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Brian Eno Knows “What Art Does”

2025/6/3
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Brian Eno: 我一直对艺术的根本问题感兴趣，即我们为什么创作艺术。我认为艺术并非奢侈品，而是我们被美丽的事物所引导。艺术的真正目的是改变我们的感觉，给我们带来新的或想要重温的感觉。感觉是万物的开端，是我们与世界的第一道联系。我发现，人类认为的巅峰体验，如艺术、爱、宗教等，都是我们愿意让一些超出我们理解和控制能力的事情发生在我们身上的情境，是一种臣服。我认为孩子们通过玩耍来学习，而艺术是成年人玩耍的方式，是一种模拟器，让我们在安全的环境中体验各种情感和经历。 Amanda Petrusich: 我认为您说的很有道理，艺术确实与感觉和体验息息相关。您提到的臣服的概念也很有意思，它提醒我们，过分强调控制会使人的世界变得狭小。艺术让我们有机会体验不同的情感，从而更好地理解自己和世界。

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Brian Eno, reflecting on his art school years and career, posits that the core product of art is feelings. He challenges the notion that feelings are irrelevant, arguing that they are fundamental to human experience and the starting point of everything. This chapter explores this theory, contrasting it with the common view that art is a luxury.
  • Art's main product is feelings.
  • Feelings are the beginning of everything and our first contact with the world.
  • The misconception that feelings are irrelevant is challenged.

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In the music business, Brian Eno is a name to conjure with. He’s been the producer of tremendous hits by U2, Talking Heads, David Bowie, Grace Jones, Coldplay, and many other top artists. But he’s also a conceptualist, nicknamed Professor Eno in the British music press, and a foundational figure in ambient music—a genre whose very name Eno coined. Amanda Petrusich speaks with Eno about his two new albums that just came out, “Luminal” and “Lateral,” and his new book, “What Art Does.” “One of the realizations I had when I was writing this book is that really the only product of art is feelings,”  Eno says. “Its main point is to make your feelings change—is to give you feelings that you perhaps didn’t have before or did have before and want to have again or want to experiment with. So it seems very simplistic to say, ‘Oh, it’s all about feelings.’ But actually I think it is. Feelings are overlooked by all of those people who think bright children shouldn’t do art.”