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AI ‘Impostor’ Voice Scams Are On the Rise. How to Protect Yourself?

2025/4/16
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Shen Liu: 我报道了美国对中国商品的新关税和一个被称为"微不足道条款"的贸易豁免的取消,这对Shein的业务构成了严重的威胁。这些变化可能会导致Shein向美国出口商品的成本大幅增加,从而可能导致价格上涨或Shein减少对美国市场的关注。虽然Shein正在努力通过多元化供应链来应对这些挑战,例如在巴西和土耳其建立生产基地,但这并不能完全抵消美国关税的影响。Shein在美国市场的地位举足轻重,但它也正在积极拓展欧洲市场等其他市场。最终,Shein是否会继续大力发展美国市场,将取决于最终的贸易政策和成本效益分析。 Julie Jargon: 我关注的是一种新型的AI语音诈骗,骗子利用AI技术克隆受害者亲友的声音进行诈骗。这种诈骗手段非常具有欺骗性,因为克隆的声音与受害者熟人的声音几乎难以分辨。骗子通常会编造一些紧急情况,例如绑架或意外事故,以此来诱骗受害者汇款。这种诈骗方式造成的经济损失巨大,而且正在迅速蔓延。为了保护自己,消费者应该提高警惕,与家人约定暗号,并通过短信或其他方式核实来电人的身份。

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This episode is brought to you by CLA. Hey, T&B listeners. Before we get started, a heads up. We're going to be asking you a question at the top of each show for the next few weeks. Our goal here at Tech News Briefing is to keep you updated with the latest headlines and trends on all things tech. Now we want to know more about you, what you like about the show, and what more you'd like to be hearing from us. Our question this week is, what would you like to hear from the tech headlines?

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Welcome to Tech News Briefing. It's Wednesday, April 16th. I'm Victoria Craig for The Wall Street Journal. Chinese bargain app Xi'an made the U.S. one of its biggest markets. Now its formula is crumbling under the weight of President Trump's tariffs. Then our family and tech columnist explains a voice-cloning twist on a scam that's cheated Americans out of billions of dollars.

But first, duty-free shipping plus ultra-cheap fashion used to equal a winning combination for China's e-commerce clothing giant, Xi'an. Thanks to a nimble supply chain across Asia, the company has been able to offer cheap prices to consumers in the U.S.,

But all of that could rapidly change thanks to the one-two punch of new U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods and the closure of a popular exemption called the de minimis provision. WSJ reporter Shen Liu covers the intersection of technology and society in China. Shen Liu, walk us through this now closed loophole and how that could make it more costly for Xi'an to import goods to America. De minimis is a trade provision that allows Chinese

small packages value at or under $800 to come to the U.S. without custom screening, without paying tariffs. And it's for products from all over the country, not just from China. But the Trump administration is closing the trade of provision for China imports only. And Xi'an hasn't

been completely caught off guard by this in a way because it's been making moves to try to shield itself from actions like this, the impact of souring relations between the U.S. and China. Yeah, Xi'an has been diversifying its supply chains over the past few years. Other than China, Xi'an is now also producing manufacturing in Brazil and

Turkey. They also have a partnership in India, but those are not their main manufacturing base. The main manufacturing base is still in China. So obviously we know that the whole point of these tariffs is to try to encourage companies, force companies to move more manufacturing to America.

Xi'an has talked about moving some of its manufacturing to the U.S., but how likely is that looking? It's hard for every company to bring back manufacturing to the U.S., and it's harder for Xi'an because it has been in the center of U.S.-China geopolitical tension for the past few years. Even if Xi'an

to manufacture in the U.S. somehow, it's hard to imagine that China wouldn't put Xi'an under pressure for doing that. Did you reach out to Xi'an for comment on all of this? Xi'an didn't reply to our request for comment. So for customers, at least in the U.S.,

For now, it could mean higher prices if Shein continues to export to America. But does it really need the U.S. market or can it look elsewhere? Can it look maybe to expand its businesses in Europe to make up for the American customers it could lose? Shein's Europe business has been growing very fast, faster than the U.S. market in the past year. So it is growing elsewhere. And Shein sells to more than 150 countries globally.

But the US is such a biggest market and people purchase more frequently in the US than in Europe. Analysts told me American consumers buy

buy more and buy more frequently from Shein than European consumers. So could Amazon potentially be a winner in all of this if Shein decides not to continue to pursue U.S. customers because the prices are just too high? I don't think Shein will stop pursuing the U.S. customers. It all depends on what the ultimate trade policy is, because we are still weeks from May the 2nd. Things may change.

After the second Xi and Teemu would have to pay Trump's new tariffs on China, plus the base tariff, which could amount to near 150%. And so...

I mean, we'll have to wait and see how much price they will add on their products. But Amazon is also subject to new China tariffs. Everybody is going to be more expensive. That was WSJ reporter Shen Liu. Coming up, the dark side of AI, how scammers are using our voices against the people we love. That's after the break. This episode is brought to you by the Remax Collection.

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Have you ever been scammed? Well, a few years ago, I was sitting at work when the phone rang. It looked like the call was coming from the Kansas City Police Department. I grew up in that area, so fearing the worst for my family, I picked up. The person at the other end told me there was a warrant out for my arrest, and to resolve it, I would need to buy gift cards and give him the redemption numbers. I knew it was fake, but despite my better judgment, I stayed on the line for nearly an hour.

It took my boss pulling the phone out of my hand and pushing end for me to actually disconnect the call. Wall Street Journal family and tech columnist Julie Jargon has written about a new kind of scam that works in much the same way. But with the help of AI, it can be much more convincing.

So Julie, tell us about how this type of scam works. Yeah, so there's this whole category of fraud called imposter scams. And that's where someone impersonates somebody that you know. And in some cases, they can actually do a really good job of that by using generative AI to create a voice that sounds just like that of someone you know, or that can approximate the voice of someone you know.

And these are cheap tools that are available online. And you talked to someone who fell victim to this kind of scam. Yeah, I talked to this woman named Linda Roan, who lives in Colorado. And one night she was at home making herself dinner and the phone rang and the call was from a local number. So she picked up and she immediately heard the voice of a young woman that she said sounded just like one of her daughters saying, Mom, I'm OK, but something awful has happened and I need your help.

This mother did what any mother would do and immediately went into sort of panic mode wondering what has happened. Apparently the phone got taken away and a man came on the line and said that her daughter had witnessed a drug deal and screamed and scared away the buyers and now he was out a lot of money and he needed her.

to wire him money to make things right. And if she didn't do that, he would not release her daughter who he had pulled into the back of a van. She ended up doing a wire transfer online and wired $1,000 and then another $1,000.

Finally, the whole thing was over and she called her daughter to see if she was okay and found out that this hadn't happened at all to her daughter. Her daughter was safe at home. You know, I was shocked to see how easy it is to clone someone's voice. Just walk us through how this process works. Yeah, so there's a couple of different methods that criminals can use. One is actual voice cloning where you take a snippet of audio and you can create a likeness from that.

All it takes is three seconds of audio to clone a voice with about 85% accuracy. And that's according to McAfee, which is a security software firm.

And people have so much data online, especially young people that have social media accounts and are posting TikTok videos and YouTube videos. So there's a wealth of online audio from people. And so especially when these scammers are targeting people who have children of, you know, who are in their 20s and 30s and up, it's not hard to find voice clips of people that can be cloned. And

And then there's also a lot of voice changing apps that are free or inexpensive that can be found on app stores. And it's not a voice clone per se, but it's a way to change your voice to sound like someone younger or someone with a different accent or someone of a different gender. So that's another way that people can easily change.

create voices that might sound like a 25-year-old in Texas or whatever. And like you say, if that happens, you become more vulnerable to a scam like this because they've got basic information about who you might be talking to, so you're more inclined to believe that it is who they say it is on the other end of the phone. I'm curious, Julie, you report on tech and the growing use of AI. How did you come across this scam and how pervasive is it? How prevalent is it in society now? It is the

rather pervasive. The Federal Trade Commission has identified imposter scams as the most reported type of scam last year. And people have lost in total. These are just reported cases because a lot of people don't end up reporting that this even happens. But it's resulted in losses of nearly $3 billion. And the FBI has put out a warning about these kind of voice-related scams using AI. And

It's definitely on the rise and the technology is making these things more believable. So how can we as consumers, as everyday people, protect ourselves against falling for this kind of scam? So some of the things you can do are create a code word with family members, something that's unique but easy to remember with like your closest family members so that if anyone does receive a suspicious call, you can ask what's the code word.

And if that person can't say it, then it's a pretty good tip off that it's a scam and you should just hang up. And you should always try to verify that

you know, who you're talking to on the phone is really that person. And there are a couple of ways to do that in the moment. You can text that person. You can also, if you share locations with your family members, you can check your phone and see where is that person. So there are a few different methods for trying to safeguard against this. That was WSJ family and tech columnist, Julie Jargon. And that's it for Tech News Briefing. Today's show was produced by Julie Chang with deputy editors, Chris Dinsley and Scott Salloway.

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