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TDS Time Machine | Klepper vs. Maga 2024

2024/12/19
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Jordan Klepper:通过与民众的访谈和参与式活动,展现了美国社会普遍存在的对内战可能性、特朗普审判以及未来政治走向的担忧和不同观点。访谈内容涵盖了对内战的担忧、对美国政治未来走向的预测、对特朗普的评价以及对司法系统的信任度等多个方面。Klepper 试图通过这些访谈揭示美国社会在政治观点上的严重分歧,以及这种分歧可能带来的潜在风险。 Adam Kinzinger:表达了对美国再次爆发内战的担忧,认为美国距离内战比人们想象的更近,并强调了讨论这一问题的必要性。他认为内战的爆发形式可能并非南北战争那样的大规模军事冲突,而是可能在局部地区爆发暴力冲突。 特朗普支持者:对特朗普的审判表示不满,认为司法系统存在偏见,并对特朗普的政治理念表示支持。他们对特朗普的定罪表示强烈反对,认为这是一个不公正的审判。部分支持者对特朗普的某些言论和行为表示质疑,但仍然坚定地支持特朗普。同时,他们对卡玛拉·哈里斯和乔·拜登等政治人物持批评态度,并对总统遇刺事件提出了阴谋论。

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Why do some Americans believe a civil war is likely in the near future?

43% of Americans think a civil war is very likely within the next decade, with some believing it could happen even sooner. This fear is shared by both ordinary citizens and politicians like Adam Kinzinger, who warns that political divisions could easily turn violent.

What skills do Americans think they would bring to a hypothetical civil war?

Participants in a focus group mentioned skills like gun handling, survival tactics, leadership, and critical thinking. While some joked about knife combat, the underlying concern about potential violence was evident.

How do Americans envision the division of states in a modern-day civil war?

In a fantasy draft, conservatives favored red states like Texas and Florida, while liberals preferred blue states like California and Hawaii. Some trade proposals were made, such as swapping Austin for Cleveland, but overall, the division highlighted deep ideological splits.

What was the first law that came to mind for potential changes in a new constitution?

One participant suggested getting rid of petty laws, specifically mentioning the absurdity of being placed on a sex crime registry for public urination.

How do Trump supporters view his recent court challenges and demands for immunity?

Many supporters believe Trump should have total immunity for actions taken while president, arguing that without it, many people could face jail time. Some even expressed support for Trump as a king-like figure, with one saying, 'Trump as king is good.'

What did Trump supporters think about his potential dictatorship for a day?

Supporters saw it as necessary, with one suggesting that half the Department of Justice should be arrested on day one. They compared it to Mussolini's style of leadership rather than Hitler's.

How did Trump's recent conviction affect his supporters' views on the justice system?

Many viewed the conviction as a sham, comparing it to Stalinism. They expressed distrust in the justice system, especially in cities like New York, and believed Trump could only get a fair trial in states like Ohio or Florida.

What was the MAGA crowd's reaction to the assassination attempt on the president-elect?

While some acknowledged it as a tragic event, others believed it was an inside job orchestrated by the Democrats or the deep state. They questioned the official narrative, suggesting it was too convenient that the shooter was a disgruntled white Republican.

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Jordan Klepper explores the growing concerns about a potential second civil war in America, interviewing people with varying political viewpoints. The discussion includes the possibility of violence and how Americans envision a divided nation.
  • 43% of Americans believe a civil war is very likely in the next decade
  • Experts and ordinary citizens express concern about the potential for violence
  • A focus group exercise explores how Americans would divide states and create new laws in a hypothetical civil war scenario

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When you've been to as many rallies as I have, you get used to hearing things you don't encounter in everyday life, like, go to hell and Klepper's a bitch. But lately, the crowds have been coalescing around one particular idea that nobody wants to hear. Civil war. Civil war. Civil war. Civil war. Civil war. The Civil War, our country's bitter attempt at divorce that ended with mom and dad back together in a state of constant resentment. Forty-three percent of Americans think it's very likely there's a civil war in the next decade.

decade. Okay, I'm going to be perfectly straight up and honest. It's going to happen much sooner than that. How soon? Because I have an Airbnb rented in the Outer Banks. But it turns out a lot of Americans think this way. And not just your uncle who has been hoarding weapons and Vienna sausages in his basement bunker. Even sitting members of Congress like January 6th committee member Adam Kinzinger.

How close are we to another civil war? I think we're closer than we'd like to think. And I used to be afraid to talk about it. Now I think it's important for us to talk about it. To talk about a civil war. Yeah, because I think we have to be aware of where we're at. I don't think it's going to be north and south with large marching armies. You know, if I live in Illinois, there's going to be Republicans and Democrats in Illinois. I do think it could get violent easily. I mean, that's scary. It is scary.

If a city and representative like Kinzinger thinks a second civil war is possible, it's something we need to take seriously. So I decided to gather Americans in one of our most sacred traditions of civic unity, the corporate focus group, bringing together conservatives and liberals in purple Arizona who all think civil war is a real possibility. The civil war is tomorrow. What is the skill set you bring to the battlefield?

Well, I'm good with a gun. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. James? I have survival skills. I was in the military. I know how to shoot a weapon. Hand-to-hand combat if I have to. I can stick you with a knife and not, you know, cry about it. We're laughing about sticking people with a knife, but... Okay. Lansing, what skills? Leadership. Leadership? Yeah, I just feel there's going to need to be some leaders. Beau, what skills do you have? Critical thinking.

Jesus. For all of the liberals here, we have a leader and a critical thinker. This is why the blue side is . But if America was going to be divided in a civil war, where would the modern-day Mason-Dixon line fall? It was time for a state-by-state fantasy draft. Well, nightmare draft. We've terraformed the states that have been red and blue to kind of create one land mass. Who sees themselves as conservative part of the red map here? Are these the states you would want?

Oh, I much prefer the red states. What breaks your heart? What are you gonna miss? Well, Arizona. Isn't that supposed to be a red state, though? Yeah, let's say we give you Arizona. Where do you want to travel to? Well, I love California, but it's turned into such a shithole. Let's be fair. As a red state guy, the blue state has the best food. Oh, yeah. Right? Beau, what would you miss?

Not a ton. As a liberal, you're feeling pretty good about the states you get. Honestly, I feel alright. We got Hawaii. You do have Hawaii. James, what are you missing? You're gonna be in this red conglomerate, right? Well, the family's from back east in Ohio, so yeah, I mean, that would be... You'd miss Ohio? I wouldn't trade Cleveland for anything.

I'd trade Texas for California so I can go to San Diego. Okay. Any other trades? Texas for California, blue side, would you allow that trade? I'll take Austin for Cleveland, but I don't need all of Texas. We'll do an Austin for Cleveland? I don't want Cleveland. He's in Cleveland. I want San Diego. What would you give up for San Diego? I would give up...

Florida. No thanks. There's no takers on Florida? No. Okay, so I guess the ocean can have Florida, which is helpful because it will probably take it anyway. And now that we have our newly divided states of America, we get to draft some new constitutions. If there is a new America, you're going to need new laws. Are there any laws you would want to change? Get rid of the petty ones.

I mean, there's lots of petty laws out there. I mean, if you pee in public, I mean, really gonna be in the sex crime registry now because you peed in public? It's stupid. It's a crack in the system. That's the first law that comes to head? It's, you know, it's the petty laws. You get put in the federal sex crimes registry if you take a leak outside. It's just pretty dumb. That's just an example. We just talked about...

a civil war tearing this country in two, you finally get your way. - Well, you know, I mean-- - And the first law that jumps to mind is peeing in public. Does your side not have toilets? With the vision of the new Confederacy already collapsing under the burden of sewage infrastructure, I thought it was time to cut to the chase and ask the biggest question of all. Which side wins? - We all lose. - We all lose, yeah. There's no winning there. - What if one side loses and then refuses to concede?

Well, I don't know if I feel any better about the future of America. But for now, at least we still have elections.

God, it's gonna be loud. It's gonna be loud. Loud inside. It's gonna be crazy. I mean, it's kind of quiet and businesslike outside. Yeah. But it's a party in the back. It's gonna be huge. You would know, my friend. You would know. Tell me about your office. What's going on here? This is kind of just some shorts. Swim trunks. Swim trunks. I gotta say, it's a unique placement of his mouth area. I've loved everything that he has implemented in the past, so I love if we could put that back into office to keep that going. Like what stuff?

Um, I like border control. Yeah? Yeah. That's a big point. Should be working to fix what's happening at the border. Feels like Congress is just sitting on their hands right now doing nothing. Yes. They brought up a bill to do something and Trump said no freaking way. Why was that a good idea? I don't know. Okay, so what did they think of Trump's only remaining human opponent? I think she changed. Yeah. She's changed. Fake Republican. Yeah. Mickey who?

Not familiar with Nikki Haley? Globalist. She belongs to the fascists. She was in the UN, for God's sake. I know. That's the global fascist capital of the world. To be fair, she was appointed by Donald Trump. But she stabbed him in the back as quick as she could. Yes. Loyalty matters. Loyalty matters. Fidelity that matters. Wait, when you say fidelity matters, you're not talking about, like, marital. All fidelity matters. Fidelity matters. Have fun in there inside with Donald Trump.

I don't know if his third wife will be in there with him. I think she might still be mad at him. And Trump's recent court challenges have inspired a brand new demand. Trump has been talking right now about, he says he thinks he should be immune from the actions he takes while president. Absolutely. You think he should have total immunity? Otherwise, everyone's going to jail. You're fine with Trump as king? Yes. Trump as king is good?

Yep. And that's about as American as you can get. Yes, it is. King Trump. Yes. However, Trump isn't asking to be a king. He wants to be a different kind of ruler. He says, you're not going to be a dictator, are you? I said, no, no, no, other than day one. A dictatorship for day one. Yeah. And that's what we need. What does that actually look like? Well, that means that about half the people in the Department of Justice should be arrested and put behind bars. Okay.

That's like a true dictatorship. Yeah. Well, you know, it needs to happen. Donald Trump said he'll be a dictator day one. What do you think of that? Is that a good idea? Let's get it done. Get in and get it done. Let's go. He's not going to be like a...

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But what about all the big dictator talk? Trump said they're poisoning the blood of our country. Trump kind of speaks in allegories. What he's talking about is the blood of the country has been tainted. People have come here and immigrated. It's a different story. And they don't know our American history and our values. Nor do they respect it. So when he says poisoning our country, it sounds harsh, it sounds much nicer in the original German. Yeah.

Yeah, there you go. While many were on board with Dictator 2.0, I did start to see some small cracks in support. Like when I found this woman who spent 60 days in prison for her role on January 6th. You were a Trump supporter? Absolutely, I was a Republican. And I was wrong that day for even being there.

January 6th was an insurrection. Keep your voice down. This is a Trump rally. That's not the most popular take to have right now. And this guy, who confessed he's scared about losing his money after investing in a bunch of weird financial MAGA products like Trump debit cards and a dubious Trump currency. I have supported him with checks.

and the gold, gold Trump bars, hundred dollar gold things. I can't get rid of those. NFT cards, TRB cards. - So how did that work? - They gave me a pin number and everything, go to any ATM. Went to the ATM and couldn't get nothing out.

The card has nothing on it. You think it was a scam? It might have been, I don't know. So you've invested a lot in Donald Trump. Yeah. Everyone is telling me to buy something different. Stop buying. Don't buy any. I'm not. As a guy who's just getting to know you here, stop it, right? I am. But...

I had this one guy, he wants me to put in more money, right? No! I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. Here's the deal, I'm afraid if you go in there again, you're gonna be taken in by a scam again. No. No, yes. No. Yes, yes, yes. No, no, no, no, no. All I'm saying is here, I'm saying there is hope that you can make better choices and not give in to a scam moving forward. Right. Okay? So I think, I think you just walked that way, right through those gates. No, no, my car's over here.

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Donald Trump's criminal hush money trial started yesterday, but a few days before that, he had a message to his followers. 72 hours until all hell breaks loose. That kind of rhetoric is really incendiary and dangerous. So I went down to the New York County Criminal Court to witness the carnage for myself. Donald Trump said all hell is going to break loose. Are you going to go apeshit today? I'm not going to go apeshit today. Are you ready to go apeshit today?

I want to see how it plays out. You're going to slow walk the ape shit. Right. Slow walk it. Trump supporters are calm, peaceful protesters. Yes. They would never rush into a federal building and try to disrupt proceedings. Donald Trump would never advocate for that. Outside of that January 6th thing.

Is today the January 6th of April 15th? No. No. What January? I was there January 6th. Yes. I was there. Where were you? Inside the rotunda? Are you in the office? Were you holding a podium? Where were you? It was breached before we even got there. Is that why you're here early today? Just to make sure you get that first wave? Well, I have done pretty...

Go back and watch America's Most Wanted. I made a grand appearance there when somebody said we got what we deserved. God bless El Cetmaitivo. Do you think the crowd will remain peaceful here? I do. Aren't you letting him down? Not coming with your A-game? Where are your horns? I brought my A-game. You brought a scarf. You brought needle pointers. Handmade, man. You guys picked a QAnon shaman yet? QAnon shaman? Yeah, is there like a voodoo boogaloo somewhere? Let me tell you something. That guy is so articulate and so smart.

You're talking about the guy with the horns? Yes. Right. He could smell shit.

Coming a mile away. Is that why the QAnon shaman is so good at smelling shit? Because he was in the same room where someone was actually defecating inside the Capitol? Probably. While there was more press than there were MAGA supporters, I did run into one January 6th B-list star, Rudy Giuliani's son. Yeah, I was in Washington, D.C. on January 6th as well. I was with President Trump. Sure. I remember him talking about peacefully protesting. Some people were talking about peaceful protests. Some people also on January 6th were talking about trial by combat. Let's have trial by...

Do you know anybody who was talking about that? Oh, you know, look, I would say that peaceful protest is the most important thing. No trial by combat today. Stand up for his First Amendment rights. No trial by combat. Do you guys even care what's going on inside the courtroom or no? Of course I care about what's going on in the courtroom. So let's establish some baseline facts about the trial. Do you think Donald Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels? Oh, hell no. You don't think that happened? No, he was with Melania. Who the hell... He's just always been a one-woman man. Listen, he probably hasn't been, but...

But women have thrown themselves at Trump for the almighty dollar, all those hoes. They had three and a half years to go after Trump for all these stupid trials. Why are they waiting until right now? Is it possible they're waiting until right now because Trump consistently delayed the trials? Yeah, probably. While Trump complains about liberal bias, it seemed the most qualified jurors were outside the courthouse. This is a pro-Trump round. TikTok. TikTok.

- TikTok! - You think you can be an unbiased juror? - Of course I can. - Do you have any feelings or opinions about how Mr. Trump is being treated in this case? - I absolutely do. - You do? - Yes, I do. - What are those feelings? - I have feelings that if you commit a crime,

- Then you should go to trial. - Great. - That's it. - So you support this trial? - No, because it's not a trial. - Oh, well then I'm sorry, there's no room for you on this jury. But apparently it was the venue itself that presented the most bias. - Trump cannot get a fair trial in a 90 plus percent Democrat city like New York City. - Where can Trump get a fair trial?

Um, in the Midwest, in Ohio, in Florida. He's on trial in Florida, he's on trial in Georgia. Will you accept the results of those trials? No. So the MAGA sphere is ready for accountability. Just not anywhere on this planet. Donald Trump has a big month ahead. A debate, an immunity ruling, sentencing, and a convention in the horrible city of Milwaukee. His words, not mine.

So I went to my first rally since he became a convicted felon in the good old battleground state of Wisconsin. And as usual, MAGA was gonna MAGA. Make America great again! I need to make some money! You got a truck you want to show me? Yeah, I do. I wish the world a better place because I was here. Jesus Christ, President Trump. Same font, huh? Yeah. Okay. Cheddar, are you at all worried about that whole worshipping false idols thing? Not at all. What do you think about the upcoming debate?

I've heard that, you know, people say Biden won't show up. Do you think Trump is going to show up? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. He, I think he's going to show up. He's not afraid to debate anybody. Oh, no, no, no, no. I mean, except for Nikki Haley. Of course, there's one thing still on everyone's mind. Trump's recent felony conviction in New York for falsifying business records. People are talking about what happened with Donald Trump's conviction recently. F*** that. Totally. Bullshit.

All 34 of them. It's a f***ing mess. Get rid of it. Why is it a f***ing mess? It's a f***ing mess because he didn't do anything wrong. Who's he cheating? I mean, other than his wife. I'm not getting into that. It's unjustable. It's not fair. Scam. It only takes one crime to send you to jail or prison. Isn't that the truth? Oh, suddenly America's the land where you commit a crime and you go to prison? Are you f***ing kidding me? That was a kangaroo trial.

This is absolute Stalinism. So do you have faith in the Department of Justice? No. Now there's the Hunter Biden trial. What did you think? Hunter Biden was found guilty. Yes. What do you think of that? Well, the evidence was overwhelming. You take the evidence, you put it through the justice system, and he's found guilty? We should accept that? Yes. Wait a minute, hold on. But I thought the justice system was rigged. We shouldn't trust it. It wasn't taking place in a...

and a community that voted. - But the judge was a Trump-appointed judge. - Was he? - Yeah. What do you think of the whole Hunter Biden situation? Are you relieved? Hunter Biden is found guilty. - Yeah, but they're not gonna do anything to . Why not? You can sit around, dump a pistol in the garbage, smoke crack. You get away with all that shit. - But it sounds like he was convicted. - Yeah. - So is that the justice system working?

I don't know. Justice system won't work until I'm put away. Which are we talking about? Trump. Trump, 100%. When Trump is put away, the justice system won't work. No, no, no, no, come on! Sorry, I'm trying to keep straight. Jesus Christ, dude. Which part of the justice system do we totally implicitly trust and which one is a total sham? It's hard to keep them straight. But did this conviction dole out justice or just create a martyr? There's a classic cartoon that shows other convicted felons. There's Gandhi.

There's Nelson Mandela, and then there's Trump. Do you put Trump in line with Gandhi and Nelson Mandela? Yeah. Between Gandhi, Mandela, and Trump, which was the one who had sex with a porn star and then paid to cover that up? Well, none of the above, but one of the above.

And one of them recently made bank off his brush with the law. Spoiler alert: it wasn't Gandhi. So the conviction helped Donald Trump? Well, everyone's pouring in money to support him, so... and I know I've done that a couple times. Trump goes to trial for sexual assault. How much are you given? What is that? Is that a... Oh, probably $1,000. $1,000 for that? Okay, classified docs, how much are you given? Another $1,000. Okay, so $1,000 across the board? Yes. Okay, overthrow democracy? That biggie? Is that... is that two grand?

That's probably five grand. Wow, okay. Basically we just need to save our country from the border surge. Right, right, right. We don't need to be shelling out money to give immigrants who don't deserve it. You're sick and tired of your money going to people who committed crimes. That's right. Yeah. Did you donate? Yes. What about for the sexual assault case? Did you give for that? Oh, this is all just so old news, you know? It doesn't affect me. It's old news.

-Sexual assault, sexual assault. Let's move on with the future. -Yeah. -Yeah.

That's a laugh. But what is slightly less hilarious is Trump's second term plan, which sounds a lot like going after everyone who went after him. Based on what they've done, I would have every right to go after them. I am your retribution. Donald Trump is put into office. Should he go after his political opponents? Absolutely.

Rocked our world. up like he theirs up. Donald Trump, if he gets into office again, should he show any mercy to political opponents? I don't think so. He should go after them. How important is vengeance to you when Trump gets into office? It's probably third on the list. Okay, good. So I'm guessing that's between martial law and right before fixing toilet pressure. But there's a simple reason it's so easy for them to give him a pass.

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The last three weeks have been some of the most eventful in American political history. So I went to Harrisburg, PA to see how the MAGA world is reflecting on these serious times. First, I want to know how they're coping with the loss of their favorite punching bag. I've seen you many, many times here. What number rally are we at? 82. Are you sad about the Joe Biden chant being retired?

I'm sad because of all I've invested in all this anti-Biden gear. How much Let's Go Branded anti-Joe Biden merch did you have? Oh, thousands of dollars. Is that right? Wow. I buy it at the Let's Go Branded store in Tom's River, New Jersey. Do they have to rename that? I think they're going to have to rename it. How about one more for old time's sake?

Joe and the hoe. And now the name calling of Vice President Harris begins. If they could only decide how to mispronounce that name. I'm surprised Kamala even has a chance. No one likes Kamala. They wanted Kamala in. And that's why I don't like to hear about the Kamala thing. Why do you say her name like that? How do you say it? Kamala. No, it's Kamala. Kamala. Kamala. Kamala. Kamala. Kamala. Kamala.

There you go. I appreciate that you're trying to say the name correctly. Yes. I actually am not, but I inadvertently, you know. How would you want to say it? Can't.

Kamala? It's the way Bush used to say Saddam Hussein. Saddam. Is this you workshopping elevating Kamala to Saddam Hussein levels? Kamala Harris is a bigger threat. More anti-American than Saddam Hussein? Oh, yes. The most anti-American candidate for president we've ever had. I gotta tell you, if I ran into you three weeks ago, you might have said that about Joe Biden. That's right, yeah. Do you think Kamala is qualified to be president?

Somebody that cackles all the time and laughs at everything under the sun? Are you kidding me? A woman experiencing joy, not your thing? She's useless. She's backpedaling on all her previous comments. Is that your issue with her? Yeah, yeah. Yes. What do you like about J.D. Vance? He's a man of the people. You think he'll stand up for Trump? Yeah. Vance will stand up to the people who compare Donald Trump to Hitler. Yeah. What happens if those people are also J.D. Vance?

He has acquainted Donald Trump to Hitler, America's Hitler. - Yeah, years ago. - He flip flopped, people can change. - Yeah.

But I still am like Harris. Apparently, writing a book about your opioid-addicted family makes you more qualified than any black woman could ever be. I heard she got up the ladder on her back. Right, but millions of people voted for Kamala Harris. Did she sleep with all of them? No. How do you sleep? You were at the top of elected positions.

I don't know how she got to where she is, except if the word is DEI, you know? What do you think of J.D. Vance? I think he picked him for votes in the Rust Belt. Oh, so Trump wanted...

Diversity on the ticket. Diversity on his ticket, yeah. Sure. Over the years, the MAGA crowd has faced a lot of criticism, but none more stinging than the line of attack started by Kamala's new VP candidate, Tim Walz. These guys are just weird. These are weird people on the other side. Democrats are trying to call the MAGA movement weird. What do you think of that?

It's, I mean, it's... I don't know what's weird about it. Is it fair though to call the MAGA movement inherently an "un-serious" movement? I mean, I don't think so. Do you think the discourse has gotten too... too ridiculous? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just think sometimes from an outside perspective it feels like you come to a MAGA event and there isn't the seriousness. It's not about people trying to fix America, it feels like a carnival. Yeah. Is that a fair critique?

The rally was just three weeks after a truly tragic day in US politics. The official story was that the assassination attempt was committed by a disturbed young man who was a registered Republican.

But this crowd isn't always into official stories. I think people on both sides can agree that was a horrific moment in our history. It was. Looking back at it, do you believe the things you hear? No, I don't. I believe it's an inside job. The shooting was an inside job? A lot of things aren't adding up. It's very strange. I think that was a planned job. Anybody with any common sense knows that was a planned job. Planned by who? The Dems.

The left's a deep state. Obama is involved in this. You think Obama set up the assassination attempt? I think he surely knew about it. Oh, it's the government, for sure. It's the government? I think so. You think they would go through all of this? I mean, wouldn't... They really wanted to take out Trump. Wouldn't they just poison the Big Mac? I don't know. It's the dance, the FBI, the social...

Special Service. Does it surprise you to hear that it was a disgruntled white guy, Republican, gun nut? No, because you know what? We'll never know why he was picked. It's kind of the perfect cover. Exactly. They could have gotten a disgruntled black guy, and I'm not... No problem. And they could have gotten a disgruntled black female.

But no, they picked the disgruntled white kid. The disgruntled white guy who's into guns at a Trump rally. It's like a Where's Waldo situation. Yes, yes. It's like, oh my God, who doesn't fit that profile there? Exactly. Right? And just about the security and everything, there's like something wasn't right there from the beginning. I don't know what gets me. It's like this kid was able to get an AR-15 that easily? What the hell? Yeah. Yeah.

- Doesn't add up. In that it adds up so cleanly it feels too easy. - Exactly. And there's no paper, they can only go so far and it's like a dead end. - It's a situation where like you want to connect the two dots, but it's just much easier to go all the way around. - Exactly. - Exactly. - Exactly.

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