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Ep 276: Emily Campbell

2025/1/29
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Emily Campbell: 我是一名奥运举重运动员,我的饮食习惯和训练方法与众不同。我热爱食物,但为了保持体重,我必须一直吃东西,几乎感觉不到饥饿。比赛当天,我的饮食会根据比赛时间进行调整,营养师会帮我制定详细的饮食计划,避免一些会影响碳水化合物吸收的食物,例如香料。我喜欢吃各种各样的食物,尤其是加勒比菜肴,每顿饭都会有很多菜。我喜欢温暖的面包和黄油,面包也是我赛前饮食的一部分。我喜欢海鲜,我最喜欢的正餐是海鲜煮,里面有很多种海鲜、土豆和鸡蛋。我最喜欢的配菜是烤通心粉和奶酪,我会在奶酪酱里加辣酱。我最喜欢的甜点是芝士蛋糕,不喜欢巧克力。我喜欢不含酒精的鸡尾酒,例如芒果代基里酒。 我的训练非常辛苦,举重是一项技术性很强的运动,需要很高的技巧和力量。即使力量足够,如果没有正确的技术,也无法举起很重的重量。我经常会不小心打到自己的头,也见过其他运动员因为模仿而受伤。比赛中的裁判权力很大,而且容易对运动员吹毛求疵。 我喜欢购买小企业的产品,尤其是黑人艺术家创作的艺术品。我讨厌排队,尤其是在机场。我喜欢自己做饭,不喜欢别人在我的厨房里做饭。 我21岁开始举重,之前是田径运动员。我开始举重后,很快就获得了国家冠军,并被选中参加英联邦运动会。在参加2018年英联邦运动会后,我开始认真对待举重,并最终获得了参加奥运会的资格。举重看起来容易,但实际上非常难,很多人低估了它的难度。我不建议那些力量不足的人购买蛋白产品,很多蛋白产品是营销噱头,实际效果并不明显。 James Acaster: 我和Emily Campbell讨论了她的饮食、训练和生活。我发现她对食物的热爱和对举重的严格要求形成了鲜明的对比。她对食物的描述非常生动有趣,让我对举重运动员的生活有了更深入的了解。我个人对举重运动不太了解,Emily Campbell的分享让我对这项运动有了新的认识。 Ed Gamble: 我和Emily Campbell讨论了她的饮食、训练和生活。我发现她对食物的热爱和对举重的严格要求形成了鲜明的对比。她对食物的描述非常生动有趣,让我对举重运动员的生活有了更深入的了解。我个人对举重运动不太了解,Emily Campbell的分享让我对这项运动有了新的认识。

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Emily Campbell shares her frustrations with queuing, especially at airports, and how she sometimes uses her Olympic medals to her advantage. She also discusses the post-Olympics homecoming and the different experiences of athletes on the Eurostar.
  • Emily Campbell's experiences with queues at airports and the Eurostar.
  • Using Olympic medals to get upgrades.
  • The different experiences of athletes on the Eurostar after the Olympics.

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And sprinkling on the raisins of humour. Raisins, ah, yes. Very nice way to have your Weetabix. This morning... Paul Foot.

This morning I didn't have my usual supplies for my Weetabix, so I went with dried mango and grapes. Hello. Not really the best combo. The grapes actually... Well, the grapes are juicy and the dried mango is chewy. Yeah, yeah. So you've gone for a wild variety of textures. It wasn't what I'd usually go for. I just went for what was in the kitchen. Oh, I've got those up to hand. I'll have them. But like, yes, it wasn't. I think you go one or the other on those, really. Yeah, I think so. I should have done that. I think it'd be grapes for me. Yeah.

Yeah, well, I don't know. Yeah, anyway. That said, Gamble, my name is James Acaster. Together we own a dream restaurant. And every single week we invite a guest in and ask them their favourite ever start and make or dessert cider shan drink. Not in that order. And this week our guest is... Emily Campbell. Emily Campbell.

If you watch the Olympics, you will know Emily Campbell. She is a medal winning weightlifter. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. Absolutely incredible. She's won medals in the last two Olympics. She is so fantastic. I've met Emily before on the show Great British Menu.

She loves talking about food. She's great fun. I can't wait for this episode. Yeah, very excited. Is this our first Olympian? Yes, I believe it is our first Olympian, James. Very exciting. Hopefully not our last. Not our last, please, if any other Olympians are listening.

Not any other. Huh? Not any other. Not any other. They've got to be a laugh as well. Yeah, you've got to be a laugh. Yeah. One of the skateboarders or something. Skateboarders are cool. Yeah. No, hopefully some more Olympians to come, but so excited to have Emily on. Yeah, really excited. And look, even though we're excited, as possibly two little boys can be, we will kick Emily out of the Dream Restaurant if she chooses a secret ingredient. Yeah. An ingredient which we deem to be unacceptable. Yeah.

And this week, the secret ingredient is... Cream of chicken Campbell's soup. Cream of chicken Campbell's soup. Campbell's, Emily Campbell, but we've already done Campbell's soup because it was Babatunde Aleche's secret ingredient because he was wearing the off-menu Campbell's soup t-shirt. You'd think it would have been Sam Campbell's secret ingredient. It wasn't. Too late, already done it for Babatunde. Yeah, but then apparently we're okay reusing it now. Yeah. We should have done it for Sam and done a...

a specific flavour yeah and then done a different specific flavour for Emily and then everyone who's called Campbell we should have always done a different flavour of Campbell's soup yeah which we're going to do from now on yeah so watch out Alistair Alistair Bruce there's so many Campbell's we've still got to have on there's two yeah any others yeah who Max Campbell went to school with him hey

Max Campbell is the ultimate Campbell. Yeah. Campbell sounds a bit like Gamble, I suppose. Yeah. Campbell and Gamble. Were you hanging out together? Yeah, yeah. We were good mates. Max Campbell and Ed Gamble. Yeah, yeah. Fucking hell, that would have been funny. Many people think Gamble is actually a derivation of Campbell. I would not have been able to get over that. Campbell and Gamble. If I went to school with Campbell and Gamble and they were running around...

I'd also say Max Campbell and Ed Gamble as well. There's something about those names. Yeah. Oh man, I would not have been able to get over it. I would have found it so funny. I think you might listen to this as well. So hello. Look, mate, it's funny.

And like, if I ever have to leave this podcast, you know, let's say, I don't, maybe, maybe I'll die before Ed. Max Campbell, you got to replace me. Right. Should we get on with the episode now, James? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Enough of our nonsense. We have an Olympian to talk to. This is the Off Menu Menu of Emily Campbell.

Welcome, Emily, to the Dream Restaurant. Thank you very much for having me. Welcome, Emily Campbell, to the Dream Restaurant. I've been spending it for some time. Finally. I heard the queue was long, so I'm glad you finally let me in. Yeah. Do you like queuing? Hate queues? No, it's a very British thing, isn't it? Yeah.

Really frustrates me. Like I was going on training camp to Tenerife and everybody's queuing just for the sake of queuing. Then they're announcing that the flight's going to leave. So I start going through the queue. Everyone's getting really mad at me. I'm like, well, you guys can stand here. I'm going to get on the flight that's just about to leave. And it's just, we just queue because we think we should queue. Like there's actually no like real purpose to it. You ask somebody, why are you stood there? I don't actually know because everyone else was stood there. Flights are the maddest ones as well. They try everything. Give you a group number to board. Yeah.

They do it by row number. No matter what they do, everyone's just standing up queuing. It drives me up the wall. Stressed as hell. Also, if you've not got much luggage, it's really great to just sit there and watch everyone and be like, look at these idiots. Queuing for a seat you've paid for is beyond me. You've paid for that seat, that is yours. No one else has taken it. I can stand there for like an hour.

I'm like, yeah, I think it's a very British thing, definitely. I think you should just walk on the plane, if you're one of those people who doesn't queue, and just sit down, and when the person arrives, be like, I'll beat you here, you should be in further ahead in the queue. I'm playing by your rules. Yeah, sorry that you're in the window seat. It's my row now. I reckon you could pull that off, Emily. You could just show your bronze medal, and just be like, look,

I win. Yeah, sorry. It's my seat. This is my seat now. Do you put that in your carry-on or do you check it in your luggage? Great question. Because I would think that's going to affect the weight. Either way, that's a hefty medal. Yeah, no, definitely carry-on. Not that it's a problem for you. You're a weightlifter.

But, you know, where are you putting it? Yeah, no, definitely carry on. Because obviously, you know, you've seen how they throw them suitcases in the bottom. There's just like a little, you know, fling and, you know, you get about 10,000 dents by the time you get your suitcase back. So, yeah, keep it with you. There's like a trend where a lot of the athletes like put it on underneath them and then go through the scanner and obviously it goes off and then they go, oh, sorry, and then pull it out.

It's quite funny to be fair. I've never done it myself personally, but I've seen it on the ground. Have you ever tried to get an upgrade by wearing the medal at check-in? No, I did on the way back from Tokyo, which was pretty cool, but that was because they already knew. But I do have the rings tattooed on the inside of my arm, so sometimes it's just a quick fix of the hair or something, so it's not too obvious. And then they're like, oh, what do you do? And I'm like, well, it's funny you ask. Yeah.

Yeah, but I could do that. Yeah, you get tattoos all the time. Yeah, I could just get one and then see if it works. That's it. No one will ever know. Yeah, but then if they say what sport do you do, then I have to make something up. You do. Let's get your story straight now then. Yeah, but what sport do you think I could say and potentially get away with it with a membrane? I think you could say equestrian. Yeah.

Okay, the two poshest ones, alright. I was at King's Cross St Pancras, or just St Pancras actually, when, you know, they're two rival barbers. They're not rivals, man. They're rivals, have you been there? No.

It's nuts. Like a side story. I was at St Pancras when everyone came back from the Olympics this year and everyone was wearing their medals. And I didn't know it was going to happen. I wasn't there to like greet all the athletes or nothing. I'd say goodbye to my friend and send him off to Ketwin. He wasn't even wearing a medal. And then

Turned round and all these people with Team GB t-shirts. And I thought, oh, that's cool. People have got the merch. And then I realised they're also wearing medals. It was all of you have come back. All of us. On the Eurostar. Yeah. I think that might have been, I might have been in that queue. I didn't see you. I know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because another queue for us all to get out. What a life. Yeah. They make a big thing of it. We had like a homecoming Eurostar and it was all going on. I mean, carriage one was not the most exciting though. We was all so tired. Oh.

all of us just fell asleep and this guy came up with his guitar and Team GB was like, I don't think you want to go in there because if they beat you up, I can't help you. So he just stood at the door and went, okay. And we just literally was all conked out. But apparently down the rest of the train, they had a great time. They was partying. We saw footage and we was like, wow, can't believe that was the same train.

What was the craziest carriage? Which athletes like throw down hard? I think it was actually the rowers, you know. The rowers were really going for it. I think the hockey lot were in there as well, yeah. But they were having a right party, yeah. It was all going down. And yeah, I just saw it on social media later and I was like, wow, I didn't know that was the same train.

Well, the rowers, they never get to see people's faces half the time. So it must be nice just to be in a carriage and partying with everyone rather than just looking at the back of someone's head and sitting down. It's a pretty boring job. It's a fair point, to be fair. And they all came back as well because they've finished. So a lot of people came back for the closing ceremony, which honestly, I wouldn't have bothered. Bored.

It was interesting. But yeah, a lot of people came back, so we was a little bit more of a united front, because a lot of people had gone home because they'd finished like a week ago or whatever, so they'd gone home. And obviously because it was only Paris, people just popped back on the Eurostar and came back, so it was a bit of a bigger crew to go. So yeah, we had quite a homecoming train, which was pretty cool. So yeah, you probably got to see a little snippet of that. Yeah, I was very excited. I felt like I was watching proper history from coming back. I saw one of the rowers actually having a selfie with someone, but she didn't.

didn't look happy about it to be fair to her I'd also seen her be interviewed on TV and being like this is this is bullshit she was like she liked winning the gold medal but she was like this press stuff afterwards couldn't absolutely go off itself yeah

It's true. Everyone doesn't remind you of what comes with when you get a medal. Like you get really excited about the medal and then you realise what actually comes with it and it's like kind of obligatory and you're like, hmm. Like, I mean, you can press out and say, you know what, I don't want to do press. I don't want to do it. But then you're just like a dick though, don't you? You don't speak to anybody. So you can't win either way, can you? You've got to be just miserable and get through it.

We haven't had many athletes on the podcast. So we haven't really got to talk about, you know, the diet of an athlete and like how, you know, when you're a weightlifter, what's it look like when you're eating and like you're getting ready for a competition? Does it change? No, it's pretty much the same to be fair. But it's just a lot of food.

all the time. So it's like, I have this real, like, love-hate relationship with food because I'm Caribbean, so food is, like, everything. Like, you know, every time we have a party, food has to be immaculate or else, you know, it's just not a good party and things like that. So I've grown up, like, eating really great food and love food, but then obviously when I became an athlete, I'm super heavyweight, so I have to keep my body weight up to a certain, like, level and just eating is a chore. Like, it's just, when you finish eating and you still fall, it's like, eat again. Like, it's...

I can't remember the last time I felt hungry. It gets to a point where you're like, I'm not actually sure what hunger feels like because you literally still fall from the snack that you've just eaten and then it's lunchtime and then you've got to eat another snack before training and then after training, probably the first time that you feel hungry because you've done obviously a workout for like two hours and then you eat that and then it's 45 minutes later, it's dinner time and then it's pre-bed snack and it's just, yeah, it just doesn't stop. I mean, I have a fantastic nutritionist, like she is excellent.

Like she's so good and she's so good at trying to vary things and keep it exciting because she knows we have to eat a lot. But yeah, sometimes it's just get it Daniel. That pre-bed one would kill me the most. I think the pre-beds, the pre-bed pre. Oh,

oh yeah so it's got to be 30 minutes essentially before you fall asleep uh-huh so then that's so it's working overnight basically what's the pressure there though and falling asleep because I if I know I've got to get to sleep at a certain time I can't I'll just lay there awake but if I'm like right I've had my pre-bed snack

In that 30 minutes, I've got to be asleep. Yeah, I can't relate. Sorry. I'm like fall asleep. Like any weird kind of person at any time. Like I have a real skill for sleeping. I don't know if it's a skill or if I should get it checked out. I'm not sure. I'm on the border of it. But I could literally be chilling, like having a conversation with someone and the next minute I'm fast asleep. Well, we'll see what happens later on in this episode. Stop boring me, guys. Sorry. I don't think I'd want that characteristic if I was a weightlifter. Yeah.

Yeah. If I was halfway through a competition, if I got the weights above my head and I doze off, I'm in trouble. Yeah, that's why you take a lot of caffeine. Don't worry about that. We do that to counteract that happening. But yeah, but no, sometimes it's nice to have a nap before as well because we weigh in two hours before and then you've just got this horrible time where you're just sat there waiting. There's nothing ready to do. You can't warm up too early or you can't do anything. So it's just like eat a little bit of something. And then sometimes I think, oh, you know what? Get a quick 20 minutes in.

power nap, wake up and then ready to go. So pre-nap snack? Pre-nap snack, yeah. So that'll probably be like, so on competition day is a little bit different in terms of like depending on when you compete, she'll like basically collate me like a table and tell me exactly what time to eat everything. So that's normally like, it's not really exciting to be fair because she pulls you off fibre, she pulls you off spice and everything that like stops you from absorbing carbs properly.

Spice stops you from absorbing carbs properly. Yeah, sometimes, yeah. Sometimes if you're like a gut that doesn't agree with it or whatever, or you're not used to it, yeah, sometimes it can interfere with the way that you absorb stuff. So yeah, she pulls you off that. So normally it's like a chicken sandwich with mayo. But you know, sometimes the staples do the job, don't they? You can't go wrong. It's just as long as the chicken's not dry.

because there is nothing worse in life than dry chicken. Completely agree. Like, that poor chicken did not deserve to die for it to be dry and unseasoned. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's the stuff that kind of makes me think, you know what, I'll go vegetarian. Because like, how are you going to destroy the chicken like that for it not to be even just treated with a little bit of care? Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Absolutely. That's my opinion. Yeah, no, I think that poor dry chicken probably make a lot of people go veggie.

We always start with still the sparkling water. Still water. If you drink sparkling water, you're a psychopath. Yeah. Standard. It's not nice. You can't convince anybody that it's nice. It's just not. We have a lot of guests on this that absolutely love sparkling water. Bless them.

Are they all psychopaths? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely, yeah. Or are they just doing it to please their friends or something? It's not nice. Also, I think any time we do have people who are sports people or whatever on, they choose still water because they're not drinking sparkling.

and then go and exercise because you've got to drink a lot of water as well yeah absolutely I mean I'm not going to front like water in general is just not the nicest really like I'm one of those like I'm a squash person like I've got those little like travel ones and you know I'd rather drink squash than drink water water's just boring isn't it

it's just there for hydration. We'll let you have squash as your water course if you want. Yeah, would you? Oh, that's great, yeah. I love like an orange and pineapple or a tropical or something along those lines. Yeah, solid. Oh, that's good. That just got better, didn't it, already? And do you want it in one of those squeezy little pouches? Is that what you're talking about? The little squeezy ones? I mean, they're just convenient, aren't they? But, you know, any squash works. You don't want to go double strength really because you don't want it to be like weak. Crazy the double strength, man.

It is. You have to be really careful with that, you know, because if you get a bit too, it can get a bit too much. You go to space. It's crazy. Yeah. I have my really sweet as well, apparently, because I remember once we was catching a flight and I was with a couple of the lads that we were going to an international and I said, oh, come on, finish this because I can't finish it all. And they were like, Emily, what the hell is that? Like, how much juice is in there?

Are these white lifters as well? These big boys. Proper big boys, yeah, because I travel with all the heavyweights, so all the heavyweight boys, I was like, just finish that. And they were like, that is awful, Emily. They were like, have you got half a bottle of squash in there? And I was like, no. Like, I didn't even think it was that sweet as I've been drinking it my whole life. You're hardcore. Yeah. You're strong like the squash. Yeah. That's what you've got to tell them. Wow. You've got to go and tell those boys, this squash is stronger than you guys. Wow, I'm going to go put that on my Hinge profile.

Have you ever got one of those little pouches and thought about shotting it? Yeah. Oh, no, that is pretty... Wow, you went to a dark place for that, didn't you? I bet someone's done it. Shotting squash. Someone must have done it. Someone's got to have done it, yeah, definitely. What, just like squirted in their mouth? You know how some, like, you see some weightlifters, they use, like, smelling salts or something? We do, yeah. You could do it instead of that. You could just get a shot, shot it. It's just...

And then go for a one rep max. Maybe we've been getting it wrong the whole time. Maybe squash has been the one. Did you not know about the smelling salts? I don't know what a smelling salt is. Is that if you pass out? Well, yeah, that's used because, wait,

weightlifters do pass out a lot especially in the cleaning jerks sometimes if you have a heavy clean you can get like and then obviously the bars here so then if you don't like sometimes if you have to look down to like try and release your airways a little bit but yeah just in general it just kind of wakes you up and just gets you like a little bit alert or whatever so yeah and then obviously on the market now there's stupid strong ones like they're getting crazy with making them because obviously once we've made something we have to make it like 10 times worse don't we um so yeah there's like some really really like strong ones but yeah

most weightlifters you will see use sniffing salts. I don't tend to use them on the snatch, but I use them on the cleaning jerks. It looks, it's the most stressful sport to watch. I'm just like, you're going to, you're going to, you're going to crumple. I can really see the stress in your eyes as well. Every time, every time you lift it, I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?

You're going to fall over. It's going to trap you. Especially when you put it on the front. When it's on the back, that's bad enough. But when it's on the front and your wrists are bending backwards and it's basically going to cut your head off. I'm like, what are they doing? But you know they train so it's not going to trap them, right? They're going to fall over. But they're pushing themselves. You've got a PB. I'm like, she hadn't done that before. Is that wise?

What are you doing? I mean, if you're going to get a PB, do it at the Olympics. Yeah, definitely. I mean, I would love to disagree with everything you're saying, but you've actually got some really strong points. Some really fair points. Yeah. When you drop it on the floor at the end. Yeah, that's the fun bit though. That's the fun bit. That's going to bounce up and hit someone in the face one day. Mm.

Yeah, if it's too light. But if it's heavy enough, it'll grand. You'll drop it on your feet. That's what I always think when you're in a bam like that. Yeah. Well, as long as you keep your feet inside the bar, and obviously the bar's like that much off the floor, so the bar will never hit your feet. Even like if you fall back with it as well, as long as you keep your head on the floor, the bar will just roll straight over your head because of the height it is off the floor. Oh, God.

So you're all right with that. But yeah, I mean, yeah, there's been some accidents and there's been some people, especially people on the internet that see it and think, oh, that's really cool. I'm going to give that a try. And then they end up, like you said, folding themselves like a deck chair. And yeah, it's really, it's really interesting. And we're like,

People are laughing at it, but in our heads we're like, oh my God, that is so bad. Like, yeah, that is so bad. They are going to be literally killing. And they got people that have dropped out on legs and quads and stuff and ended up like tearing stuff and got like big bruises all the way up. Yeah, it's rough. I mean, when you get to our level, you learn how to bail out of stuff. But yeah, in the beginning you do. Yeah, I mean, you hit yourself with a bar. We do a lift called a muscle snatch and it's just basically where you bring the bar through without rebending your legs underneath. Sometimes you bring your head to and smack the bar down.

So we've got people have duck eggs in the middle of the red and it won't be the first and last time you do it. It's one of those, you know, could happen anytime. Like, yeah, it's not for the faint hearted ass sport. No, I'll definitely give you that. It's you've got to be so awful smashing yourself in the head with a bar. And your first thought is I'll probably do that again. Yeah. Yeah. Awful. And you've got the rest of your session as well. Cause normally muscle snatch is like the beginning of the session as well. So it's like, well get over it. Cause you've got to get the rest of the session done. Yeah. You got your post-session snack in a minute. Yeah.

Exactly. And it's a duck egg, annoying. Yeah. You do the thing as well. You lift it over your head and then you're like, you're smiling and everything. You're like, ha ha! Like it's the best thing ever. That's it. I'm like, are you not stressed out? No. I'd have it over my head. I'd be like, someone get this fucking thing off me. Ha ha ha!

Next time we train, I'm going to think about that. Get this fucking thing off me. Yeah. Next big competition. You said the worlds are in December, right? Yes. I want you to do a snatch and scream, get this fucking thing off me.

And the people who've heard this will know what it's in reference to. Yeah, definitely. I'll probably have to lift a swearing out though because we get told off for swearing. Do you? Yeah. They're probably prunes about that stuff. Yeah. If you swear or whatever, like if you're like coaching from the side as well and you swear at your athlete or whatever, they like shout at your officials. It's because the problem is in our sport, right? The officials are made to feel dead special. They get their own little walkout and everyone claps for them and everyone, they get to go their name and it's like, oh, behave. Like, behave.

you're here to do a job everybody knows you you're great at your job thank you very much just go and sit in your seats and get it done but yeah they get this like they line us up announce all of us and then they line all the officials up we're trying to get rid of it for ages it's dead boring like nobody cares like it's literally to fill time and it is the deadest space of filled time you've ever seen in your life so yeah so they all feel like they're dead important because they get the little waving announcement at the beginning so yeah they get a little bit of empathy

they're mad with power now yeah this is it this is it you give people an inch take a mile don't they yeah I mean no one's meeting them off the Eurostar well well shit pop-up doms or bread pop-up doms or bread Emily Campbell pop-up doms or bread bread pop-up doms are like do you know what I mean they're strong but I feel like they have to they have to go with the full Indian meal I think on their own they're a little bit random aren't they

But bread, all different types of bread. I mean, people do the whole bread and olive oil thing, which is a bit weird to me. Like, I've noticed it before and I'm like, oh, you're just dipping that in oil. That's, like, really strange. Like, I'm more of a, like, bread and butter kind of girl. Yeah. Yeah. And bread forms part of your, like, pre-competition diet as well. You say you have chicken mayo sandwich. Yes. Cool. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, bread is a good staple. You know, I have it in breakfast.

have it for meals as well. But yeah, just don't think you can go wrong. When the bread's warm as well, it's got to be warm. Warm, put the butter on straight away, melts, chops a good one. In Paris, did you have many warm, fresh baguettes from the bakery? We had a couple, to be fair, yeah. We stayed in Saint-Germain-en-Laye for prep camp, which was pretty bougie, to be fair. It was really nice, and there was a bakery across the road, which was lovely, and you could smell it every morning as well, which is, I mean, there's nothing better than the smell of fresh bread in Paris.

in the morning. So yeah, that was really good. But when you're on the way to training and you know, you can't have the bread quite yet till later. It's not, not ideal, but yeah, no, it was really good. And then they had a bakery in the village as well, which was pretty cool. And yeah, the bread, the bread, they did not lack in, in Paris, as you can imagine their, their bread skills. And it was really funny actually watching people cause they literally just buy baguettes, break it off and eat it.

like walking through the street, like it's normal. And I'm like, that's, that's really weird. Cause obviously we just don't see that, do we? But that's such a normal thing in France. Cause it's so good. You can just have a little nibble of it on the way home. Yeah. But by the top off, when you're away with the other weightlifters and you can like buy bread and you're having, you're having to eat all this food.

do the other athletes from other sports get really jealous of you is there like climbers sat there going oh fucking hell i want a bag they're not sad well it's funny actually because obviously the other weightlifters they're all in weight classes so they have to cut weight so a lot of them by the time we get to competition are very reduced food so they're very hungry yeah so they're the opposite i'm moaning because i've got too much to eat and they're moaning because they want some of what i'm eating so you've got like the the contrast between but then yeah do you know what most i

was really surprised actually you know the sports where you think oh they probably don't eat that much or whatever but like like your marathon runners your long distance runners all them they have to get so many calories in because they run so far that actually you see a plate of food and you think go on like you didn't think they'd be able to put that kind of food away do you know what I mean like it was really impressive how they eat and you know triathlons

fleets to keep yourself fuelled and that so really to be fair there's not many sports that you will see like really restricting it's just your weight category sports as they get closer to competition they've got to cut down because they've got to make weight so your taekwondo your judo weightlifting etc yeah they've all got to make weight so the guys who are going up the wall fast honestly it's like 100m sprint vertical it's

mad that bonkers crazy it's so impressive so impressive yeah I was watching it and I was just like wow and apparently they know that course so they know what they're going to do they know where they're going to put their hands it's just essentially how fast can they do it so each time they've just got to nail it as fast as possible but yeah surely they can't be eating loads of bread no certainly not immediately before no put some bread at the top of the wall nah you're talking now you're fast yeah

straight up there wouldn't that warm again you ever get to get in with the warm yeah put an ice cream at the top you're straight up there oh yeah I'll be straight I'd win the Olympics if there was an ice cream at the top standard I wouldn't even need to know the course be straight up there James A. Cass has done it a novice has just won doesn't turn up for the medal ceremony because you've got your prize yeah you've got your ice cream thanks it's been real I'm at St. Pancras with my cone around my neck laughing

I'm a champ. Get a specific type of bread off you, actually. Oh. I know you want warm bread with butter. Yeah. You can't go wrong with a good chia butter, to be fair. Yeah. Or like a focaccia. I can give you both in a little basket. Yeah. A little Italian bread basket. That's it, yeah. Do a little pick and mix.

Your dream starter? So I would probably have to say either some like buttermilk breaded chicken strips or chicken wings, one of the two. I'm not forced. But it's got to be in like a honey and sriracha like sauce. So like when it's like...

It's fried, seasoned well, and then tossed in the sauce so it's nice and hot. Then with a garlic dip of some kind. I feel like, yeah, that's a great starter. This is, yeah, solid. And this is, I mean, we know this chicken's going to be nice and moist. Absolutely. That is number one. Moist is such a weird word, isn't it? It is a weird word. It upsets a lot of people. I mean, I'm absolutely fine with it, but it just sounds...

I don't know what it sounds like, but it just doesn't. Weirdly, I think if you're saying I want the chicken to be moist, that was fine to me initially. But now you've pointed out that moist's weird. When I just said I want the chicken to be moist, that made me feel odd. It made you feel weird. Sorry about that. Yeah, it just made something out of nothing, didn't it? Yeah, you've ruined chicken for me. You know, other people have done that.

You're only thinking it because other people have said it to you. Yeah. It's a long chain of just people saying it's weird. Yeah. Because one person said it was. So whoever that person was in the world that said it to me ruined it for everyone. Yeah, yeah. But what else do you say? Juicy? Yeah, juicy. Is that weird as well? That also sounds weird. Yeah. Sopping wet? Wow. Wow. End of the podcast. That's it. That's been real. That's it, man.

I say it's over. Where do we go from here? Sorry. Is there a certain place where you've had chicken strips or chicken wings, which you'd be like, I want it from there? I went to like a wings place in America where I had, I think they were mango habanero though. Like, yeah, that was, they were really good. They were like, they were really hot, but they're just sweetness just made you forget about how much it was like burning your mouth.

but they were really good but actually something I really like to make at home something I make at home all the time yeah so I either make the yeah make the strips or make the wings and then just like bit of butter like sriracha buffalo sauce and honey and then bubble it down on the stove and then flip them in and just when they're nice and hot it's really good yeah well you can have your own ones yeah you can have your homemade strips homemade wings yeah I think both you know

Yeah. Yeah, again, like, just do mix and match. You see, the thing is, right, because I'm Caribbean, like, we have about a thousand things on a plate. Like, every time we have dinner, it's about how many items can you fit on there. You go to a party and you'll have, like, jerk chicken, rice and peas, plantain dumplings, coleslaw, like, steamed cabbage. There's, like,

10,000 things on a plate so we don't know how to just be like okay protein carbs veg doesn't make sense to us we're like why don't we have 100 carbs 100 proteins and 100 veg because yeah it's just I think it's just the way we are so I'm just I'm just greedy yeah

You want a bit of everything, I understand that. Yeah. If it's all on offer. Well, this is it, yeah. And like you said, it's dream, isn't it? So do what you want. Yeah, I think starter having both of them is great with the dip as well. Because it's your dream, we'll make sure it's the exact right amount of dip as well.

as well you're not running out yeah or having loads left over or having loads left over and having to get your weightlifter buddies to finish it for you this is it story of my life but yeah no I always feel like you know when you've got loads of dip left over it's such a waste isn't it you know when you've got loads of mayo packets and you squirt them all out and then you've got like loads left you're like oh I've just wasted all that mayo for no reason

Now I'm just imagining you carrying around those little squash sachets and mayo packets. You've just got so many sachets on you at all times. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. You should see when I go to internationals, I take that seasoning out with me and everything. I'm like, yeah. How do you get into like weightlifting in the first place as well? Like you said about growing up, it just made me think about how like,

How do you discover that's my sport? Yeah, so I was actually 21 when I started weightlifting. So I was at uni. I went to Leeds Beckett and I did athletics. So I threw hammer, shot discus,

And I was alright. I enjoyed it. To be fair, I just loved more of the social side of it and going to competitions. And I was like, oh, you know, if I push myself a little bit harder, how well could I be at it? And then everyone was like, you should try weightlifting because weightlifting will help you throw the shot further because you'll get stronger and it's good for transfer of power, etc., etc., etc.

So there was a coach at the time and I just asked him, I said, oh, will you teach me this weightlifting stuff? Like everyone said it would help me throw the shot further. So yeah, he started teaching me the technique of it, started doing it and just really fell in love with it. Like I just fell in love with the complexity of it. One day I went and yeah,

it was going really well and I was thinking, I'm getting good at this. And the next day I looked like I'd never done it in my life. And it was so frustrating. I just wanted to keep going back and like make, trying to get better and better. And then, yeah, at one point I started, I started it probably when I went back to uni. So I was in my final year in 2015 and started it. And then the coach said to me, oh, we're going to have like a, what we call max out. So it's basically you go as heavy as you can until you fail.

and we had to max out and I maxed out what you needed to qualify for the British seniors. And he was like, I know you didn't want to do a comp because obviously you just want it for your athletics, but do you want to just give it a go, see what happens? And I was like, oh, why, whatever.

So I went to this company, ended up being this, this open actually was near where I live in Nottingham, it was in Mansfield. And I remember saying to my dad, I was like, dad, do you fancy coming to this weightlifting competition with me? He said, weightlifting? He went, yeah, all right, whatever. Like he's just, my parents are just so supportive. Like literally I told him, I was like, I'm going to try weightlifting. Mom said, oh God, here we go. She made me say, oh God, it is a crazy idea. Cause I'm, I'm one of them. I'm not really that,

scared to fail like I just think give it a whack if it works it works if it don't it don't I'll just move on and find something else like we can't be good at everything can we and yeah I went to talk my dad to this comp with me blah blah and then I qualified for the British seniors from that competition

And my dad got in the car and he's a man of many few words. But he talked to me and he went, yeah, you're all right, you know. And I was like, cheers, dad. And then that kind of literally how it started really. And then, yeah, just start going to, you know, national competitions. And then I won my first national title as a junior. And then I won my first national title as a senior. And then, yeah, it just spiraled from there. And then they said to me, oh, we think you could go to Commonwealth Games. And I was thinking that this is getting out of control. Like, I

I've been lifting five minutes. I know I'm all right. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, you not forgot why I actually came for. Um, and then, yeah, I, yeah, I had a crack qualifying for gold coast. 2018 had one qualified to do it and I nailed it. I went six or six, not the girl at the rankings that was already currently in the rankings. Fuck you.

Not really. Not really. We love you. But yeah, just basically did exactly what they asked of me. And then, yeah, got selected for Gold Coast. And that was when really the serious, because up in that point, I was winging it. I was just having a blast. I was thinking I'm getting to go to these countries for free and lifted a few heavy weights and didn't really have like any structure or anything. It was just like a bit of a, you know, I was still working and everything. It was just like a, you know, hobby for me, really, that I was really good at.

And then after Gold Coast, I was like, yeah, if this is sick, imagine what the Olympics is like. I was like, let me try and see if I can make the Olympics. I mean, at that point, if you looked at me on paper, they'd have said, all right, babes, dream on. Yeah.

Yeah, no way on this planet I would have made it. But yeah, no, I just, you know, then I started like making decisions that was kind of around training instead of like training being around my life. And then it was just like dialing in with things like nutrition and training harder and that kind of thing. And, you know, really dialing in and went from strength to strength and then qualified for my first Olympics in 2021. So yeah, exactly five years after I started the sport. Wow. Amazing. I think five years into stand-up, that's still shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. He saw me. I saw you. Do you know what though?

It is so much harder than like people make out. Like everyone thinks, oh yeah, I'm dead funny, I'm dead funny. And then go stand in front of a group of people and be dead funny. It's a whole different ball game, isn't it? Well, yeah. See, I thought you were starting to talk about weightlifting again. And I was like, yeah. And then when it was like stand up, I was like, no, no, no. I'm not putting the weight on the front of my neck. I'm not doing all that stuff. Do you get people like that? Have you had that with weightlifting? People going, I reckon I could do that. Yeah.

Oh yeah, all the time. Obviously, especially men. Bless them. Do you know what I mean? Shout out fellas. Shout out to my dogs.

But they do, they're like, yeah, yeah, it's dead easy. I remember once actually I had a party at my house and some of my friends came over and he brought a couple of his friends and he was like chilling with his boys outside and one of his boys was like, yeah, it's dead easy. And his friend just went, don't ever embarrass me like that again. It's not that easy. You can't do what she does. Don't embarrass me, please. But his boy was probably like, yeah, it's easy, man. I can do it. I can do it. And his friend, my friend just looked at him and just went, don't you dare ever again.

but yeah it is funny but the thing is like it's really funny actually because like at an elite level it is probably one of the hardest sports that you can do but actually grassroots is very accessible it looks hard but if you have the right people around you and you start in the correct way and you start with the correct weights then it is really easy and people would be really surprised actually what they can achieve so I do think in that way you can it's just when these people just think oh

because I've deadlifted 70 kilos I'm going to try and clean it like it don't it don't work like that it don't translate it's so technical it's like it's not just the weight which I think a lot of people going I could do that definitely couldn't even do the weight it's every single

and you've got to have it completely locked in, haven't you? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's so technique. Like when I started, I was obviously really strong from the shot and I trained, you know, hard and I was humbled, like absolutely. And weights that I was probably strength-wise capable of, I was nowhere near in weightlifting because my technique

wasn't there and it is just about drilling and keep going over and over again and this is why you know technically we like to get kids into weightlifting around eight years old because they're really good at learning the technique and it's not about putting the weight on you can give them a wooden pole or bar or pvc or whatever and it's just about them drilling the movement over and over again

because then once you've got that locked in then getting strong is the easy bit whereas when you have to do it in reverse you have to like really humble yourself because you're like I've got to go back down to basics and get this bit right until I can actually put some weight on so yeah that's why it's a lot easier just to say oh I could do that and then never try absolutely yeah

Yeah, absolutely. You don't have to follow through. I wish I'd done that with stand-up. Yeah. I wish I'd been one of the... I'd be real happy now, with a bloke in a pub, just saying, I could have done it. Yeah. I'm funny. I could have done that. I could have done it. Listen to Off Menu, with Ed Gamble and Ish Kumar. I'd just go, I'll be funnier than these pricks.

It'd be great. God, that would be a good podcast. The technique thing's mad. Watching you, when you bend down to pick it up, you put your hands on the bar and then you move them to somewhere else on the bar. I remember watching it and being like, I wouldn't have thought of that. LAUGHTER

She's not riffing it in the moment. I'll be absolutely fucked before I even booted up. You go like that, you put them on, and then you go, what? And then you move them again. I don't even know what that's about. But you seem to be imagining it as if you're in the Olympics and you've never weightlifted before. Because you would have done some training. You'd be taught how to do it. I don't know, man. It's something you can't teach. Everyone's different, to be fair. What it is, is there's what we call rings on the bar in between the knurlings. And it's...

it's me measuring that my hands are in the right place. So I'm about a thumb and a half whips away from those where those rings are. So it's just me measuring that out so that I make sure I put my hands in the right position each time.

Because again, yeah, if you, if you grips off, you know, cause we have to be completely locked out. So if you've got one arm that's in and then you obviously flip right and this one goes in after they'll do you for it. So, and honestly, I mean, I mean, Tokyo Olympics, if you wobbled your eye in the wrong way, they did you for it. There was being so savage, it was unbelievable. So you have to make sure everything's like bang on the money and perfect. Yeah. Honestly, I told you it's cause you get that walk out. Yeah.

walk out and wave no one cares honestly and it must be annoying especially in your sport knowing that you could beat them up yeah I mean that's the thing some of them are ex-weightlifters not sure how good they were but yeah so they're jealous basically they're jealous probably never even thought about it like that Ed they are that's why they give us so many red lights wow

A bunch of pipsqueaks. You should call them pipsqueaks for their faces. I haven't heard that phrase in a long time. Strong one though, isn't it? Yeah. Pipsqueaks. It is good. How about that as a compromise? They're allowed their walkout, but someone has to say, please welcome the pipsqueaks. That's actually genius. There you go. Everyone's happy. I'm going to recommend it when I go back. And they play music, but it's just one long fart sound effect. Please welcome the pipsqueaks.

Oh. Okay.

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Your dream main course? So I am massive seafood fan. So a seafood boil. Like one of those, you just like rip the bag open, let it all fall down. All the different seafoods, potatoes in there, eggs. Get a bib on.

Get your gloves on. Yeah. Crack it all open. Yeah. Love it. Absolutely love it. Proper, just a messy food as well. Yeah. Proper messy, but it just tastes so good. Loads of like garlic butter to dip your lobster and your crab and that in. So there's lobster, there's crab, shrimp. Shrimp, yeah. Big king prawns. To be fair, I do like mussels.

So yeah, just I'm like any, any seafood really. There's not really a sea. Yeah. We're both going to make a shit joke that when you said, yeah, I do like muscles. And then we're like, why bother? It's just, I mean, we both looked at each other and went, yeah, muscles. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, all the listeners just did it at home anyway. Just did the joke. Do you like your light muscles? Yeah. No point us.

You got enough of those already? Yeah, exactly. Shells on with the mussels? Yeah. You're getting into them? Yeah, yeah. Getting to them. It's not a dainty meal, is it? I mean, you may as well leave the shells in and just get headlong into it. That's it. I feel like it's part of the experience, though, cracking it open and digging it out and all of that. Obviously, it is fiddly work, isn't it? Getting everything out and whatever. Hopefully, they've cleaned everything properly before it's been boiled.

but yeah corn on the cob in there as well corn on the cob solid absolutely yeah absolutely gotta have a bit of veg on you yeah just a little bit just to say you take the box yeah yeah really no one actually really cares about it yeah just help everything go down yeah yeah yeah gotta have the first like Mary Poppins song about corn on the cob makes the and

I'll remember it. My friend Tom does seafood boils for delivery. And then you, it has like the instructions and you just do it all. Yeah. It's amazing. That's brilliant because that's been needed for a very long time.

because it is a nightmare to try and go out and get all the ingredients separately. Yeah, yeah. He does like pop-ups as well, so well worth looking out for. Decatur is the name of the company. Decatur. Well done, Tom. What do you want on your bib? Do you want a design on it? This is your dream meal. You get your dream bib. Dream bib. Because you haven't had...

A bib on the pod, yeah. I don't think we have had a bib on the pod. We've talked about bibs. Yeah. Do you know what's fun to say? It's bib on the pod. Bib on the pod. Bib on the pod. Bib on the pod is quite fun to say. I think it'd have to say thick and juicy. Because that's what I am. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Say that on it.

100%. A little cartoon prawn on there or something? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, rocking out. Yeah, why not? Doing some weightlifting? Yeah, why not? Why not? You know, self-seats my whole identity now, so, you know, weightlifting has to be part of everything. Well, it's part of your brand, right? If you're wearing the thick and juicy bib, then it's got to have a weightlifting prawn on it. It's got to have a weightlifting prawn on it.

Yeah. It could have like a little like, you know, the hammer on the floor to represent your past. Oh yeah, just in the distance. In the distance, yeah. Shot put. Yeah, why not? Let's get it all on there. Let's get story on there, guys. Would you be allowed to do two categories at the Olympics? You absolutely can. Yeah, you can qualify for two sports, but obviously you would have to qualify within both sports or whatever because every sport has their own qualification system in terms of making the Olympics. So you just have to make sure that you participate in the two of them. But yeah, I'm not sure if I'd be...

be able to be world class at two of them I mean especially the women's shot at the moment the women's shot is like off the chain at the moment the girls are throwing like 21 metres so if you think about that like how far that actually is it's yeah it's insane it also seems to me like everyone who's at the Olympics has dedicated their entire life to that one sport so you can't dedicate two lives to something yeah yeah it takes a very special person I mean my good friend Kadina

She in Tokyo and Rio did cycling and athletics. She managed to win gold in both. What? Yeah. First woman in 56 years to do it. Something crazy like that.

I mean, she is absolute superwoman, but yeah, she's the 500 meter sprint in cycling and then 400 meters on the track. But I know how tough it has been for her to train for the two sports, like to try and split your time between the two. You just cycle to running training. Yeah, that's the point. I think, I don't think you get credit if one of them's cycling. Yeah.

I've got mates who cycle to the office. Wow, this is it. Do you ever go up to the people who are doing shop and stuff because you used to do it? Be like the guy at your party. Be like, I could have done that.

that yeah yeah oh yeah we all sports easy I tell Tom Dean all the time swimming's dead easy just get in don't die swim to the other side get in don't die he's always like oh you always train I'm like yeah well we have to actually train for our sports you just do a couple of sessions a week you'll be fine

I would say... No offense to swimmers, I know it's actually hard, but... If part of the technique is don't die, it's quite a hard sport. Yeah. I'd say if don't die is one of the things you've got to focus on, it's pretty hard for them. But that's a broad note for everything. I mean, to be fair, yeah, you could apply that to every sport, right? Yeah, don't die. I mean, some of those team sports are savage. They're like smacking each other. Have you ever seen wheelchair rugby? Yeah. Them guys are... Wow. Yeah. It really is something. Yeah. I'll be...

I wouldn't even move. As soon as the whistle blew, I'd just be in my chair, but I'm not doing this. Dream side dish. I

I'd probably say a mac and cheese. Yeah. Yeah. Nicely baked as well. You don't want the cheese sauce too runny. You want a bit of sauce, but like in the Caribbean, we have it like it's like a pie, essentially. Good breadcrumbs on the top. Nice melt. Bit of parsley to finish it off. I watched a video on YouTube of, I think it was five people all made their mac and cheese. I think they're all from the Caribbean as well. And then they were trying each other's ones and scoring them. They were savage in how they were scoring each other's ones.

scored each other's mac and cheese they were like this is I would not serve this at my house that's pretty close to starting a world war that's wild behaviour specifically in the Caribbean yeah yeah just in the Caribbean but yeah I can imagine that got pretty intense a lot of the criteria you just described as well people were like this is too runny I would not serve this at a party and also but bigging up their own ones obviously because they were really proud of it

every time I have a barbecue, everyone comes over, everyone loves this. People can't get enough of it. Everyone asks for thirds. It's true. It's pressure. Yeah, I actually remember my friends had a party and I cooked like two real big trays of it. And I was like sweating the whole time because I'm thinking, I think I'm banging at mac and cheese. And if these people don't like it, then it's just basically threw everything out the window of what I believed in myself. Yeah.

Wow. That's quite... For an Olympian to say that, that's pretty... Everything you believed about yourself is mainly that you make good mac and cheese. Yeah, absolutely. But thankfully they all loved it. Unless he was lying to me. You've got a secret when you make it? Can I reveal that? Yeah, so that's what you've got to ask yourself. You need to get a good hot sauce. A good hot sauce that goes into the cheese.

cheese sauce then and take time with your cheese sauce as well you know people like to rush cheese sauces but you've got to make you know you've got to make your roux properly and then it's got to be the right amount of cheese and milk and that in there and you've got to you've got it's all about layering it's all about layering your sauce layering the flavours do you talk to your cheese sauce as you're making it absolutely yeah fair enough if the answer is yes but

Well, just the way Emily said, you've got to take time with the cheese sauce. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So it's just... It seemed like a wild question, but then the answer was yes. Good intuition, Ed.

Yeah, you taste it along the way and you get excited because it's starting to come together. Yeah. I mean, I just talk in general anyway. When I'm cooking, like, honestly, I think I could make a show out of, like, people sat in another room hearing me cook in the kitchen. I'm on my own completely and you would think I'd be having a conversation with someone. So, yeah, you just get into it, you know. Once you get the tunes on and you get, like, rocking and rolling and, you know, you've got a hundred, like we said, you know, you've got a hundred dishes to get on one plate, you know, you've got to get cracking, you've got to get in the mode. Yeah.

So what do you say to the cheese sauce? Are you kind to the cheese sauce or are you like, come on, you cheese sauce bitch? I think it depends. You're getting in trouble for that. I think it depends on how it's going. Yeah. If it's working with you or not. Yeah, that's it. We're all happy when things are going well, aren't we?

when it's not all of a sudden a sign comes out we didn't know we had what hot sauce do you use I actually it's a homemade one and I can't remember the brand but they used to come on Nottingham Christmas Market every year you don't come anymore so if you know who you are you need to come back please and he's got like this basically his own brand hot sauce on there it's like it's called a Caribbean hot

hot sauce but it's got a little bit sweet bit bit spicy and it's really nice it really really complements the mac and cheese well i think i've got like one bottle left but yeah i need to find that who that person is and track them down what else is on this not in a market is it christmas market it's christmas market we have a good christmas market to be fair not in them yeah we have a good one there's quite a few bits and bobs i mean lots more food and stuff now and then obviously they've done like a bar and we have the ice skating rink and all that nonsense

But there used to be some like really good stalls of, yeah, just cheeses, hot sauces, things like that. And then there was like, obviously, little trinkets, you know, the ones your mum loves to go and walk around and get files and things from. And she's dragging you, oh, look at this, oh, look at this. And you're like, yeah, that's lovely, mum, that's lovely. That's the same as the one you just picked up. That's really nice. That is, you know, you get dragged around for like an hour. Everyone's done it. Everyone's been there. But she's your mum, so you do it. Yeah.

Yeah, it's quite a good market to be fair. We try and make an effort to go down each year and have a look and see what they've got on stall. But yeah, definitely taking more of like the food stands are taking over a little bit more now than the actual stalls. But yeah, no, I like to buy from small businesses. Small businesses, yeah.

people that are, you know, different and out there. I try and, you know, things like that. I like a lot of black owned art as well. So I try and find artwork from my house, from black artists and things like that. So yeah, that's something that's quite close to me. So anything like that, I'm pretty sold. What's got pride of place amongst the art that you've got in your house? What's your favourite piece that you show off to people? I've got canvas in my room. There's a pretty cool one that I actually had for a shoot.

I had to have an imaginary bedroom for a shoot and they gave it to me after, which is really cool. So that's now in my bedroom, but it's like I have a woman and it's got like flowers painted behind her and it's got like really powerful words like all over, all over her body. Ed's actually in my house as well. What? It's a photo from when we was on Great British Menu. It's a good photo. Ed's in my house. Ed's in my living room. Yeah. You know, it's a good photo. We look good. Yeah. We had a lovely day. We got that cool school shirt on or whatever it was. Yeah. I'm a cool guy. Yeah.

we look good I keep telling him I'm a cool guy I'd say a picture of Ed Gamble is the opposite of black-owned arse laughs

the whitest thing you can put in your house. Ed Gamble on Great British Menu. Yeah. Are you kidding me? Or is he eating a souffle? Yeah, I think he ate his fish here. But yeah, no. But no, I'm definitely on the hunt for some more. I need some more for my stairs and landing. Everyone, just send Emily as much art as you can. Try and get on that stairs and landing. Also, you know, British comedians, if Ed Gamble could get on the wall.

Yeah. We've all got to try and get on the stairs. You've got to get on the stairs. I've got to get on those stairs. That's it. We're going to have a photo after this. Yeah, maybe. With the photos running off. Yeah. Yeah. We'll send you a decent photo. Sounds good. Sounds good. When you're talking about hot sauce there, I just remembered a hot sauce that I love but I haven't had for ages, which is Caribbean hot sauce. Aunt May's. Have you had Aunt May's before? Oh, Aunt May's is a good one to be fair. And it comes in like the, it looks like a lemonade bottle. Yes. Yes.

So good. Yes, that is a good one. I can't remember where I tried that. I think that was at like a family friend's house or something and I was like, oh, this is really good. I think it's like from Barbados or something. Yeah, I think it is. Yeah. I've never heard of it. You've got to get some Aunt May's. You've got to get some Aunt May's in your life. Change your life. And then you get on the stairs. Finally. Picture me on the stairs with a glug in a bottle of Aunt May's. That's it. I mean, that's black owned, isn't it? Yeah, there you go.

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anything like really fruity like tropical so I'd say probably like something with like pineapple juice maybe a bit of grenadine in it mango mango daiquiris mango daiquiris is a strong one I was drinking that in Jamaica quite a lot but yeah anything like anything mocktail style basically just a load of fruit juices banged together with something fizzy posh squash sold posh squash yeah but we'll save the squirty

squash for the water. Sure. Yeah, we won't get that involved. As a mocktail drinker, do you get annoyed when they stick virgin on the front of a normal cocktail? Because I hate asking for that. Because I'm like, can I have a virgin mojito? And I have to, every five of me is trying to say to them, I've had sex. LAUGHTER

Yeah. I'm not a virgin. I just want the drink that has alcohol in it. But you know they're not thinking that, right? They are thinking that. Do you reckon? It's impossible to say that someone can have a virgin daiquiri and they're like, this boy never had sexual intercourse.

Do you know what I mean? I think that might be your vibe rather than the drink. I was about to say, I can't say that I've ever felt that way. Yeah. But... Yeah, I guess when you carry yourself the way that I do, you do have to feel like everyone thinks I'm a virgin. And I have to explain it all the time to people. I swear down and up. Do you not think explaining it's making it worse, though? Yeah, yeah, definitely, actually. They don't seem to believe me. I'm a virgin, but he's like, please, I have had sex. Yeah. But when people are like, no, you haven't. No, I really have. Yeah, I swear.

I've had it and it was great two thumbs up from me yeah Kenny used to sit next to me in school

And he would just, you know, everyone else was pretending they'd had sex at that age. They'd be like, you know, get back from summer holidays and been like, yeah, yeah, I totally did it with someone. And she goes to another school or she lives in another country or whatever. But he would like say to me, he was like, I've never had sex with you. I'm a virgin. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. He was like, man, it's going to feel so good. Yeah.

I can't wait till we get to have sex with people one day. Can you imagine? And he would sit next to me in RE class and he'd go, can you imagine how good it's going to be? I can't wait to do it. And I'd be like, yeah, but it'd be good. He was like, no, it will be amazing, Jay. I can't wait. All I want to do is do it. I want to have sex so badly. Wow. I really hope his first time was everything it was all cracked up to be. That's a lot of pressure to put on it, isn't it? Too much pressure. That is a lot of pressure. Yeah. Yeah. Bless him. I,

Actually, I mean, we can not talk about this if you want. This is just, I didn't plan, but I had to write something once, a scripted thing about the Olympic village and do research into it. No virgins there. Yeah. That place is bananas. It's,

It's a bit... We don't have to talk about it. No, no, absolutely. I mean, everybody wants to know, don't they? Everyone always asks the question. But yeah, obviously, you just got to imagine it's like lots of very good looking people all in one place that have been disciplined for four years. And now you're not disciplined anymore because the one thing that your whole life has been dedicated to four years is now over. So you can do whatever you want for the next, you know, how many days, whatever.

And you're not going to see these people. You might never see these people again. You might not see them until another four years. So, yeah, people just get a bit, you know, acquainted. That sounds pretty reasonable, actually. Yeah, that's what I mean when you put it like that. That's to hear a reasonable take on it. Yeah. I mean, some people I don't think wait until their event's done, but that's their business. What, during? Yeah. Good to qualify for that. But, yeah. Well, not actually at the event, but, you know, yeah.

in the downtime but yeah I think it's um is that the kind of humour sorry yeah that's perfect that's perfect for me that's good deliberately misunderstanding something yeah he loves it yeah it's good yeah

The swimmers apparently though. Yeah, I heard they're pretty, well, I mean, they are wild. Like, I'm not sure about the sexual activities. They're in their trunks all the time. Yeah, yeah, 100%. That's what I mean. But they are, yeah, they're absolutely wild. They, when they party after they finish, they, yeah, they really party.

part because they finish early they finish early always finish in the first week so yeah they love to party when everyone else is still trying to compete I mean I missed them this time because I was the last day of the game so I'd actually didn't get into the village until the swimmers lord left but yeah I heard there was partying hard again I mean in Tokyo yeah there was like swimming there was like these fountains and apparently there was swimming in the fountains and all sorts and

yeah they was having a they was having a real good time they love swimming yeah they just love it you know what I mean it's just them it's their identity you know what mocktail are we going for specifically I know we didn't we didn't really nail it down did I it was a bit wishy washy as you said mango mango daiquiri mango daiquiri is a strong one brilliant

Your dream dessert? We arrive at the dessert. My favourite course. So I, very controversially, don't really like chocolate. If I do, it has to be white chocolate. But I think my dessert would be cheesecake.

So plain and simple New York cheesecake with fresh fruit or a fresh compote. I'm very like, I do like strawberries, raspberries, that kind of vibe, I think with a compote and then some form of like ice cream on the side. Can't beat a bit of cheesecake. Yeah. I mean, tell me just one. Yeah.

You hear that? It's been rumbling every now and again throughout the whole episode. It has been. I'm hungry. I didn't have breakfast. And then we started talking about seafood boils. Yeah, yeah. As soon as you started talking about the seafood boil, that's when I heard it the first time. Yeah, it's gone. Why don't you like chocolate? I don't know. I just think it's very overrated. Oh, come on. Yeah, I don't. It just doesn't do anything for me. James was really worried when he said, controversially, I don't like. He thought you were going to say desserts. So he was all ready to get really angry with you. But I can't. I can't get angry with you. Yeah. Kick the fucking shit out of me.

I'm strong but I can't fight so it's alright. Come on, I'm a virgin mate. It's true. I'm not going to get angry at you but I would have been sad if you didn't choose a dessert. No, I've definitely got a sweet tooth like love desserts or whatever but just not chocolate based desserts. If I was to give them a chocolate pudding or cake or brownie or anything that's like my worst nightmare. Your worst nightmare? Yeah.

pretty nice life I guess yeah yeah if the brownies are worth nightmare how does this grab you I've got a slice of cheesecake in my fridge at the moment if you think this has gone too far apparently it's protein cheesecake

Honestly, they want to make everything protein-based these days, innit? It's mad. Just give it up. It's got a cartoon of a barbell on the side. Has it actually? That's outrageous. Does it taste alright? I've not had it yet. It's an individual slice. I don't know why I bought it, to be honest. It's probably made out of, like, cork or something, isn't it? Yeah. Something weird like that. We just...

Honestly, this is a big gripe of mine, this whole protein thing. We don't need to make everything protein. They've even tried to make water protein now. It's actually getting out of control. There's foods that have protein in them. They're just fine. They're lovely. The foods that haven't, just leave them without. We don't need to keep doing it all the time. It's like we keep making these protein yogurts.

Yoghurt has protein in it, like already. Why are we putting more protein into something that already has protein? Just doesn't make any sense to me. It's just this whole new like fad and whatever. And it's people that have no clue what they're doing, bless them, going out and buying. And really I said like, unless you can like, unless as a female you can squat over like 60, 70 kilos and there's a man over 120, stop buying protein products. They're not going to help you. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I saw a really...

I'm fine. I saw a really tough looking, tough looking guy. Solid. Like, really solid, tough looking guy come out of Tesco eating a Crunch Corner. That was funny. You see someone really, really tough. Crunch Corner. Yeah. Just like standing in the street. Yeah. That's why he had to put it on a... What was his style? Well, he had to put it on top of a bin.

to open it up. Yeah. And then, and then he didn't tip it, actually. He didn't tip it. He had his shades on and he was acting like he was too cool to tip it. He talked to his friend walking along and his friend was much shorter than him. And they're just walking and he's got a crunched corner in his hand and they're talking about what they're going to get up to. Like, the day is young. Come on, let's go out and get it. And he's like,

You can't crunch Gordon, man. And the one with the little, the little like cocoa balls. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one as well. So he didn't tip it, so he was like... I didn't know, you know, he didn't tip it when I was watching. You didn't witness the tipping. I didn't witness the tip. Maybe his small friend had the little balls.

Gave him it as a little shot. Tore it off. There you go. There you go, buddy. There you go, bud. I love the yogurt. Protein. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The protein yogurt. Oh, man. I didn't know all this about protein. I didn't know about protein water. Yeah. And they're like protein pancakes, protein. There's literally like a whole range now of everything that's just like protein. And it's like sometimes it's even a rip off. Like I eat a lot of cottage cheese.

I've got like one of the most elite snacks against sweet chili rice crackers and cottage cheese and like eat them together after training. So good.

And there was like, oh, protein cottage cheese. So I picked it up and I looked at the back of it and it probably has 0.2 or 3 more grams of protein in than the normal cottage cheese. So it's like, they're charging you probably another one, two pound more for something that actually really don't have much difference than the normal cottage cheese. It's just a lot of marketing, isn't it? It is. I think they're hoping that if someone sees protein on something, they're like, I'm going to eat that and I'm going to get such big muscles. Yeah, I'm going to be hench and you're absolutely not. Right.

I still bought the cheesecake. Yeah, worse than these kind of idiots. I'm a sucker. I'm putting it ahead for the listener. I mean, you've got to let us know how that cheesecake tastes now. Yeah, I will. Absolutely. You've got to have it on another episode and you can tell us how nice that is. I bet it's not good. And it's only like 12 grams of protein or something. Just have an egg. I'll read your menu back to you now. See how you feel about it.

You would like orange and pineapple squash, double strength for your water. You want warm chapatta and focaccia bread basket with butter. Starter, you would like buttermilk breaded chicken strips and wings with honey and sriracha sauce made by yourself. Main course, a seafood boil with your own bib, custom-made bib. Side dish, baked mac and cheese, also made by yourself. Drink, you would like a mango daiquiri mocktail. Dessert, New York... Good June! Ed, show some goddamn respect.

Some of us are saving ourselves. I can't wait. It's going to feel so good. It's going to feel so great. I can't wait to do it. I can't wait. I think about it all the time. We know when you order a mojito that you've done it. What? Mojito, please. You go back to the same place. Hold the virgin. That's how things start. Desserts.

A New York cheesecake with berry compote and ice cream. Yes. Good menu? I'm pretty happy with that. I think that's solid. Yeah, that is good. Yeah. That sounds really good. And quite a lot of your own cooking on there as well. Yeah. Yeah. Which is great. Don't get me wrong, I love eating out, but I think that's a lot of what I do is I eat out and then I think, oh, how can I recreate that at home? Yeah. And then I go home and try and make my own version of it. But yeah, no, I just love cooking. I love cooking. I think it's something you definitely do on your own. You don't do with others. Yeah.

Really? You couldn't cook with others? Yeah, people in my kitchen stresses me out. What do you do if people come in your kitchen? Get out. Thank you. It's really nice to see you. But if you're going to stay there, can you stand over there, please? And coming back to what we started talking about at the start of the episode, if you ate all of that, if that was your meal, how soon after that would you have to eat again?

To be fair, that's like incorporating snacks, I think, in everything. That's a pretty big meal. So I probably could get away with probably not eating for probably about four hours and then I'd probably have to eat again. And then pre-bed snack. And the cottage cheese comes out. Yeah, yeah. Beef jerky's come in and then that's it. We're ready to go again. I'm aware we've been talking for over an hour now, so you probably need to eat something.

Yeah, no, absolutely. We're probably responsible for you going down to place at the next competition. Yeah. Because we talked through snack time. Yeah, because mid-morning snack is now the lead. Oh, yeah. Okay, well, thank you very much for coming on the podcast, Emily. Please go and have a snack. Thank you, Emily. Thank you so much, Emily.

Thank you so much to the brilliant Emily Campbell for coming on the podcast, James. An honour. What a great episode. I learnt so much. Yeah, she's so much fun. Yeah, I mean, I literally, you know, just know nothing about that world. So what an education. Yeah, I mean, me neither. Even though I try and do weightlifting sometimes, James. It's pathetic. Yeah? I've neither mastered the technique nor the strength. Well, I think all the listeners would love it if you posted videos online

Because that's what people do when they want to get better at something nowadays. They video themselves, they put it on their social media to hold themselves accountable so they'll keep doing it. So then loads of people comment below going, you've got shit form, mate. No, no, no. You're going to run to your back like that? Comments will be knighted. So you've got to start doing that. You've got to start filming yourself doing your weights and putting it on your Instagram. It's not really my style. It's not my style to do that, really. Switch up your style. People love it when people switch up their style. When the Beatles did it, that was huge.

So you see this as like a Beatles shift. It's just like your Sergeant Pepper. Yeah. Is that the phase I'm in at the moment, pre-Sergeant Pepper? Yeah, you're in your revolver. So you're just moving over. People can see it's coming. And the next step up is me posting weightlifting pictures, videos on Instagram. Yeah, and people will be excited. God, he's this guy now. And Emily's got a brand new podcast, James. Contender! Ready! Ready!

That's what it's called. It's an unofficial Gladiators podcast that Emily is co-hosting with another former guest of the Off Menu podcast, Jess Fosterkew. And it is out now wherever you listen to your podcasts. And for the listener, because we've got some, you know, we've got listeners all over the globe. So some of them are thinking, oh, wow, they've got a podcast about Gladiator 2, the Paul Mescal film. No. That's great. Everyone's been watching that at the cinema. It's not that.

It's a TV show called Gladiators. Yes, that's what it's about. Great TV show and I can't wait to hear the podcast. Yeah.

Yeah, but I would also like Jess and Emily to do a podcast about the Gladiator film franchise. Yes. As well. I would like to hear that. I think that would be good. Yes. Benito, sort it out. Make it so. Oh, Emily as well. Thank you so much for not saying. Cream of chicken Campbell's soup or whatever Campbell's soup it was. Yes, thank you for that, Emily. Thank you so much. Yes. Other Campbell's, Benito's, let us know that we could have on. The footballer's soul, Campbell's.

And Naomi Campbell, who you know, so... I know her. Yeah. We did Jonathan Ross together, sat next to me. Enough about Naomi Campbell. Thank you to the brilliant Emily Campbell for coming on the podcast. Yes, thank you so much. And Ed, do you want to say anything else before we let the listeners get on with their day? No. No, not really, I guess. Well, listen, we don't often say this to you guys, but thanks for listening. We say it every week, I think. I can't keep track of... That's your stomach going now.

Yeah, sound like a little dinosaur. Yeah. Yeah. Like a little baby dinosaur. We've got to go eat. We've got to go eat, guys. Thanks for listening. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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