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With Tariffs in Place, Jobs Focus Returns

2025/4/4
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Colette O'Clare: 我分析了三月非农就业报告的预期数据,预计就业增长将放缓,但仍保持在稳健的水平。然而,关税政策对未来就业市场的影响仍存在不确定性。此外,美联储主席鲍威尔的讲话备受关注,投资者将密切关注其对贸易战及经济增长和利率路径的看法。目前市场预期美联储将在今年进行多次降息。 特朗普总统实施的关税政策导致华尔街股市大幅下跌,市场恐慌情绪加剧,衰退风险上升。标准普尔500指数和纳斯达克指数均出现大幅下跌,部分科技公司受影响尤为严重,这与他们复杂的全球供应链和此前为应对贸易战而进行的调整有关。 尽管如此,一些避险资产如日元和美国国债受到投资者追捧。能源板块受创严重,这与欧佩克增产的决定有关,而非关税政策。国债收益率下降,表明投资者更担忧经济衰退而非通胀。 下周即将开始的财报季,特别是大型银行的财报,将为我们提供更多关于经济对新贸易政策反应的信息。此外,我分析了最新的失业数据和ISM服务业PMI数据,这些数据都显示出经济增长放缓的迹象。 Lizanne Saunders: 我认为,鉴于关税政策对企业利润率的挤压,熊市是可能的,许多公司可能需要调整其2025年的收益预期。美国资产也可能面临来自寻求其他市场的投资者的压力。 在当前的市场环境下,投资者应该寻找那些拥有稳定利润率、更多国内市场敞口、较低波动性和股息收益稳定性的公司。同时,投资者也应该考虑在美国以外进行多元化投资,以降低风险。 周四市场波动性有所上升,但并未达到极端水平。如果波动性指数VIX超过30点,则可能预示着股市进一步走弱。 Kathy Jones: 我认为,投资者仍然将美国国债视为当前市场动荡中的可靠避风港。

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This chapter discusses the March nonfarm payrolls report, which is expected to show continued job growth despite recent tariffs. The main concern is how the job market will fare in the coming months as businesses adapt to the new trade policies.
  • March jobs growth expected at 130,000
  • Unemployment expected to remain at 4.1%
  • Concerns about the job market's future performance in light of tariffs

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Welcome to the Schwab Market Update podcast, where we prepare you for each trading day with a recap of recent news and a look at what's ahead. I'm Colette O'Clare, and here is Schwab's early look at the markets for Friday, April 4th.

The market quickly pivots from tariffs to jobs today with the March non-farm payrolls report at 8.30 a.m. ET. It's expected to show U.S. March jobs growth of 130,000, down from 151,000 in February, with unemployment staying at 4.1%.

While jobs growth has slowed from post-pandemic peaks, these figures would show continued solid gains, but the question is how the job market reacts in months ahead as companies grapple with the new tariff regime.

The Federal Reserve also pushes its way into the news cycle today, with remarks by Fed Chair Jerome Powell expected at 11.25 a.m. ET. He'll be addressing the economic outlook, and investors will likely listen closely for any new thoughts on how trade wars might affect the path of growth and rates.

The Fed has been hesitant to move rates amid so much policy uncertainty. While the new tariffs may represent the highest level and be negotiated down, the Fed arguably has a bit more clarity now. Futures trading at the CME Group builds in heavy odds of three to four rate cuts this year, starting by mid-year.

President Trump's tariffs plunged Wall Street back into correction mode, sending major indexes down 4 to 6 percent Thursday in the worst session since 2020. The sweeping tariffs, which include an across-the-board 10 percent tariff on imports and will top 50 percent for some countries, including China, put U.S. trade barriers at their highest level since President Howard Taft's administration and far surpassed what most analysts anticipated.

Volatility spiked and recession fears ramped up. Recession probabilities may now be above 50-50, said Schwab chief investment strategist Lizanne Saunders.

A bear market, which would mean the S&P 500 index or the SPX, falling 20 percent from its February 19th all-time peak, is also a distinct possibility, Saunders added, especially with many companies expected to adjust 2025 earnings guidance to account for the margin squeeze from tariffs. U.S. assets could also be pressured by investors looking to other markets.

The S&P 500 is down more than 10% since the final session before the inauguration and off 12.1% from the February 19th all-time closing high of 6,144. The SPX closed Thursday back at levels last seen in mid-August and settled near its session lows.

The Nasdaq Composite is down more than 17% from its December peak and nearing bear market territory. There wasn't much by the dip as stocks descended yesterday.

Consumer staples were the only U.S. sector to show much positive traction Thursday. Investors piled into perceived safe havens like the Japanese yen and U.S. treasuries, and investors still view U.S. treasuries as a reliable port amid the storm, said Kathy Jones, chief fixed income strategist at Schwab.

Somewhat surprisingly, energy turned out to be the hardest-hit sector, though it was dealing with news unrelated to tariffs as OPEC and its allies sped up its production hike to more than 400,000 barrels a day to begin in May. Crude oil fell nearly 7 percent to two-week lows below $67 a barrel. The long-term low below $64 was posted nearly two years ago, and a drop under that might signal worries of even more economic weakness.

Treasury yields cratered yesterday to their lowest levels of the year, with the 10-year Treasury note yield falling to just above 4%. It had been 4.8% at its 2025 peak. The drop in yield suggests investors, for now, sense more recession danger rather than inflation pressure from the new trade regime. A weaker dollar tells the same tale.

Tariffs are taxes on U.S. companies. They'll likely pass along some of the costs to U.S. consumers, who will then lose spending power. Consumer spending is 70 percent of the economy, and a substantial dip likely means slower growth and possibly recession.

Earnings season unofficially kicks off next week with Delta Airlines number one on the runway Wednesday. The airline industry had a tough quarter due to economic weakness and travelers beginning to boycott U.S. tourism. Many already cut their guidance. Big bank earnings are on deck next Friday and could provide insight into how the broader economy is reacting to the new trade policy.

In non-trade news, initial weekly jobless claims yesterday were tame at 219,000, but continuing claims jumped toward three-year highs above 1.9 million. U.S. Challenger job cuts data from March showed U.S. employers cutting 275,000 jobs, the highest since May 2020 and up from 172,000 in February.

ISM Services PMI for March released yesterday delivered a headline of 50.8, down from 53.5 in February, but still above the 50 level needed to indicate expansion. Even so, it was the lowest reading in nine months and was greeted as more evidence of economic slowing. The services sector is far bigger than manufacturing and has generally expanded in recent months, even as manufacturing mostly lingered in contraction below 50.

Stocks down the most on Thursday included names like Apple, Nike, Walmart, and Nvidia. Tech is under particular pressure given the intricacies of their global supply chains and the input-source diversions that many companies underwent following 2018's trade war, including to places like Vietnam, said Lizanne Saunders, chief investment strategist at Schwab. Tariffs on goods imported from Vietnam were set yesterday at 46%.

There's no real investment playbook in this unprecedented situation, but Saunders told Bloomberg yesterday that investors might want to look for companies with stable profit margins, more domestic exposure, lower volatility and stability in dividend yields. They should also consider diversification outside the United States.

Volatility spiked Thursday but stayed out of the hot zone, which arguably begins at 30 and above, near where the SIBO volatility index, or VIX, topped out in December and March. A move above 30 might suggest more equity weakness, but stability below that figure could mean some of the damage has already been done in the market and less volatility may lie ahead.

Even so, investors seem to hunker down Thursday in areas like fixed income and the Japanese yen. With the 10-year yield still around 4%, more money could potentially move back into cash, but dividend stocks generally become increasingly competitive with fixed income at levels below that.

Technical support levels for major indexes took a big hit Thursday. The S&P 500 index fell well below its March intraday low of 5,488 and finished just below the second support level at 5,400 at its lowest close since last August. Below that is a level near 5,130 to 5,140 that also goes back to last summer's selloff.

As of late Thursday, there is a 20% chance of rates being lowered at the May Federal Open Market Committee meeting, according to the CME FedWatch tool. That rises to 82% for June.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 1,679.39 points, or 3.98%, Thursday to 40,545.93. The SPX fell 274.45 points, or 4.84%, to 5,396.52. And the Nasdaq Composite dropped 1,050.44 points, or 5.97%, to 16,510.

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