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Bank Earnings, PPI Awaited After Another Sell-off

2025/4/11
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Keith Lansford: 本周市场经历了剧烈波动,周四出现大幅下跌,抹去了之前大部分涨幅。周五市场关注的焦点将是几家主要银行的收益报告、生产者物价指数(PPI)以及消费者信心指数。关税问题仍然是市场的主要担忧。 三月消费者物价指数(CPI)显示通胀相对温和,但市场关注点仍然集中在与中国之间的贸易战上。即将公布的三月生产者物价指数(PPI)预计整体PPI持平,核心PPI下降0.1%。 四月密歇根大学消费者信心指数初步报告也即将公布,可能比以往更受关注,因为最近的数据显示经济增长放缓和通胀上升的可能性。三月消费者信心指数最终读数降至57.0,分析师预计今日的数据将显示54.8。投资者将密切关注该报告的内部运作,尤其是对未来一年通胀的预期。 尽管各行业第一季度业绩可能强劲,但鉴于最近的贸易发展,投资者更关注经济数据以及经济衰退的担忧。 银行股下跌并非因为关税直接影响银行,而是因为关税可能对银行客户和经济增长造成影响。投资者可能想知道行业高管对90天延迟和持续对华征收高额关税对经济的最新看法,以及银行可能需要拨备多少资金以应对经济恶化和企业无法偿还贷款的情况。 美国国债市场震荡,表明投资者可能不太愿意购买美国国债,这可能也反映了与关税相关的通胀担忧、对流动性的需求以及投资者在不确定性中转向现金。尽管经济增长放缓,但10年期国债收益率周四晚些时候达到4.40%,高于一周前的4%左右,这加剧了人们对国债市场健康状况的担忧。 周三10年期国债拍卖和周四30年期国债拍卖的需求良好,以及周四温和的3月消费者物价指数,略微缓解了市场紧张情绪;美联储5月份降息的概率为27%,6月份降息的概率为84%。与关税相关的通胀担忧以及如果收益率持续飙升可能出现的信贷市场问题,可能是美联储在5月份会议上避免降息的两个原因。美联储可能不愿放松政策,因为这让人想起2022-23年通胀飙升时央行反应迟缓的情况。 周四,原油价格走弱导致能源板块下跌6%,为标普500指数中表现最差的板块;投资者还逃离了通信服务、非必需消费品和信息技术板块。旅行类股票大幅下跌,服装公司、半导体公司和特斯拉等股票也出现下跌。道琼斯工业平均指数下跌1014.79点,标普500指数下跌188.85点,纳斯达克综合指数下跌737.66点。 Lizanne Saunders: 我认为公司不会提供很多关于前景的具体信息,消费数据和劳动力市场数据尤其重要,因为消费支出占GDP的68%。 Kathy Jones: 对于那些等待美联储降息的人来说,这需要更多的时间和数据,即使美联储降息,债券收益率也可能上升。

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This week's market experienced a significant shift from Wednesday's rally to Thursday's sell-off. The main factors are escalating tariff concerns, the upcoming release of the Producer Price Index (PPI), and the mixed signals from recent inflation data. Consumer sentiment is also a key point of concern.
  • Wednesday's rally reversed into Thursday's sharp losses
  • Tariffs on Chinese goods are higher than initially announced
  • March PPI is expected to show a flat headline and a decline in core PPI
  • March CPI showed relatively mild inflation
  • April University of Michigan Consumer Sentiment Report is expected to show a decline
  • Inflation expectations have risen to their highest since November 2022

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Welcome to the Schwab Market Update podcast, where we prepare you for each trading day with a recap of recent news and a look at what's ahead. I'm Keith Lansford, and here is Schwab's early look at the markets for Friday, April 11th. Wholesale prices and bank earnings dominate proceedings to wrap up a historic week on Wall Street, with tariff worries still front and center as Friday begins after Thursday's sharp losses.

Yesterday's declines followed news that tariffs on Chinese goods were actually 145 percent, higher than the 125 percent initially announced by the White House. Little sign of progress on that front kept stocks under pressure. Turning away from trade, the March Producer Price Index, or PPI, due ahead of the open is expected to show a flat headline PPI and a 0.1 percent decline in core PPI. Core excludes volatile food and energy prices.

Yesterday's March Consumer Price Index, or CPI, showed relatively mild inflation of negative 0.1% month-over-month for headline CPI and a 0.1% gain for core. Analysts had expected 0.1% and 0.3% respectively. Core annual inflation rose 2.8% year-over-year, below 3.1% the prior month, representing progress.

Stocks and bonds reacted little to the data, with focus still centered on the trade war with China. In other data today, the preliminary April University of Michigan Consumer Sentiment Report looms soon after the open and could get more attention than usual after recent sentiment and confidence data suggested a gloomy outlook for slower growth and higher inflation.

The final March headline sentiment reading fell to 57.0, down from 79.4 a year earlier, and analysts expect today's 10 a.m. Eastern time data to show 54.8. Investors will likely keep close watch on the inner workings of the report, especially year-ahead inflation expectations.

Those rose to 5% in March, the highest since November of 2022, and long-run inflation expectations jumped to 4.1% from 3.5% the prior month, the largest increase since 1993, according to Briefing.com. Though some analysts downplay the importance of sentiment data, it's moved markets reasonably as it increasingly shows a stagflationary outlook.

This particular report could also measure consumer sentiment in the early days of April, just as Trump announced his tariff liberation day and the stock market dove. Earnings season, led by banks today, is likely to feature strong first quarter results across sectors, but those won't matter much in light of the recent trade developments that put more focus on economic numbers amid recession worries.

Key earnings this morning include JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, and Morgan Stanley. I don't think we're going to get a lot of specific color on the outlook from companies, said Lizanne Saunders, chief investment strategist at Schwab. I think the consumption data and the labor market data is particularly important to watch, noting that consumption drives 68% of gross domestic product.

Bank earnings come at an auspicious time for the industry and the entire economy following the trade war set off last week by President Trump's tariffs. Bank stocks capsized on the news, not because tariffs directly affect banks, but because of the possible impact on banking clients and economic growth.

Investors likely want to hear the latest thinking from industry executives today on what the 90-day delay and continued heavy tariffs against China might mean for the economy. Another question is how much banks may have to set aside to account for possible defaults if the economy really worsens and companies can't pay their loans. That was a constant worry during the pandemic, with banks taking large provisions for credit losses in the billions of dollars.

If this starts ramping up again, it would likely narrow industry profit margins. Tremors continued in the Treasury market after a spike in yields earlier this week, suggesting investors might be less willing to buy U.S. Treasuries for their perceived safety. Treasury weakness Monday and Tuesday could have also reflected inflation concerns associated with tariffs, the need for liquidity, and investors heading to cash amid uncertainty.

Despite signs of slowing economic growth, the 10-year Treasury note yield hit 4.40% late Thursday, up from around 4% a week ago and raising more concern about the Treasury market's health. Yields rise when Treasuries fall, so Thursday's relatively solid yield performance likely reflects little in the way of safe-haven Treasury buying that's often seen in turbulent times.

Decent demand for Wednesday's 10-year note auction and Thursday's 30-year bond auction calmed nerves slightly, as did Thursday's benign March consumer price index. Odds of a rate cut at the Federal Reserve's May meeting were 27% on the CME FedWatch tool as of late Thursday, but rate cut odds are 84% for June.

Tariff-related inflation concerns could be one concern keeping the Fed from cutting rates at its next meeting in May, but worries about possible credit market issues if yields keep spiraling higher are another issue the Fed might find itself having to address.

Possible tariff-related price pressure comes only a couple of years after the 2022-23 inflation surge, and memories of the central bank's slow inflation response then could keep the Fed hesitant to loosen policy now. The Fed is also responsible for promoting maximum employment, but Fed Chairman Jerome Powell and other policymakers have argued that stamping out inflation can outweigh other economic concerns.

For those waiting for the Fed to cut rates, it looks like it will take more time and data, said Kathy Jones, chief fixed income strategist at Schwab. Besides, the Fed could cut short-term rates and bond yields could move higher. The SIBO volatility index hovered near 40 late Thursday, signaling strong chances of more sharp moves in the S&P 500.

Sector-wise Thursday, crude oil's weakness helped send the energy sector to 6% losses, by far the worst performance of any S&P 500 sector. But investors also fled from communication services, consumer discretionary and infotech, the three leading sectors Wednesday, but all in the bottom rung yesterday as risk appetite waned.

Travel stocks also fell sharply, with Delta Airlines, Norwegian Cruise Line and Carnival down double digits late in the session. Apparel companies like Nike, Under Armour and Foot Locker got stomped, and semiconductors lost about half their Wednesday gains. Tesla, which enjoyed a meteoric rally Wednesday, was back in investors' doghouse Thursday, down about 8%.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 1,014.79 points or 2.5% to 39,593.66.

The S&P 500 index dropped 188.85 points or 3.46% to 5,268.05 and the Nasdaq Composite sank 737.66 points or 4.31% to 16,387.31. This has been the Schwab Market Update Podcast.

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