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Newt Gingrich on What Trump Could Accomplish in a Second Term

2024/10/4
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Newt Gingrich: 我认为现行体制腐败且危险,迫切需要像安德鲁·杰克逊一样强势的人物来进行彻底改革。特朗普正是这样一位人物,他敢于直面全国体制,为深刻变革而战。尽管他的个性有时过于强势,但他拥有非凡的能力和能量,这正是他成功的关键。我支持特朗普,是因为我相信他能够解决美国面临的诸多问题,例如经济不平等、民主受到威胁、环境灾难等。虽然我不认同特朗普在某些问题上的观点,例如他对乌克兰战争和移民政策的看法,但我相信他的优点大于缺点,他的第二任期将更有成效。他将吸取第一任期的经验教训,组建更务实的团队,专注于解决实际问题,而不是被无关的争议分散注意力。 David Remnick: 许多与特朗普共事过的共和党人,包括他的副总统、国家安全顾问、国务卿、国防部长、幕僚长和参谋长联席会议主席等,都认为特朗普对国家安全构成威胁。特朗普在竞选期间发表的言论,例如称哈里斯副总统为'精神残疾',以及他对乌克兰总统泽连斯基的蔑视,都令人担忧。此外,特朗普对2020年大选结果的质疑,以及他在1月6日事件中的行为,也引发了人们对其领导能力和道德品质的质疑。这些都让人们对特朗普的第二任期感到担忧。

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Newt Gingrich's early advocacy for "nasty" politics foreshadowed Trump's aggressive rhetoric. Gingrich, while not endorsing all of Trump's language, justifies it as a necessary tool against a perceived "cultural elite." He views Trump's intensity and occasional outbursts as part of his personality, not necessarily flaws.
  • Gingrich's 1978 speech encouraged Republicans to be "nasty" in politics.
  • Gingrich believes Trump's aggressive style is necessary to challenge the established political order.
  • Gingrich views Trump as a complex figure with both strengths and weaknesses.

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Long before Donald Trump got serious about politics, Newt Gingrich saw himself as the revolutionary in Washington, introducing a combative style of party politics that helped his party become a dominating force in Congress. Setting the template for Trump, Gingrich described Democrats not as an opposing team with whom to make alliances but as an alien force—a “cultural élite”—out to destroy America. Gingrich has written no less than five admiring books about Trump, and he was involved with pushing the lie of the stolen election of 2020. Like many in the Party, he balks at some of Trump’s tactics, but always finds an excuse. “I would probably not have used the language Trump used,” for example in calling Vice-President Kamala Harris “mentally disabled,” Gingrich says. “Partly because I think that it doesn’t further his cause. . . . I would simply say that he is a very intense personality . . . and occasionally he has to explode.” But he sees Trump as seasoned and improved with age, and his potential in a second term far greater. “It’s almost providential: he’s had four years [out of office] to think about what he’s learned . . . and he has a much deeper grasp of what has to be done and how to do it.”