183: Jake's Faves: This Show's Becoming Jackass (Re-Release)
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And we're back on a Wednesday. We are back, Jake. Really fast, Gareth. We are at the tail end of a three-hour block. Yeah. We're doing this intro and then we're done for the day. We've done a bunch of calls today. Yeah. I mean, really great calls. Great calls, great world building. We just are very lucky to have an audience that's

That knows the show and understands that we are here for Minutia and producers who are able to find this stuff constantly. Shout out to the producers. It's truly amazing. We text about it all the time. Jesse, Rob. The world building of season two has been really fun. The callers knowing the world.

The guy John who called in today with a problem also created the Piggly and Mo website. Shocking. Mr. H comes back. It's just like, it's really fun.

It really is, and it's always fun to try to problem solve these problems. So I don't know. You'd think in a three-hour block you'd be like, I still really enjoy recording the show. We are always laughing. So let's ask a favor to the audience.

So we have very consistent numbers. We know, I studied the numbers, I like it. I've made that very clear on this. The fun for this show to me is the interaction, the game of it. It feels very different, really fun. Can we, can the audience all tell somebody new about the show and have them start listening recently?

I want to see people's reaction when they enter this world. Well, maybe the thing to do is to say, why don't we try this? Why don't we say, try to convert a friend to a fan. Yes. And when you've got that conversion, just get a quick audio clip of them saying. The new person. The new person saying what they like. I love that. That's fun. And we'll start using some of those at the end of the show. And here's how we could maybe do it.

Send somebody a link to an episode you think they would like.

We could also say... It could be anyone. Yeah, I think a Gateway episode. What's a good Gateway episode? We can have the community weigh in on a good Gateway episode so we can start doing what you're talking about. And then negative or positive. Yeah, I agree. Let's enjoy it. If somebody... Now don't send them a Piggly and Moe. We've already covered this. We're not going to get involved in it. This week is a re-release.

Uh, the re-release is, if you guys remember, there was a woman who called in who was taking a, uh, a, uh, a class where she was learning how to be tied up and tie people up and she needed to lie to her, uh, boss. Yeah. She's a nanny. The reason I'm following up apart from it being a great episode is she's one of the examples of the kind of callers who I love the most on this show. Uh,

And it fits right into with what we were just talking about. She knows the world. She's in the joke. She's for no reason ragging on Garrett. Just murdering me. You'd think I was the one who was getting into tied up beatings. But...

It just proves that she gets the show. Loves you. But like whoever it is, they need to get on one of the bits. Well, you know what else I love about her and a lot of our colleagues is they will not placate us and take a pitch that they don't. They'll be like, no. Like they want the actual solve. And she's like that. She's like that. And she's really funny, has a really fun sense of humor. Yeah.

where we're instantly just playing a game that she and I are so connected, and we hate Gareth so much. I don't know how much of a game she was playing, but yes. It was a game, Gareth. She instantly stepped into the Pam role. She very quickly played ball. By the way, you agreed with that, that she was in the Pam role. The Pam role that I was saying was that she and I are into each other. You got confused and you agreed because Pam has admitted to you that she likes the responses. Let's start the show. No.

And she said, when I said I want to do a standing 6'9 with Pam, she laughed and said, has he seen me recently? She didn't say, yuck.

She said he wouldn't want to, to which I said, I have seen you gorgeous. When you pass away, Jake, we have to study your brain. There are ways that you hold on to little things that are just so, the way that you can take that thing that I thought was dead and zombie it back to life with a new twist. Shocking. It's not regular.

Just so you know. Thank you? Yeah, I do think it's a compliment. I'll be honest. I do think it's a compliment. It's a skill. You have a skill. Like the fact that you're not practicing law, that's a shame.

It's being wasted on a self-help podcast where we talk about bounce houses and graves that are getting digged up in yards. So, Gareth, if we ever get sued, can we represent us? I think there's no better way than for this show to go down by representing itself. I think so, too. And in the end, somebody, and then we, maybe we, you know, I've tried to do this with Lamorne Morris, and we text and we both say yes, but we've never done it. I want to go on people's court with him.

And I want to take it seriously and one of us sue the other one. Yes. That feels like maybe we could sue their podcast for slander. I 100% agree that we can and this should happen. And I don't think this should be a thing that when we're done, we don't follow through on. I love it. That would be amazing.

I'd say that is episode. It seems like this is a edit cut, but I just did a hard transition. Yeah, that's Jake saying we leave it here. Well, I was thinking about it for a while. I'm like, it's really because Garrett, Lamar, and I have been talking for a while. I tried to get Max, Damon, and I all to do it because the four of us are on a text chain. And I said, like, guys, let's go on the people's court and sue each other. And Greenfield was instantly out.

Lamorne's texting me Ben Pertzle being like, I would do it. Side texting. Yeah, side like, let's do it for real. And then Damon's a mystery. He doesn't text back. And then just texts like a heart emoji. Where we're like, I think he's in or he's out. But today we have Heather back. And then in going back and thinking about that one,

I thought, you know who else I want to highlight is my brother Dan, who was my original... Dan to me is the funniest guy on planet Earth, and he has been since I've been two years old. Your brother is hard funny. Oh, he's hard funny. He never stops. He came to Alaska and visited the movie because he and I, we financed the movie together, and my brother is a producer on it. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah.

He was so funny hanging out on set. He does a bit in the movie. He's one of those, he's one of the best types of humans where he walks into a group of new people and I just start going like, Dan, Dan. And all of a sudden the cast in Crazy Jokes starts just chanting Dan. He does a full dance, fully yucks it up.

fully commit. He wants to do a bit in the movie, so we get him one line. After his one line in the thing, he's going to Dakota and Joe like, actor to actor, Dakota. Talk to me. Where am I at? And he never breaks. We did this whole joke where he and I were fighting the whole time of if Salmon's season had already started or if we were too early. His claim was we're too early. My claim was, my hot take was that it already started. So

We just did that bit to every single person we met in Alaska. We would just make people interact with us. We would ask them. My brother and I are just in a bit world forever. And in the end, he sent a bunch of shirts that said salmon season as a wrap gift. It was like a Dan, you are the king. So I want to highlight Dan again. He is building a app right now for our show.

basically he does he's an app developer we were having fun about um a website where you can rank things and you can pick because he was listening to the show and he was like you guys need something where everybody can just go in one place so we've been doing that that's coming it's going to be called we need to pick.com it's not ready yet but i just want to highlight dan heather thank the community and gareth what do you got

I think that's true. Thank the community. Let's do the Gateway episodes. Let's hear some proof. Let's hear some conversion memos. We appreciate it. Truly, so much of the show is the fans and the colors. So that's really where it comes from. Yeah, I think that's it. Well, at some point you'll hear me lick the rim of my coffee mug, but until then, without further ado.

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And we are back. Wow, she's coming in hot. I'm a shark. Eric. Jake, this, I don't even know how to explain. We just finished this episode. And for me personally, it's insane. Yes, we got a special guest, our friend Heather from Orlando. What's up, Heather?

Hey, still doing good over here. Maybe. We got the shark in a Quincy shirt looking good. What's up, shark? What's up, guys? Feeling good, looking good. We got Gareth in a weird pink bedroom. What's up, Garf? Hey, Jake. This has all been so crazy. Classic Garf, man. It's Garf. And, you know, Heather, you're really jumping in a lot, Heather. I'm not going to lie. It's a lot. Okay.

I feel comfortable. You really do. It's kind of like we're like, do you want to come in? And then you're like laying in my bed like, this shit sucks. So we got a fun show today. Heather's going to be on it. She's one of the callers. And then she joined us for a follow-up, and we threw her in the intro. So you're going to love her call. It's really fun. After you hear her call. I'm doing all the ads. Ooh, should we do an ad with Heather? That's crazy. No, you're not doing an ad with Heather. Where's my cut?

heather you're fun heather do you want to talk about quincy clothes kevin's wearing quincy quotes quince quince my bed yeah they're my favorite yeah we love quince what do you think about zocdoc all i do is go on zocdoc and squarespace she's the and hello fresh she is well i don't think they're with us anymore yeah chef but thank you so much for trying really fast before we get out of here and start this great show gareth you texted us you had a dream last night

Heather, it's a lot. You're just right, Heather. Keep going. I had a dream that I went out to eat and that I... Well, Heather, so far, you're really amping it up. Okay, I'm not on camera, though, so I need them to remember I'm there. Okay.

That's fair. That's actually super fair. Yeah. You got Zoom? I went to... Wait, should we just Zoom her in? Get her on. No, you can't because of your job. So I had a dream. I went out to eat and I was at a restaurant and I sat at a table away from Barbara from Shark Tank, who, again, we've had some contact with. That's right. And as I was sitting there, I was like, should I say something? Should I not? And I just lean over and I go...

Hey, you know, we've been trying to get you on my podcast call. We're here to help, and she goes, with Jake Johnson.

And I go, yeah. And then I'm like, oh, yeah. And so we talked for a minute. And then as she's leaving, I'm like, I got to lock it down. So I go, hey, we'd really love to have you on the show. You know, and she goes to her husband. She goes, get his phone number. He answers all my calls. And I got his number. And I was like and then I was like in my head, I was like, what should I do? I was like, I think I'll just give the number to Kevin. I was like strategizing. I woke up and I was like, the show is really good.

Entering my world in a bizarre way. But by the way, man, I think that's getting us actually one step closer to the great Barbara Corcoran being on this show. I can't wait. I had a dream last night. I was standing on a pier in the middle of the ocean and it was a little platform and there was a big killer whale swimming around and the water was pretty clear and I was watching it and I wasn't scared. I just thought, what a beautiful creature. Did you throw your back out?

Jake, your dream sounds so much better than all of that crap we heard just now. Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado. Adieu. I'm right behind you. Great job, Heather. You're so funny. You're so funny. Really funny. Holy shit. All right, thank you. Hi, how are you? Good, how are you? Good, thanks.

Thanks for calling. We have Jake and Gareth and the shark with you today. Can I please ask what your name is, what your age is, and where you're calling from? Attaboy, shark. Well done, shark. Good work, Jake. I'm Heather, 25, Orlando. Great. Perfect. Heather and Orlando do go together. Am I wrong? No, you ain't wrong, Jake. You're right. Heather, what's up? What's the problemo? Okay, we got...

We got a complicated one. I really don't see an option, so I'd love some help. I told my boss that I signed up for a four-week cooking class so that I could be off work and go to a BDSM rope tying course. Wait. Say that again. I'm confused there. I know the cooking class. What is the course you're taking? It was a BDSM rope tying class. Oh. Okay. And wait.

And I didn't want to tell her where I was. So I told her I signed up for a cooking class with my friend. Now she's saying, can I get some of that chicken parm? And you're saying, can I tie your legs to a pole? Only if I can tie you to the wall and feed you it. Yeah. So let me get your dishes. You go like this. Well, all right, Heather. So what keep you keep talking, walk us through what's happening. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, um,

I every week we talk a lot at work on her nanny and the kids go to sleep and then we chat. And I just was making up stuff about the class. And she kept asking me, like, how's it going and stuff? He just had a new baby. So she's just home and she was really invested in it. So I just kept making up details. And now the class is over and her baby is doing well and she's ready to leave the house. She wants to go to the class with her husband. Holy shit.

I don't have a place to send her. And I can't let her find out I was lying because she'll think I'm a liar and I take care of her children. I got a pitch. I do too. Okay.

We are sponsored by... We are sponsored. Tie her up. Tie her and her husband up. You know how to do it. Put them in your dungeon. They have to die now. They have to die now. That's the end of it. No. We are sponsored on this show, I think still, but I know we have been in the past by Squarespace. Yes. Yep. Which means we could create a fake website for this cooking class. Mm-hmm.

That we could then say it has been cancelled so you could send her the link to it She could look at the link the link could look real We could maybe either have Caitlin or somebody one of our followers on here who's really good at designing a thing We can give him a shout out who could build a fake cooking class a four-week course everything that you said Yeah, make it seem very real send her the link and then she goes. Oh

Oh no, they just, they did the school just shut down. And then we can make up some funny reason why. They closed down Y. I guess the main woman was into like tying people up for sex. It was like a sex front. It was like a sex dungeon. And then you go, none of that was there when I was there, but I guess they also did this thing in the basement. They tied people up. And I mean, if you're interested in that, I could lead you towards that. But

But the real pitch is, you got to like that, Garf. I love it. Right. Okay. Keep going. My initial pitch was going to be something like that. It got shut down. So, all right. So we're creating the problem for her, right? Yes. We're creating the school. Okay. So we've created that via sponsor. Why not via sponsor? Why not also send them our home cooking sponsor?

So you can say, "And I know you really wanted to do that, so I actually got you and we can hook you up with like three free at-home meals that they can cook together." But here's the problem with it. But she wants to go to this cooking class. He wants to get out of the house. If the problem was she said, because that's the solution. She does it over at your house. She said, "Cook me a meal." She comes over to your house and you cook it together.

Yeah, but I think she's looking. Yeah, she's looking. So I think that would be the solution if she said, like, I want to hear I want to taste your great cooking. OK, I'm down. I think saying it got shut down. I just worry that she might go. I hear you. I just worry that she might be like, huh, this is a little suspect. But I OK, I wanted to mention she and her husband. Hold on, Gareth. You just said. Hold on, Gareth. You just said that because I should hold on.

No, I didn't. We've done over 100 episodes. You've never had a little bit of a pessimistic, I don't know if it'll work. Yours, I said, I don't think it'll work. You go, hey, I gotta say, I don't think yours would work. They might be suspicious. We pitch hobos and Santa outfits. One time. One time.

No, I just... You just fought fire with fire. You 70s bushed my 70s bush. The last thing you want is for her to be like, I don't think this class existed. I agree. Because then it becomes crazy. If we really start going down that road, Gareth, we don't have a show. Everything we pitch could be that way. Well, the stakes are high because it's her boss. I agree. I hear you. I hear you. I like to pitch. So we got that. Let's put that to the side. Let's see if we can pitch something that tops it then.

Okay, well, what were you going to say, Heather? What you were saying, your fear? Oh, I wanted to say they're very intelligent people.

Same with us. It's going to be a problem for our show. We're screwed. Have you ever considered Parmesan in the floor? Yeah, what if you throw something in her car? I'm a shark. Okay, they're very intelligent people. Throw dog shit in her house. Why don't you put some dog shit in her bed? Cut eye holes in an eye mask.

Start flossing in her living room.

- Really smart people. - Get her tickets to an ostrich farm. - As the people we're messing with is the real kryptonite of our show. - By the way, we need to have an IQ cutoff for our pitches. - So I've got a problem. What is it? The person I'm trying to mess with is really smart. Cut it, Kevin. - Not by our shortest episode. - Take care. The show's over. - So let's get back to this and see if we can get a win. Heather, you are a nanny. You like your job.

Question. Why didn't you just say what you were doing? What's wrong with the... Because I've only worked here for like four months at the time. Yeah, you didn't want to be judged. And that's just too personal. Yeah, I get you. I didn't want her to be like, what? You know? Yeah. And then I also didn't want her to be like, well, don't do that. Just come to work. I agree. Okay, I hear what you're saying. Now, this is just for the show and backstory. Do you like to tie up or do you like to be tied up?

I knew you were going to ask me that. I wanted to be tied up, but I went with a friend and we kind of had to take turns because we both wanted to be tied up. And so when you go to a class like that, what are you then learning? Or are you just going there to be like, I'll volunteer?

No, we were partners. So, and I told her the cooking class, you had to have a partner. And I was like, if I don't go, they're going to kick my friend out. So I got to go. So they were teaching us specific ties each week. And then they got more complicated each week. Was the, did the instructor have a ponytail and was he wearing Tevas? Did you say yes?

They were two females and one never met. Okay. If there's a female with a ponytail, she's cool. Did you feel like a guy in Tevas with a ponytail with a some version of a tattoo that wrapped around one of his arms and a bracelet and sun soaked from that Orlando sun? The ponytail is the body's first rope. God gave us all a rope.

But now Heather Orlando, 25, we've got one pitch so far. And that is we create a fake website about this cooking class. We make it very real. We pitch it with you until you're happy with it. When you and us, and as a community, we'll do a follow-up where we will, we can show it to people on our, maybe on the Instagram or whatever, uh,

We can build it really with the Patreon community because they've been really kind of hands-on to make it as real as possible. When we feel it's bulletproof, you send her a link to it. Okay. When you hear that, what do you think? It's a big risk. If you get caught, you've lost your job.

- That's what I'm worried about because, okay, if she finds out, I mean, at this point, she wouldn't be mad about what I really did. She would be mad about the 1000 lies I made up and told her. - To get it, yeah. - So I am in deep.

You know, I think the website is the only way out. Okay. So you feel right now, just to be clear with what you said, because I got a little turnaround in there. If you said to her right now, I didn't go to the cooking class. I went to a rope tying class because I wanted to get tied up. You feel like she would not trust you anymore and you would lose your job.

She would say, so why did you tell him? I mean, I made up so much stuff about this class. That's what you mean by the thousand lies. Okay. So you've now talked, you're going to die by a thousand little cuts. It's really your options are fully come clean or get filthy.

yeah and i think you're probably right that it's probably better to just go big where did you leave it with her like when she suggested this what did you say you were like oh yeah i'll hook you up at first i was like yeah i'll send you the link and then i thought maybe she won't ask again she asked again and i said you know what my friend booked it i'll have to get it from her

And then she didn't ask for like a week. So I thought I was in the clear, but then last, today's Monday, last Thursday, she said like, you know, my doctor says I'm ready to go and leave the house. And that cookie class sounded like so much fun.

So we got to move fast. If we're going to do this, we got to move because it will become weird. I would. Yeah, it's right at the line. I know. Because if I if somebody tells me they've done something and I ask, I go, hey, could you hook me up with that? And they go, yeah. And it doesn't happen. I'm now starting to go. Why? Yeah. Why are you being controlling of a cooking class? You fucking weirdo. You're so weird. OK, so so let's just talk real quick. So we're going to put this. I have an idea.

What? This is not the pre- No, this is not the- Okay. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. It could help. What do you got? Jesus. Jesus. We say that the cooking class is like a traveling cooking class, and I didn't know, but it was only in Orlando that one time. So then the website is sort of reflecting that, or are you saying no website? Or are you saying no website?

Well, yeah. I think website can reflect it. That'd be fun. Yeah. I would lean towards that. Yeah, the website would reflect like going to Atlanta. Yeah. August 2024, Atlanta. Here's my fear of that, guys. Here's my fear of that. I'll go to Atlanta.

Well, it's not Atlanta. No, she's not going to Atlanta. She has two babies. Okay, you're right. So, Shark, how long would it take to actually get this website going? Are we close to done? We can talk to Caitlin today. Yeah, we can do it today or tomorrow. Yeah. Okay, so if we had today's Monday, Heather, if we had something to you by Wednesday, would you send it to her if you approve the look of it right away? Sure. Sure.

Okay. What do you think of this as a real solution? I would need to, I guess, tell you all the details that I told her. Yeah. You could put that in an email. Email to us. Caitlin and I can put it in the site and you can give us notes too. If you're like, change this, this doesn't make sense. Let us know.

Okay. I on there would put like almost like tour dates, like a list of cities where this is going to be. And the thing that you stand ups do like sold out. So you put a date and then you put the red box around it that says tickets moving fast. Yes. I would do that. Yeah. Heather, are you into this?

Yes, but I'm not on Patreon. No, you don't have to be. No, no, you have to join. Yeah, actually, join the Patreon. Join. What are you doing, Heather? Okay, I'll just have to join because I want to see what people say. You're tying sailor knots around people's wrists. You don't have time to join. Wow.

Wow. This is tough to hear. This is tough to hear. Well, now this is important to me. On the Patreon, too, we tie people up. I would say 60% of our stuff is knots. Yeah, it's all knots. It's like a sailing class. It's like more. Yeah. It's like 85% tying people up. Heather, we're going to go. But this is something I really think could work. Make sure, obviously, you don't need to hear it from two guys over 43 years old.

I made you a little younger, Gareth. What? No, you're actually right. Do not send this and give notes. Don't just say yes until you are 100% confident with this website. Because we can make it bulletproof. And I really believe this is going to work. She's going to get it. She's going to look at the website. We're going to have all your details. And then she's going to go like, ah, too bad.

It's not here anymore and they're canceling a lot of stuff, they've moved and then you go like, "Oh, that sucks." Then right away you go, "Let's find something else for you."

Actually, I would even suggest that you maybe have a cooking class that you've researched in the Orlando area. And so you can say, how about this instead? Send this link and go, I don't think she's here anymore. She travels a lot. But here's one that my friend also recommended. And also, why does it take four weeks to learn how to get tied up? Yeah, what's going on? It was a once a week for four weeks. Oh.

So why did you have to miss work once a day for it? Once a week. I got you. Because I was thinking 30 straight days of somebody going like this and that's how you get tied up. I'm like, after the fifth day, I'm thinking, I know how to get tied up. Yeah, I agree. I get it. Now I feel like it is 25 days not to work. Heather, thank you for the call. Oh yeah, I didn't take a month off. Thank you guys. Let us know because we want to do it right. Okay, bye. Bye.

Hello. Hi, welcome to the show. We're here to help. Can we get your name, please? Hi, my name is Sarah. Hey, Sarah. And where are you calling from, Sarah?

I am calling from central Kansas. And have a lot of people told you, you have a very pleasant voice in your life. Is that a reoccurring theme? You know what? Someone once told me that I would make a great like voiceover for a cartoon character. I believe that. I believe that person was really smart. So I've got some sad news and then some personal, very happy.

Okay, I'd love to hear it. The sad news is Gareth is doing a live show in Alaska. He couldn't make it, but it's truly not his fault. We pulled this off last minute, so he wishes he could be here. But the personal good news is

We've replaced him tonight with my older brother, my BFF, Mr. Dan Johnson. It's true, Sarah. I'm here for you. I'm here, Sarah. The man who, when I first got on television, Sarah, as the character Nick Miller of New Girl, we were at a bar together in Chicago called Old Town. True story.

Dan stood up and yelled, I'm Chris Miller, Nick Miller's older brother. And I actually did go to law school. And then later that night, and then we're going to get to you. I, uh, they asked me to get up on stage at the great second city. Hell yeah. To do an improv thing. And it was a, a friend of mine. I think it might've been Bungroff who said, uh,

uh it was wild man he goes you got up there your brother heckled you from the first moment until the end a true brother yeah so sarah you're in for a treat uh so you also got the shark of course hi so the floor is yours please please tell us what is going on and we will do our best to uh get you out of this situation

Awesome. Well, thank you so much. So the situation is I have a sister who invites herself to all of our family's guy functions. So I'm talking Father's Day at the local cigar lounge. I'm talking going down to a bar downtown with my dad, husband and brother-in-laws. And understandably, it drives my husband crazy.

Yes. So Sarah, is it, so is it your sister? My sister. Yep. Goes with your husband. Yeah. Her boy's name. And it doesn't matter what the occasion is. She tags her. She just invites herself along and she shows up. And who are the, in terms of the boy's night, who is it? It's your husband.

Yep. So it's my husband, my dad, and then my sister's husband, so my brother-in-law. And then I have another sister and another brother-in-law. So it's the four guys and then her. Understood. But it's not like you and me, Dan. It's not like...

It's not like your husband and his brother are like, I can't believe my wife's sister showed up. It's a husband, a brother-in-law, a brother-in-law, a father. So she's going to her husband's guy's night out. Yes. Yeah. Wait, so your dad had three daughters, right?

Yes, he did. So, oh, I get it now. So it's him with his three son-in-laws. That's correct. Yeah. And he's going like, hey, look at this. I didn't have, I got three guys that are having cigars and then one of his daughters is there. Right.

Exactly. Okay. So more than the husband, because the in-laws, the husbands, they don't matter. This is a father daughter. A hundred percent. What is that? What is, what are we calling your sister?

um amber rachel rachel that's that's me and dan says that our sister let's just call her rachel so what does your dad feel about amber crashing these

So to be honest, he's not saying anything. He's never made a feed to me or anybody else. It's just my husband. He's like, why is she coming? Well, what is Amber's husband's fake name? So we're going to go with Chris. Chris. And what does Chris say to your husband about it? Yeah, that's right.

That's a good question. I guess I haven't explored that. It's very hard to get them away from each other. They're very close. They're very codependent.

Yes, they are. Like they met in high school. They were 16 years old, high school sweetheart. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Amber. Dan is married to his high school sweetheart. Take it easy. I'm getting a little, a little defensive, Sarah. You take it easy. You take it easy. There is nothing wrong with that. I mean, look, I just came from a guy's night out. And of course Kelly was there. I just don't see what the problem is, Sarah. Right. Okay.

But so they're always together. They're always together. So it's very hard to talk with one without the other there. And how would you describe Amber in the group of sisters growing up? Was she in the middle of it? Was she the baby? Was she the baby? Was she the middle? Was she the oldest? Where's she at in the group? What's her vibe? Yeah. So she's the middle child and she, I'm,

I love my sister. I love my sister, but I would describe her as she's very stubborn, very selfish, whereas me and my youngest are more like-minded and that we're more people-pleasing, whereas she really, really doesn't care what people think. But we're all three very tight, all very close. Okay. So...

your husband says at these guys night does amber ruin the vibe or is she just there she ruins the vibe absolutely she's she's loud she's a talker she speaks her mind um so yeah she makes her presence known for sure i've got a i've got my first pitch you're ready for a pitch i think so i love it

I think your husband needs to set up a The Next Guy's Night at a place like a men's spa. Where...

The only way you walk in, it's like if you go to an old golf club where you're like, the locker room has a bar. You go like, I'm sorry, Amber. We would love to smoke cigars with you and talk wives. But in this specific place, it's unbelievable. It's guys only. There's a sign on the door. I love that.

I think. Go ahead, Dan. No, finish up. Finish up. Well, I think there's something to that now. It's not going to be easy to get Chris on board with that. This is my point. This is my point. I think you're shooting early. And I'll tell you why. Well, I mean, if you want to add. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. No, no. There's more to learn.

Okay, so I do want to say, so like I said, I have a good relationship with her. I feel like I can come to her. I did talk to her this year, like approaching Father's Day, because that's one that she always tags along to. And I just said, yeah.

I tried a couple of different things. I said, Hey, let's ask girls do something fun while the guys are getting together in which she responds. Oh no, I like cigars or I like drinks. So I want to be there too. I don't want to miss out. I've offered to watch her kids. So she has the opportunity to go do something for herself. And she responds, she responds, Oh, well, if you watch my kids, then I can just go be with the guys. That would be great. So then finally I just,

said, and I'm passive and nice, so I said it through a text. Midwesternist. I said, hey, um,

My husband doesn't appreciate it when you come to guys night. Set up and delivery was different. It would be okay if you didn't come. Damn. By the way, I said this nice and passive because I'm from the Midwest. I texted, hey bitch, no one likes you. You're a piece of shit. I've always way bonded more with my youngest sister because you're the C word. You literally ruined our family.

Bunny ears. I put Vaseline on my face. I got to say, Sarah, that's... So you said, but by the way, Sarah, I think you made a big mistake. I think you made a big mistake. You blamed him. Yeah, that's tough. What was the reaction? What was the reaction?

So the reaction was, she said, I understand completely, exclamation point, smiley face. And then you know what happened? What? She went again? Neither of them came. So my brother-in-law didn't come. Yeah. So I was like, well, now I'm at a loss. I feel like I've tried different options. They haven't worked.

So that's where it's at right now. Right now, Chris and Amber no longer go to the guys' night. Does your dad and the two other guys, do they still do it? Or is it now like got a weird stink to it? They still do it, but they miss him. They would like for him to tag along, but they do still get together. Poor Chris. Yeah. I know. Poor Chris. Looking out the window. Do-de-doo.

I wonder what the guys are doing. Probably smoking a My Father. And do you think, Sarah, from your point of view, Chris wants to be back out there with the guys? I do. I will say that in general, I'm...

He doesn't have a closeness to our family as the other two brother-in-laws do. I would say my younger sister's husband and my husband, they really truly are like family in that they gel so perfectly. But I would say the middle... Yeah, they don't come near as much family functions as the others do. Let me throw something out there. Let me throw something out there.

This might be right. This might be wrong. I just got a gut feeling. This is, this is going to be a swing and a miss, but I love the ambition. I don't think so. I don't think so. It's all right. I think Chris, Chris is asking Amber to come. Yeah. I think he's saying, I don't feel close to these guys. Yeah. It's your family.

It's not my dad. It's your dad. I don't feel like these two other guys are like, Hey dad. Hey dad. And I'm like, you have a dad, you little bitches. Stop acting like you're part of their family. You guess what? You get divorced. You're out. He's like, they're weird. They're weird. They're acting like he's our daddy too. You're a grown man. Right. He's like, but I gotta go because they're nice. They're inviting me. Yeah. Come with him. I like you. Yeah. I,

So if you come, it's fun. You're fun. Yeah. I've liked you since I was 16. All I want is Amber. What I don't want is Amber's D-bag brother-in-law-in-law. And brother-in-law. And these Tweedledee and Tweedledum being like, yes, daddy. Yes, daddy. Can I get in the inheritance? Guess what? The truth is...

Chris and your husband, they're not brothers. They're not brothers-in-law. They're just two dudes. Nothing. Yes. They're nothing.

Chris hates your husband, Amber. By the way, Dan, let's rewind. This will be a swing and a miss to... He hates your husband. Guess what? How fast the winds turn for old DJ. Yeah, guess what, Jake? You were ambitious, but that time you connected, that ball sailed out of the stadium. Thank you. Because you sniffed it out. It's all Amber's husband. Because that's what I'm thinking. Because I'll tell you what, and tell us if we're wrong, Sarah. We're not. But...

But Amber, when you say things like, you could just, I'll babysit your kids and you can go do anything. Everybody in the world wants a night off. Yeah.

But she's going, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to hang out with my dad, your husband, my other sister's husband, and go smoke cigars because I love cigars so much. Because Chris has told her, I don't know how to say no to these guys. I can't spend another Friday night with these goobers talking about the tile company. Help me, Amber. I can see it. You can? Yeah, I really can now that you're talking through this.

Is this true? Yeah, of course it is. I mean, I can't confirm, obviously, but as you're saying it, it's absolutely a possibility. And so maybe Amber's swallowing the grenade. So what you can do is.

is on these guys' nights, you can turn it into a family night and the guys can do their thing. But Chris is allowed to hang back with Amber and you. Like if you guys all go do something and then there's a part where your dad goes like, "Hey, me and the guys are gonna go watch me hit golf balls." - Wait, his father- - And his two sons- - Wait a minute, Jake. - What? - Sarah's father is not Chris Elliott.

all right i'm sorry sam sam yeah yeah chris elliott's a very different read i know i'm not an impression guy but that was not chris no no no no sarah we got anywhere near your dad

My dad is like a teddy bear, like so friendly, so inviting, so welcoming, just a total sweetheart. So I don't know what character that plays after, but that's him. So his vibe, so does your dad like golf?

No. What do the guys do? Just smoke cigars in a hot, dark room? Usually drink or cigars. Yeah, those are kind of alcohol. Are you related to my family? Yeah. We might be. Because I got to tell you, I got to tell you honestly, if I'm Chris, I'm going, I can't do it. No. I can't sit in. I know my brother Dan can't do it either. He couldn't even hang out in a casino because of the smoke. It's repulsive.

So it's repulsive. It's disgusting. So who wants that? So he might with you. I don't like it either. So let me, I got it. Here comes a truck. Let me put my face over the exhaust and then we'll talk about, you know, football. It's stupid. It's just dumb.

Kevin's a cigar man. There's a big humidor from Jake right behind me. I listen to every episode. I know that that was gifted to you. Yes, it was. It says the shark on it. So I love that. Sarah, we still got to help you though.

Yeah, I do. Will you phrase, I know this is too late in the game to do it, but will you phrase your problem in a question just so we could see if there's a way out of this? Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Now that we've talked, I'm feeling a little less helpful, but my question. Hey, we're here to help. Thank you.

Stomped out your hope, huh? Mission accomplished. You literally just said, after talking about it, I'm less hopeful on a fucking podcast called We're Here to Help. This is the epitome of a failed premise. Guess what? I think Gareth might be better at this than I am. You know what we're missing? Just some jokes. Just some jokes where we go, we didn't help at all, but they felt more positive. Yeah.

You guys have given me great insight that I did not have before. I feel like that is extremely helpful. Okay. All right. So phrase it in the question, if you don't mind. Yes. The original question was, and maybe we need to change this, but how can I get my brother-in-law to come to guys night without my sister tagging along? Right. But the new question would be,

I'm asking. The new question would be, why did I call in? How do I get off this call? Because you're making me hate things. I don't want to hurt their feelings, but this was a fail for me. No. Okay. So I have an idea. Okay. You tell Chris that,

the next guy's night that you're throwing Amber a surprise party for just the girls. Ooh.

Oh, I love that. Right. You say this. Oh, that's really good. And then it's all the girls and she's like, what is this? And we're like, yeah. And you're just fucking celebrating Amber. It's Am's night with a drink and the nails and all the stuff Am's loves. And she's like, what is this? And we go, you go, honestly, this is just because we like you and we want a night with you.

Oh, I love that. And honestly, that fits so well with me and my sisters. Like that would not be weird for us to do that. And then you could also say after that, the next one, you guys surprise me. So she's like, it's not just to get me away. You go like, we're trading a new thing where we're like passing on the surprise. So now Amber, or you say the next sister, now you're planning the next one, right?

What I like about this plan the most is that... You're going to shit on it, and we are about to win. No, no, no. What I like about it is what should happen is you're forcing Chris to go to guys' nights he hates, and he shouldn't, because it's good for him. Yeah. It's good. He should. Grow up, Chris.

Enjoy it. You're all over the place. He has been in our family way longer than anybody else because they've been together for like 16 years. Yeah, your dad's great. Suck it up, Chris. He could find a fun night and hang out. Yes, he can. I think so too. But really what we're doing is, because you can't control Chris, Sarah.

But you can control your sister because you did it most of her life. Yep, it's true. As for her older sister, that is absolutely on point. Oh, I could tell.

And you have been puppeteering that little girl as much as you can. And now she's breaking free. So let's pull some goddamn strings. And the strings you're going to pull is the next one that your husband is figuring out with your dad and the guys. And he could be talking to Chris and the other guy about, we're going to surprise, you know, dad, and we're going to take dad to some cars and drinks and just do a night. And then he could say you, he doesn't say anything to Chris.

then you guys reach out to her and say, we need you to come do this thing for us. Or you pull Amber in and it's a surprise for the other sister. So she's helping you throw the other sister to make it not all seem about Amber getting away from guys night. Okay. Right. So you got two paths. One could be Amber's helping you plan this.

And it's like, we're just going to do a night for her. Let's just have fun. We don't do this as sisters and mom enough. Is mom still around? Yeah. Yeah. We're all very close. And then say there. No. How about this? Go there doing a surprise for dad. So let's do a surprise for mom. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's kind of sweet. Right. Because if it's just about Amber, she might see through it, but be like, will you help us do this? Let's give mom a great night. Yeah. Yeah.

I love that plan. And you should do. You guys did it. Thanks for saying you guys, not my brother, Dan. What? By the way, while I was saying it, Sarah, my brother was just shaking his head, waiting to go. Nope. Yeah. Look, I'm a guest, so I'm supposed to be polite. Great idea, guys. Yeah.

So, Sarah, what do you think you're going to do here? You think you're going to do that? Oh, absolutely. I love the idea of kind of putting it on the parents because then us as sisters can kind of gather together to plan it. And then the guys can gather together to plan something for my dad. Yes, I think that's right.

I think it will work really nicely. And then you just need to get Amber in on the planning so that, and never blame it on your husband. If about her not coming. I think that's going to create, that'll be just a shit zone for him. And then he and Chris have to deal with it. Then if she gets mad at him, it's just like, come on. Yeah. Yeah.

And it's tricky. So now we rarely do this, Sarah, but we're about to get off the phone. But simply because my brother Dan was on, could you do something and pretend you're texting it so you're more honest?

Could you give each of us a grade one through 10 via text? You're just saying, you're a mean spirited. I'm the grandma from the other call. So now Kevin, for example, keep in mind, he produced this. He called, he got you on. This was a call about siblings. So I just want you to think of that. So go ahead. Your first one would maybe be Kevin out of 10. He did put this together. It did work out nicely. Go ahead.

10 out of 10. Wow. Great. Congrats. Now, how about me? What did you think? And you could be honest. 10 out of 10. I thank you so much. That means the world to me. And now how about Dan? 7 out of 10. Thank you so much for the call. Real Midwestern nice. Thank you for the call, Sarah. Thank you, Sarah. Bye. All the best. Thanks for nothing. Thank you. Thanks, Sarah.

Hello, caller, can you hear us? Yeah.

Hi, this is the shark producer, Kevin. I got Jake with me. Gareth is probably in this. He's MIA straight up. He's MIA. Yeah, he was supposed to be with us and he's missing. But we're happy to have you. I'm happy to be here. Thank you. So Jake doesn't know who this is. I obviously do. Can you remind Jake and the listeners who you are and what your first call was about?

Yes, but Jake, do you really not know? Because sometimes I don't believe it. I really don't know. Oh, okay. I'm Heather from Orlando. I went to the cooking class. Oh, yes. Heather, how's the website? I was doing those emails with you guys a little bit and then I fell off. Oh, I didn't know you were on the email. Yeah, I was first writing with you and Caitlin a little bit. So tell me what's going on.

So the website turned out great. I joined the Patreon and people on the Patreon, yeah, were like giving feedback and helping Caitlin with it. The Patreon's fun. I'm not gonna lie. It's a good community. Yeah, it is. It is. I'm glad I'm on there. So I sent it to my boss Tuesday night and we recorded Monday afternoon. No way. Oh, the website looks so good.

Oh my God. Okay. The Friendly Shark, making food that will make you say, mmm. So shout out to Caitlin for making this site, Heather. We're looking at it right now. It's thefriendlyshark.squarespace.com. Caitlin made this look incredible and it looks so legit. Yes, it does. What people are saying is really good, how it works. There's a bunch of testimonials found.

And like how it works set up. And I'm pretty sure these photos are from listeners that sent us photos of like their own foods. First of all, shout out to the Patreon and everybody in that community who helped with this. And Caitlin, this looks so good. So if you're listening, check it out on YouTube just to see this right now. It's very good.

And then, sorry, I'm kind of scrambling everything. Heather, can you remind the listeners really quick what your call was about? Kevin, this will be in the same episode, right? Oh, that's true. That's true. All right. So just for that. Yeah, we'll play it. We'll play it right after. We'll go back to back. So Heather, your boss saw this and what happened?

Okay, so I'm embarrassed because I rewatched our call before calling in now, and I was saying, like, we got to be careful, guys. She's really smart. The reveal is your boss is not very smart. She is. You work for a very dumb individual. She goes like this, sounds good, bye.

She said, like, this isn't the right website. She was like, this one's in Nashville. And I guess she closed it. And I said, oh, let me look at it. And then I was like, oh, you just have to scroll down. It was in Orlando. And I kind of had to explain it to her. Like, looks like it's a traveling cooking class. Looks like you missed it. Mm-hmm.

Oh, and she was like, "This says friendly sharks?" That was the first thing she said.

She's like, why would it be called Friendly Sharks? And you go, honestly, I have no idea. We're seeing the text right now. I'm putting up that screenshot, Heather, where your boss says, it says Friendly Sharks question mark. And you say, I think that's just the company title, LOL. Your boss says, I don't think that is the right website. It just says it's in Nashville.

And then you say, oh shit, let me take a look. - You know, this sums up our show. We put so much effort in and the person goes, what the hell is happening? It is the friendly sharks in Nashville. And then you just go, anyway, nevermind. And she goes, forgot to ask, this was stupid. And you go, all right, it's a victory for the podcast. - Well, I sent her one that's in Orlando and she said like- - Wait, not from the friendly sharks.

You sent her a different one? Afterwards, I sent her like, well, maybe you could go to this one. Wait a second, Heather. You're talking about a whole different website for a cooking class? No, no, no. So after this, after I sent her this website, and we're like, oh, darn, you missed it. Don't worry. Oh, I understand. You should go to this one.

Oh, I get it. So the one you took was friendly sharks. So that's now done. She can't do friendly sharks. But you said, hey, do this other one. And she was like, sounds fun. I'm kind of interested. So your problem has been 100% solved. Yes. Heather, this is a massive win for the show. Well, I wanted to point out, it was the first pitch. Yes. Yeah.

Well, sometimes you hit a home run on the first pitch. You don't need to see seven always.

Yeah. So that, I mean, good job. Thank you. I couldn't have done this on my own. I am sad the Garf isn't here for this victory. It is confusing. We'll tell him definitely in an intro. It is confusing. Confusing is not the right word. Sometimes, look it. Heather, I'm getting a phone call right now from one Gareth Reynolds. I'm switching to speakerphone. Tell me it's too late. Gareth, we're doing the follow-up with the cooking website. Hey, it's Heather.

Can you hear me? Can you hear me? I thought Jake said he couldn't do it. Yeah, he's on. We've been texting, Gareth. What the fuck? Get on. Go to the email and join the Zoom. We're doing the follow-up right now with the BDSM person who we gave the cooking class to. All right, one second.

Okay, he's going to join right now. Hey, Heather. Are we going to start all over? Yeah, pretend it went bad. Pretend it went bad. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Let's just bullshit a little bit. We'll have a couple minutes of fun and then we'll get out with a victory. Heather, you lost your job. Yeah, tell Gareth you lost your job. Oh, yeah, I'm in. But...

Congratulations, this is amazing. - It's so funny. - So funny. - Congratulations to you. - Thank you. - What I was gonna say was it's so deceit, not deceiving, but we often warm up and get to like the home run, like around the seventh inning. It is really funny when you did it with Cat Fundraiser too, where it was like first one, grand slam, second one, grand slam. And it's like, Jesus Christ. - Yeah, yeah. - It rarely happens. That's why we get so excited and build a website and then do a follow up on the day after, two days after.

It's hard to get a victory. Well, so this is good for you, Heather. This is a nice, clean, it's now over and you're moving on and now you're just locking more into tying people up or getting yourself tied up, correct?

Of course, yeah. It sounds like a really nice plan. You don't have to deal with the boss anymore and now you get to have a little bit of fun and keep your job. It is funny how many of our calls can end with, I don't know, I think if we just make a really good website, people will believe it.

Well, yeah, I didn't know if you guys were going to be like, maybe you guys know how you've been doing the fake TikTok that we'll send to an old person. I thought you were going to be like, so we just heard that cooking classes are racist now. No one should go to them. All right, Gareth's joining now. That would have been a fun way of doing it. The show's insane.

Yeah, but I will say before, and we will fully get in, you haven't finished perming your hair?

We're midway through a perm. So, Garrett, you chasing these new hairstyles. This one's insane. This is not. What are you? I was just hanging out. No, you're not. You said you couldn't do 430. I know, but then we texted. Kevin kept saying he's got something. So then I said, I'll do whenever. Garrett said, you good for five? I said, I'll jump in at five. We can just do some ads. We finished the ads. He said,

weird. Then he said this went on, but just as a heads up and we can trim this part out. This is Heather from the cooking class that she showed her boss and Caitlin made a truly great website. Okay. So it's not on the website. So the website and the pitch we've already established was a good move. Okay. But Heather, the floor is yours.

I'm sorry. It's kind of hard to joke around. That's what I didn't mean anything by that to start. I just wanted Gareth not to come in here and have a tone that he didn't know because his hair is very different. And that threw me. So I apologize. Jake, Jake, Jake, you live in a shanty near a fake locker room with a tackle dug. It's the website was fine. Like,

Like I said, my boss is really smart and she did kind of see through it. Yeah.

It's not Caitlin or the patrons fault. No, it's truly your fault. It's not your fault. Like I shouldn't have messed around with this in the first place. I'm the one that kind of chose to lie in the first place to her. But hold on Heather. Maybe there's a way that we could pitch that we could write a letter or do something from our end where we honestly guys, I think you've done enough. All right. Okay. No, no.

No. Yes, Heather, your performance was excellent. He just sniffed it. But Heather, holy cow, the Academy Award goes to you. Heather, you were great. Thank you. You were great. No doubt you were great. I'm just not going to. No script. You were excellent. You were great. You were great.

It's just, this show has become jackass. This is now, nothing is okay. Everything's crazy. How did you know that, Darren? And I knew there was no way, huh? Was it me? Was I too excited? It would just be very, yes. And it would be very strange to be like, jump on, let's go.

You're right. Anyway, Heather, tell us about how your life imploded. Yeah, you're right. I mean, I will say we had a good plan. Your look was surprising. She was great. She was great. I thought her performance was so good and I was all over the place because I wouldn't have been laughing. Yeah. I did more of you guys than I used to act. I blew it. Jake, Jake.

You were, you really, you could have just, yeah. You should, when I jumped on, you should have been like, this is what you should have done. Okay. Gareth, you look crazy, but I honestly, I wish I could get into that, but we're actually talking to Heather who has a pretty difficult update. Oh, and stop really fast. Let's role play. I'm going to come on and you be Jake. Let's run it again. Heather, you run. How do I turn my screen off really fast? I'm going to hit bottom left. Stop video on the bottom left. Hit end chat. I'm not even going to do that because I'm going to end up hanging up. I'm going to do this. Okay, great. Nice. Okay, ready?

So, Heather and Gareth, you guys are forming the plan? I just don't even know what to say to you in this situation. Oh, hey, Jake. Yeah. Jake, look. So, okay. I don't even... This is actually really strange that you just jumped on mid-call. Your hair looks fine. It doesn't really bother me that... Okay. Um...

Go ahead. Can we just focus up here? Yeah, absolutely. So, Heather, you remember Heather Jake? We made the fake website for her because she made up the cooking class for her boss. I'm sorry to interrupt. It's like every word out of your fucking mouth stabs me in the heart a little more. I know, I know. We're not going to air this. We're not going to use this. I mean, we just really want to say sorry. Okay.

You know, it's a shame. I mean, yeah, sorry he's not gonna pay my rent, but sure. Well, how about this? How about this? What we can do is we can, and Jake, I'll bring you up to date after this, but what we can do is... I have Venmo. No, no, hold on. What we can do is after the show, let's, like, we can easily start a GoFundMe for you. I honestly will give you my part of the Patreon. We've been working our asses off on that. I bet Jake would, too. You know, we could just definitely, like, try to set you up. No, no, no, no, no, no.

You know, I know Jake doesn't care about that. - I call bullshit. I call bullshit. I call bullshit. Basically, so. - What? Why? - Because you did a very good job. - Jake. - You guys know what you should do? You should clip this and be like, "Next time on, we're here to help." - That's fun. - And then it's me crying. - Jesus, are you like the third member of this? - She's good. She's very talented. - Heather's gonna take me out of a job. - You have to bring Heather out.

Heather, you might have just turned into another Connor. We might have to bring you on for a call at some point. Oh my God, yes. Because your acting is really good. You know what we could really do is bring Heather in if we ever need like a... A ringer. A ringer, like we're doing something coming in.

So that time, I love that you made an acting choice. You decided to get nasty with it. You didn't repeat. It was very good. Gareth, you were great, too. I think what we learned is I screwed up the first one. I got excited seeing you, Garf. We did the ads without you. Shark was great. Shark was great. I can only imagine the amount of shrapnel I took on the ads. Did you do an intro without me? Gareth, we didn't mention you. Okay. Well, that hurts, too, honestly.

uh heather i did the intro so wait what happened what is the actual i have a real i have the update it went great it worked it's a big win for us let's do something funny let's do something funny it's just happened so this this call's over gareth it's a big win we won big what if we stop right now and do an intro for this episode and heather's in the intro

Please, I will pass away. Okay, so everybody, so this will then be the end of this episode and we can leave this in so that when they have heard it all. So everybody, thanks for listening to this fun episode and then get ready because you've already heard the intro. Goodbye, everybody.

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