Local Hour: THE PANTHERS ARE BACK-TO-BACK CHAMPIONS
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Do we have any good video of Calle Ocho, Pots and Pans, Championship, Miami Celebration? Is there any good streets filled with all sorts of Hispanics, Billy, the way it was when the Marlins won the championship? Do we have hockey fever now that we, in South Florida, the marshland, we have brought the cup back and protected the cup and it is now, we are swamp kings of the sport again, ridiculously.

How crazy are the streets out there? What's happening in the streets of Miami, Billy? Traffic was pretty light this morning. I think maybe people were out late yesterday. That's Bird Road there. Yeah, that's La Carreta. That's Bird Road. The guy with the pot on his head. I know that guy. People were out celebrating. Okay, look at that. Look at Hockey Town. Look at that. Look at South Florida. You said, Canada, that we wouldn't get excited about this. Look at the 12 people outside La Carreta. Yeah.

That's the one on Bird Road, by the way. Yeah, it's a Bird Road one. Dozens of us. That'd be a great place for reality to talk to people about name the Panthers goalie. You're mocking this. That looks genuine to me. When we see Edmonton, there's three people outside saying, that looks genuine to me. It just looks different. I know you want this to be what you've imagined in your head, that we've just awakened and we found something happened. I'm reading in the newspaper today. We won a championship. It's not that. There's people there.

Okay, thank you. I looked at Roy's face today. I saw a man who was out for 12 hours straight celebrating. Yep, that's right. Got home at 3.30, went to sleep at 4, woke up two hours later. Zaslow is hungover. Oh, I mean...

I don't remember a whole lot. I am. All right. So you're doing the show drunk. This is the drunk. No, I'm not drunk. I'm hung over. There's a difference. Yeah. But if you went for, you know, three hours till three hours before the show, you might not yet be in the hangover. I was drunk yesterday. That's hung over. Today is hung over. I actually didn't party a lot last night planning for elbow room today. What am I doing here right now?

Well, I want to understand reality. Can you help me? And I'm sorry to Tony Collado, who yesterday I described him as the better Tony. I saw that on the title, and I was like, that's probably Dan doing something foolish. It's okay. I was foolish. I know the game plan. The thing is, I know you. I know you so well. I know what the game plan is today. Pit one Tony against the other. No, no. Make them try and not like each other. Try to get Tony riled up.

Tony C. trying to get around him. I needed you two days ago when I went on the court with a Juco player and got dunked on ten straight times in a row. And that was fine until the only time the cameras were on were me taking three-pointers and I was just bricking them all over the place. Yes, that was not a great moment for you. But positivity came into town, and I will always remember that the weak reality came into town. The Panthers went back-to-back. Wow.

And now a legitimate dynastic conversation starts because they're better than everyone. And I see the sportsbooks want to make Carolina a favorite or want to make Colorado a favorite next year. But idiots. Well, because they fear that, you know, Bennett's probably going to get a ton of money. It's all I heard during the playoffs. It's all I heard every time he scored. Just cash registers.

So the team's not going to be exactly the same. But Tony, I heard some Wild Willie Wednesday in there because you were just egging on this Tony versus Tony rivalry when I have no intention of doing that. It's getting into the costume contest. We all know how this one plays out. We know exactly what's going on. But I didn't know I was supposed to be wearing... I still have the...

The ticket on my shirt. What do you mean? I don't know. Me? Yeah. Is that brand new? What's happening here? He's a lifelong fan. Yeah, I'm a lifelong fan. What are you talking about? Look at this shirt that obviously fits me perfectly well. Yeah, that is Lewis' shirt, clearly. It's still got the tags on it so you can return it after wearing it. What? It looks like an abuela purchase right there. You're going to do the whole show holding your pots and pans because it's like the monkey that does this thing. Well, thank you, Riali. I appreciate it. Thank you.

The Pots and Pans celebration. I know you make fun of me for saying things are uniquely Miami. In the United States, are there other places where championships are celebrated by people running into the streets with pots and pans? Yes or no? No. No.

That's uniquely Miami? Uniquely South Florida. Because I came in here, and here is what white-gloved service we have around here with your breakfast and lunch every day. I asked for pots and pans, and our show has been so complicated.

culturally appropriated by whatever American excess is, no one could find me a pot or a pan. So what I have in my hands is some sort of thing you wouldn't cook in. We're at a hotel, so it makes sense. No, but you guys eat twice a day, every day, and I see people cooking there as well, and they use their pots and pans. I thought we had pots and pans.

We don't have pots and pans. We have cereal. We don't have pots and pans. There's nothing to cook with. There's a hot plate. The show has been Americanized when it doesn't have pots and pans to celebrate. We have La Weta. Come on. That's not totally true. I want to put in historical context here in a moment what the Panthers have just done with some people who have been covering the Panthers for a long time in Zazz and Roy.

But before I do that, I need to address some in-house conflict that we have. No, it's bad, Tony. It's bad. I want you to settle what needs to happen here.

Chris and Roy both want to go to the elbow room. That's where the trophy is. That's where the party is. That's the fun place to be. Roy's been flying back and forth three flights to Edmonton and showed up Monday morning, 6.30 in the morning, off his flight to do the show. We couldn't find Cody. How happy is he not to fly to Edmonton today? Yes, very. You heard him shouting it. Yes. What is that flight? How many flights is it? Well, it was three flights going to, three flights coming back. So that's six. And that is...

I would say 16 hours both ways. Look at the patch on the jersey. He's already got the new patch. That's right. That's commitment. I bought this in game four, by the way. Roy is a champion. He's been working hard and the hockey show hats are selling that he's wearing on levitardaf.com and the hockey show sometimes on Friday is doing very well. Tell us about the flights again, please. I know we did this last year. It's from where to where to where to where. All right. So this year, the flight two was from Miami to Atlanta to Toronto to Edmonton and coming back

From Edmonton to Vancouver to Salt Lake City. It's horrible. Vancouver to Salt Lake City. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What? Yeah. What is that flight?

Not good. That's what that flight is. Well, how long? Okay, so that's what you came. So 6.30 in the morning Monday, Roy comes in, and you hugged him. I went in for a big hug because I haven't seen Roy in five years face-to-face. He was not in the mood. And he wasn't in the mood. And I sensed it, and I knew. I had walked in those shoes to some extent, and I knew where he had been. And that's a tough one. Yeah.

The fact that he's here today with the jersey, with the patch, I don't know what code he's going to put out there to get in the elbow room. Well, but they both want to go. I know they want to go, but that's commitment right there. Roy, can you tell me the nature of the disagreement, okay? I want to quit setting it up in a way that puts Chris in such an unflattering position. To be honest...

Chris looks like the elbow room, okay? Which was part of my argument. The reason the Panthers are going to party, they're Fort Lauderdale's team and they love that place. And it's concrete cocaine jungle from 40, 50 years ago. There's nothing there. It's coke, concrete, and the trophy.

It's a good place. And it's going into the ocean. Good place. And they love that place. And Zach Thomas one time in that place with Trace Armstrong swam out to a buoy because he was drunk and got to the buoy and it was slippery and he didn't realize it. And then the people had to save him for...

Save him from drowning because bad things happen at the elbow room. But today, the trophy's going to be there, I would imagine, right? They're promising that the trophy's going to be there? Yeah, it was already there. Already there. So, oh, so you guys got to get out of here then. So we got to make this decision now. It's gone already.

Oh, they're not there anymore? They may go back. The party is still there, but Barkoff showed up before sunrise with the trophy. It could still be there, but there was an early before dawn sighting of the Cup there. But there's still a party going on. All right. So to set up what's presently happening in South Florida, okay? The parade starts now. You guys made fun of us last year because it was raining torrentially and the parade was ruined. But this team does have it. Oh, it wasn't ruined. No, sir. It was the greatest. Well.

Nationally, the perception of that parade is South Florida is being South Florida again because, guys, you've seen what Canada's like around there. You see how Toronto's heart is broken. You see how Edmonton's heart is broken. I haven't seen them celebrate. They care deeply about this trophy that is said to be the hardest thing to win in sports. And what's weird about it is Hollywood Beach over there is filled with Canadian tourists. You will find them still with sandals and socks. They come from Canada for Hollywood Beach.

Fort Lauderdale, this little patch of land has been conquered by these champions. And the elbow room is where they go to celebrate Edmonton's burial. And it's all night and it's all week and it's all around the elbow room. And it's till the parade. The trophy stays here and these players will march it around our sands and beaches before they take it back.

back to Finland or their country where they can worship it there. But this little plot of land over here on Elbow Room, both of you want to go. Roy, how do we settle this argument? Because what's the nature of the disagreement between you and Chris? Well, I think Roy is like, let's just both go. And I think Carl and I have had the thought of, we want to have in this room today a good, put this in perspective, back-to-back championships, and then let's go out to the chaos. I thought that that would be better than,

Roy, Zazz, Panther, covering it forever, talk serious hockey. Let's go out to Chris getting with the party. Rather than... You just want to go get drunk is what you just told us. Do you think that... What's actual better content for the show? Me and Zazz having a serious Panthers conversation and then going out to Roy for the chaos at the elbow room? No one having a serious Panthers conversation is best for the show. How dare you? I'm just saying. It's easier to cover for you if you want. I thought that...

I want to hear from Roy today. This is not honestly, I know it just looks like you can ask him and you spoke. I have asked for zero. I really don't do this where I'm like, I want to go to do this. And I, this is an assignment made for me.

like celebrating with our fans at the Elba room. Dan, I'm out here with the fans. Like I can just see it. And I just think I would crush it and that's it. And we can go together. It's not that I don't want Roy there. I just think if I'm not here, then it's just like, who's going to talk Zaz. I mean, Zaz wants to talk some cats.

I want to talk some cats. And I want to hear from Roy today. So in my mind, the perfect show was Zazz and Roy putting this in perspective. Now let's go out to Chris. Well, you're taking people behind the curtain on what it is to be the EP. Tony, can you make a ruling here? Before... I can't. I...

Billy, this is the other thing that's in play, though, Chris. You had you had a couple of chances there to go wild Billy Wednesday there because he betrayed you in the back, saying that you told us before the show that you just want to go to get drunk. Well, I mean, would I partake in a beverage or two if I was there?

Probably. But that's not like I really want. I want to check in with the show and I want the chaos around me. You want me to go? You know, Billy, let's instead of them. I was sick, though. Well, so there's the energy. You're sick. I didn't I didn't watch the game last night. I was throwing up the whole night. That's but they could fill me in on what happened. I had a migraine. It was a whole thing. I woke up this morning. What happened last night? No, I knew there might be a thing with the elbow room today. So I came in even though I threw up earlier and I was like, I got to be a team player for my guys here.

But if you need me to go on assignment, figure out what's going on. This is not the day for Wild Willie Wednesday, I'm going to tell you. But I'm just curious here. I was thinking about this on the way in, Roy. Just hypothetically, if we had gotten just a slightly different schedule and the Panthers had won the championship tonight and tomorrow is Juneteenth, how are you feeling about me making you work on Juneteenth? Or would you even want to come in to work on Juneteenth, given that the hockey...

That the Panthers had won the... What are you trying to do here? I don't want to be here now, let alone Juneteenth. What are you trying to do, Ted? I'm actually saying that we got saved by the schedule. We were going to not have a show because of a national holiday.

on Thursday after winning the championship. I'm aware of what you're doing here. What we have is a championship. We have it. The city of champions is celebrating. Let's revel in that for a second. Let's find a way to get everybody in the show to the elbow room. What, what, what,

What boundaries do you have? That's a great idea. What boundaries do you have in life? Well, because we have the show. We can just do it live from there. Well, that would have been planned well if we had producers who were planning things, but that's not what you guys were drinking last night. I'm dry. I wasn't dry. I'd love to go to Elbow Room. I got a lot of confidence today. I don't know if you've noticed. Send Zazz. Well, Zazz, you should have confidence because, I mean, it's...

The team is now already, right now, as we speak, by virtue of what they did last night, that team is now historic. Like, just stop there. They'll have a dynasty conversation, fine. There'll be a chance for that. But you win back-to-back in that sport, you do the hardest thing back-to-back in that sport, you're better than everyone, and you're tougher than everyone.

on on the road at home and no one in the sport would dispute even though they didn't want mcdavid stopped here they didn't want this team to have the trophy no one would dispute earned best team in the league no argument everyone will shut up now Toronto will say well we were close and it's impossible to imagine

They were down 2-0, and then they needed a game three overtime. It's impossible to see from there, but you've seen the best team again proved it deserved to be champions in a season where everyone was coming for them. No one was surprised by them. Everyone was vanquished by them. The thing that maybe was most surprising to me about this run is they got better.

as the postseason went on for a team that's in three straight Stanley Cup finals. Like, I was concerned after game one when they lost in overtime because they looked tired in that third period. They looked tired in overtime. Like, man, is this the end? Like, are they just out of gas? And they got better as not just the entire postseason went on, but certainly as this series went on. Uh,

They played over 300 games last three years. Oh, a buzzsaw, though, in these playoffs. I don't want to say it was easy, but it was easier against McDavid this time than it was last time where, yeah, Edmonton got a couple of games. Needed overtime for both of them. They played all the styles.

and Florida was better than Edmonton, and McDavid would bow his head now, and we would have right the analysis of, oh, this team with its depth just grinds you down, and at the end of a series, you don't have anything left because you've got that one line or maybe that two lines, and they've got four lines, and it's just going to keep going all game. But I want to talk about...

The idea that when we remember what this team is doing and look back at it as an all-time great in the history of South Florida, what is great about the story and already makes it dynastic to me is it begins with an eight seed clearly behind Tampa and Boston. And no, they couldn't get past those teams through this hard route.

Kachuk gets traded after a blueprint changer. They had the best offense in the sport, Uberdo. They blew out the whole thing. They traded for Kachuk. And what started was this story. Eight seed, somehow, tough and gritty, makes the community love it because it gets to the final. How the hell did that happen? Best Panther team we've ever seen down here. 30 years of Radek Dvorak.

Like 30 years of just never win a playoff game. Is that the funniest name to reference in that spot? What is the funniest name? Ole Jokinen. That is a good one. We could play this game. J-Bone Meester. Radek Dvorak is just. Okay, but so it goes from there, right? So they fall in love. South Florida falls in love and hopes the way Knicks fans have the last couple of years. Oh, so close.

They changed the blueprint. They're brave. They've got a good organization. They've never had that. Never had that. You hear how all the players raving last night about the ownership? This town has never had even average hockey ownership. It has just been scammers trying to sell ice in the Everglades. It has been garbage, like bad businessman after bad businessman.

They clean it up. 8-seed makes a community fall in love. Hope like Knicks fans hope. And then what happens the next year? Oh, my God.

Seven games, 3-0, down 0, go 3-3. This makes kids fall in love forever when you win this way. And then this year, they're better than everyone, and they break up New York, and they break up Tampa, and they break up Boston. Probably breaking up Toronto. Toronto. Carolina might not break up, but everyone will laugh at them because they're going to get broken again by whatever remains of this team, even if they're made favorites, which some sportsbooks have. Carolina's the favorite.

This story is going to be an echoing all-timer in this market because of the last three years, the last two of which result in back-to-back where everyone in that hallowed sport genuflects on it. When you do it back-to-back, we'll remember you forever. It's better and bigger, doubling the size of what you did the first time when you gave us the best hockey series any of us had ever seen. It's the coolest.

And it was such a different experience than last year. I don't know if it's because it's the back-to-back one, but it was just because we had the whole third period to know we were winning. Last year, I was just jumping, being a maniac when we won. This year, with five minutes, I was just sitting back, looking around, just taking it in.

It was similar to the Heat. Like the Heat, when they won against the Thunder, the entire game was a celebration. It was a party because we blew them out the entire game. And then the next year, Game 6, Ray Allen, Game 7 was tight. And we got to experience both. Like being on the edge of our seat and a party. And this year, it was the opposite with the Panthers. We were on the edge of our seat last year. And last night was a party. With seven minutes left. Their coach decided, all right.

This goalie thing ain't working. Let's try it without. Well, it wasn't working. It's why they changed goalies after game four. I was like, all right, let's hear him out. Let's see how this works. 20 seconds later, we put it in empty netter. I'm just like, okay, I don't think this worked how we wanted.

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Warning, this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Don Levitard. That was a long story. Yeah. It's the only kind he tells. It's a short one for me. I tried to speed it up for you guys. You forgot about the League's Cup. Stugatz. Yeah. La Careta is a place where the best of the celebrations has to be the 97 Marlins celebration because it was Levante. Well, when Fidel died the first time. This is the Don Levitard Show with the Stugatz. Stugatz.

Let me ask you, were any of you thinking that I would have to pay tuition? $100. It's all I was thinking of. $5,000? If you told me $5,000, just so you know, backstory. This was, I walked myself into something, right? I'm searching as you put me on a Mission Impossible. I found...

A heaving mass of Panthers fans. Oh, you could say. I mean, they knew they were playing the oil. They knew 9-0 was a possible result. They knew Mellenby. So I asked a brilliant college student what the final score would be. And he says to me, Tone, T-Bone, Ice-T, 9-0 Pants. He looks me right in the eye and said, if it's 9-0 Panthers, Dan Levitard is going to full-ride scholarship, pay your tuition for college.

I agreed to terms immediately. Absolutely. I just knew in his heart this would be something he would want to do because the emotion, the passion for everything that is the Pantolones were just pouring out of this group. Pantolones? And then it was 5-0 with an empty net. That was seven minutes. I'm like, oh my God, we're going to have to find that kid. It's going to be a scandal. I'm rooting for Edmonton. I've never been a bigger McDavid fan.

It was sweaty. Because you can get two, three empty netters in no time. I like it. It's like a Scott's Tots situation that Dan was running into. Would you have paid for a 10-1 final?

No. Nine-gold differential. No. Billy, I understand that you are here for Wild Willie Wednesday. I'm here to be a good teammate to my guys. Chris, you guys didn't notice. Chris, I don't want you to get so hungover and self-involved today that you forget to do all parts of your job, okay? What I am telling you is that from behind you, Billy is hell-bent on anarchy because he doesn't want the two of you to leave. Guess who becomes EP? Oh.

I think you don't want the two of them to leave. And that's what Wild Willie Wednesday is. And so, both of you should now leave. Alright, see you later. Wild, no, both of you get out of here. Go to the elbow room. There we go. A ruling has been made. A ruling has been made. You want it

to be Wild Willie Wednesday, so it shall be. But you noticed in the background, he was offering to go to the elbow room. Look how quick Roy got up. Hasn't watched the game. Oh, he's out. Hasn't watched the game. He's out. I'm not biased. Billy there would be funny. Okay, he can go too. You want to put Zazz in that EP chair? Jeremy, let's go. I'll go. I did it last year. Look, if you want to take him and you guys want to go and Wild Willie Wednesday wants to go to the elbow room, have at it.

I will do the show here. How long is the drive? I've never been. It's a long drive. It seems like a dump. This is what's going to be the deciding factor. How long is the drive? It's an hour. It's an hour. Each way? It's going to be an hour there if you don't get traffic. Who's on the show today? If you don't get traffic, it's 45 minutes. If there's an accident. If you don't get traffic. If there's an accident, it's two and a half hours. It can take an hour and a half, yes. They might just be in traffic for the next two hours. Join us for the post game.

Dan, I think we should remix this. I think me and Tony should go over to the open. Oh, Tony and Tony. Drinking contest. Back to back. Have fun. Whoever steals the cup becomes Tony. I will tell you guys right now that if you can figure out how it is to get this.

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They want to tune in and see Miami suffer in tears. Why do you say that? You wanted a game seven before this week even started. You were rooting for defeat yesterday. I believe that more people would be watching and listening to this show today if the Panthers had lost than if they win. Do you think I have that wrong?

Uh, no. I think you might have it wrong. Yeah, I think you have it wrong. But more people will be listening Friday when there'd be a game seven, you know, than if the Panthers won last night. But today I think it's the same. You guys don't believe. I'm not. I know every city always does the us against the world narrative, but.

This was, this was, I mean, well, you had McDavid, the best player in the world and hockey, the better story, indisputably is McDavid getting revenge, knocking off Florida, getting Florida out of the way. Florida is not as interesting to the world as McDavid would be as a rising star winning a championship. They've already won. We've done that story. Give me a new story. But this is also still a story though, right? Because now this is still an NHL story going into next year. McDavid. McDavid.

Still no title. Like, we did this for years with LeBron, you know? Well, this is the story for the NHL now. Is McDavid, when, if ever, is he going to win? Because he just had two chances, and the second time it went six, he really wasn't that close.

Our audience is probably happy today, here to cheer on the Panthers, because I think there's a difference in the way that our audience perceives this team and this franchise than the Heat, because we understandably, since the Big Three era, basically shoved the Heat down the audience's throat and the obnoxiousness that came with a team that was genuinely hated nationally.

This franchise, everyone for the last three years got to, with us, experience a run as an eight seed that was far less obnoxious than how we handled the Heat's run as an eight seed. I'm looking at myself in the mirror. And then two champions. We were all looking at you too, though. It wasn't just you looking at yourself in the mirror. We were all staring at you as well. I was trying to just say, hey, hand up, my bad.

You know, it was encouraged. But I would say that this team in particular, I think our audience cares about. I get way more tweets. They're excited to care about this. I get way more tweets of you guys have turned me into a Panthers fan. Yes. And and you guys, not surprisingly, wildly self-involved. So, yes, our audience. One thing.

outside of... Is that what you asked? Don't, Jeremy. No. Our audience is here either way. Our audience is always here. The people that would make it a larger audience are the people who are here to hear the arrogant Miami fan weep into their pillow scared because now there's a game seven. Okay, that's true. Yeah, okay, I take it back. You're right. Yes, when you put it that way, you are right. But that's... I thought it was obvious to me that the way to get the most... If what you're doing is just for clicks,

If what you're doing is just to amass... Look, there are so many people in sports media right now doing stuff just to amass audience. Speak their name. Steven A. Attaboy. Whoa. Pablo. That would have been a better one. Speak their name. How dare you talk to me that way? You are more confident today. What is it about you? It's feeling good.

Two-time champ. Four-time champ, really, if you include his broadcasting championships. Billy, I want to get to how bad you felt last night, but I've kept him waiting long enough and he's pissed off now. We have not celebrated enough. Last year at this time, during a lonely parade, Greg Cody was out front. Get me that video, please, of last year.

of Greg Cody, who was working at this time last year, giving us a very lonely parade last year to celebrate the championship. Now he joins us on remote here. And I got to say, Chris, your dad must be feeling pretty good about himself because another year goes by. He's right. And McDavid at the end. And McDavid at the end. Your timing's off because you're hungover. Uh,

The McDavid conversation, Greg Cody, you're feeling how right now? I would say vindicated, but I didn't need the vindication. McDavid did, and he failed to get it. I feel really good. I've come down with a terrible cold, and I found out last night that standing on a 200-foot sheet of ice for an hour and a half does not make a budding cold get better. It exacerbates it. But I'm here for you guys, and who'd have believed that,

that even though I was right about McOverrated last year, I would be even more right right now because McDavid, I'm going to be the one to say it, I guess, he disappeared in this final. He scored one goal, had five assists. McJesus was not walking on ice water, and he is officially and certifiably continuing to be overrated, McOverrated, until he proves otherwise, and the Panthers didn't let him do it. Period. Paragraph.

Whoa, he went the extra step. Oh my God. Once he says period, he got my attention. But when you go paragraph, that is as hot as I've ever heard him. Do you have any words for white hat?

Oh, you know, he's beneath my level of caring at this point because he's wrong. So is my former friend Brad Williams, by the way, the renowned comedian who went on with White Hat and took White Hat's side while at the same time admitting that McDavid needed to win a Stanley Cup to certify himself as an all-time great. A lot of people are doing that.

He agreed with me, but yet he didn't, which is what everybody's doing now. Hockey fans are a cult. They're a cult, and as a cult, they are afraid to go against McJesus. They are brainwashed and...

into having to say that, oh, he's the best player in the game. You see how fast he is? Nobody's ever been like him. Well, you know what? It's been 10 years now. Levitard, earlier, I think you referred to him as a rising star. He should have risen by now. He's not a rising star. And guess what? Edmonton had its window, had its two-year window, and it's not going to stay open now. He's never going to win a cup. It has to be unbelievable. Whoa, Zaz, hold on. Zaz. Zaz.

Your confidence today is overwhelming and I don't know what to do with it. You have to lay out there. That was a bar. That's Greg Cody as vindicated and arrogant and ego soaked as I've ever heard him. Billy, you seem delighted. Look at him. He's snarling right now. This is as right as Greg Cody has ever felt. Now I would argue.

He's exhausted. Four lines hitting him in the face. He can only play half the game. Like, they spent him, and so there was nothing left of him at the end. But it's because the Panthers are really good. It is not because McDavid's a choker, Greg. No, no. I've never called him a choker. But he has had the inability to raise his team around him. And keep in mind, Dreisaitl, Leon Notitle,

He's supposed to be the second best player in this series, okay? He was better than McDavid on his own team. McDavid has just not had the ability to lift his team, and he was surrounded by a team that could not lift him.

And they look spent in last night's game. They came out really strong. Bob made a couple of good saves early. And after that, they were totally out of this game. It was one of the most lopsided games of the playoffs. I thought it was going to end with 9-0 and tuition. You said disappeared, though. What's the difference between disappeared and choking?

The difference is that the Selkie winner, Alexander Barkov, made him disappear. The best defensive forward in the game was on him as much as possible when you're playing a minute and change per shift. And the Panthers' defense and the depth of their team and the depth of their ability to defend all over the ice...

won this series and made him disappear. I don't think McDavid lost this series, but he also failed to win it. And his idolaters keep waiting for McJesus to appear in a robe, skating in a robe, and finally become a champion. Had a chance to do it last year, had another chance the past couple of weeks, and just didn't do it.

Okay? I'm not saying he's choking, but I am saying he's failing to rise to the moment that history seems to have designated for him.

Greg, do you almost feel bad for him? I feel bad for him as someone who's a big Panthers fan. I feel bad for him because I feel like he's getting all this pressure from the outside. And the reality is he's not the one going out there saying, I'm McJesus. I'm the next Wayne Gretzky. I'm the greatest hockey player ever. It's everybody else wanting to be right about him. And the reality is he's just not that good. And there's this expectation that he's going to be the greatest thing in the world and...

he's proven that he's not. So I kind of feel bad for him because people were kind of putting this on him and crowning him unjustly. And it makes things harder for him. And I'm looking now here at his contract situation. I see next year seems to be his last year in Edmonton. And then he's a free agent. It seems like this might be a basketball thing where may need to come down to town, pull all Marshan, come down here to the Panther land and team up with some winners, learn the winning way, you know?

Wow. I like that rumor you've just started. McDavid to the Panthers. I like that. Billy, we disagree. I don't think he's not that good. Yeah, same. I'm not going to go that far. He's a fast skater. He's got some attributes. Oh, he does. And he has the ability. But some holes as well, Greg. We would agree. Like a few games ago when he slalom through Barkoff and Eklund. Yeah. Apollo Antonono. Yeah.

But he's got, he's got... But Greg, we can agree, there's some holes in his game, yes?

And there's holes in everybody's. Yeah, nobody's perfect. I will say McDavid is overrated. And to Billy's point, Billy's always on the mark with stuff like on to Billy's point. McDavid's not out there saying I'm the greatest ever. Wayne, who it's others who are putting that on him. But they say to him in press conferences and he doesn't push back. He's kind of like, yeah, that's a good question. OK, but so live up to it.

McOverrated, live up to it. That's all I've been saying for the past couple of years. My bandwagon still has plenty of room, by the way. I'm not feeling a lot of love for my he's McOverrated opinion. Maybe now people are going to come on board. I don't know. You going to go on with White Hat today? I already want you on.

There's a possibility. Don't dignify him with your presence. You're not going on his show, are you? Well, you know, I asked a council of mine, someone whose opinion I respect, whether I should do it or not. And I was told I should do it. So maybe I will. Wait a minute. Hold on a second. I'm with Billy on this.

You defeated White Hat. White Hat should not get the clicks of Cody goes on his grounds to gloat because Cody gets to be right and he wants desperately the stage of being right. Make him come on your turf. He called you a senile old man. That disrespect's still there. Whether he apologizes...

He was on my show last week, so I gave him the courtesy of allowing to explain how senile I am. He came on. I gutted him like a fish, and now he wants me on his podcast, and I'm thinking of reciprocity. I'm thinking of doing the nice thing. An old home-and-home. He's a senile old man.

Do you mean an old home in an old home? Was that on purpose? Because he's using you, White Hat's using you to get in the game. He was beneath you and now he's not anymore. And you're right. And at the end, he called you a senile old man for your take that is right. He's a senile old man.

Yeah, well, that's true. But he did sort of cower and apologize on my podcast last week. Go check it out if you haven't heard it yet. But, you know, he's just a kid. He's a green kid, you know, wet behind the ears, whatever all those sayings for green, inexperienced kids are who shouldn't be calling accomplished journalists senile old man. But I put him in his place, and now I'm thinking of deigning to be on his podcast today. We'll see how that works out.

I'm going to just blow through the clocks here today and just stay on live for four hours to celebrate whatever it is that we're celebrating down here because we've got everybody's in today. We've got a big personality in reality. He has dominated the week and he gets all the credit forevermore in South Florida for bringing positivity down here, immediately resulting in a back-to-back championship. He brings Zaz greatly hungover but more confident than I've ever seen him. I got it going on today.

I mean, he does. You guys have had you. What are you laughing at, Greg? Yeah, what are you laughing at, Chuckles? What does that mean? I got it going on? What does that mean, Zaz? It means I feel great. I don't know. Look at me. Listen to me. I feel great today. He feels like a champion. He is a champion journalist, but he would not call himself a champion around the Panthers, Greg.

Greg, because he's just a fan of the Panthers, but he did save their season by sacrificing. That's true. Sacrificing his vacation. One four out of five. When I came home, his team needed him and he ended a vacation, a family vacation early. Sometimes you gotta take charge. Yeah. Putting, putting his beloved Panthers ahead of his family. I get the priorities on that. Well, everyone's happy today, aren't they?

Yeah, maybe a little respect. You show my way. I see you're wearing your champion shirt once again, displaying what a neutral journalist you are. Well, I mean, it's the way it is today. I mean, get with the times. Live in the now, Cody. Wait, Greg, what did I see outside of your house yesterday? And I commented on. OK, we have a little let's go cats placard at the corner. Oh, that's no, no, no. And why is that?

Because Greg Cody lives with someone else in this house who's a big Panthers fan. Still not a good look. It's my wife, and she is a Panthers fan. We had this thing that she had brought home from a game a couple of weeks ago, and she asked me to put it up in the yard, and I did. So you put it up. So there could be a photo out there of you putting it up. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, because paparazzi are all over my house looking for me putting up a Let's Go Cats sign on the corner of my yard. I will say this. I will admit this. Go on. Although I am not a Panthers fan in the way that Zaslow is wearing a Champions shirt today.

It does feather my McOverrated argument that the Panthers not only won, but won the way they did by making McDavid disappear for six games. So even the game he scored a goal, you know, he just had a quiet series and the Panthers turned him quiet. Greg, I don't understand what kind of insults you think it is that a Panther fan is wearing a Panther shirt today. Well, you're a journalist, right? I am a journalist, but journalists are also sports fans.

Yeah, but generally they don't wear the shirt of a team. Says who? Says me. You're not in charge. I got news for you. It is news. Says other journalists. Breaking news from this journalist. You're not in charge. Do you have a placard on your lawn? Do you have a Go Panthers placard on your lawn? No, that'd be ridiculous. Okay, so Tim Reynolds...

Lousy fan, Zazz. Tim Reynolds. So you're a good fan? My wife is. But you're hiding behind that. That's a good costume you're wearing. Yeah, if you can picture my wife out there with a hammer and nails putting up a placard in my yard, go for it. If I had a hammer. A hammer and nail. It's like one of those in the ground...

Whatever. Wait a minute. I can't picture you doing it either, Cody. All right. Hold on a second. Hold on. Stay right there. I'm going to break for a minute. See if I get rid of your son. But we're going live for four hours. Stay there, Cody.

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