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Fake Electors, Trump's Legal Battles, Asylum Rule Challenge

2023/7/19
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新闻播报员:报道了密歇根州16名伪造选举人面临刑事指控,以及特朗普可能面临与1月6日国会大厦袭击事件相关的第三次起诉。同时,拜登政府的庇护政策也受到了法庭的挑战。 Colin Jackson:详细介绍了密歇根州伪造选举人案的指控细节,指出这些被告伪造文件,试图将密歇根州的选举人票授予特朗普,即使特朗普在该州输掉了选举。他还谈到了这些被告的背景,以及此案在全国范围内的影响。 Neal:作为民主党人,他认为对伪造选举人的指控并非政治行为,而是基于压倒性的证据。 Greg Allen:报道了特朗普被告知是特别检察官对1月6日事件调查的目标人物,暗示他可能面临第三次起诉。他还报道了特朗普的律师请求推迟对特朗普隐瞒机密文件的审判,以及检方对此的回应。 Joe Rose:报道了拜登政府新的庇护申请规则,以及该政策引发的争议。移民权益倡导者认为该政策不合理,因为它造成了申请瓶颈;而移民限制支持者则认为该政策只是障眼法,并没有真正减少非法移民。 特朗普的律师Tad Hutchin:认为特朗普作为前总统和总统候选人,应该得到特殊考虑,不应该像其他案件一样对待。 检察官David Harbou:反驳了特朗普律师的观点,认为特朗普只是普通公民,而不是总统,媒体关注不应成为推迟审判的理由。 新闻播报员: 报道了密歇根州对16名伪造选举人提起刑事诉讼,他们试图在2020年大选中将密歇根州的选举人票授予特朗普。同时,特朗普被告知是特别检察官对1月6日事件调查的目标人物,这可能导致他面临第三次起诉。此外,拜登政府的庇护政策也受到了法庭的挑战,导致非法越境人数下降。

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Sixteen individuals in Michigan face felony charges for their attempt to fraudulently award the state's electoral votes to Donald Trump in the 2020 election. The charges involve forgery and relate to a memo falsely claiming they were duly elected electors. The group includes prominent Republican figures and elected officials.
  • Sixteen individuals charged with eight felonies each, mostly related to forgery
  • Falsely claimed to be Michigan's official electors
  • Memo submitted to the National Archives
  • Includes prominent Republican figures and elected officials

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In michigan, sixteen fake electors try to turn the twenty twenty elections in Donald rums favor.

Now they face criminal charges.

They weren't the duly elected and qualified electors.

And each of the defendants knowing is first from M. P. R.

news. The former president's legal wales keep piling up. First trump was and died in march. Then I got to june, and now maybe a third, indicate this way. In connection with the attack on the capital, I got a letter that called him a target of the special council's january six investigation.

And at the southern border, fewer people are getting across illegally. Biden administration credits restrict of asylum policies, but both immigrant advocates and immigration hawks say those policies are little does the focus of court hearing today stay with us will give you the news.

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Now we know Donald truck may face federal charges efforts to overturn the twenty twenty election, but there are now related charges in michigan.

A yesterday, the democratic s data in general announced charges against sixteen fake electors, these where people who submitted paperwork to the federal government falsely saying that they were michigan's true electors, and the Donald trump won the state, even though he clearly lost michigan.

To talk about all this, we have Colin Jackson of the michigan public radio network. Good morning, Colin.

Good morning.

So what do we know about these charges?

Well, there are sixteen defendants total. They each face eight felon charges that mostly have to do with forgery. And as you might, they stand from this moment in december of twenty twenty, when attorney general dinner, nesle said the sixteen defendants gathered in the basement of what was then the republican party headquarters, they allegedly signed a memo falsely stating that they were michigan official electoral college members when they were not, and tried to award michigan electoral college votes to former president Donald trump's even though he lost the state handling.

A group tried to drop that memo off at the state capital where the state's real electors were gathering, but they were turned away. But despite that, nestle says they did still transmit that memo to the national archives. And former vice president might pence hoping head overturn the election results? Um here's neal democrat discussing IT yesterday.

Undoubted there will be those who claim these charges are political in nature, but where there is overwhelming evidence of guilt in respect to multiple crimes, the most political act I could engage in as a prosecutor would be to take no action at all.

What do we know about the people charged?

They range in age from fifty five to eighty two. The name that jumped out immediately to me was Michael matic. She's a prominent from ally and until recently was the michigan republican party coach.

Her husband is a current republican state representative whose part of our house freedom caucus, I want to note, he was not charged or mentioned anywhere in the ages announcement, but there are also a few elected officials on the list. Those include a west michigan city mayor and intent vanderwater metro detroit suburb clerk named stand growth in michigan local clerk. Actually, help me, minister elections. This just happened yesterday. So so far, I haven't seen much reaction yet though .

the charges so that maybe coming now, michigan isn't the only place where there were fake electrons. This happened in several other swing states where there are also investigations. But if you calling, could just put bisham an in the national context. When IT comes to efforts to overturn a legitimate election in the U. S.

And michigan was one of the centerpiece of the so called staff, the steel movement. After he became apparent, trump lost to president by by more than one hundred and fifty thousand votes. We saw trump's attorneys and allies kind of flood the courts with lawsuits trying to overturn the results.

You may remember the nickname given to them. The crack in each of those chAllenges were thrown out. Though election dyal ism that has taken hold on the republican party institution here, we've seen party leadership largely be at the forefront of wrongly claiming trumpy. We've also seen infighting continue. Oh, as IT relates to that.

So what should we expect next now for the sixteen people charged in the fake al lecture .

for those charges? Now there hasn't been A A date set yet for their arrangement, but a tourney, mal nesle does say more people could be charged.

So these are the first charges we seen of this kind will see if other states follows suit. That's Colin Jackson of the michigan public radio network. Thank you.

Thank you.

Former president Donald terms legal problems keep getting bigger.

On tuesday, he revealed he's been notified he's a target in special council js ith investigation of the january is sixth insurrection at the capital. Their questions about whether this could lead a third in detection for trump, and yes, from lawyers were in court and four, pierce Flora on his second indictment, they asked a federal judge to delay his trial on charges, withholding and concealing classified documents until after next year's presidential election. There are prosecutors want to trial to start in december.

mr. Greg, again, enjoying this now from four peers high. Greg, okay. So before we get to what's going on in florida, let's talk about what trump is calling a target letter. Does this mean he'll be invited again? A third incitement and face more felony charges?

IT does look at like a strong possibility to posted this on his website to social yesterday. He said he received words sunday. He's a target at the investigation that he has four days to appear before the grand jury. Granja has been meeting in washington for some time as part of a special counsel, jack smith, january six, investigation. But target letters like that, especially for someone like a former president, suggest an indictment will soon follow on what charges it's not clear yet, but illegal observers say they could include obstructing the legal proceeding and conspiracy to the frame. The government, all the suggested, could be the most serious case yet .

against the former president. okay. So you were in court yesterday for a different case where trump has been edited. Um he's charged with willfully withholding and concealing classified documents. What do we know about when that trial will start?

Well, that is the question right now. Lawyers for the former president told U. S. District judge I lin can, and they believe the case should be delayed until next year after the presidential election, and that's more than a year from now. They have numerous reasons for that.

They laid out among them, and one that seem to Carry some weight with the judge, is the sher volume of material that defense lawyers have to go through. They say they have more than one hundred ninety thousand emails, four hundred and fifty gigabytes of data and more than eleven hundred days of surveilLance camera footage to go through. They also say that this fits the legal definition of a complex case, which merits a more extended trial schedule, a troubled layer.

Tad lunch told the judge that is a former president in one who is now running again for the nation's higher office. He deserves special consideration, ban said. IT is intellection dishonest to stand up, confirm this court and say this cases like any other IT is not.

How do prosecutors react to that?

Well, they certainly reject that argument. A prosecutor, David harbour, told the judge, mister truck is not the president. He's a private citizen. Indeed, by a grand jury, harbor also rejected in assertion by trumps lawyers that all the publicity and press coverage surrounding IT is another reason to delay the trial. He told the judge that all the publicly surround trump is, quote, chronic and almost permanent. Prosecutors want to start to trial in less than five months on december eleven, and lawyers for trump anzai, while nota, who's also enough in the case, said, that can possible be ready by then. They told the judge they came begin to discuss a possible trial schedule and tail .

sometime in november. Any hints from the judge on how he might rule on the start date of the trial?

It's where everybody is trying to figure out a judge canned is a trump appointed. And you may recall that he received the legal review last year from a federal appeals court. The struck down a rule and he made that was favorable to trump.

This was in an earlier hearing regarding these classified documents. After now, she's been pushing for a speedy trial. SHE seemed to take note yesterday of the large amount material that trump and out as lawyers have to go through, but he also seemed frustrated by their argument that they can't begin to discuss a schedule now. So SHE said till issue was in order soon on an appropriate schedule.

And peers greg Allen, in four peers, florida. Thanks.

you. welcome.

The number of people crossing the U. S. Mexico border illegally has dropped to the lowest level in more than two years.

That's partly because the bite administration limited how many people are granted access to the country who are seeking asylum. But immigrant advocates and immigration hawks alike say the administration's border policies are unlawful. There's a court hearing today chAllenging the new asylum rules.

and p. Joe rose has been following all this. Enjoys me now.

Good morning. okay. So remind us what these new rules are?

Yeah, these rules took effect about two months ago in may, right after the end of the pandemic restrictions. You may remember that were known as title forty two. Under the new rules, there is one main legal pathway for seeking asylum.

If you're already at the border, it's a mobile APP called c bp one, and migrants can use IT to make appointments for interviews at the ports eventually, which is basically the first step toward asking for asylum and being released into the U. S. Officials say there are roughly forty thousand appointments per months available, barter wide.

But if you cross the border illegally without using the APP, IT is much harder to get asylum. The by the administration calling these common sense limits on asylum. And IT says there are a big reason why these illegal border crossing numbers are down so dramatically.

So what does this all mean for people who wanted seek asylum?

IT means a lot of waiting for those appointments. I was in nogales, mexico a few weeks ago when I met a migrant, namely, say, who had been waiting a month watching other migrants get appointments through the APP.

And he said he didn't feel good. No.

I feel bad because i'm alone.

he says. I feel vulnerable, sad and overwhelmed being here alone. I don't have anyone telling me it's going to be OK be patient. We will get .

an appointment to enter the you still.

they say, is decided it's Better to wait for an appointment than to cross illegally. And I think a lot of other migrants are making, you know, a similar calculation. Roughly one hundred thousand migrants are waiting in camps and cities near the southern border, according to A U. S.

Government estimate OK. So the administration is opening up new pathways to asylum. Why don't immigrant advocates like these new rules?

What they do, like the cvp one APP. But they say IT can't be the only way to access asylum at the border, because IT is creating a major bottle's ck, and people should be able to apply no matter how they crossed the border onto U. S.

soil. National immigrant rights groups basically filed their lawns suit the moment the new rules took effect. Those advocates say that these rules are all bit identical to a trumpet administration policy, and they're going back now to the same federal judge in oakland, california who found trumps policy illegal. They're asking him to block the by administrations rules as well. That judge is holding a hearing in the case today.

okay. So that's one side of the debate. But as we said, immigration hardliners who want more restrictions don't like these policies either. What the issue?

Yeah, the bind administration says the border crossing numbers are down, but immigration hardliners say that is just a shell game. They say the number of migrants crossing has not changed that dramatically, but that the administration is using the cvp one APP to say that these migrants are crossing legally now, creating a so called legal pathway.

In their view that congress never intended, republican LED states have several legal changes of their own going that are still working their way through the courts. One of those is related to go to trial in texas in August. The White house insists IT is on solid legal ground in all of these cases, but home land security specials also acknowledge that the legal fights over asylum are likely to continue unless congress can come up with a more durable solution. I think the chances of that are not looking very good at the moment.

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