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Tariff Concerns Persist Ahead of JOLTS, Alphabet

2025/2/4
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Keith Lansford: 我是凯斯·兰斯福德,这是2月4日星期二的市场早间展望。周一,在关税紧张局势有所缓解后,市场出现大幅反弹,但波动性依然很高,贸易问题依然是焦点。投资者正在等待今天的职位空缺数据和Alphabet的财报。特朗普政府表示将把对墨西哥进口商品征收25%的关税推迟一个月,这似乎让投资者感到高兴,暗示关税可能是一种谈判工具。然而,截至周一晚些时候,对加拿大商品征收25%的关税和对中国商品征收10%的关税的威胁仍然存在,并计划于今天开始实施。关税可能会提高美国消费者的价格,并随着报复性关税生效而削弱美国产品的海外需求。受负面影响最大的美国公司包括汽车制造商、农业公司、运输公司、食品和饮料公司以及芯片制造商。加拿大已经誓言要进行报复。关税威胁和报复加剧了市场的不确定性,这通常对股票不利。投资者昨日青睐美元和国债等避险资产,尽管没有哪项投资是真正安全的。周一早些时候,标准普尔500指数中85%的股票下跌,其中包括许多通常不被认为特别容易受到关税影响的行业。尽管标准普尔500指数和纳斯达克综合指数在墨西哥关税推迟一个月消息公布后将损失减半,但盘中涨幅略有改善,但早盘抛售是广泛的,并引发了对投资者情绪的质疑。尽管关税的全部影响远未确定,但任何进一步基于坏消息的广泛抛售都可能表明投资者开始去风险和去杠杆,或许更有可能接受美国国债、现金、黄金和美元而不是股票。美元和国债收益率可能有助于在未来几天揭示真相。对墨西哥关税的快速推迟可能暂时安抚了投资者,但也凸显了这场贸易战中局势变化之快;波动性在周一加剧,反映出实际情况变得越来越不可预测。根据芝加哥期权交易所波动率指数期货市场的情况来看,投资者并没有预料到巨大的戏剧性变化;然而,基于标准普尔500指数的相对强弱指标(RSI)周一从最近的65左右的高点跌破50,投资者似乎对股票走势的热情降低了。超过70代表超买状态,低于30被认为是超卖状态,因此相对强弱指标(RSI)保持在中等水平,这意味着它可能向任何方向倾斜;美元持续走强可能会给美国跨国公司带来痛苦,因为强势美元会提高美国商品在海外的成本,并可能损害盈利增长。反作用是,美元升值降低了美国消费者进口商品的成本。尽管贸易剧烈波动,数据和收益仍在继续增长,投资者关注的是今天的12月份职位空缺和劳动力流动率调查(JOLTS);分析师预计职位空缺约为800万个,低于11月份令人惊讶的810万个。Alphabet公司定于今天下午发布财报,亚马逊公司将于周四发布财报。软件公司Palantir Technologies在周一晚些时候发布了财报,超出分析师的预期,其前景也令人印象深刻,股价在盘前交易中上涨;在Alphabet公司上次报告中,云增长同比增长超过预期,达到35%,这将受到密切关注。微软上周对云计算前景的模糊展望引发了人们对商业环境的担忧,在上周DeepSeek新闻发布后,人们也更加关注行业人工智能支出;分析师表示,如果人工智能成本降低,Alphabet公司可能会获得有利因素。1月份的ISM制造业PMI指数周一公布为50.9,远高于49.8的普遍预期,也是26个月来首次超过50的水平,表明经济扩张;标普全球美国制造业PMI指数也超过了50。上个月的制造业数据显示新订单和就业强劲,但一个问题是这种突然的增长能否持续;一些增长可能反映了企业为应对可能的关税而采取的最后一刻的活动。在关税恐慌和制造业数据公布后,3月份加息的可能性略微下降至13.5%;关税使美联储处于困境,因为关税会降低增长并造成失业,但也往往具有通货膨胀性;美联储可能会更倾向于等待局势明朗,看看关税政策将是什么以及将持续多久。尽管标准普尔500指数昨日跌破6000点,但11个板块中有6个板块上涨,其中以消费必需品、公用事业和医疗保健等防御性板块领涨;信息技术板块再次遭受打击,过去一个月下跌超过5%;由于关税担忧,非必需消费品和工业板块也表现挣扎。 Susan Collins: 除非关税导致持续高通胀,否则美联储将试图忽略关税导致的价格上涨;这意味着美联储认为关税造成的通货膨胀与2022年和2023年对抗的需求拉动型通货膨胀不同。

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Despite a temporary market rebound due to a one-month delay in tariffs on Mexican imports, concerns about tariffs on Canadian and Chinese goods persist, creating uncertainty for investors. The impact on various sectors and consumer prices is discussed.
  • Temporary delay of tariffs on Mexican imports caused a market rebound.
  • Tariffs on Canadian and Chinese goods still pose a threat.
  • Uncertainty remains high due to the unpredictable nature of the trade war.
  • Investors moved towards safe haven assets like the dollar and treasuries.
  • The impact of tariffs could significantly affect various sectors, including automakers, agricultural firms, and chip makers.

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Welcome to the Schwab Market Update podcast, where we prepare you for each trading day with a recap of recent news and a look at what's ahead. I'm Keith Lansford, and here is Schwab's early look at the markets for Tuesday, February 4th. After a major comeback Monday amid easing tariff tensions, investors await job openings data and Alphabet earnings today, with volatility still elevated and trade issues still on the front burner.

Yesterday's rebound after the Trump administration said it would delay 25% tariffs against Mexican imports by a month seemed to cheer investors, hinting that the tariffs could be a negotiating tool. However, as of late Monday, the threat of 25% tariffs on Canadian goods and 10% on Chinese goods remain in place, scheduled to begin today.

Tariffs could raise prices for U.S. consumers and sap demand for U.S. products overseas as retaliatory tariffs take effect. U.S. companies that would suffer the most negative impact include automakers, agricultural firms, transport companies, food and beverage firms, and chip makers. Canada has vowed to retaliate.

Tariff threats and retaliation raise market uncertainty, which is generally negative for stocks. Investors embraced safe havens like the dollar and treasuries yesterday, though no investment is truly quote-unquote safe. At one point early Monday, 85% of S&P stocks were down, including many in sectors not generally thought of as particularly sensitive to tariffs.

Breadth improved slightly during the day, especially after the S&P 500 index and Nasdaq Composite cut their losses in half on news of a one-month delay of tariffs against Mexico. Still, the early sell-off was broad-based and raised questions about investor sentiment.

Though the full fallout from tariffs is far from decided, any further instances of broad selling on bad news might suggest investors starting to de-risk and de-leverage, perhaps becoming more likely to embrace U.S. Treasuries, cash, gold, and the dollar rather than stocks. The dollar and Treasury yields could help tell the tale in coming days.

The quick delay of tariffs against Mexico may have called investors momentarily, but it also points up how quickly the map can change in this trade war. Volatility flared Monday, reflecting how facts on the ground have become less predictable. Uncertainty usually means a climbing SIBO volatility index or VIX, and it jumped nearly 20% early Monday to a two-week high above 20% before relaxing slightly.

That said, judging by the setup of the SIBO VIX futures complex, investors aren't building in massive amounts of drama. VIX for months ranging from February through June remain below 19 and doesn't reach 20 through October. Even so, investors seem less enthusiastic about the path of stocks based on the relative strength or RSI for the S&P 500 dropping under 50 Monday from recent peaks around 65.

Anything over 70 represents overbought conditions, and under 30 is considered oversold, so RSI remains at mid-range, implying it could tip either way. Continued greenback strength might add pain for U.S. multinational firms as a strong dollar raises the cost of U.S. goods overseas and can hurt earnings growth. The counter effect is that a higher dollar lowers the cost of imported goods for U.S. consumers.

Data and earnings roll on despite the trade drama, with investors focused on today's job openings and labor turnover survey or JOLTS for December. Analysts expect about 8 million job openings, down from November's surprisingly firm 8.1 million, according to Trading Economics. Alphabet is scheduled to report this afternoon, followed by Amazon on Thursday.

Software firm Palantir Technologies reported late Monday and beat analyst estimates. It also impressed with its outlook and shares gained in pre-market trading. Cloud growth will be closely watched at Alphabet after a better-than-expected 35% annual rise the last time it reported.

Microsoft's hazy cloud outlook from last week raised concerns about the business climate, and there's also heightened focus on industry AI spending after last week's DeepSeek news. Analysts have said Alphabet might get a tailwind if AI becomes cheaper.

January's ISM Manufacturing PMI came in Monday at 50.9, well above consensus of 49.8 and the first reading above the 50 level, which denotes expansion after 26 months below it. S&P Global U.S. Manufacturing PMI also topped 50.

New orders and employment were strong in the last month's manufacturing data, but one question is whether this sudden flurry can last. It's possible some of the uptick reflected last-minute activity as companies prepared for possible tariffs.

Chances of a March rate hike slipped just slightly to 13.5% after the tariff scare and manufacturing data. Tariffs put the Fed in a tough place because they can reduce growth and create joblessness, but also tend to be inflationary, according to many economists. The Fed might be more prone to wait things out and see where the dust settles until it's more clear what tariff policy will be and how long it will last.

Boston Fed President Susan Collins told CNBC Monday that unless tariffs cause higher, persistent inflation, the Fed would try to look through any rise in prices driven by tariffs, Bloomberg reported. This implies that the Fed sees inflation from tariffs as separate from the type of demand-driven inflation it fought against in 2022 and 2023.

Though the S&P 500 did fall below 6,000 yesterday, six of 11 sectors managed gains led by defensive areas like consumer staples, utilities, and healthcare. Infotech took another blow and is now down more than 5% over the last month. Consumer discretionary and industrials also struggled due to tariff concerns.

The S&P 500 index retreated 45.96 points Monday or 0.76% to 5,994.57. The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 122.75 points or 0.28% to 44,421.91. And the Nasdaq Composite lost 235.49 points or 1.2% to 19,391.96.

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