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Ronny Chieng: 今晚我们有很多话题要讨论,包括Kristi Noem的测验失败、FBI希望人们停止谈论Jeffrey Epstein,以及Sean Duffy在机场的重新装修。Kristi Noem负责国家的公民身份途径,但她可能会将其变成一个庸俗的真人秀。将公民身份变成真人秀既不美国,又非常美国。我讨厌这个公民身份真人秀的想法,除非他们需要主持人,那样我就喜欢这个想法了。通过真人秀被驱逐可能是一种更友善的方式。Kristi Noem在国会作证时,未能正确解释人身保护令的含义。国土安全部部长应该知道人身保护令的真正含义。Kash Patel和Dan Bongino也在负责国家安全。Dan Bongino过去曾揭露FBI掩盖的真相,特别是关于Jeffrey Epstein的材料。Bongino过去认为Epstein不是自杀,但现在他有机会看到所有文件了。Bongino转变了关于Epstein自杀的立场,这很讽刺,如果他失败了,就应该让希拉里·克林顿杀死他。Sean Duffy正在努力解决美国航空旅行的问题,他把耶稣的画像从地下室移了出来。当我的飞机要坠毁时,我可以告诉旁边的人,别担心,那只是一幅糟糕的耶稣画像。 Dan Bongino: 我看过整个文件,Epstein是自杀的。 Jesus Christ: 我可以采取任何我想要的形式,这种形式能让我更快地通过机场安检。我对这幅糟糕的画像不满意,它看起来像是在单身派对上画的。我在地下室待得很好。我的照片出现在更糟糕的地方。担心真正发生的事情,比如战争、饥荒和尼克斯队。尼克斯队能走到这一步是靠他们自己的努力。 Michael Kosta: 贝利奇克应该在养老院寻找对象。我不需要日式马桶来冲洗我的屁股。

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Ronny Chieng discusses Kristi Noem's lack of knowledge of habeas corpus and her proposal for a reality TV show to determine citizenship. He satirically comments on the absurdity of the idea and Noem's lack of understanding of basic American law.
  • Kristi Noem's misunderstanding of habeas corpus
  • Proposal for a reality TV show for citizenship
  • Noem's performance in Congress

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Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Roddy Shank. We got so much to talk about tonight. Kristi Noem fails a pop quiz. The FBI wants you to shut up about Jeffrey Epstein already. And while you were stuck at the airport, Sean Duffy did some redecorating. So let's check in with the best cabinet ever in another installment of The Worst Wing. What a bunch of losers.

Let's start with Kristi Noem, Secretary of Homeland Security and one woman kill shelter. She's in charge of the country's pathway to citizenship, which for hundreds of years has been a solemn, dignified process for achieving the American dream. But what if instead it was tacky and gross?

A reality TV show for citizenship is somehow the most un-American and most American thing I've ever heard.

Although we already have a contest to prove who's the most American, and it's called the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest. What's more American than eating until your colon explodes and then going bankrupt for medical bills? But let me be clear, I hate this idea. Unless they're looking for a host, then I love this idea, and I'm available on Fridays. I...

I will say, it might be a nicer way to get deported. Instead of ICE agents disappearing you up in unmarked vehicles, Ryan Seacrest walks into your living room with a TV crew and is like, Carlos, we're taking you out of the USA.

But meanwhile, Kristi Noem was testifying in Congress today about whether her administration is deporting people without habeas corpus, which is their right to due process. If you didn't know what habeas corpus was, don't worry, Kristi Noem didn't Google it either. - What is habeas corpus? - Well, habeas corpus is a constitutional right that the president has to be able to remove people from this country and suspend their right to-- - No, let me stop you, ma'am. Habeas corpus, excuse me, that's incorrect.

Okay, look, if Kristi Noem was just a random person on the street, I'd get it if she was like, "Hibius Corpus? That's a Harry Potter spell, right? Like, blah, blah, blah, blah. Makes you invisible?"

But the Secretary of Homeland Security should know that Hapius Corpus prevents the president from deporting you without due process. Not that it lets the president deport you without due process. That's the opposite of what it means. And I didn't know you could have dyslexia for laws. LAUGHTER

Either way, Noam whiffed hard on that question. But unfortunately for her, the quiz was just beginning. Do you know what section of the Constitution the suspension clause of habeas corpus is in? I do not. No. Do you know which article it is in? No, I do not, sir. Okay, well, it is in Article 1. It was in 1. It was the first... You didn't even read the first one.

So can you stop... We get it, okay? Stop asking her harder questions. Like, how would senators like it if Kristi Noem asked you questions that she was an expert in, huh? Hey, Senator Kim, do you know how to trick a puppy into walking into an open grave? No? Not so smart now, are you? Anyway, Kristi Noem, you still don't know the basics of American law, so I'm sorry to say... we're gonna have to take you out of USA. But luckily...

I know. I know. Won them back after the dog-killing jokes. But luckily for America, Christine Noem isn't the only one in charge of keeping the country safe. We also got Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, two guys who look like they should be henchmen in a Ninja Turtles movie.

But are somehow running the FBI now. And before he took over, Dan Bongino wasn't afraid to tell us the truth about what the FBI was covering up. Nobody knows how much material people have on Jeffrey Epstein. It's unbelievable. The guy killed himself, and now nobody's gonna know.

Yeah, exactly. Epstein killed himself? Bongino knows the truth. And now he and Kash Patel get to see all the files. So on Sunday, they sat down for an interview to tell us what really happened. Because we know Epstein didn't just kill himself. He killed himself. What? He killed himself without air quotes?

That is the craziest thing I've ever heard, all right? I was a single-issue voter on this. Why did you change your mind? As a public defender, as a prosecutor who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was. Again, you want me to... I've seen the whole file. He killed himself.

I've never seen someone so sad that the deep state didn't kill someone. And also, hey, you can't talk so much shit about how the deep state did this and make it your entire personality, and then now you're in it, and you're, like, just shrugging it off, like, oh, yeah, I guess they were right the first time they investigated this. Hey, if you fail that hard, you gotta let Hillary Clinton kill you. And finally, yeah, yeah, I don't know what we're cheering for.

And finally, let's talk about the Department of Transportation. Recently, air travel in America has become what's known in the industry as totally . And I'm sure Secretary Sean Duffy has been working on a great plan to fix it. We are moving Jesus out of the basement. What? What, is that the new air traffic controller? Like...

Because that's what we need right now. To all the great midshipmen at the Merchant Marine Academy, you let me know how important this painting was to all of you. Now, we all know it was taken out of a place of prominence and put in down in the basement. I worked with the Academy, and because this is such a historic painting, I'm announcing that through that work with the Academy, this painting is going to go from the basement back to its place of prominence. It'll be a moment to celebrate. Oh, thank God.

No, no, no, no. Thank God, because when my plane is going down, I can tell the person next to me, don't worry, that's a shitty Jesus painting. It's upstairs at the Merchant Marine Academy now. For more on the return of the Jesus painting, let's go live to the painting and hear from the King of Kings himself, Jesus Christ. Hello, my child. Wait, hang on. Jesus, you're white? I mean, I...

I thought the real Jesus was, like, Middle Eastern or something. Oh, well, I can take any form I wish, and this particular one gets me through airport security faster. Right, right. Of course. Uh, but, uh, oh, um, hey, um...

Your Majesty, Sean Duffy is taking you out of the basement. I mean, you've got to be happy about that. No, no, I'm not happy about it. There's plenty of other things to be worried about right now. Planes are falling out of the sky. Boats are crashing into the Brooklyn Bridge. Newark Airport killed itself. I mean, not to brag, but when I was on Earth, we had zero plane crashes. Yeah.

Yeah, I guess that's technically true. But, hey, at least you can be seen by more people in this historic painting. This shitty painting? The one that looks like it was made at a bachelorette party drink and draw? I mean...

I've seen better portraits of myself on toast, okay? You think this is how I want to be seen? Hovering over a boat full of sailors. Hey, everybody, look! It's that famous painting, Jesus Drowns in Semen. No, no, no, no, no. I was fine in the basement. Oh!

I've had my pictures in worse places. Irish grandmother's bedrooms, prison cells, Mexican restaurants with a C health rating. Oui, grandes las cucarachas. No me gusta. Ah!

The point is, worry about stuff that's actually going on. Okay, well, I mean, you're kind of Jesus. Like, can you help us with some of this airport stuff? No! No! I've got more important things on my plate than fixing all your unforced errors. There's war, famine, the Knicks. You're welcome, by the way. Oh, whoa, holy crap. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

So that was you. Oh, no. The Knicks got this far by themselves. Of course it was me. Okay, so are they going to go all the way? God, this really is a comedy show. All right. Well, hey, can you get me courtside seats? For you? Anything. All right, awesome. I'm going to bring my friend, Jonathan Klepper. No f***ing way, all right? I hate that guy. Not my best work, you know? You can't make the body long and the head long. I mean, what was I thinking? Okay.

Amen to that. That's very accurate. Hey, Jesus Christ, everybody. When we come back, Bill Belichick is in love, so don't go away. Balancing work, family, and education isn't easy, but American Public University makes it possible. With online courses, monthly start dates, and flexible schedules, APU is designed for busy professionals who need education that fits their lives.

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Again, genesight.com for more information and to move forward on your journey to mental wellness. Welcome back to The Daily Show. I think I speak for everyone when I say politics, drools, and sports rules. For a full recap on the biggest stories in the world of jocks and straps, we turn to sports war. Get ready for battle. It's time for brought to you by Gamblerz. Gamblerz, stop hogging that extra kidney.

Hey! What's up, Jingle Berries? I'm Roy Chang. And I'm Michael Kosta. This is Sports War, the show where we are legally not allowed to agree with each other. That's right. So if I say the hardest thing in sports is hitting a fastball... Then I say the hardest thing is changing a sumo wrestler's diaper, all right? I'd like to see Aaron Judge do that.

I'm serious. I'd pay good money to see that. Oh, I'd pay good money to see a horse kick you in the face. Until then, let's talk sports. And the only story that matters is New York! Wild celebrations in New York City overnight after the Knicks eliminated the Boston Celtics to make the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time in 25 years. New York, New York!

Thousands of fans then poured into the streets post-game. They, like, shut down everything around Penn Station and Madison Square Garden. Is that Spider-Man?

Go New York, go New York, go! What a mind-blowing image. People smiling in midtown Manhattan. No city party's hotter while standing in your arena than New York City, all right? And I love that guy who climbed the billboard. Can you believe he only pays $1,700 a month to live up there? It's practically a studio.

But you know what? New Yorkers waited a long time. They deserve this. And the best part of this celebration, Michael Kosta wasn't there. Of course I wasn't there. I was out to dinner with my best friend, P.F. Chang.

We shared fajitas at Applebee's. Great guy, actually. Hey, Mixed fans, you're partying too early. It's only the second round. Your timing is almost as bad as that idiot I saw celebrating Halloween today. He had on a cop costume. A cop car. Was like with four other dudes in the exact same dumb cop costume. People are really f***ed.

- Stupid, man. Which brings us to our Bye Bye Boston Better Than Night. How will New Yorkers celebrate a Knicks championship brought to you by gambling? Gambling. I heard greyhounds actually like running until their legs explode. Let's move on from celebrating basketball and celebrate love or whatever the hell this is.

North Carolina head football coach Bill Belichick and his 24-year-old girlfriend Jordan Hudson are apparently engaged. A story in the New York Times says Jordan has told one person she and Belichick are, quote, engaged to be married.

Yeah, 73-year-old Bill Belichick and 24-year-old Jordan Hudson are engaged. That's going to be one hell of a wedding slash funeral. Bill, Bill, listen to me. This is all happening way too fast. I mean, has she even met your parents yet? No.

Why is Bill locking himself down when he could be cleaning up at the nursing home? Believe me, there's nothing hotter than going down on someone mid-dialysis. Grow up, Costa, you perv, all right? You're just jealous you'll never be famous enough to date a woman born four years from now. We sh...

We should be celebrating their love. Love is strange. That's why it's beautiful. Remember that turtle that had sex with that shoe? Well, that shoe was 40 years younger than that turtle, and they seem perfectly happy to me. Well, look, this brings us to our sugar baby better than night. Will Bill Belichick smile at his own wedding?

Brought to you by gambling. Gambling. Bet your inheritance before your 24-year-old stepmom gets it. Moving on, Kosta, what's the nicest bathroom you've ever used? The one at my friend P.F. Chang's house. And no, he doesn't live in a P.F. Chang's. He lives above one, and it makes the male a nightmare.

I truly regret talking to you. Roll the clip. The Dodgers signed Japanese pitcher Roki Sasaki after a meeting where he asked if Japanese-style toilets would be part of the team's new $100 million locker room. He was promised that they would be included. He says they were a factor in getting him to sign with the team. In case you were wondering, Japanese toilets often include a bidet function, remote controls, heated seats, and an automatic lid, among other features.

Hey, it's about time, all right? Baseball players are terrible at wiping. Have you ever noticed those shit marks under their eyes? It's embarrassing. Ronnie. Ronnie, sounds like you rub shit on your brain. I mean, Japanese toilets in American baseball stadiums? Why did we even fight World War II?

My grandfather died in Pearl Harbor. Well, a screening of the film. He choked on a milk duck. The point is, I don't need some toilet kamikaze-ing my butt crack. Which brings us to our Tush Tech Better Than Night. Who will be the first Dodgers player to get sucked into a Japanese toilet? Brought to you by gambling. Gambling. The new pope hasn't condemned it yet.

Well, that's all the time we have to wage war over sports. Join us next time when we debate if it's time for professional swimmers to swim in something other than water. Yeah, like a marinara sauce. That could be interesting. Italian swimmers would dominate. Don't be racist. You don't know anything about it.

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Welcome back to The Daily Show. My guest tonight is an award-winning fashion designer who launched his eponymous label in 2009. His memoir is called Walk Like a Girl. Please welcome Prabhu Guru. ♪♪ ♪♪

Bravo, everybody. All right. New York City, give you a standing ovation. I mean, thank you very much. As they should. This is a good-looking audience. First of all, let's just say that. And then thank you very much. And... Wait.

This is a good looking audience. - It is, it is incredible. And also, don't you think he looks better now? Okay, just saying, just saying. You follow the style guru and you look good. - No, I don't know what happened. - I don't know. - Yeah, I didn't-- - I decided to dress like Ronnie.

Didn't you get the memo what was going to happen? Yeah, it's good to see you, man. You're the highest of the highs in the fashion world. Bravo. You're the champ. Oh, thank you very much. Thank you. You honor us with your taste and your grace. Oh, thank you very much. Yeah, so you've dressed the Met Gala, Obama, Michelle Obama. How does a guy go from, how does a person go from being a kid in Nepal to the highest of the highs in New York City fashion?

I would say dreaming, impossible dreams, delusion, a whole lot of it, you know. And I would say an incredibly, incredibly supportive mother and siblings who believe in all your craziest dreams and say, you know, you're worth it. Yeah. So...

So having a delusional family. Delusional family. No, I didn't say family. I said delusional me. Right. But your family also encouraged you because that's a big part of this book. I mean, first of all, I read the book. It's great. Very easy to read. A little sad sometimes. Yes. That's life. Yeah, okay. I wasn't complaining. I was just describing it. And...

It's good. I don't like your complaint. No, it's bittersweet. It's like the sad moments, but there is hopefulness in it, even in the sad moments. When I'm reading the sad moments, I think it's because I know how you end up. I know how the book ends, so I'm like, oh. Yeah, this is nothing. But one theme of the book that keeps popping up is how much you love your mom. Yes. You keep talking about how much you love your mom. Like, why do you love your mom so much?

Biggest head on my shoulders. Let's just start with that. And, you know, not only do I love her, I like her. My mom is incredible. She's the best from the... Wait, hang on, hang on. Mom, you're incredible as well, and you are also the best as well. Well, that was an afterthought, just so that you know. No, I wasn't after. I was, like, immediately on it. Mom, you are the best. I love you, Mom. My mom is the best. My mom's better. My mom's better than you. Well, really? Really?

Have you written a book? Have I written a book about my mom? Not yet. There you go. Give me some time. Why do you love your mom? You know, the funny thing is I'm looking at you. Why? I can't get over how great you look in this. Thank you.

Just saying. I just woke up and I just saw this. I was like, you know what? Maybe I'll just try this on the show today. I didn't know. It's so embarrassing that you decided to... This is kind of embarrassing, but... Yeah, I mean, I just thought... Next time, check with your stylist. Will do, will do. Because you can't just walk on the show dressing like the host. Wait, but the real question... Wait, the real question to you is, how does the cleavage feel? This...

I don't know how you pull this off. This is very-- I'm very cold right now. - Oh, really? - Yeah. Well, you wear this all the time. I have no idea how you don't wear a shirt under your jacket. What makes you think this is not a shirt? No, I can see the cleavage. I don't know how you get with the-- Well, don't you think we should be equal in everything? So like, if we are talking about equality, why not let us show our, you know, cleavages? Yeah, you-- yeah, no, I agree.

Let's just say not everyone should show off cleavage, okay? 100%. 100%. There's some people who shouldn't be showing off their cleavage. Do you want to name names or no? No, we don't need to... Across multiple genders, some of them don't need to show their cleavage. Can you... Your mom. Tell me about your mom. Why do you love your mom? I tell you. Here's the thing. My mom saw me in full capacity in my joy, in my sorrows and everything and accepted me for who I am. You know, she always...

She never once judged me. Let's just put it this way. Which, by the way, it wasn't that, you know, white people watch this and they're like, that's normal. But where... In Nepal, it's... Yeah, but I think that it was a big deal for her to be like that for you in Nepal. Because you want the typical kid. I wasn't. I was an incredibly effeminate kid that I loved dressing up in my sister's clothes. And my mom was like, you know...

And I asked her recently, why did you allow me? And she said, you know, I looked at your face and the joy that you had. I could not deny it. And she was like, you know, and yes, that's how I feel. Yeah, exactly. I love you all for that. Every page of the book. That what you just felt, that's every page of this book. And yes, you know what? Guess what?

I also talk to my mom every morning. You know, she lives in Nepal in New York right now. She's in Nepal. So I'll talk to her. I'll call her. Sometimes it's a deep conversation. Sometimes just like, you know, what did you eat? But my mother is someone who is...

Looking at her, watching her, you know, raising us, like my siblings and I, alone, single-handedly, and then with such elegance and such, you know, like, I would say unbowed and unapologetically, was my first, you know, lesson in elegance and resilience. And I always keep on saying this.

Watching her, I realized elegance is not a posture, it's a practice. Is it too heavy for you? No, I'm trying to... Should I just bring it down? So basically, Ronnie, you know... So is your mom good or not? Mom good or bad? That's all I want. What's better than this? It's phenomenal. She's great. Okay, we get it. You love your mom, she loves you back. You don't love your mom. I love your mom.

I love my mom too. I love my mom. I just don't need to brag about it every five seconds. You have to meet my mother. Any of my friends who've met her, she's amazing. No, I'm sure she's great. You love her. Yeah. I can't believe this is so new to my mother's day. What is Mother's Day? I'm just kidding. I think that's the problem. There's multiple Mother's Days. There's one American one. Do you wish your mom? I wish her for everyone. I cover all the bases. Yeah.

But I mean, it's because you bring her up in the book. I mean, I'm joking. It's not every single page, but she's definitely a recurring theme. At the start, she gives you strength. She keeps coming into the story. Even now talking to you, you can't shut up about her. So it's like... Yeah. She is the spine behind my back. She's the reason why I'm here. And this is... She's also one of the... She's the person who convinced me to come here. I know. So...

That's great. Otherwise, I wouldn't have. You know that. Here's the thing. I could talk to you forever because you've got such an amazing story. I'm trying to get out some gems for people. So I'll just speed round through these questions. So what would you say to young fashion designers now who are trying to enter the industry now? Not just fashion designers, to anyone. I would just say, just don't worry about...

the boxes, in the world that's obsessed with applause and who is continuously needing validations, if you can love yourself without it, that's the first step. Because in that freedom, there's a liberation, right? So I would say don't worry about what people say. Just do what you want. Make mistakes. Do what you want. And be curious and read. That's all I would say. Don't applaud that. He said don't applaud that. He said don't. He doesn't need a validation. He doesn't need a validation. But...

When they hear the truth, people should be applauding. And I want to ask you a quick, because you were kind of in New York City at the kind of

peak of high fashion in New York. It was the 90s. It was crazy. Vanity Fair. The parties meant something. Sound cars. Yeah, there was no internet, really. There was maybe a blog. No, not really. AOL. Right, AOL. So what was the fashion world like then compared to now? How has it changed? I know it's a broad question. Yeah, I mean, it's changed. In the 90s or early 2000s, it was very...

I would say like experimental. There were like a lot of like artists. I lived around East Village on Lower East Side. So there was like all, I'll never forget. The first time I went to Cafe Jeton, I sat there and I was like, you know, writing something. I looked over, it was David Bowie. Yeah.

You know, it was like that. New York, you'd walk into, there'll be Chloe Sevigny, there'll be Marc Jacobs, and all of a sudden there's someone, you know, like... It was just this... Oh, another story I want to say is when I went to Indochina one time, the first time I remember, it was Salman Rushdie, Padma Lakshmi, and a porn star in the other table. And to me, that was like, that's exactly what New York is. And the fashion was so, like, kind of... Whoa, whoa, whoa, sorry, sorry. How did you know it was a porn star? Because...

- Because. - It was before internet, so. - No, no, because he was dating a friend of mine. That's how I know. - And your friend told you? - Yeah. - And so it was magic, 'cause magic in the area. - It was magical, it was magical, experimental. - And now it's not, now it's not. - No, no, no, it is, it is. Now I think, at that time I would say it was, you know, you kind of dress up for yourself, like and obviously for your friends and everything, now you're dressing up for everyone on internet.

So you kind of lose your identity. - And that's bad, right? That's not great. - I mean, I think anytime you need outside validation constantly that you can't exist without it, then it's bad. But sometimes just to play around with people, that's fine. - So what is the advantage you would say that the fashion has now over in the 90s, the industry? - I will say-- - I mean, many downsides, but what are some of the upsides?

Fashion and culture, you and I wouldn't be sitting like this. The people who, how we look, wouldn't be here. In fashion also, it has completely expanded the idea of beauty, who gets to be on a runway, the size is the race, you know. And that's what it is. So while, yes.

While we can sit down and talk about it, there are a lot of issues about it. What I'm trying to look at is the progress that it has made. Obviously, we have a long way to go. There would be no conversation about the curvy models. I remember when I was working at Bill Blass, it used to be like, oh, you have one Asian model, two black models, that's enough. Now you don't even talk like that.

Now it's just like, you don't think about it. - Well, I don't know if you heard the president, but that stuff is over now. We can't. - I'm talking about fashion people who are smarter sometimes. - So I guess for all the downsides of all these stupid influencers doing stuff for likes,

That's still... No, that's a job. That's a job. I don't think... A, a lot of influencers are my friends. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. No, I don't think they're stupid. Okay. And I think they are really smart people. Because it's business. It's a different kind of business. Sure. Yeah. So it's kind of taken away from the gatekeepers a little bit.

back in the day, right? - Yeah, but then what happens is, fashion should always be democratic. A housewife in, let's say, Minnesota can be looking at a red carpet on Met Gala and be like, you know what, I don't like it, I like it, I would never wear it. You're participating, that's why fashion is amazing. But then within that,

you start to find your own niche, you start to find your own world. And high fashion is high fashion because it's all hype and it's also a lot of craft in there. But fashion is for everyone. That's what we're living in right now. Well, that's a very cut down to a way to look at high fashion. And that's something I really like about you. You can go from the highest of all high fashion, the Met Gala, and you can come and have roadside coffee with me in Malaysia and we can both hang out. See how generous am I?

I just want... Dude, I'm so sorry. You know why that is? Because of my mother. Just end every story with that. You don't think I'm going to do it? I'll talk about my mom. Yeah, me too. Look, I'm trying to compress so much. I'm sorry if it's a bit rushed. So I want people to see...

your genius sometimes. It's hard to see creativity in action. The best way I know how to represent it is if I give you some photos and you kind of illustrate for us kind of your ideas, your thoughts on these, on this fashion concept. This is your... Okay, all right. So what do you want me to talk about? So this is your, this is Tessa Thompson at the Met Gala. This is your dress that you made. Yes.

We would call it an ensemble. Oh, I'm sorry. It's an ensemble because there's a white halter cotton mini dress underneath, and this is like a silk wool, you know, pannier dress. Did your mom make this too? No, no. It was inspired by her. Okay. So can you just draw as though it makes people think like you're doing something cool on it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

So what were the influences for this? Like, what were some of the influences? So the influence of the super fine tailoring was the theme this year. And I kind of wanted to take someone like Tessa, who really experiments with her role in film and everything, and also in fashion, and kind of, like, take and abstract the menswear aspect of it, you know? And just, that's why, like, if you look at it, this is a very traditional, like, traditional tuxedo year, all of these, right? Yeah.

this whole area and then then we kind of like you know paired it with like something that's an old school pannier like those like petticoats right so we did that it's almost an eight which is a good lucky number for me anyway um and then um and then and then this is like a latex tie you know there's like a little bit subversion that i always like and the back is completely open and the

You can't really see it. Actually, you can see it. This is all hand-stitched, this, this. OK, like, you know, yeah. So it's like, so it looks like, oh, just a dress with an ensemble that's really, and this is all made in New York, you know. That's what 90% of my stuff we make in New York. So this is super cheap, right? Guess what?

We don't have to worry about tariffs. Yeah, we make it in New York. Here's another... This year at Met Gala was crazy. So this is something... Actually, I think I was at the show. Thank you for inviting me. I was totally out of place there. No idea what I was doing. This is an outfit you had at the... You should have just worn this, by the way, what you're wearing. And you could have come... Actually, next show, maybe you should come out instead of me. No, I don't know if I have.

- How about that? - And me, maybe I'll come here. - It's okay, I don't need that validation. - I'm all right. - Trust me, you'll be addicted to it. Why do you think we do like gazillion shows? - So tell me about this. - All right, so this is again, silk wool. This is like a men's shirt. You know, this almost like this idea for tuxedo, end of the night, you open it up, you know, the bow tie. And it's like, I always find that kind of sexy. Like you've had a good time. - Sure, clearly.

There you go, exactly. I don't think I've ever seen you button a shirt, by the way.

I don't believe in that. I don't believe in closing anything. Just be open, OK? And this is actually-- we call it a dhoti pants. So it's this-- it's like in a shape, balloon-shaped pants. Now, this whole color pieces, I love it together because this is very Americana, you know, like this tuxedo, men's shirt. And this is very from our part of the world, from India and Nepal. So this idea, I always do it, is like west meeting the east, not east meeting the west.

It's West meeting the East. Just wanted to put it out there. - Yeah, I like that phrasing. - Yeah. And then this is like a cashmere cardigan that's made in Nepal. And it was styled by my friend Tina, who's here actually. - Oh, wow, there you go. So this is also super cheap, right? This was like, okay. - Let's not-- - So let's try this one. Can you tell me what's going on with this outfit?

So why is this like a high fashion thing or what? Can you explain this? What is this? Wait, hold on. It's like, how many layers? Well, including the dandruff. That's like, there's like, at least he's wearing like... Oh my Lord, do you see this?

It is a dandruff. Sorry, we're blocking the thing. Oh, wait, wait, wait. What are you doing? Oh, shoot, shoot, shoot. Okay, so anyway. I would say... Okay, let's start with good. So what is that? What did you just circle there?

I think it's like a... It's dandruff. Oh, it's dandruff? Yeah. I think so. It's a layer of his... Or it's like, you know, when you press something too much. No, I think his skin is rejecting. Yeah. What is the... What is going on here? Why is there... Is this a thing for fashion? Is he legitimately fashionable, or am I just... No, and you know what it's representing to me is really who he is. Like, you know, confused. You know? That's what I would say.

But good hair, though. Good hair. I would say the hair is good. It's also like Botox gone wrong, but anyway. But you're the fashion guy. You don't comment on the... Beauty. We do comment head to toe, just so that you know. Fair enough. But five shirts, is that good? Should you ever wear five shirts? I would say no, but...

Demna, who used to design Balenciaga, might disagree with me. It's very much like layer upon layer upon layer of shirts. They're trying to, yeah. As I said, he's trying to hide something. I don't know what it is. He is almost like the antithesis of you. Because he's wearing five shirts and you're wearing no shirts. True. Direct opposite. But also, you have seen why. Why? Oh, okay. You know what I'm talking about.

This is the last one. This is the last one. So give me a meal. So... Who's this child? Who's this baby? Someone is... Oh. Oh. So what do you think about this outfit right here? What's... Failure to launch. I mean...

What does the hat say? Oh. It's a slogan. It's some political slogan. I mean, and we all believe in that, but in a sense, but not their way. Sure, sure. Not again, actually. Yeah. Do we? Not really. Yeah. You're like, I don't know. Yeah. I mean. Make America great. Well, do you like the spin on it? Because usually this is a red, but this seems to be a limited edition black, black on black.

I mean, does that give you, does that buy him any credit with you? Not at all. Okay. Please. What do you like about the fit? You know, what do you think about the fit? The fit, the fit, the issue is the fit. Okay. You know, it is, we call it in, in fashion, we call it like a, it's like a shift, not a tight dress, but it's like a mini dress, you know, like, you know, so it's like a, that shape is, look at that. Yeah. It's like very like sixties, uh,

You know, this is almost like 60s, I would say. I mean, I would say his views are also like the 60s. Twiggy. You know the model Twiggy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what she would, yeah. Yeah, and that's what she would wear. Well, don't be negative. Anything positive from this? I love the curtains.

- Oh, the curtains you like? Okay. - Yeah. - Okay. - And this print is really nice. - Okay. - It could be a good earrings. - Okay. - And then this drape, let's see, yeah. I would say that, and I think, you know, he was a visionary, but he, I don't know. - Okay, so this, would you recommend this fit? Thumbs up or thumbs down? - To him? - No, to anyone. - Oh. - This is, I think, I believe this is called an om-som. Is that what you just drew there?

- This is, what I'm trying to do is like literally trying to make it into like 60s shift dress, very mod. - Oh, okay. - So if that's what the case is, it's very like almost like, then I can see like, like it was-- - It's very Jackie Onassis if you, yeah. - Dude, that's what I saw, exactly that. - Yes, yes, yes. - See, I think you're in a wrong career. You should be a fashion designer, yeah. - All right, all right, Pramil. You're the best, man. - Thank you, I did good. - Oh, you're the best. Thanks for sharing your talent and thanks for coming on the show.

And thanks for sharing your good taste. I really appreciate it. You're the best man. - Thank you very much. - Walk Like a Girl is available now. We're right back after this. - Hey, that's our show for tonight. Now here it is, your moment of zen. - Bobby Lynn.

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