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Jane Koston: 我认为特朗普家族正在全力投入加密货币,但我不清楚他们是如何从中赚钱的。我了解到特朗普媒体科技集团宣布将筹集超过20亿美元投资比特币,而特朗普是该公司的最大股东。此外,特朗普家族还通过meme币和World Liberty Financial等加密货币项目获利。我认为特朗普及其家族正在利用加密货币尽可能多地赚钱,这引发了人们对潜在利益冲突的担忧。 Allison Morrow: 我认为特朗普家族似乎指望加密货币的复杂性来掩盖他们的敛财行为。他们至少有四个加密货币投资项目,包括加密货币交易平台、比特币挖矿平台以及将数字媒体公司转变为比特币控股公司。我认为他们通过meme币的交易手续费获利,无论资产价值涨跌。此外,我还了解到特朗普政府对孙宇晨非常有利,他得以首次进入美国而不用担心因加密货币欺诈被捕。我认为加密货币的规模几乎是无限的,难以追踪资金来源,这使得它成为一种有吸引力的影响力购买工具。加密货币的匿名性和易于匿名化交易的特点,使其成为一种理想的洗钱工具,引发了伦理专家的担忧。特朗普政府正在削弱监管机构对加密货币的监管,导致流入的资金没有限制。我认为特朗普并不真正关心加密货币,他只是将其视为一种赚钱方式,并迎合他儿子们的兴趣。

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It's Wednesday, May 28th. I'm Jane Koston, and this is What A Day, the show that salutes U.S. District Judge for the District of Columbia, Richard Leon, for using 26 exclamation points to smack down President Donald Trump's effort to target a major law firm via executive order. To quote Leon, Indeed, to rule otherwise would be unfaithful to the judgment and vision of the founding fathers. Exclamation point.

On today's show, it turns out the majority of district court judges aren't ruling in Trump's favor despite their political party appointment. And little Marco is coming for foreign student visas. But first, let's talk about how the White House is for sale.

On Tuesday, Trump Media and Technology Group announced it would be raising more than $2 billion to invest in Bitcoin. As the name might indicate, President Donald Trump is heavily involved in Trump Media and Technology Group. He's the company's largest shareholder. Trump Media is also the parent company of Truth Social, where Trump posts literally every thought that enters his head.

This deal is not the president's first do-si-do with cryptocurrency. There was his dinner last week with the top holders of the president's meme coin. The Trump family owns 60% of World Liberty Financial, another crypto firm that's playing a central role in a $2 billion deal between an investment firm backed by the government of the United Arab Emirates and Binance, the biggest crypto exchange on earth.

In short, the president of the United States has made it clear he and his family are going to make as much money as possible and are thrilled that crypto is giving them the chance to do so, even if Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt tries to argue otherwise. It's absurd for anyone to insinuate that this president is profiting off of the presidency. This president was incredibly successful.

Absurd. Absurd to think a rich person might want to use his power and influence to get richer. Who could imagine such a thing? That never happens in our capitalist society.

So to better understand all of the Trump family's conflicts with the crypto world, I spoke with Allison Morrow. She's a senior writer for CNN Business. Allison, welcome to What Today.

Thanks so much for having me. So it's pretty clear to me the Trump family is going all in on cryptocurrency, but I'm admittedly still very fuzzy on how they're making actual money from it. I know they are, but I don't know how. So I guess let's start there. Broadly speaking, how is crypto turning into real wealth accumulation for the Trumps?

It is so vast and kind of hard to wrap your head around all of it. You're right to be confused. A lot of people are. And I have to say, in my reporting, it seems like the Trump family is counting on crypto seeming scary and confusing for people to not really want to dive into it. So first and foremost, they have at least four crypto ventures now.

That's a crypto trading platform. They have a Bitcoin mining platform that they're going to take public. Trump's digital media company is essentially becoming a Bitcoin holding company now. So there's a lot of different ways that they can make revenue off of these things. The primary way so far that we know about is that through this meme coin, which they just held this...

crypto dinner for the meme coin, they make money off of transaction fees. So it doesn't matter if the value of the actual asset is up or down, as long as it's trading hands, the Trump organization and by extension, the Trump family are making money off of that. And this actually gets us into the last few days. And let's start with Tuesday. Trump Media and Technology Group, which is a parent company of the president's social media platform, Choose Social, which is where he says everything he thinks about

It announced it plans to raise more than $2 billion to invest in Bitcoin. I'm not going to lie. I read you that question from a script, but I'm not like 100% sure what these words mean. So can you explain why this is a big deal and how Trump, the person who is the president of the United States, will benefit?

Sure. This is an increasingly popular strategy among some corporations to stock up on Bitcoin and use that Bitcoin as leverage to do what? Buy more Bitcoin. As long as Bitcoin keeps becoming more valuable in the marketplace, that increases the value of your market capitalization. For the Trump Media Company, this seems to be kind of an admission that

It was never really going to be a successful media company. They had no real media model to make money. And this seems to be a way to make it more of a Bitcoin holding company, which allows investors to invest in a stock that they're familiar with that's not as scary as crypto. So you get the exposure to Bitcoin's valuation changing, but you don't actually have to have a crypto wallet anymore.

And late last week, the president hosted his meme coin dinner at the Trump National Golf Club outside of D.C. It was this ultra exclusive event specifically for the top 200 or so holders of the president's self-branded crypto token. And I saw some posts from Instagram, like some of the attendees complaining that they didn't actually get to talk to the president. What do we know about the people who attended?

There's a lot we don't know about the people who attended, and that's kind of the problem. I think the thing to keep in mind is that we asked for a guest list and we have been rebuffed by the White House, by the Trump Organization, by the organizers of the crypto dinner. What we do know about some of the people who were there, they all paid a lot to be there.

Some people paid tens of thousands, even millions of dollars. And one of those guys is really worth knowing his name and just kind of like flagging that he was there is Justin Sun. Yes, a Chinese born crypto entrepreneur.

Yes. Based on what he has said to the media, he is a billionaire many times over. He's 34 years old. He started a very popular crypto trading platform called Tron. But the thing to know about him with his connections to the Trumps is that under the Biden administration, he was under investigation for potential fraud in the crypto securities market. There were civil fraud charges against him. And then once Trump

one reelection, Justin Sun was right there donating to the Trump family's nascent crypto efforts. He has poured in millions of dollars into these Trump crypto projects.

And then in February, his civil fraud charges were just evaporated. You know, they were put on hold officially, but the SEC is dropping most of its enforcement cases against anyone in crypto. So the Trump administration has just been very beneficial to Justin's son. And according to reporting from the Wall Street Journal, he was able to come to the U.S. for the first time without fear of being arrested for this crypto dinner.

You reported that the top investors in Trump's meme coin collectively dumped nearly $150 million into it over about three weeks, even though these meme coins are functionally useless as a currency or investment. Like, I could not go buy dinner with one of these. And if I tried to, the restaurant would get mad. So what's the upside for Trump to push something like this? Like, why this and not

boosting initiation fees to his Mar-a-Lago resort, which, to be clear, he has done, or accumulating more Boeing 747s from foreign governments. Why this?

The crypto stuff is interesting because the scale is virtually unlimited. There's only so many, you know, 747s from Qatari royal families you can get or other royal families that want to peddle influence with the White House. Crypto is really just unlimited. It's very, very difficult to trace who the original senders of that money are.

So anyone wanting to buy influence and then, you know, the way crypto is designed, it is anonymous. And it's also easy to even anonymize your anonymous transactions and like go through kind of like money laundering techniques to hide the source of that money. And that is why, you know, ethics experts who I've talked to have said that the crypto game is the bigger ethical concern, the bigger like,

You know, Qatari jets are one thing, but this is like a scale we've just never seen before. And we've never had the technology to even comprehend for a president in office. Yeah. At the risk of asking a really obvious question here, what are the ethical and legal lines that are being completely flouted here, specifically with crypto?

The Constitution is pretty clear cut about you can't sell access to the White House. And the founding fathers were very concerned about the potential of foreign actors trying to manipulate or influence the president one way or another. This just the crypto aspect opens so many doors because all of this is.

overseen by a regulatory system that Trump directly controls. And he is working very, very constructively to defang the regulators who would otherwise keep these companies and these kinds of financial products in check. So there's essentially no limit on the amount of money that can flow in through these channels.

And you made the reference to the potential concerns for foreign influence. And we saw that at the crypto dinner. Bloomberg had some reporting that most of the people who were the top investors in Trump's meme coin appeared to be from overseas. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there are a lot of names that were known as like, they're crypto guys. But I just can't imagine there weren't concerted efforts from foreign governments trying to infiltrate that dinner. And it wouldn't be hard. You didn't have to spend that much money to get in.

If Trump's presidency is virtually for sale, whether it's through meme coin or private jets or billion dollar promises from oil rich countries, what do you think he's signaling to the American people? Trump will make money. However, he doesn't.

see spit in any way that there's a way to make money, he will do it. If you ever listen to some of his speeches about crypto, you know, he was a crypto skeptic and a doubter as recently as 2021, 2022. It wasn't until he figured out that there were a bunch of rich crypto bros looking to

influence the election that he was like, oh, this could be a thing for me. And when you hear him talk about it, you know, at the Bitcoin conference last year, he said something about like, have fun playing with your coins. I don't think he really cares about crypto. I think he sees it as a way to make money. And he knows that his sons are interested in it. And so he's just kind of going with it. Allison, thank you so much for your time. Jane, thank you so much for having me.

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I couldn't be more pleased to announce that as of today, the COVID vaccine for healthy children and healthy pregnant women has been removed from the CDC recommended immunization schedule. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announced a major rollback of COVID vaccine recommendations on Tuesday. Ah, what a surprise. An anti-vaxxer being anti-vax.

Kennedy made the announcement in a video posted to Twitter, flanked by Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Marty McCary and National Institutes of Health Director Jay Bhattacharya. Last year, the Biden administration urged healthy children to get yet another COVID shot despite the lack of any clinical data.

to support the repeat booster strategy in children. That ends today. It's common sense and it's good science. There's no evidence healthy kids need it today. And most countries have stopped recommending it for children. We're now one step closer to realizing President Trump's promise to make America healthy again.

Missing from the video? Officials from the CDC. Kennedy made the change ahead of a CDC advisory panel set to meet in June to discuss guidance for the fall shots. Up until now, the CDC had been recommending that all Americans six months and older get the vaccine annually. The policy change throws into question whether health insurance companies will still cover the shot and how accessible it'll be for people who want to get one. Today, Canada faces another critical moment.

Democracy, pluralism, the rule of law, self-determination and freedom are values which Canadians hold dear and ones which the government is determined to protect.

On Tuesday, King Charles delivered the Speech from the Throne, marking the beginning of Canada's 45th session of Parliament. Typically, that speech, which outlines the government's goals for the new parliamentary session, is delivered on behalf of the Canadian Prime Minister by the monarch's most senior representative in Canada. However, this year, newly elected Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney invited King Charles to make the address. King Charles is the non-partisan head of state of Canada, which is a member of the British Commonwealth of Former Colonies.

A monarch has only personally delivered the address three times in history. Queen Elizabeth II made the speech on two previous occasions, first in 1957. I greet you as your queen. Together, we constitute the Parliament of Canada.

King Charles and Queen Camilla arrived in Ottawa on Monday. Their trip comes amid tensions between Canada and the U.S. President Donald Trump's escalating trade war and repeated threats to annex the country reportedly prompted Prime Minister Carney to invite King Charles to make the address. President Trump took note of Monday's events, writing on True Social that Canada was considering an offer to become the 51st state in order to join the U.S.'s Golden Dome project, because of course he did.

the Trump administration ordered a pause on new student visa appointments. According to a State Department document signed by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the pause is, quote, "...in preparation for an expansion of required social media screening and vetting."

It said the State Department is reviewing existing operations for student and exchange visitor visa applicants and plans to issue guidance soon. At a briefing Tuesday, State Department spokesperson Tammy Bruce wouldn't confirm the possibility of requiring all foreign students applying to study in the U.S. to undergo social media vetting. What I can remind everyone of, which we've discussed for months here, is that we use every tool in our tool chest to vet anyone coming in who wants to come into this country.

The Trump administration has been scrutinizing student visas and announced last week that it would halt Harvard's enrollment of international students. A federal judge has since temporarily blocked the action. Well, he's a loser. You know, I think that's a loser. That's President Trump talking about Minnesota Senator Tim Walz in March. But he could also have plausibly been talking about himself, too. Why? Because federal district courts have ruled against him on 26 out of 27 possible occasions so far in May.

For those of you into percentages, that shakes out to a loss rate of about 96%. Well, he's a loser. You know, I think that's a loser. Those figures are according to a piece Adam Bonica published last week on a sub stack on data and democracy.

Bonica has been tracking this cross-party rebellion in the courts since February. Trump's loss rate has been increasing as time goes on. According to Bonica, this pushback has been motivated at least in part by President Trump's attacks on law firms and individual judges. He also cited the weakness of the Trump administration's legal arguments and the unabashedness of its overreach.

Earlier this month, Judge Fernando Rodriguez Jr. of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas ruled against the president's use of the Alien Enemies Act to deport Venezuelan nationals living in the U.S. Rodriguez was appointed by Trump in 2018. And just last week, Judge Myung Joon of the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts blocked President Trump's executive order aimed at dismantling the Department of Education. In response, the Trump administration referred to him as a, quote,

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