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Nancy Pelosi, the Power Broker

2024/8/8
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David Remnick: 本期节目探讨了南希·佩洛西作为美国政治权力掮客的影响力,以及她对美国政治的贡献和争议。文章回顾了佩洛西的政治生涯,包括她担任众议院议长期间的立法成就,以及她对拜登总统竞选的影响。同时,节目也关注了佩洛西的个人经历,例如她丈夫遭受的袭击事件,以及她对美国政治暴力和两极分化的看法。访谈中,佩洛西分享了她对美国政治现状的分析,包括对特朗普主义的批判,以及对民主党未来发展方向的展望。 Nancy Pelosi: 佩洛西在访谈中回顾了她漫长的政治生涯,分享了她对权力的理解,以及她如何运用政治技巧和策略来实现她的目标。她谈到了她对美国政治的贡献,包括推动通过重要的立法,以及她对拜登总统的建议。同时,佩洛西也分享了她对美国政治现状的担忧,包括政治暴力和两极分化。她强调了女性在政治中的作用,以及她对年轻一代政治领导人的期望。佩洛西还谈到了她丈夫遭受袭击事件给她带来的创伤,以及她对美国政治未来的展望。她认为,了解自己“为什么”从事政治,才能克服政治生涯中的艰难险阻。 David Remnick: 本节目深入探讨了南希·佩洛西的政治生涯和影响力,以及她对美国政治的独特贡献。文章分析了佩洛西的政治策略和领导风格,以及她如何运用权力来影响政治进程。同时,节目也关注了佩洛西的个人经历,例如她丈夫遭受的袭击事件,以及她对美国政治暴力和两极分化的看法。访谈中,佩洛西分享了她对美国政治现状的分析,包括对特朗普主义的批判,以及对民主党未来发展方向的展望。 Nancy Pelosi: 佩洛西在访谈中分享了她对权力的理解,以及她如何运用政治技巧和策略来实现她的目标。她谈到了她对美国政治的贡献,包括推动通过重要的立法,以及她对拜登总统的建议。同时,佩洛西也分享了她对美国政治现状的担忧,包括政治暴力和两极分化。她强调了女性在政治中的作用,以及她对年轻一代政治领导人的期望。佩洛西还谈到了她丈夫遭受袭击事件给她带来的创伤,以及她对美国政治未来的展望。她认为,了解自己“为什么”从事政治,才能克服政治生涯中的艰难险阻。

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Nancy Pelosi discusses her role in influencing President Biden's decision to withdraw from the campaign, her relationship with him, and the impact of the assault on her husband.

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Nancy Pelosi, who represents California’s Eleventh Congressional District, led the Democratic Party in the House of Representatives for so long, and so effectively, that one forgets she was also the first woman to hold the job. Her stewardship of consequential legislation—including the Affordable Care Act and the Inflation Reduction Act—during her eight years as Speaker is legendary. And Pelosi has wielded tremendous influence this election cycle: she seems to have been instrumental in persuading President Biden to withdraw from the campaign in place of a new Democratic candidate.  After years of friendship with Biden, it wasn’t easy, she tells David Remnick, who asks, “You think your relationship will be there?” “I hope so,” Pelosi admits. “I pray so. I cry so. I lose sleep on it.” After stepping away from Democratic leadership herself, in 2023, she wrote a book with a short and apt title: “The Art of Power).”  Pelosi speaks to Remnick about the importance of having a strong mission undergirding the skills of political gamesmanship. “This is not for the faint of heart,” she says. “This is tough. If you know your ‘why,’ the slings and arrows are worth it. If you don’t know your ‘why,’ don’t even do this. . . . You’ve got to be proud of your wounds.”