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The Big Suey: The Dean of Dap (feat. Jacob Jeffries)

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斯图加茨: 我个人很喜欢选秀大会上球员及其家人的真情流露,被选中是梦想成真的时刻,喜极而泣是很自然的。过去人们不轻易表达情感,但现在社会更加开放,表达情感是被鼓励的。 比利: 过去社会不鼓励哭泣,认为这是软弱的表现,人们习惯于压抑情感。但近年来,随着心理健康意识的提高,人们开始认识到表达情感的重要性,哭泣也被视为一种健康的释放方式。我认为是社会观念的转变导致了更多人在选秀大会上哭泣。 Zazlow: 我认为现在的人们更习惯于在镜头前表演,所以做出极端的反应是常态。 阿明: 我认为现在NBA球员的哭泣,是因为他们意识到自己一下子就变得非常富有。现在的NBA选秀更多的是中上阶层的孩子,因为这项运动已经发展成这样了。他们从小接受更好的训练,有更多的资源,被选中意味着他们和他们的家庭的生活将发生翻天覆地的变化。 克里斯: 我认为家庭背景也影响了情感表达。来自贫困背景的人们可能被教育要坚强,不能轻易流泪,而来自富裕家庭的孩子则更被鼓励表达情感。

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Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.

This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. So a little bit later, we're going to be talking to Jacob Jeffries. Who's he? He is a singer-songwriter who has provided songs for one of my favorite TV shows, Teen Titans Go. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I'm a real big fan of that show. I'm a real big fan of the music that they do in that show. I think it's really well done. And it turns out Jeremy knows a dude that's contributed to this project.

Grand history of great music on this show. Not only does he know him, but before the show, I heard Jeremy say, and I quote, he taught me everything I know about music. Really? It's true. Yeah, he, I was, Billy's so excited about that. I should be on the Blame for Watchlist. Jeez Louise. I mean, that's super disarming, but...

I went to a camp. You'll love this, Billy. I went to a camp, a summer camp as a kid.

Called Broward Arts Camp, and I went there to go be a theater kid, but they had like a rock and roll section. And so the bad kids, right?

we would, during lunch, all play basketball together. And I started doing the rock band stuff. And then he became my keyboard teacher and taught me everything about songwriting. So he rocks. Yeah, okay. All right, I'll stop. So yeah, he'll be joining us. Cool. Call it 15 minutes. Big Panther fan. Well, there you go. Huge Panther fan. He's from down here. There it is. I should hope so. Thank you. There it is. Ace Bailey. Zazz.

Falls to Utah. He famously hadn't worked out for any of the teams and tried to kind of maneuver his way. Some people say Washington. Some people say New Orleans.

But he ends up in Utah. They ask him, "How does it feel to be in Utah?" And he says, "I hear that it gets really hot and it gets really cold." Wow, so it's like every other place in the world except for Florida. I mean, Ace Bailey's the villain of the draft, right? Like, there's no one that was watching the draft two nights ago and didn't come away with, "Wow.

I don't like that kid. He was drafted into the NBA number five overall. He looked like he just got sent off to Afghanistan. You know, like, I mean, he was... Well, I mean, Utah's not that far.

that far. Hey, I got great skiing there. Come on. Guess what? Afghanistan. It gets really hot and it gets really cold. That's right. A lot of dirty cars there. A lot of dirty cars. In Utah or in Afghanistan? Oh, Utah. Oh, that's right. I remember. Zaz, you'll love this. We went to Salt Lake for All-Star weekend and Chris makes the observation, it's a lot of dirty cars here. Oh, the cars are filthy. And so he says, I'm going to open up a car wash business here and make a killing. You guys want in?

80-20 my way? I mean, as long as you do all the work. As long as I don't have to wash the car. Like, no one appreciated Ace Bailey's behavior at the draft, right? Like, leading up to it, I figured he must have a guarantee from somebody. That's why. And he likes that spot. So I'm not working out for anyone anymore. But Utah is just like, no, F it. We think you're really good and we want you to play for us.

and you'll see. We're a good organization. You'll like it here. We're going to prove it to you. Got the exact quote for you here. I know it's cold and it's hot. It get cold and it get hot here. Gotta find me a place with a good heater. I fit in good because we're all young, so we all got to learn. Want to earn, got to learn, right? We can play with each other, get to know each other, how we play, how we fit in, what works. And then also, I

I don't know a lot about Utah, but I'm learning as we go. - But now this is a story, right? Because they're not 100% sure

He's going to be showing up to the press conference. We know the press conference is going to have Walter Clayton Jr., all right? I mean, he's crying when he's selected. He loves going to Utah. And they're not so sure that Ace Bailey is going to show up because apparently, I mean, the agent—and we can get to him in a second—but the agent—we don't know which team, but the agent did tell one of the teams—

Right.

Right. Was it Utah? We don't know. It doesn't sound like it's Utah if he's talking about going to Utah. I mean, I'm not saying he wanted to go to Utah, but I also don't think he told Utah, don't draft me. If he told the one team, it doesn't sound like it was Utah. This is also from his interview after he said, I definitely want to win Rookie of the Year, and I definitely want to be an all-star my rookie year. All right. He's a confident young man. Now, I want to go back to something you talked about. Walter Clayton Jr.,

His lifelong dream has been achieved. Love it. Is that how you feel about people crying at the draft? Well, okay, so that's... Everyone's crying.

one's crying at the draft. And by the way, I'll preface it. I like it. I like the emotion. I like when the kids are overwhelmed. I like when the mom is crying. Heck, last night you had a kid drafted in the second round. His grandpa was crying. Grandpa was so happy. Second round pick, grandpa's crying. I love it. I love the emotion. So many of the kids were super well-spoken with Monica McNutt. They're like, I'm just so happy. And I love that. But I'm wondering,

It wasn't always like this. Why is everyone crying now? It wasn't like that in the past. What's changed that we're all crying? And I like it. Is it the pandemic? We're all more emotional now? Well, no, I think it is we have normalized and made it okay to cry, right? Like it used to be when I was growing up.

Laugh and the world laughs with you. Cry and I'll give you something to cry about, you little son of a bitch. That's one of the great quotes from Great White Hype. But yeah, you don't cry. There's no crying in baseball. You don't cry, basically. You hold it in, you bottle it in. And over the last maybe six or seven years. Mental health. Mental health is big. Everyone is crying. So not the pandemic. It's okay. Well, I mean, I'm sure the pandemic helped. Thank you. Are we just like moving forward when we don't have COVID?

It's a great crime. I think COVID, I guess. What happened to Victoria's Secret? COVID, I guess. I don't know. It's a great thing because then no one can ever argue with you. It is great for like lacking accountability on all fronts on anything. Oh, like your performance. COVID.

Haven't been the same. You didn't wish me a happy birthday. COVID. I forgot to take out the trash at home. I was going to tell my wife COVID. COVID. It's a great excuse. It's a catch-all. We're all recovering still. It was a long pandemic. Grab some pots and pans. Different world now. But why are we all crying? Crying because of COVID. Because of COVID. We told people it's okay to cry.

It's okay to cry. It's okay to show emotion. Are we insinuating this is a bad thing? I actually think No, he said it's a good thing. Like, I know we're joking. It's mental health. You hit it. That's the real reason. People are more in touch with their feelings. That's why we're crying more. I don't think

don't think that's it. You think there's another reason? Well, I'm trying to figure out what the reason is. I almost wonder, though, there's so much money in the NBA now. It used to be, you know, if you were selected, you're a rookie, you're not making a ton of money. The work is still there to be done. You still have work to do. Could it be attention seeking? To be viral? Social media nowadays. You can't fake that. Yeah, but not even faking it, but more that we're all used to, and not just obviously the people in this room where we're literally on camera right now, but

people are used to performing for the camera in their lives and so having extreme reactions to things is part of what we do especially the younger generation you're just you're being judge zazz right now you're just like that's not it yeah i don't think that's what's happening what do you think so coveted this i i think i think there's so much money that it really like vj edgecombe for instance right he went number three to philadelphia which by the way if you don't know

He and his family are from Bimini, which is crazy. All right. It's a beautiful little island in the Bahamas, and it's so small. You know what the population in Bimini is?

Like whoever's there for vacation right now. It's 2,400 people. Yep. That's how many people live in Bimini. And this VJ Edgecombe and his family are from Bimini. It's amazing. All right. I love that story so much. But VJ Edgecombe was talking afterward how they had no electricity. They lived off of a radiator for seven years. So that's probably why he's crying. Well, yeah.

The mother couldn't even talk. The mother was so emotional. So they're drafted right away, and it's not like 20 years ago where, okay, you still got a little work to do before we actually get paid. No, Vijay Edgecombe just got paid, and now it's like, we did it. We did it. Can I offer you a counterpoint? I think that has a lot to do with it. I think Vijay Edgecombe represents...

A stark minority in a time 20 years ago, he would have been the norm. So 20, 25 years ago, guys are getting drafted. And for a lot of these guys, man, I had to come out of some really dire situation to get to this point. Now my family's taken care of. The NBA now and the NBA draft is populated more than ever by upper middle class kids because of just the way this sport has evolved. Right. Especially domestically. Internationally, you still get guys drafted.

who got plucked out of somewhere and got into a program and were discovered that way. But domestically, a lot of these guys, because AU and coaches and trainers... You have to have money to be able to afford the training. It's the reason why back in the day they were like, oh, tennis is such a high barrier to entry because it was so expensive. I think hockey's like that. You've got to have a lot of money to be able to play hockey. They all are. And so you think to yourself...

Like, don't look now, but there may not be any kind of broke kids playing. What was that? I was talking about... It's time for a new game. Don't look now. It's presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly. I'm really thrown off by this eye mask. Guys, don't look now, but...

Taylor Swift made an appearance at Tight End U, T-E-U, in Nashville. She got on stage. Real place. All the tight ends in the NFL and their wives and girlfriends so excited. She performed with Kane Brown on stage. She sang Shake It Off. What a time. What a time to be alive. Chris, you look like Shea Gildas Alexander on Good Morning America right now. Thank you, man.

But don't. Are you looking at me? Well, yeah. You're not supposed to look. I'm not. Okay. Don't look now. The Bucs have extended Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles, the coach. Yeah. It took me a while. He has a funny voice. I was thinking about the Milwaukee Bucs. I thought Milwaukee Bucs, too. Yeah, me too. I was like, who's Todd Bowles? Did I say the Bucs? Oh, I guess they are the Bucs. My bad. Buccaneers. How much does it cost? Back to you guys. That's it? That's all you got? You can look now. We can look now. How much does it cost to pierce a pirate's ears?

Buccaneer. Yeah, I did that one. So it's all middle class. Yeah, no, the demographic is shifting. Well, that would go against my theory. Except, also, that's a demographic that's more in touch with their feelings and more likely to be, it's okay to cry, right? Like, if you come from some stark background, they tell you, hey, man, that's a sign of weakness. You can't show those emotions. You can't trust people with those emotions. But if you're coming up like...

Little Johnny, you know, hey, it's okay. It's okay, buddy. You can cry. Yeah, just look at me. I mean, come on. I come from an upper middle class background and I'm crying all the time. You'd be blubbering if you got drafted. You give me that generationally like life-changing money because it's like if you have, there's one thing to have money. You'd have been like the brother. You'd have been like the brother who just, I mean. It's another thing to have that type of money. Dude.

Dude, I wish I got... Now, here's the funny thing. If I got drafted, I'd be cool as shit. That kid was blubbering. That's Danny Wolf's brother. I like it, though. Again, I like it. So much bone structure definition in those eyes. Oh, my gosh. That slant, those brows. How do you make your brows go like that? I feel so bad for him, man. It looks like his eyes are like...

Seven inches inside his skull. Like from where his bone is at the top of his eyebrows to where his eyeballs are. Throw him up on the screen. It's also his face got so red so quick. Yes. It's like he'd be crying for hours. Just pause it. Pause it right here. Pause it right here.

Look at that face, man. Now, if we hit play on this, I think he moused the F word. Does he? Is there such thing as a happy F word? See? Look. No, maybe because he's looking at himself on the screen. But that proves the point that the Toronto guy maybe was a happy F. He looks like Judge Reinhold, right? Yes, he does. A little bit. A little bit. Maybe he does look up and sees himself. I think you guys are right. That's what I think happened. He sees himself. And that's how he tries to compose himself after that.

If we saw a picture just randomly, you showed someone that, you know, the still frame, he's crying, he's really upset. And you show that to someone and you said, what happened to this person? Like, you would never say that his brother just got drafted to the NBA. Yeah, I'd have a lot of answers. Brother just got a job. Yeah, my brother got a job. It worked out. So that's what I was going to say. If I got drafted, definitely wouldn't cry. I'd be cool as hell.

If my brother got drafted, I think I'd be happy and joyous. I don't think I'd cry. Not to bring it back to Jeremy again, but him and his brother would cry for each other. Dude, a thousand percent. If my child got drafted, I think if it's your child or your grandchild, I think you're allowed to just sob. Am I the only one who thought it was weird behavior from Dylan Harper and his father, Ron Harper, after he was drafted the other night? What was weird about it? Dylan walked right...

He hugged his agent who was standing right next to his father, Ron Harper. He didn't even say anything or dap him up or nothing. And then when they were doing the interview, it was just the Harper brothers and the mother. Now, I understand that they must not be together, the parents, but okay, whatever. Ron is just sitting down. He didn't even like say hello or congratulations or shake his son's hand. I'm the only one who noticed that. I didn't notice it. I didn't. I mean, I guess now in retrospect, I think about it.

But, like, I don't— The agent was right next to Ron. He hugged the agent. He kept walking. Okay. So, okay, let me— You get back to expressing emotions. Maybe in that family they don't— Or maybe— Maybe they're not a hugging family. Maybe it happened when it was off camera. Yeah, there you go. Or maybe he doesn't mess with his dad like that, which it wouldn't be the first time NBA player with NBA dad and the relationships are strained a little bit. Still get Bronny on LeBron. They would hug.

They would dap each other. Do one of their handshakes. One of those secret handshakes. Which, by the way, there is no bigger waste of LeBron's superpower. LeBron, we all know his superpower is he has a photographic memory. Then learning all the handshakes he has to learn. That's the biggest waste of that thing. But it could be probably curing cancer. It's probably one of the most wasteful things you could do with that power. Yeah.

Hey, I can remember everything from any time. So you have him passing up on a chance to be on a board of some cancer medicine development, and he's like, guys, I gotta spend my time memorizing this. I have a handshake appointment today. I'm the dean of DAP. I can't write it down. How bad do you feel if you're LeBron's teammate, and then, like...

he messes up the DAP. Do you just go along with it? Or you're the one teammate that doesn't have a DAP with him. When you get there, are you wondering, when is LeBron going to approach me to come up with a DAP? Because I can't bring it up to him. When's he going to come to me? Let's assume, because LeBron is like the ultimate politician, he comes up and says, hey, guy, let's do this DAP. And you're like, cool. Oh, my God. You go home. Mom, Dad, met LeBron today. He made up a DAP. I'm going to practice it right now in my mirror over and over and over again. And then you see him the next day and you're like,

What's up, LeBron? And you get ready to do the DAP, and you know the DAP forwards and backwards. Like, you think they do the DAP in practice and there's no cameras?

I think they have a DAP practice. There's a lot of time. From 1 to 2 today, it's DAP practice. LeBron doesn't have time to DAP practice. He comes up with the DAP, and then that's on you to practice it. So the kid practices it, and then the next day he comes and sees LeBron. He's all excited, and he's going for the DAP. And LeBron, in a rare moment of weakness, messes up the DAP. If you're the kid, do you correct him, or do you just adjust on the fly? Because this is now the new DAP. Now you just learn a new DAP.

What if, because I assume LeBron creates all the daps, so it's like, this will be ours. What if you don't like the dap? You've got a lot of balls to tell LeBron what kind of dap you want. What if you don't like the dap he created? I just have to live with this dap. I can't give him notes of like, what if instead we do the elbow hit instead of the... Everyone does the...

Arms locking, like let's gingerly touch our obo tips. Kevin Love had the handshake, do you guys remember that one? Everyone had this and then it was just like a white man's handshake. Yeah. Sure, like, I like that. I think it's because Kevin Love couldn't remember the dap. Maybe. He's like, can we keep this simple for me? He's like, I got it actually. Or maybe Kevin Love was like, hey, okay, so I'm thinking we could do this and he says, no, no, no, no, you just get a handshake.

'cause you don't fit in. - Right, fit in, don't fit out. - Don't fit out. - I think what makes this complicated is like, if you're gonna practice this handshake, right, we're saying LeBron comes up with it and then everyone goes and practices on their own to eventually come back to him. Well the coordination or the choreography of what goes into these, it's really oriented by the height

the person you're doing it with so if you're not going up against a six foot eight person to be able to do this it's not going to work out so do you think that there's a chance that LeBron maybe hires a bunch of six eight doubles that throughout the

beginning of the year training camp that basically he brings a bunch of lebron james stunt doubles to training camp wherever they're having it so that they can specifically in their off-time practice these daps with each player on the team respectively exactly at the rehearsal where they had like five different replicas of this apartment and the pilot and the girl that he's trying to make a move on and his captain was a captain fears or whatever and the

Jennifer Kissmeat. Yeah, Captain Fears, I think is what the name was. Captain Powers. Captain Powers. Right. And that only leading, of course, to lieutenant and captains that were supposed to be blunt toward each other. I like the idea of hiring people to stand in for me to prepare everyone else. To be around me. What life around me is like. I think I actually need that.

I need that. I find that a lot of people are jarred by what my life is. My home family, sometimes they're like, what? What do you mean you're getting on another plane? What do you mean? Right. I need like a stand-in to just kind of prep them. Right, not to live your life for when you're not there. No, no, no. No, that's the multiplicity rule. By the way, absolutely. If there were a way I could clone myself, oh, my God.

Three and five Amin's. Lousy movie though. I would never. Barry Jackson. Lousy movie. I liked it. I'd have five Amin's. Five Amin's and we'd run full court. Five Amin's, but I would have done this when I was 30. Do you think there would be an Amin that you like better than the other Amin? Yeah, this one right here. No, no, but the guys you're playing with. If there was a clone Amin better than you, would you like that because that clone Amin is making you look good or would you be jealous that clone Amin is getting more love than you?

I think this happened in multiplicity as well, right? Yeah. Every clone got dumber and dumber and dumber and dumber. Would you take out a clone of yourself that you view as a threat to you? A threat to me? Only if, you know why? And is the threat to you someone that's a worse portrayal of you or someone that's better than you? The only reason to take out a clone is if that clone... Hits on your wife? No, not even. Not even.

If that clone... Isn't that what happened in Multiplicity? Yes. It's a great movie. I don't know why you're shitting on me. It's not a great movie. It's a great movie. It's not. No, if that clone was so smart and also so evil, he was going to take me out first. That's when you got to take him out. Well, if you're thinking about taking him out, he must be thinking about taking you out. And that's the problem. And that's why you can't clone Amin. If you take out your own clone, is that a crime? No. No.

Really? I would say yes. You can murder clones. Mickey 17? Anyone watch the movie Mickey 17? Should I watch that? I'm interested. Should I watch that? Entertaining. It's entertaining. It's not the best movie ever, but it's entertaining. Oh, well, I was looking for the best movie ever. The voices are great. All right. Well, let's go to the guest line. We got... The guest line. Yeah. I'm sorry. We're doing radio over here. Go to Subway.

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Don Levitard. Woody, we have a photo right here. If you can see in this photo with my daughter there, I am pointing exactly to the point on the Stanley Cup where it says, you suck ass. Stugatz. Wow.

Right there. They engraved it? Really? They got that engraved? Yeah, they got it engraved right there. It says, Chris Whittingham sucks ass. This is the Don Levitas Show with the Stugats. Jacob Jeffries. Jacob Jeffries joins us. Welcome to the show, Jacob. Welcome to the show, Jacob. He provides Robin's singing voice in the Teen Titans Go to the Movies movie. What's up, you guys? Wrote a couple of songs. Jacob, thanks for joining us.

Full disclosure, I'm the one who requested that you be here. Jeremy mentioned that you are, that your involvement with Teen Titans Go! and I love that show so much. And specifically, I love the music. I think the music is very funny and at the same time, really good. They don't mail it in. I don't know how to explain this so people don't watch the show. But a lot of times when you're watching, especially any kind of serial TV show,

The songs are just kind of haphazardly slapped together just to get to the point that they're trying to make. And it seems like Teen Titans Go, there's a lot of emphasis on like making good music, like songs you actually would want to listen to outside the context of the show. How did you get involved with Teen Titans Go? Yeah, well, I got to give props first and foremost to my buddy Jared Faber, who he he's kind of the music creator and producer.

He kind of oversees the show itself that you're speaking about. He and I, he's actually a South Florida. He got, he's got some South Florida ties. And yeah, he's lives out here in LA where I am right now. I'm just waking up. Sorry. So thanks for bearing with my, I'm talking slow over here. You got it. You're better than Alexander right now. Another Jeremy. That's right. But yeah,

No, Jared, he's a good friend of mine. We've been writing songs for TV shows together for a while. I didn't really have a lot to do with the TV show itself, but when the movie came along and the offer for the feature film happened back in 2018, Jared called me in to come help write some songs. And I'll just jump to the story, which is we started writing tunes for the movie. And the demo...

ended up being liked more by the uh the guys in suits if you know what i mean and then uh

They actually liked my singing voice more than the guy who's been doing Robin for over a decade. So it was just a wild circumstance. And then I ended up being the singing voice of Robin. But I did write two other tunes, one of which Michael Bolton sings in the movie, which was an honor. So it's pretty funny. Where on your resume do you put teaching Jeremy everything he knows about music? Yeah.

That is a little bit further down than the Teen Titans. I get it. All it led to was parody songs here, so it couldn't have been that great. Did you know anything about Teen Titans when you were tasked with writing for the movie? And if you didn't, do you go back and watch episodes? Do you get a feel for it? How do you do that?

That's a really good question. Honestly, not so much. I didn't know much about Teen Titans. I knew my friend Jared was very involved with it, and his friend Michael, or sorry, Peter, his last name's Michael, I think. Peter...

was the creator of it and an old friend of Jared's. So I just knew these guys, but I didn't really know much about the show. But that's kind of my favorite place to be is not really knowing what's going on. And then someone giving me a brief, like, and then I can kind of, I can kind of like just spit ball a bunch of ideas and then they can help shape it with me. You know, I love collaborating like that. Were there any ideas that they were like, okay, that's not really the kind of show we have here. You're missing the point here.

Probably. I don't really remember. I'm not gun shy when it comes to just kind of throwing stuff at the wall. Is that how Jeremy acts in the studio? Yes, that's how he is. Especially with music. That's exactly right.

You can't really have much shame at the end of the day. It all kind of... Everyone dies. I mean, sorry, but... What? Yeah, he gets it. Yeah. No, you just got to throw stuff out there and then not be embarrassed. But I was going to say that the... I like whoever said what. But yeah, I think part of what was funny about that process was a lot of the guys... Because it's such a big... It's a big...

A lot of people have trickle-down ideas. And then what I thought was really funny was there were a lot of ideas coming through for the Teen Titans Go movie that were from the heads of animation department. And they weren't really songwriters, but they were submitting lyrics to us. And we were like, what? None of these have any rhythm or flow to it. It was all just dudes that have never written lyrics before. Just like, this is a good idea, right? And then they'll send it in. And we're like, no. What is it?

You know, there's a lot of that. All too familiar, Jacob, with suits trying to tell us how to do our job, man. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Not fun. Hey, quick question for you. Yeah, dude. You're a Panthers fan. Big Panthers fan. I had to wear the hat for the interview. What a team. What a team. How did you celebrate? Dude, finally we have a team. I've been a Panthers fan for, I mean, since their inception. Yeah.

I, uh, how did I celebrate this year? I was actually at game six. I flew in. Yes. Um, and I was sitting right there behind, well, unfortunately I was on the other end of the ice. They were celebrating on the other end. I was on the shoot twice side. Oh, 128. That's where I say, where were you at? I was right above you. I was, um,

I was like CL, I don't know. Oh, Clubba, yeah, I think I saw you. I think I saw you. What did I pay for these parody shows? Jeez, yeah. Teen Titans Go money, what's happening? You come out of pocket or did you have a hookup? No, this is, come on, man, it was a hookup, dude. Yeah, it's a good connection. I did come out of pocket for the, like, last minute flight, which I rarely do, but I had to do it for the cats. And,

Yeah, this was, it was just, yeah, it was amazing. I cried last year. This year I was a little more just hyped and adrenaline. I had so much adrenaline because I was there. But what a turnaround from when I was a kid watching this team. And I read an amazing tweet or Instagram post or something that said, yeah,

I just paid $76 for parking during a Stanley Cup series game. I used to pay $76 to get me, my wife, and two kids into the whole game. Yep. Eat, drink, all that jazz. And it's just, we've come a long way. I mean, Zito and yeah, it's what a team, man. All right. So you cried last year when they won. Why do you think people are crying so much these days? COVID? In general or over sports? General. In general. Just in general. COVID, right? Oh, man. That's a good question. Um...

it's a lot of there's a lot of stimuli out there you know i don't know people are feeling overwhelmed thank you our theory is coveted over here oh yeah like you could just blame covet for anything yeah you probably could

It was COVID's back, apparently, with razor blade ferocity and vengeance. Is it? Yeah, I saw razor blade. The strain is called razor blade to where it is. The sore throat is supposed to feel like razor blades in your throat. All right, let me just say this about COVID. Number one, it's like a bad, like, 90s movie series where we just keep getting sequels. But number two...

The titles are always awesome. Remember Omicron? Yeah. And now you got one called Razorblade. It's like the Transformers movies. Do all the other diseases feel like, damn, man, these guys are killing it. Oh, the flu is just like, oh, I'm the flu again. This is flu something. Gout's over here like, what the hell? Yeah, Gout's still on Gout 1. We don't even have- Gout 1. But meanwhile, these guys are coming out with sequel after sequel. Razorblade? Yeah. Yeah.

cool ass disease. These are like Power Ranger enemies, nemesis. Omicron. His name is Jacob Jeffries. You can go to jacobjeffries.com this week to pre-order his new album You Got the Right Idea on vinyl, which comes out in September. The third single from the upcoming album Worry dropped earlier this week wherever you stream music. Jacob, thanks so much for joining us. Oh, before we let you go, should Pat Riley step down?

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, dude. I'm just saying. I'm doing show topics with you here. Yeah, man. He said yeah, man. Put it on the scroll. Jeremy said yes earlier this week. No, I didn't. If you want to. Man, if it was Panthers talk, I'd be all in. But I think maybe, okay, wait. I don't know where anybody stands. I don't know what I'm about to say, like how I'm about to rock the boat here. Good sample.

I will say that maybe there is a time and place to change the guard. What? I don't endorse this anymore. Get this guy out of here. Jacob said it. Jacob is no longer my friend. But I don't know if now's the time, man. Oh, there you go. That's a kick save and a beaut. Atta boy. Go get his album. Check out Worry, wherever you stream your music. JacobJeffries.com. Jacob, thanks a lot. All right. Thank you guys so much.

That was Jacob Jeffries. Are you guys happy I didn't make a sit down, you're rocking the boat from Guys and Dolls reference? Yes. He said you're rocking the boat. Thank you. Jacob did. I wanted to ask him whether the Matthew Kachuk deal was a mistake on behalf of Chris Whittingham. I mean, he's still there if you really want to ask, but no, let's not do that. He's still in the Zoom. He's taking his head no. Ha ha ha.

Obviously, very obviously it was not a mistake. Well, we got a guy, he's actually a pretty big-time broadcaster now. His name is Chris Whittingham. And he said at the time the deal was a mistake, and then they won the Stanley Cup last year, and he said it's still a mistake. And then they won it again this year, and he still thinks it's a mistake. He's a loser.

What the heck? He just doesn't know how to not be stubborn, and he's constantly doubling and tripling down on every single take he has. It's just who he is. He also said Giannis was a number two in basketball and I think still believes it. It might be. He might be. If I give you Chris Whittingham, is there anyone else who is a bigger doubler down than him? Anybody in sports or outside of sports? Mike Ryan.

I think he's got Mike. Mike's transition to hand up my bad guy. Nobody likes apologizing more than him. He doesn't do it a lot, but he does it. That's the point. Whereas Witte doubles and triples and quadruples down even as the evidence mounts.

No, it has to be witty ahead of Mike Ryan because Mike Ryan's got the whole thing with Brad Marchand, but Mike Ryan still wants the Panthers to win. Chris Whittingham has completely jumped ship and he hates the Panthers now, which is a vomit, obviously. By the way, has that ever happened in the history of mankind? Guy roots for team.

Guy abandons team, team becomes champion, and he's like, nope, I'm not coming back. I've tweeted that it's the worst sports decision in human history. And the team was garbage for a decade. I'm willing to go...

Take the sports out of that. It is the worst decision in history. Like, just give me a worse decision in all of history than getting rid of your fandom with the Panthers the moment they traded for Matthew Kachuk, which is consensus, a top trade of like the last two decades in sports. This is like a Tyler Hero view on history. If you think the worst decision in history involves the Florida Panthers. Name something. Go ahead. The worst decision in history? Yes.

Holocaust is pretty bad. All right. Yeah. Second worst. Holocaust is worse. Name two. Name two.

The election. Okay. No, I think Witty. Witty was worse. Put that on the crawl. And that's coming from down the middle, Chris. What was worse for the world? The election or Witty? Don't say the other one. What's worse for the world? What's the worst decision in human history? The election or Witty abandoning the Panthers right before they won back-to-back Stanley Cups?

What was the third one? Don't say it. We don't have the third one. We don't say it. I didn't hear it because Fuentes was talking in my ear. It was definitely worse than the Panthers. Really? It was the Holocaust. Now we have four minutes to kill. Shit. Thank you. Hey, side view mirrors. What's up with that? Ha ha ha ha.

Finally, we get to this topic. Okay. Nowadays, all these new fancy cars, you lock the car, what happens to the side view mirrors? They fold in. They fold in. Basically telling every thief in the world if your car is unlocked.

If I forget and leave my car unlocked, what are my mirrors? They're out. If I'm like a guy at a mall and I want to rob some cars, I'm just walking around. If I see the mirrors out, I'm like, that's a chance. And it's just, I don't like the advanced mirrors. I don't like, I don't like, it's just, I get it. It's for, I guess it's for tight parking spaces to make. Yeah. So people aren't smashing your shit on the way in. Are your mirrors getting, like, I don't know.

I know it happens. I've never had a side view mirror destroyed. I've had a side view mirror destroyed. And I might, every once in a while, forget to lock my car. I'm not the best with that. Every once in a while, I walk back to my car and I let it unlock. Do you not do the thing? I have the thing where, I don't know, it's a Honda Pilot, so it's not exactly the greatest car ever, but

When I walk away from my car, as long as the key fob is in my pocket... It automatically locks? It automatically locks. Yeah, mine too. I don't have that. It makes a little chirp. I wish I had that. I'm confused by what my car does when it comes to locking and unlocking. When I have the key, when the key is too close. Like, I don't know what's going on. I hate when it's like... You used to just have a key. You open it or lock. Now I don't know what's happening. I won't lie as I do get annoyed when I walk up to my car and it's like, and you are? I'm like...

It's me. I have the key in my pocket. I never know. My car's like, I don't know who you are, buddy. Every once in a while, the key fob won't work. And then I have to like, you mean this thing?

And the car looks, oh, I mean, of course it's you. And then open. I'm like, what are we doing? I do this every day. And my wife seems to think there's like a button on the handlebar where I don't even need to touch anything on the key. And it's like, I can't get that to work. I don't know what's happening. It only works when you're not expecting it. You walk up and grab your door. It's like, you accidentally hear all the doors unlock. You're like, what? It's just random. It's just, I just feel like the risk is.

I don't want someone to be easily walking through a garage and be like, that's clearly locked. I just feel like it's just a little giveaway. But they're not all like that. That's the thing. Maybe not. My car doesn't do that. The windows don't come out. And maybe there's a setting that I could turn it off. I'd love that. But then they would always assume that your car is unlocked. Wait, you don't want people to know your car is locked? I don't want them to know when it is unlocked. No, he's saying when the mirrors are out that that's a sign that his car is unlocked.

So like, I think now in this, like the space we're living in right now, there's still plenty of cars out there. But like, think about 10 years from now, every car is going to have that. So I just feel like it's a, you're walking through a garage. I can see, okay, that car could be open. That car could be open. Can I provide a solution for you?

Fold in your mirrors at all times. Drive with the mirrors folded, and then no one will ever know that it's unlocked. We're spitballing. No bad ideas. I'm just saying, like, hey, you know, back in the day, they didn't have mirrors. They had to turn around and look like that and turn around and look like this. In the Ford Model T, there were no mirrors on that thing. As someone who you're— Drove a Ford Model T? Well, you drove back when the manual windows— Oh, my God, the roll-up. You had to turn around to look— I love you shaming you. I had an Uber in Oklahoma that had the roll-up.

- Really? - Yeah. - Nah, I'd get out. - Roll-ups are coming back. - But if you now, as someone who has driven the old way, if you had to drive a car now where you don't have the cameras, you don't have the auto, would you be able to drive that car? - I'd be able, I'd be cursing out the car at the hole every single step of the way. - I think it'd be hard.

There was a point where I still had my old car that didn't have the rear view camera. Man, backing up just to park in a spot. Yeah, turning your head. You got to put the arm on the car, you know, the seats so you can turn around. That's hard. That was also a good way to do the move, though. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm just trying to park the car, honey. Chris, I have great news. There's a store manager position open. Boobs on his computer. Again. There's a store manager position open at Victoria's Secret in Pembroke Pines. I'm in. Inspector?

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