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Replay: Plant-based foods need a makeover, with Peter McGuinness

2024/12/31
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Peter McGuinness: 植物肉行业需要彻底改变市场营销和产品开发方式。我们不能依靠广告投入超过肉类行业,而要依靠更精明的策略和合作。 植物肉行业尚未真正开始,各公司应合作而非竞争,共同开拓市场。目前面临的困境是正常的调整,而非彻底失败,需要积极应对。 植物肉公司的目标不应是互相竞争,而是共同开拓更大的市场,即1.4万亿美元的动物肉市场。 我们对“人造肉”、“假肉”等负面标签的回应不力,导致消费者对其健康性的误解。植物肉产品的营养价值不低于甚至高于动物肉类产品,我们需要积极主动地反驳负面宣传,维护产品形象。 植物肉产品的营销重点应放在美味和营养上,而非气候变化等议题。早期营销策略过于政治化和对抗性,导致消费者反感。 行业应转变营销策略,以包容的态度吸引更多消费者,鼓励消费者将植物肉融入现有饮食习惯,而非完全替代。 Impossible Foods的营销策略应突出产品美味和低胆固醇等优点,而非气候环保。 植物肉行业需要采取更精明的策略,利用合作关系来弥补资源不足。行业内部公司应加强合作,共同应对来自传统肉类行业的竞争。 Impossible Foods致力于自身发展的同时,也希望帮助其他植物肉公司共同进步。植物肉公司之间应保持合作关系,共同开拓市场。 植物肉行业需要重新审视自身策略,并勇于承认失败。需要彻底改变市场营销、沟通和产品开发方式。 植物肉行业发展潜力巨大,市场渗透率很低,还有很大的增长空间。 虽然气候变化是植物肉行业的重要议题,但目前营销重点应放在产品本身。Impossible Foods的目标是通过推广植物肉产品来减少环境影响,但营销策略应侧重于产品本身的吸引力。 Impossible Foods将结合科技公司和食品公司的优势来运作。 Bob Safian: 引导访谈,提出问题,并对Peter McGuinness的观点进行回应和补充。

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Why does Peter McGuinness believe the plant-based meat industry needs a complete overhaul?

Peter McGuinness believes the plant-based meat industry needs to overhaul its marketing, communication, and product development strategies because the current approach has failed to resonate with consumers. The industry has been declining, and he emphasizes the need to outsmart the meat industry rather than outspend it. He also highlights the importance of collaboration within the industry to grow the overall category rather than competing for a small share of the market.

What is the main market Peter McGuinness wants Impossible Foods to target?

Peter McGuinness wants Impossible Foods to target the $1.4 trillion global animal meat market, which includes chicken, beef, and pork, rather than focusing on the $8 billion plant-based meat market. He believes this approach will drive value for the company, consumers, and the planet.

How has the meat industry influenced public perception of plant-based meat?

The meat industry has successfully influenced public perception by labeling plant-based meat as 'fake,' 'faux,' and 'processed.' These terms have stuck, creating misconceptions about the healthiness of plant-based products. Peter McGuinness acknowledges that the plant-based industry has done a poor job of refuting these claims, which has hurt the sector.

What lessons did Peter McGuinness learn from marketing oat milk at Chobani?

Peter McGuinness learned that marketing should focus on simplicity and inclusivity. At Chobani, oat milk was marketed as 'lactose-free milk' rather than positioning it against the dairy industry. He applies this lesson to Impossible Foods by emphasizing deliciousness and nutrition rather than leading with climate or environmental messaging.

Why does Peter McGuinness believe climate messaging has backfired for plant-based foods?

Peter McGuinness believes climate messaging has backfired because it creates a psychological barrier for consumers. When people hear that a product is good for the climate, they assume it won’t taste good. He argues that the industry should lead with taste and nutrition, and then follow up with climate and animal welfare benefits.

What role do partnerships play in Impossible Foods' strategy?

Partnerships are a key part of Impossible Foods' strategy because they allow the company to reach a broader audience without the need for massive advertising budgets. Collaborations with Burger King, Starbucks, and other food service providers have helped increase brand awareness and distribution.

What is the current household penetration rate for plant-based meat in the U.S.?

The current household penetration rate for plant-based meat in the U.S. is under 10%, meaning that 90% of the country has not yet tried a plant-based option. Peter McGuinness sees this as a significant opportunity for growth.

How does Peter McGuinness view the relationship between Impossible Foods and other plant-based companies?

Peter McGuinness views other plant-based companies as collaborators rather than competitors. He believes the industry should work together to grow the overall category and focus on the larger animal meat market rather than competing for a small share of the plant-based market.

What is the ultimate mission of Impossible Foods according to Peter McGuinness?

The ultimate mission of Impossible Foods is to reverse climate change by reducing the environmental impact of agriculture. However, Peter McGuinness acknowledges that the success of this mission depends on getting more people to eat plant-based products, which requires focusing on taste and nutrition rather than leading with climate messaging.

What challenges does the plant-based meat industry face in terms of distribution?

The plant-based meat industry faces challenges in distribution, with only 60,000 food service locations out of 1.4 million in the U.S. and 1,000 retail distribution points out of 8,000. Peter McGuinness emphasizes the need to expand availability and increase sales efforts to reach more consumers.

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The plant-based meat industry is facing challenges, with sales slowing. Peter McGuinness, CEO of Impossible Foods, attributes this to a market correction and the need for a change in marketing strategies. He emphasizes the importance of collaboration within the industry rather than competition.
  • Plant-based meat sales have slowed significantly.
  • The industry needs to change its marketing and product development.
  • Collaboration is key for the industry's success.

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In this special holiday replay, we share another standout conversation from 2024 featuring Impossible Foods’ Peter McGuinness. This year, sustainability initiatives rolled back across industries and meat alternatives struggled more than ever before on sales.** **McGuinness tells host Bob Safian where plant-based brands made big missteps, and why the industry’s marketing should evolve – potentially away from climate change messaging. McGuinness also shares how Impossible leverages retail partners like Starbucks and Burger King, lessons he learned from scaling oat milk for Chobani, and why Impossible see’s other plant-based players less as competitors and more as collaborative “frenemies.” 

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