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scuba, panic, empathy

2022/7/26
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作者通过亲身经历潜水时的恐慌发作,深刻理解了恐慌症患者的感受,并反思了自身对恐慌症患者的偏见。他将自身经历与帮助一位在潜水过程中恐慌的德国女子的经历相结合,阐述了两种类型的同理心:一种是对那些你认为自己永远不会成为的那种人的同理心,例如抑郁症患者、残疾人等;另一种是对那些你认为自己永远不会成为,但可以通过模仿而扮演的角色的同理心,例如救援者、领导者等。作者认为,许多看似负面的身份标签往往是身不由己的,不应该被轻易评判,因为你永远不知道未来会发生什么。即使是积极的标签,也可能并非完全出于个人选择,而是对特定情境的回应。通过模仿,人们可以更好地理解和帮助他人,缩小彼此之间的差距。 作者在讲述自身经历时,详细描述了恐慌发作时的生理和心理感受,以及在帮助他人时所采取的行动和思考过程。他强调了同理心的重要性,以及通过模仿和理解来克服偏见和促进人际关系的重要性。他认为,人们不应该轻易评判那些与自己不同的人,因为每个人都有可能面临意想不到的挑战和困境。

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Hi, I'm Derek Sivers, and this is Scuba Panic Empathy. I used to scoff at those people who had panic attacks. Oh, the cake is late. Oh no, I'm freaking out. I can't breathe. Ridiculous, hysterical, overreacting. I was learning scuba diving and went on my first practice dive.

While I was 15 meters underwater, I felt a sudden need to get out of there. My heart raced, alarms in my brain, my body filled with terror. I raced up to the surface and pulled off my mask. The instructor came up, so I told him, I need to go. I hate this. I'll just wait on the shore. He calmly looked at me for a few seconds and said, Here, wait, look around.

See that mountain? What a nice day. Everything is okay. You're safe. Let's just relax here together. It worked. After a while, I felt better and finished our dive. Later, I realized I had a panic attack. This messed with my self-identity. I thought only weak, dramatic, hysterical people did that. But now I had, and it was involuntary.

The next day, I went on my first real dive with a group of ten tourists, including a German couple that bragged about how many dives they had done. Underwater, I felt no fear, just joy. Deep down at 20 meters, I saw the German girl, and I gave her the hand signal for, "'Okay?' A common diver courtesy. She replied back with the hand signal for, "'Not okay! Something wrong!' and gave me a panicked look."

Her boyfriend was not around. I followed the training I had just learned and brought her slowly to the surface. She pulled off her mask and said in a panic, "I hate this! Too cold! No, too much! No, I need to go now!" I recognized this. This was exactly how I had felt the day before. I remembered how my instructor had calmed me down. So I imitated my instructor exactly. I said, "Here, wait. Look around.

See that mountain? What a nice day. Everything is okay. You're safe. Let's just relax here together. After a while, her boyfriend arrived, so I went back to my dive. Those two days taught me two kinds of empathy. You might categorize a type of person that's so unlike you, a type of person that you will never ever be.

depressed, disabled, fat, divorced, bankrupt, homeless, addict. But these categories are usually involuntary. Don't judge. Someday they might be you. You might also categorize another type of person that you think you will never be. Rescuer, leader, athlete, boss, millionaire,

Even these categories can be involuntary, just someone responding to a situation. But you can deliberately step into a role through imitation. We're not so different. Go to s-i-v-e dot r-s slash dive. ♪

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