better sense of the evil and powerful forces that have been dragging our once great nation into decline.

The Trump administration removed transgender references from federal government websites. It now reads "LGB" instead of "LGBT". They have no idea the damage tea was doing to our nation. Consonants! Because I think you'll agree with me, there is no tea in USA. If you spell it out, obviously that becomes an issue. And if you want a BLT for lunch, things can get ugly.

Nothing will stop America's low T, like no T. What other changes are making us great again? The Trump administration ordering all gender ideology references be removed, including pronouns and email signatures. Oh, yeah. Consonants and pronouns! Your next prepositions. Pronouns and email signatures. Good luck signing your emails now, President She. Or should I say President Him?

Those are just the actions that this president has taken to prove that he's still kind of a dick. But believe me, he hasn't taken his eye off of America's true nation-state enemy. President Trump is reiterating his threat to, quote, take back the Panama Canal. Trump suggesting he could use military force to take Greenland. President Trump had a fiery phone call with Denmark's prime minister, putting the NATO ally in crisis mode.

Denmark, Panama, Greenland, the axis of "Where are those?" Now, lest you think that pronouns and Panama were the twin forces shackling America to a prison of national decay, there are also more powerful forces at play in this dangerous world, some of them closer than what you might have ever imagined. -A new era of trade wars. Trump says tariffs are coming on Canada and Mexico and even the European Union.

The EU? Canada? Do we have any friends? I mean, Mexico, I get. Trump's been hate-f***ing Mexico pretty much since the escalator. That's the truth. But Canada? Canada? We're picking a fight with our most reliable and pleasant friend, the labradoodle of allies? But I guess that's Trump tough. You know what I mean? You gotta walk into the prison yard.

Walk right up to the one guy who really doesn't seem to be a problem at all and just, yeah! Take that, best friend! Who has willingly signed up to fight in every ridiculous war we've ever gotten into. Let that be a lesson to the rest of the world. We are a terrible friend. Denmark, Panama, and Canada. We used to fight the Nazis.

Now we're scouring the globe for easy marks? What are we, the Jake Paul of nations? Is that what? No offense. I know China's out there, but Panama's a legitimate fight. In fact, I'm going to call everyone out in FIFA's CONCACAF division. Yeah! Oh, Trinidad and Tobago, you got to gang up, huh? That honestly, like, I can't believe you laughed at a CONCACAF joke.

Soccer is back, baby. Look at me getting all skewed in the tie. Now, in Trump's defense, he did explain today why we're going after Canada. I mean, I look at some of the deals made. I say, who the hell made these deals? They're so bad. So bad. The trade deals with Canada, they're so bad. He's just looking and saying, who made these? Ladies and gentlemen, don't get

Ladies and gentlemen, for your dining and dancing pleasure, come with me into the Wayback Machine to 2018. I give you the culprit of the terrible deal with Canada. This morning, President Trump signed a new trade deal to replace NAFTA with the leaders of Mexico and Canada. The best trade deal they say ever made. A deal done by Trump's greatest nemesis. Now, hold on. Deal. Deal.

But President Trump, this trade war has awoken a sleeping giant. Not Canada, not Mexico, but the Democratic minority Senate leader. Release the Schumer! It's going to affect beer, okay? Most of it, Corona here, comes from Mexico. It's going to affect your guac, because what is guacamole made of? Avocados. Your response to the trade war is to f***ing tell us guacamole is made of avocados? Is that what...

And the people found out, when the people find out that Precious' Super Bowl dip is comprised of mainly avocado, also tomato, sometimes onion. It's a bit much for me, obviously, with the spilkus and... Excuse me one second. Democrats, can you please stop f***ing trotting Schumer out there every time...

Trump traverses into the unreal. He's not good at this. What is the decision-making process here? Hey, who should we get out there to effectively battle one of the most savvy presidential media manipulators in history? I don't know. How about Schumer? He's uninteresting, but at least he's monotone. Oh, wait. And Chuck, before you go out there, you look too young. Put on these readers and lower them on your nose. Perfect.

Honestly, listening to Chuck Schumer speak on almost any topic makes me want to bomb Canada. Kidding, of course, by the way. We have a couple of Canadians here from Montreal and I don't want to upset them because I'm going to need an apartment soon. Now, before we... Now...

Before we get rattled by Trump's two to two and a half front trade war, please understand Mexico has already today received a 30 day stay on tariffs by promising 10,000 troops to the border. And we've promised to stop the inflow of guns. So self-invented crisis averted. But what can Canada do? I'm sure there's an equally performative gesture Canada could make. What I'd like to see Canada become our 51st state.

Mexico, you just sent a few troops to the border. But Canada, if you could, I don't know, cease to exist as an independent entity. Fair? What's that, Mexico? No, no, there's only 51 states. There's no 52nd. I'm sorry. Hold on one second. Washington, D.C.? Yeah, go f*** yourself. All right. What's that, Puerto Rico? No, it's Canada. I think you know why. I think you know why. Canada. Of course, by the way, since we even...

We're writing this show at like 4 p.m. Trump has already said now he's going to pause the tariff war with Canada as well because... Of course it makes sense to wrap up the trade war right now so that we as a country can focus on the biggest thing that's weakening our great nation. Diversity, equity, and inclusion...

Yes. DEI, diversity, equity and inclusion. MAGA World's blamed this scourge for everything from the fires in California to the attack on Bourbon Street to inflation to the Baltimore Bridge collapse to why your children are confused about the race of mermaids. Because mermaids, boys and girls, are gingers. They've always been that.

The latest example being the plane crash in Washington. It was the DEI-ist. But don't take my word for it. Let's let MTV's Road Rules star and Fox & Friends B-teamer explain DEI. You can't focus on diversity, equity, and inclusion when you try to hire air traffic controllers. You want the best. You want the brightest protecting yourself and your family. We will have the best and brightest in every position possible. It is colorblind and merit-based.

Look, there's a lot of reasons why the FAA is in a bad place. But these guys would have you believe that the main problem is that standards were somehow lowered to make sure that a black person or a gay person gets a chance to land your plane, even though the requirements to become an air traffic controller are the same. But by culture warring this tragedy, Americans spent that terrible night holding their breath that the pilot or the air traffic controller wouldn't be a woman or a black person or in a wheelchair.

Because what they're trying to do is make the default setting on competence in America a white guy. That's what this is, a reset to the factory default. Because, of course, these two are there purely based on merit and smarts. And it's just taken for granted.

It undercuts every black person, person of color, woman in this country that the job that they have, they don't deserve. It's f***ed.

It's the mantra in the Republican Party that gives you brain-turning moments like this. In the United States of America, we get ahead and succeed by merit and merit alone. Yes, merit and merit alone, says RNC Chairwoman Lara, hold on, let me get my glasses. Trump. It was a blind submission, never saw a name on the application.

That's the irony of this whole thing. The people standing next to Trump on that terrible night, blaming DEI and trying to reinstall white guys as the only non-suspect pool of hires are themselves DEI hires for one particular identity that they possess, the ass kisser.

The president's leadership has been remarkable during this crisis. Mr. President, you make our jobs a lot easier. I want to echo what the transportation secretary said about your leadership. Thank you for your leadership and courage on that, sir. I think you make a really important point on that, Mr. President. The president is right. And again, I want to thank you for your leadership, Mr. President. De-sucking ego inflation. Obviously, if you think of sucking as a compound. But you can gaslight us all you want.

Because the one thing you didn't count on is our secret weapon. The roots of democracy are deep. People are aroused. I haven't seen people so aroused in a very, very long time in terms of going, trying to get this done. Aroused. For more on DEI and what it's going to do to our country, let's go live to the White House correspondent Josh Johnson. Josh! Nice to see you, sir.

Let me ask you, I know this is an important subject to you. Josh, what are you hearing about the DEI initiatives? John, what this administration is doing is dangerous. It is the perversion of the dream of Martin Luther King Jr. They've turned it into a nightmare where the content of a person's character is judged by the color of their skin. From the White House, I'm Desi Lai.

Wait, what's going on? I'm sorry, Desi, this is Josh's report. Hmm? Oh, you guys didn't get the executive order? We can't do DEI anymore. You're replacing me, but you're a woman. Yeah, a white woman. White woman beats black guy? Look, white women don't make the rules. We just tacitly embrace them through our overwhelming support of Donald Trump as a voting bloc. We should be on the same side, okay?

White women, black men, both held down by the white man. Yes, but the white man is my husband, and sometimes he lets me have rights as a treat, and I love my little treats. I...

I'm sorry, Desi, but what about the executive orders changes our current situation? Well, the fact is that DEI is over, John, which means only the most competent people will... Oh, shit.

Hoisted with my own petard. That's right. It's totally petarded, which is something we can say now thanks to Trump. And thank you, Desi, but I'll take it from here. You can go back to the milking room or wherever women lay eggs. Oh, come on. No, no, no. No, this is bullshit. I stole this job from Josh on marriage. Isn't this the problem, guys? Trump's reducing us to rungs on a racial and gender hierarchy.

We shouldn't be ranking our identities. Exactly.

But if we did, I should outrank Desi. I mean, back me up here, Costa. At the end of the day, we've both got hogs. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It goes race, then gender, then height, and then the tiebreaker is a list of establishments your father owns. Listen up, petards. All right, I don't see sex or color, okay? I just see SAT scores. And I don't mean to brag, but the kid my parents paid to take the SATs for me...

knocked it out of the park. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Are we talking SAT scores? No, no, no, no, no, no. Really? No, no. We're not talking your SAT scores. Oh, yeah, that's right. Because it's all about merit and high test scores until it looks like this.

And then suddenly we got to defend the white boys like it's a rape case at Kappa Sigma Phi. That was settled out of court. Yeah, yeah. It's all meritocracy until we get those H-1Bs and take your coding jobs. And, oh, it's not fair. Does black beat Asian? No. Your days are numbered, Costa. Chang out. Back to you, John. Thank you very much, Michael. You know, I guess if there's one thing that we've learned here today...

Is it because of the Jewish thing or the age thing? Doesn't matter. I guess not. When we come back, my guest will be Mo Ammer. Stick around. I'm Gentile Stewards.

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Get started risk-free at greenlight.com slash iHeart. Welcome back to The Daily Show. My guest tonight, oh, he's lovely. My guest tonight, a writer and stand-up comedian. He stars in the Peabody Award-winning Netflix series, Mo. Please welcome Mo on. I received my baby. No, you. No, you sit. I can't sit before you sit. You sit. No, you sit. Hospitality. Hospitality. My man. How's it going? The show's so good.

Thank you. Season two is just is out on Netflix right now. Right now. And people should watch. I binged it. And it's just let me tell you something that bothers me. And this is not I'm not trying to obviously, you know, get off on the wrong foot. And obviously there's a lot to talk about. Is it what bothers you? I want to know. So friends of mine leaving their windows open on aircrafts because. Oh, my God. Yeah. So for us, what do you do? What are you looking at at 7 a.m. out there? Try to keep things quiet. Yeah.

When you're so funny and your comedy is so good, and then I find out watching this show that you're also a great actor, and that bothers me. You're so good. I've seen Big Daddy. I've seen Big Daddy.

Tremendous. Tremendous. You know, my kids don't even believe that that was me. That's how bad erosion has taken its course. No, thank you so much. You can get to like a very emotional place in this thing in a way. And I've known you for a very long time. And I know that you cry all the time just generally. Why are you doing this? How is that like to even get to that?

The crying? Yeah! I mean, I mean, you know, it was my first experience of that in the first season in the confessional. But really, it's just...

You know, it's such a personal story. Right. And, I mean, some of the things that we're doing in the show was, like, recreating actual memories. Of yours. Yeah, of mine with my grandmother. I mean, that's, I'm like, Grammy? You know what I mean? Like, it's a very painful thing to go through, but I also knew that it was the realest way to tell the story. Right. It's the most grounded way to tell the story. And it's very hard, and you have to be as controlled and composed as possible, and sometimes you lose it, and that's okay. Right, right.

And it's also, you know, for those who don't know, so it's the story. Your story is complex. And it's, you're born in Kuwait, right? Yep. Then you have to flee. Correct. And you end in Houston. Yes. Which is the natural place you land. Most people go from Kuwait generally to Fort Worth. But Houston is also. And so what's so interesting about your story is what's great about the show is

You don't sugarcoat the absurd measures that we in this country have around our immigration system and the various questions and steps. There's one of my favorite scenes in the show in the second season. I love the first one, too. But you're trying to get he gets kidnapped and taken to Mexico. Yeah. And now he's got to get back as a stateless person. Right.

You're there. You need this, what's called a laissez-passer? Correct. What is that? I don't know. I don't know. It's basically like a pass, a day pass to reenter the country legally. Since I exited illegally. Right. But there's like this, you know, blurred line and my character obviously runs with it. I was kidnapped, you know, the whole thing would play up in the show. But it's about reentering back. And I want to, you know...

speak about this. Like, you know, I deliberately wanted him to be stuck in Mexico and I wanted to show the journey of a refugee, right? Because the first season is he's already there, right? Right. You're in Houston. You're in Houston. The show takes place in Houston with some minor flashbacks here and there to show, like, the beginning of their story. But, you know, I wanted people to see what it takes to actually get to America because most people see, oh, immigrants are coming, asylees are coming, and

They immediately think they're going to become American citizens like overnight. It's a long process. And I also wanted to show how absurd the system is. And I wanted to see for people to see like also my character is also very privileged in this scenario. You know, he's crossing the border. He ends up in some spoilers here. Speaks English perfectly. Speaks English perfectly. Right.

-Quotes Hank Williams. -All the time. And that happened to me, actually, when I would travel overseas to do stand-up, and I would come back in the States, and I would be in the immigration -- 'cause I didn't have a passport. I had a refugee travel document, and I'd be on the side. And they would look at me like, "Do you speak English?" I'm like, "Yelling and speaking slowly doesn't fix it. If I don't speak English, I don't speak English."

And I would reply, and it would be like, whoa, oh, yeah, oh, this is nice. Right. Yeah, well, you're nice. And you'd start quoting Hank Williams songs. I'd start quoting Hank Williams songs. No, but that was the idea, was to show the absurdity of the system itself, to show how privileged the character is as well.

Even though he's an asylee and a refugee, I mean, there's a scene in the detention center where there's a detainee there talking about how he has to, you know, had to go through mudslides and jungles and snakes and then the cartel and drank the juice of a Vienna sausage can. And he looks at me. He's like, how'd you get here? I'm like, I took a bus. Mexico. It's but it talks.

what it really demonstrates is the tenuousness that somebody who is stateless or on these asylum papers or in this process, like, you can't f*** at all. Like, you can't make one mistake. At one point, they put the, uh, you get deported. Yes. Because, as an... It's a great scene, and he...

meets the ambassador of Mexico because he needs the laissez-passer. Yeah, that's the only way. So I'm stuck in Mexico. I have to get to the ambassador. It's really the only way I can reenter legally is for him to sign off on a laissez-passer, which is extremely hard to get. He finally gets in to see the ambassador to Mexico, and it's there. It's right there in front of him. And they happen to get on a conversation about Israel-Palestine. And the ambassador doesn't use the word... Yeah. Occupation. Occupation, that's right.

And Moe, and this is so great in the scene because he's right there, just blows up the whole process and goes, that's it, I'm out.

Well, yeah, it's like something you just can't let go of. I mean, he says a peaceful end to the conflict. And, you know, there's so much complexity to it. I mean, so many layers, nuance to it and history to it. And it's just frustrating. I couldn't let it go. I mean, it's really from my own life, really. If I'm sitting there, I will not be able to let it go. And he could have solved everything. I could have said it, but I will never be able to figure it out myself. Right. And I thought, how funny would that be?

if he's just a massive in the show. But he's like, has his morals intact and his ethics intact. But even bringing that complexity, you know, you have this whole complexity of statelessness and asylum and all the process they have to go through through the first season. And a special needs brother who is fashioned out of your actual brother. Yes. Who's got on the spectrum but doesn't know it. Yes. And is almost 40? Yes. Oh, my brother's older than that now. But yes, in the show, yes. Yes, in the show.

And in this season, you couldn't also escape the Israel-Palestine of it all. Correct. And the complexity of that must have brought to the writers' room, to your heart. And you and I have talked about this a lot. Oh, so easy. I mean, like... No, no, I'm sorry to cut you off, but it's, like, the way to just ease the tension because it was excruciating making the show. Right. It was absolutely one of the... And I feel shameful even saying it was excruciating or painful to know what they were going through in Gaza. Like, I really...

Oof, you know, it's a hard one to swallow. But, you know, there were so many voices like, are you going to talk about October 7th? Do you have to talk about it? You can't not talk about it. And everyone has their own opinions. And I discussed it with you thoroughly. And you were just like...

the best human on Earth. Like, thank you so... No, really, because in a moment where I felt so lonely, you were one of the people that I could call and really talk to about this. And it was very difficult. And it was very easy once, you know, I spoke to you and I, you know, obviously the writing room was integral to this process and I love them so much for...

for having such difficult conversations, 'cause we started on April 1st, we went on strike May 1st, we came back October 1st of '23, six days later, the only Palestinian show on television. You can imagine the conversations that were had. And so I decided like, absolutely not, we're not gonna talk about October 7th. There's several problems with it. Number one is that, you know, it's been a year, you know, since we started production. So you have a whole year that lapsed that, you know,

So many things could change and you could write something that wouldn't be correct. Second of all is that now, you know, it needs a lot of context. Everything that you write about October 7th makes it sound like everything started on October 7th. And I felt like it was a trap. It really felt like every time we went down that rabbit hole, the show just became didactic and we lost everything. It became like a full-blown drama and this is a comedy show.

And it's a massive disservice to the characters. Let the characters tell the story. Let's build off of that. And it'll take us exactly where we need to go. And that's what happened. I think what you did so well that I was so impressed with was...

navigating all those artistic difficulties, what you seem to settle on was, and it's a show about statelessness and not belonging, and in that final episode, you show that connection to the land, that your family has to the land, that your father...

in that, you know, he has a videotape of his father, an actual real videotape of your actual father. -Yes, that's correct. -Unfortunately, you lost... -He passed away in '95, correct. -And to see that, it made it all... I thought it was such a beautiful moment that contextualized

this in such a way of humanity of like, oh, right, it's just people who live on a plot of land with some olive trees who've been there since their grandparents and their great-grandparents. And boy, you did it just so beautifully, Mo. I can't give you enough flowers for... And I know there's always that, you just said, like, the pressure on, you're the only Palestinian chosen, you have to do it right this way, or you've got to tell the Israeli story. The thing about art

that you did so well was you told your story. Yeah. It's just one story, but boy, is it resonant. And boy, is it funny and complex and beautiful like you. And I just so appreciate you. Thank you. I appreciate you. Thank you very much. Really special. Thank you. Now, I'll also say this. I've also seen you riding a moped, and that's very funny. LAUGHTER

Why you gotta do this to me? I ride motorcycles, okay? That's right. Except when you're in Ohio. Okay, maybe in Ohio during the pandemic, I was riding mopeds. But other than that... And then people were making fun of me because I was bigger than the moped. Everyone was like, maybe you should get a motorcycle. I was like, fine.

And I was divorced right then and there at that time. So I was like, maybe eight motorcycles. You know what I mean? It just kept buying more motorcycles. It was like so absurd. That's what divorce guys do. But now... That's it. That's it. Now you got a kid. Married and have a kid. He's backstage. He's backstage right now. He's backstage. Yeah. Uh...

Now, do you feel like this is completed and now it's off to the races for stand-up and all the other things that you do? Yeah, I'm touring. I'm doing the El Oso Palastino tour, which is based off of a character in the show, which translates to the Palestinian Bear Comedy Tour. Uh...

But, yeah, no, I'm doing that. I'm going into the next special. But there's so much more story to tell. I mean, there's so much more to do. But, yeah. And you mentioned, like, the ankle monitor. I do get deported in the... But it also is going to confuse people because how'd you get deported? But there's a thing. It's actually very, very common. This is fine in the show, actually. It's crazy. It's very, very common. You can get deported and released on your own recognizance, which means you're deported, but you can stay. Right. But you're deported. Yeah.

You played it like an Abbott and Castello routine on the show. He's like, so I'm deported. Yes. But I can't leave. Correct. Yes. Were the reasons that you were giving in the show for that, are those real? Could you not be deported because they wouldn't send you to, because you're stateless? Yeah, because you're stateless. No, but this is apparently a really common thing, whether you're stateless or not. I thought, you know,

"You don't want Palestinians returning anyway, so stop. You're not gonna deport them. We're gonna deport you back to where? Oh, you're Palestinian? Stay in Houston. Relax a little bit. We'll give you a work permit. Do your thing." But, no, it's apparently, like, really, really common. I forgot what the percentage is, but it's in, like, the 30-plus percentile... -Oh, wow. -...where people get deported regularly, but they can stay.

Can I ask this? Was the ankle monitor thing... I know. Look at this guy. He's so confused. Oh, yeah. Jaw drop. His brain almost short-circuited. The ankle bracelet, does it have a communication device? Is that a real thing? It is. It is a real thing. We had someone consult on the show who actually was in a detention center and was random. It's all at random. You get an ankle device...

Just like, hey, you know, you're number seven. Sorry. The first six didn't get it, but... But you got it. And then... Yeah, that's not real to my life, but when I heard about it, I'm like, we gotta put that in the show. It's gonna be hilarious because the guy could chime in at any moment in time and be like, please tell me your location. Like, that could really...

I mean, how embarrassing and horrible is that? -It was one of my favorite moments of the show. You're having -- You have very painful discussions with your old girlfriend and you guys, and they have a really painful discussion. They break up, and you just hear from the ankle monitor, "Brutal." -Brutal.

You saw it. Such a great moment. My brother. My brother. I love you so much. I'm so just delighted for you in your life and in your art and all those different things. And I can't wait to see what the next thing is. Thank you so much, man. I love you so much, John. Thank you so much. Moe season two is available on Netflix. Moe Albert. Take it a quick look. We'll be right back after this. Thank you.

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