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Trevor Noah: 1965年的塞尔玛事件,马丁·路德·金领导的民权游行被捕,突显了当时美国南部种族歧视的严峻现实。曼德拉的生平,从他改名到加入非洲人国民大会,再到入狱和出狱后致力于种族和解,都体现了他为争取种族平等所付出的巨大努力。他即使在狱中也能激励世界各地的年轻人,他的影响力巨大,即使去世后,人们仍然为他庆祝生日,这体现了他非凡的人生成就。 存在两种曼德拉形象:电影中的英雄形象和现实中复杂的人物形象。南非种族隔离制度下的压迫促使曼德拉加入非洲人国民大会,参与反种族隔离斗争。1948年南非政府建立种族隔离制度,黑人被剥夺政治权利,生活受到严格限制。面对政府的暴力镇压,曼德拉和非国大最终选择以暴力回应。曼德拉因反抗种族隔离制度被捕入狱,但他坚守民主和自由的理想。出狱后成为南非首任黑人总统,他致力于种族和解,让白人参与到国家的建设中。出狱后没有怨恨,而是致力于国家的转型,这体现了他宽广的胸怀和远大的目标。 Roy Woods Sr.: 塞尔玛的民权游行中,黑人被捕仅仅是因为没有获得游行许可证,这体现了种族不公正。白人游行无需许可证,而黑人却需要,这显示了种族歧视的双重标准。尽管黑人被捕,但至少这次逮捕没有暴力,这算是一种进步。从私刑到殴打再到和平逮捕,这代表着民权运动的进步,尽管进步缓慢。未来可能会有更多类似的游行,并最终被改编成电影。在南非反种族隔离运动中,女性发挥了重要作用,温妮·曼德拉就是其中一位杰出的代表。在南非,女性被视为坚强的象征,“打击妇女如同打击磐石”,体现了南非社会对女性的尊重。民权运动中有很多值得纪念的游行,它们是黑人争取权利的重要方式。1995年的百万黑人游行旨在关注黑人面临的各种问题,包括种族歧视和失业等。黑豹党在1967年进行武装抗议,这是一种极端但有效的争取权利的方式。许多黑人女性为争取平等权利做出了巨大贡献,艾达·B·威尔斯就是其中一位杰出的代表。艾达·B·威尔斯在妇女争取选举权的游行中,拒绝被安排在队伍的后面,体现了她的勇气和决心。讲述了他祖母和朋友的一次经历,暗示了她们可能在加勒比海地区开始了新的生活。

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This chapter transports listeners to Selma, Alabama in 1965, recounting the arrest of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and other civil rights marchers. It highlights the context of racial injustice and the progress made, albeit slowly, in the face of oppression.
  • Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s arrest in Selma, Alabama for parading without a permit.
  • The contrast between the treatment of black and white protestors.
  • The perspective that peaceful arrests represented progress despite ongoing racial injustice.

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You're listening to Comedy Central. February 1st, 1965.

It's the Black History Month Daily Show. Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah. My guest tonight, up-and-coming comedian Bill Cosby. This guy's jokes are gonna knock you out. But we begin in Selma, Alabama. If you aren't familiar with Selma, it's a small southern city located ten miles east of No Negroes, Please and five miles north of Say, Boy.

And it's also where today, recent Nobel Peace Prize winner Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. got into some legal trouble.

Dateline Selma. Civil rights leader the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. was arrested today while attempting to lead a mass march of 300 Negroes on the Dallas County Courthouse to protest voter registration procedures. The Negroes were taken into custody on charges of parading without a permit. For more, we go to our junior civil rights correspondent, Roy Woods Sr. Now, Roy, what did you see out there? I saw a bunch of bull Trevor.

Proud Negro men and women being arrested for no reason. Well, now, Roy, the police said there was a reason. They were parading without a permit. Oh, I'm sorry. Did the Klan fill out their paperwork before marching in my neighborhood?

When have you ever seen white people arrested for parading without a permit? Well, boy, that's just the world we live in. Black people aren't ever gonna get the same treatment as white people, and that's never gonna change. Actually, Trevor, I don't agree. You have to look at the bright side of things. Yeah, maybe the cops arrested Dr. King and a bunch of our brothers and sisters, but they did it this time without violence. That's progress.

I mean, 40 years ago, a white man wouldn't even give a black man a glass of water. Now, not only can we have water, we can get it whether we want it

Well, I mean, you... I guess you could call that progress. Oh, I do call that progress. We've gone from lynchings to beatings, now to peaceful arrests. In fact, I heard Dr. King is coming back right here next month to Selma to march across that bridge, and at the rate of progress we're making, I bet you it's gonna be a fun day marching arm in arm with the police, and one day they'll make a movie about it, and it'll be called Selma, the day when nothing happened at all.

Obama's main purpose in South Africa was to pay tribute to Nelson Mandela. Madiba's light shone so brightly, even from that narrow Robben Island cell, that in the late '70s, he could inspire a young college student on the other side of the world. Mandela said, "Young people are capable, when aroused, "of bringing down the towers of oppression "and raising the banners of freedom."

Now's a good time to be aroused. - This is probably the only thing that Trump and Obama agree on. Trump's like, "You're so right, Barack. There's never a bad time to be aroused." He's like, "Ah, that's not what I meant." He's like, "Too late. Don Jr.'s out already, baby."

We were catching up with President Obama, who's in South Africa to celebrate Nelson Mandela's 100th birthday. And let's just acknowledge how dope you have to be for people to keep throwing you birthdays after you're dead. Just think about how amazing you have to be. Like, most of you can't even get your roommate to come to your party, and you're alive. Yeah. It's like, dude, what do you mean you can't come over? We live in the same room!

So who was Nelson Mandela to get Obama to take a break from kite surfing and go all the way to Africa to give his first big speech since he left the White House? Well, really there are two Nelson Mandelas. The first is played by every black actor in Hollywood. - My name is Nelson Mandela. I'm the first accused. - I have dedicated myself to this struggle of the-- - Those in power deny your freedom.

- The only path to freedom is. - I will walk to the quarry, but I will no longer run. - It is not your place to tell me what is possible. - This is the time to build our nation. - Ignorance brings chaos, not knowledge. - Now I know, I know a lot of people complain that she takes roles she shouldn't, but I think she nailed it there. She killed it, she was pretty good. Scarlet can act, yo.

So there's movie Mandela and there's real Mandela. And because today marks 100 years since his birth, I just wanted to spend a few minutes talking about the man because he spoke about me on my birthday. Now, that's not true at all. Now, the first thing you need to know about Nelson Mandela is that his name was not Nelson. When I went to school, the lady teacher, Ms. Dinghane, asked, what is your name?

Wow. Can you imagine how Mandela's parents must have felt? Their kid left the house as Rulishasha and comes back as Nelson.

Like, his dad must have been so mad. He'd be like, they called you what? I'm calling your teacher right now! Hello? This is Gada Mandela! No, your name is Jeremy now. Ah! Me too! Ah!

Now, the reason Nelson Mandela had to have a Christian name is basically because back in the early 20th century, white people ran South Africa. So you couldn't have a name that they couldn't pronounce, right? Even though they were only 20% of the population, they controlled the government, the land, the economy, everything. Yeah, it's kind of like how today all those no-gluten people have control of all of our menus. Yes.

Except in South Africa, the intolerance was real. So it was this oppression, it was this oppression that pushed Nelson Mandela to join a revolutionary movement called the African National Congress. All right, he joined politics

when he was just 26 years old, partly to fight racial inequality and also because he had just been kicked off his parents' Obamacare. Now, at first, at first, the ANC fought for racial equality peacefully, but the racist government only got more oppressive. In fact, in 1948, South Africa's government set up apartheid, which made legal racism the foundation of the entire country. Black people couldn't vote, they had to live in certain areas, and they were banned from playing sports with white people.

And I'm not gonna lie, that last part, I completely understand. I mean, if your system is based on white supremacy, you can't have black people dunking all over your shit. It just doesn't go with the narrative. Be like, white people are superior. Oh, wait, I wasn't ready, I wasn't ready.

In fact, the government became so oppressive that Mandela and the ANC decided to resort to violence. They bombed power stations, post offices, and I mean, they did it when people weren't in there, but still, they blew shit up. And there were many people, not just in South Africa, but around the world, who wanted him to respond to the brutality of the government with civility, to which Mandela replied, "Bore shit." There are many people who feel that it is useless and futile for us to continue talking peace and nonviolence.

against the government whose reply is only savage attacks on an unarmed and defenseless people. - I know for a lot of people seeing a young radical Mandela, that's a bit of a shock. Yeah, it's like finding out one of the Care Bears mauled a hiker to death. I mean, I'd expect that out of Tenderheart, but you, Funshine?

But you see, Nelson Mandela believed that violence was necessary to fight a violent government, and he paid a price for it. In 1962, when Mandela was 44 years old, the apartheid government arrested him and sentenced him to life in prison. And what he said in the docks is legendary. He said, "I've cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society. It is an ideal which I hope to live and to achieve. But if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die."

I mean, I'm prepared to die, but I don't want to die. I'm saying I'm prepared. Don't make me die. I'm just saying, like, prepared to die, but not die necessarily. Let's edit that part out. Just leave that.

So Mandela went on to spend almost 30 years in prison. Yeah. And the longer he stayed in prison, the more Mandela became a legend around the world. By the 1980s, you had concerts around the globe to free Nelson Mandela. And you got to admit, you got to admit, it's probably good that that teacher changed his name, because it would have been a lot harder for white people around the world to protest his freedom when they couldn't pronounce his name.

If they were like, "Free running mixups! Free! Free!" You know, let's just go save the whales, guys. Let's just go save the whales.

Now, Nelson Mandela's story up to that point was impressive, but it's what he did after he came out of prison that transformed him from a leader to a legend, all right? Because when he became South Africa's first black president, he reconciled the country, and he insisted that white people be a part of it, all right? And you realize, this is a black country, and he's the first black president. He could have easily just said, I'll give you white people a 10-minute head start. All right?

You guys put me in prison for 30 years. I don't even know what a workman is. I just hope I get to meet Elvis. What? Five-minute head start. So... so, you see, this is just part of why people like Barack Obama look up to Nelson Mandela. This was a man who grew up in a country steeped in racism, spent decades in prison fighting it, and then dedicated his life to a world of racial progress.

And, most impressively, when he was asked why he's not bitter, he had this to say. - You end up coming out of prison and there is no bitterness. How is there no bitterness? - Well, I hated oppression. And when I think about the past, the type of things they did, I feel angry. You have a limited time to stay on Earth. You must try and use that period for the purpose

of transforming your country. - That's why he's a legend.

Happy 100th birthday, my diva. You must remember, because of so many of the struggle leaders in South Africa were either imprisoned or exiled, the movement in South Africa was held together in large part by women in the country. And so it's weird for me, 'cause I understand you travel the world, you understand that everywhere feminism is different and the idea of women is different, but I grew up in a world that was very matriarchal and where women were the most dangerous freedom fighters that existed. That is true. You read up on Winnie Mandela

Like Nelson Mandela was an icon, but the police in the country were afraid of Winnie Mandela. You know, they were, and we had a phrase in South Africa that was, we still use it today, which was, which means you strike a woman, you strike a rock. And that's what I grew up learning. That's a, it was kudos, man. It was fire.

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We will be discussing the history of civil rights marches. They were how black people fought the system, made change. It's also how your granddaddy got his steps in. Now, there are the famous marches that we all know about. The March on Washington, Birmingham, and the March in Selma, which I was getting ready to attend until I found out that march was on a bridge. I don't do bridges well.

I told Dr. King if God wanted the black man to cross rivers, we would have been born with those little floaty things on our arm, like white people. But there are many other marches in black history worth noting, such as the 1995 Million Man March in Washington, D.C. Now, some people say the crowd size didn't actually reach a million men. But if that's true, it's only because it was the '90s and all those parachute pants took up too much space.

But at least hundreds of thousands of men attended this march. They gathered to call attention to black issues like structural racism, unemployment, and most importantly, an end to the jerry curl, or as I call it, the black mullet. That hairstyle has held more black men back than bad credit. The jerry curl is the only hairstyle that made black men look like Jewish mothers. Sadly, I did not attend the Million Man March.

I tried to, but I misheard the location. You see, they said it was at the National Mall, but what I thought they said was the Nashville Mall. And let's just say all those white people in Tennessee were as confused as I was when I was protesting in front of an Orange Julius. Now, you can't speak about marches without speaking about the big, bad, sexy, afro-repping Black Panthers. Look at them.

Anyone wearing leather in the summertime means business. In 1967, the Black Panthers protested against California gun control by marching to the Capitol with their grievances and some AK-47s. That's right, white people. I know you like to think that being out in public with a big gun was your idea, but that was some black shit first. And while bringing guns to a debate about gun control is not very logical,

It is very effective. In fact, it gives you the upper hand in most situations. My Uncle Bebo once walked into a Chipotle and forgot he had a loaded pistol in his hand. He got free guacamole for life. Well done, Uncle Bebo. But before you criticize armed protests, remember, it was a different time, and you had to be there, which I was not. I wanted to join the Black Panthers, but the day before the protest, my barber cut my afro too low, and I ended up with a buzz fade.

I couldn't join the Black Panthers looking that square. I look like a Wesley Snipes who does pay his taxes. And finally, I would be remiss if I did not mention the powerful Black women who fought to unshackle the chains of oppression. One of those icons is Ida B. Wells, who famously took over a 1913 march for women's suffrage.

The white women said that she had to march in the back, but Ida refused, telling those white ladies, "Either I go with you or not at all." Which is basically a turn-of-the-century way of saying, "I'm about to take my earrings off, heifer." I didn't attend this march either because I was not yet born. But my grandmother Regina Wood Jr. was able to go, but she didn't go. She said she was going with her best friend Susan.

But the two got lost on the way and somehow they ended up in the Caribbean where they've been living as roommates ever since. Well, that's all the time we have for today. I'm Roy Wood Jr. This has been CP Time. And remember, we're for the culture. Must have been more than friends, I guess. They ain't got but one bed in their house. This is the very first day of Black History Month, so I thought I'd hit the streets to ask black and white people how they were celebrating.

As we enter yet another Black History Month, we thought it was important to connect with people and to find out what their idea of black history was. And nothing says black history like Hollywood Boulevard. Actually, it's the closest that the crew will come to Martin Luther King Boulevard. So...

How are you? I'm doing good. It's Black History Month. Absolutely. What excites you the most about it? I think it's an opportunity we can celebrate ourselves, our contributions as a people. Like, it makes me feel good. I love Black History Month. What do you love about it? Our kids are getting more educated. Not in Florida, though. Well, I don't know about Florida. Nobody does. What do you know about Black History Month?

I'm tourist, so I don't know much, but I respect everyone. I like white, black, brown, everyone. I know, but they already had their turn. It's our turn now. What does Black History Month mean to you? Celebration. Celebration. Are there any black people you'd like to celebrate? Martin Lawrence. Out of all the black people, I mean, I love Black History Month. Yes. You excited? It'll be my first. It's your first Black History Month? Yeah. How long have you been black? Yeah.

- But we don't do it in South Africa. - Oh, you don't do it in South Africa? What's the blackest thing you've ever done? - When we have guests over and I don't wanna share our food, so we just all go hungry until they leave. - What's the blackest thing you've ever done? - Eat chitlins. - Oh man, I put a cereal in the glad bag so I can keep it for the roaches.

Because if the roach ate it first, I'm damn sure I ain't going to eat it. That's so black, I'm embarrassed. Every time I go to a new city, I like to go to the grocery store. I'll stop, I'll get some watermelon and some chicken, and I'll see if they'll say something to me at the register. Has anybody ever? Don't go to Mississippi. Have you ever been denied a loan? Nope. That's probably the whitest thing you've ever done. What is the whitest thing you've ever done? With surfing. Shut up.

And how did that work out? Not very good. But it's the whitest thing you've ever done. Improv. Paid by taxes. Mayonnaise. Can you name any of the members of the Wu-Tang Clan? No, I can't. You know any of the words to the Black National Anthem? That's messed up, but I don't. You know any of the words to the Black National Anthem?

I know to stand up. Even if you don't know the words? I don't know the words. You're going to be respectful. Can you name any members of the Wu-Tang Clan? No. Have you ever been late somewhere? Heck no. I'm very punctual. That's pretty white. I know. Do you know any of the members of the Wu-Tang Clan? I don't know. That's messed up. You're about to take my card from me right now. Give it here. Give it here. Give it here. You know any of the words to the Black National Anthem?

- No. - Are you know any of the members of the Wu-Tang Clan? - I do. - Who? - Ghostface, Killer, Raekwon, you got GZA, RZA. - My , my , that's it? What is the blackest thing you've ever done? - I went to Roscoe's Chicken and Waffle. - Yeah. What is the blackest thing you've ever done? - Oh, damn. - That's pretty black right there. Do you follow anybody on black Twitter? - I don't have a black Twitter. - Smoke weed.

I was in a hip hop group in high school. No, you weren't. I was. What was your name in the group? Big and Tasty. Big and Tasty. Give me something. Look at me, look at me, look at me. Red chasing like a bakery. Like, I don't know. I like that. What is the blackest thing you've ever done?

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and the comic strip Peanuts. Now, it seems like a joke, but the reason this was a landmark is that before Franklin appeared, newspaper comic strips were segregated, right? Black comic strips were always separate from white comic strips. In fact, if you even tried to put the pages of the newspaper together, the police would just break down your door. You'd be like, "Whoa!" And they'd be like, "Well, well, well, "we got a troublemaker over here."

So the character of Franklin was a pretty big deal. And what's really fascinating is his origin story. - April, 1968, Martin Luther King had been shot and killed. American cities burned in rage. In California, a 42 year old teacher and mother of three felt helpless. - And I remember sitting in suburbia,

Saying, is there anything I can do? Harriet Glickman wanted to reach someone with influence. She wrote to Charles Schultz. His Peanuts comic strip was read by nearly 100 million people each week. Charlie Brown, Lucy, Linus, they were all white. Glickman told Schultz he should integrate. Okay, that was pretty dope of that lady, but, uh, yeah, but.

But at the same time, also kind of a weird reaction to a tragedy. I mean, Martin Luther King is dead, there's chaos in the streets, and her first reaction is, "Maybe Charlie Brown can help." For more on this civil rights trailblazer, we turn now to our very own Roy Wood Jr., everybody! Roy.

No matter who you are, you gotta love Franklin, right? Oh, man, love him? Are you kidding, man? Franklin was a straight-up G. Integrated the shit out of peanuts. Yeah, and it must have been a pretty big moment for you as a kid when he first appeared in the strip. First appeared? That was in 1968. How old do you think I am? 50... 40? 60? I'm 39, Trevor. 39. Here's the thing.

Newspaper Franklin was great. Newspaper Franklin was great. You can't argue that. But when they put him on TV, it was a different story. All of a sudden, they made him a stereotype. ♪ You do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around ♪ ♪ That's what it's all about ♪ Why couldn't Franklin just do the hokey pokey, Trevor? You telling me black kids can't put their left foot in and take their left foot out?

It's like Franklin was auditioning for House Party 2. Yeah, but Roy, but Roy, it's still cool to have him in there, even if he had one dance break. It was every time with this kid. Any time you walk down the street in Peanutsville, you might run into Franklin and his homeboy, pop-walking. And even when he's hanging out with his friends, everyone else gets a normal handshake, but no, not Franklin. He got a slapped skin.

See what I mean? All the other Peanuts are just kids, but Franklin's running around Peanutville like a damn baby shaft. He's a tiny, bad mother-- -Shut your mouth. -I'm talking about Franklin. Look, I just don't want him to be the other kid all the time. Even at Thanksgiving, yeah, they invited him, but look where they put him. He's by himself. Even the dog gets to sit with the kids. Why is the dog even at the damn table?

It's cool though, Franklin. Franklin, look, man. Franklin, they did you a favor. You don't want none of that bland-ass white people turkey anyway. - Oh man, today was a day when we got some really sad news that Aretha Franklin passed away.

That was, yeah, that was rough for a lot of people. And not just because of the music, because of who she was. I remember I used to sing the songs with my mom. So I grew up, you know, most of the time it was just me and my mom. And so I used to sing all the songs, not really knowing what they meant, per se. So as a little kid, I was confident, like, you make me feel like a natural woman.

And then I got older and I was just like, whoa, wait, what was I doing? I was like, mom, why didn't you stop me? She's like, because you look like a natural woman. You were doing so well. What I loved is like Aretha Franklin. You know, you see everybody talking about this is,

It's one of those examples where you see an artist who uses their platform to go beyond just making money and doing what they do. You read these beautiful stories about how Aretha Franklin had it in her contract that she wouldn't perform for segregated audiences. So if audiences were segregated by ratios, like no, I'm not gonna perform.

You know, she was one of the first people who supported Angela Davis, you know, from the Black Panthers. She fought for Martin Luther King. Like this is at a time when it wasn't cool to do that. It was risky to you and your livelihood. I mean, you saw what happened with Nina Simone, you know, and she was out there and she was doing it.

And she was making songs that at the time were crazy when you think of how women were situated in society. I mean, you know, the Me Too movement has shown that we still have a long way to go, but at that time it was pretty much like women just keep quiet. And she was out there and R-E-S-P-E-C-T was, I mean, I remember that as well. Like my mom used to say that to me as like, like if I ever like say something back chat or whatever, and then my mom would be like, R-E-S-P-E-C-T. And she's like, play the song. And I'd be like, yeah, R-E-S-P-E-C-T. Find out what...

And she was, you know what I loved about Aretha as well, is like the stories that she was gangster. Like she full on, she only performed when she had her money in cash before the gig, always. Like that her whole life, till like now, till she was like, where's the money? Like she was the original bitch better have my money. Money before the gig, then I sing. Like I sometimes think to myself, like the girl's backstage counting it and she's like doing it word by word. ♪ You and I, I went hiding ♪ ♪ Home, home ♪

So yeah, man, she'll be missed. Everything we see today in so many ways, in music, male and female, is because of her. So Aretha Franklin, rest in peace, man. It's a beautiful, beautiful story.

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