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Warlords, Espionage, and Disinformation | Introducing Hot Money: Agent of Chaos

2025/6/17
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Sam Jones: 我正在调查Jan Marsalek,他似乎出现在各种意想不到的地方,从奥地利政治丑闻到利比亚难民营,再到叙利亚的雇佣军。这个故事不仅仅关乎他个人,也关乎我们所处的社会,以及权力、腐败和地缘政治游戏。我发现像Marsalek这样的人,对风险和欺骗非常着迷,一个身份和生活对他们来说远远不够。他的生活是窥视地缘政治权力游戏的窗口,这些游戏以各种方式影响着我们的生活。 Paul Murphy: 2018年,我为了与Marsalek的午餐,特意戴上领带并佩戴了微型麦克风。我试图设一个陷阱,将他录下来,但他非常圆滑和谨慎。我与Marsalek共进午餐,试图引诱他提出贿赂,但他并没有上当。后来我从他那里得到了一些关于索尔兹伯里中毒事件的文件,包括诺维乔克的配方。虽然我喜欢Marsalek这个人,但我知道他很危险,而且与Wirecard的欺诈案有关。 Dan McCrum: 我是Wirecard调查的首席记者,一直在努力揭露Wirecard的欺诈行为。当我得知保罗一直在与Marsalek秘密会面时,我感到非常惊讶。Marsalek向保罗展示了关于诺维乔克的文件,这让我意识到他卷入了一些比公司欺诈更严重的事情。尽管如此,我们还是专注于揭露Wirecard的欺诈行为,并最终成功地证明了这一点。

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The episode begins with the investigation of Wirecard, a German fintech company, and its COO, Jan Marsalek. A bribe attempt and subsequent meetings between Marsalek and an FT journalist reveal Marsalek's involvement in a web of espionage and fraud. The initial investigation focuses on Wirecard's fraudulent activities, but Marsalek's multifaceted connections are soon uncovered.
  • Wirecard's 2 billion euro fraud
  • Jan Marsalek's role in the fraud
  • The bribe attempt by Marsalek
  • Marsalek's connections to espionage and geopolitical power games

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In 2020, the Financial Times exposed a 2 billion euro fraud at Wirecard, a high-flying German fintech. Many thought that was the end of the story. But for reporter Sam Jones, it was just the beginning.

This season on Hot Money: Agent of Chaos, from Pushkin Industries and the Financial Times, Jones investigates Wirecard’s chief operating officer who vanished just as Wirecard collapsed. And turned out to also be a Russian spy.

Here’s episode 1. Listen to Hot Money: Agent of Chaos) wherever you get your podcasts.

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