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Wasn't my heart is pumping right? Because we have the king of pump, the king, the originator of pumping iron. Our guest today is seven time mr. Olympia a, the former governor of california, he has growth and estimated four billion dollars at the box office. You know him from some of your favorite movies, like commander credit or true lies can do a cup.
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I N I cannot tell you the moment we found out you are coming on the show just so much excitement. You were such a huge part of our childhood and what we aspire to be. So to have you on the show, it's like coming full circle for both of us. Thank you for coming on. It's truly another well.
thank you very much. And that I was so excited when I heard that was invited on the show because there is nothing that they love more than festival talking to great athletes and also great athletes that are branching out and uh, finding a another thing to do and finding the other talent yeah because it's always great when you're champion in one thing where in athletics, if it's boxing, if it's clarity, if it's in football, ten is that whatever IT is body building with lifting, whatever IT may be, but that always ends yes, right? And then no matter which, except maybe I don't even know what sport, maybe dancing you can do and laid on, borrow me dancing something.
But I mean, in most cases that ends. And so you have to think, what is the next move? And you have to create their vision early on, because you start moving in that direction.
And so you guys are out there now. You started like last years old, yes, this podcast and it's going through the roof. I mean, everyone talks about IT, it's fantastic. And two brothers.
I mean, how great is that? They have two brothers work together and really kind of play off each other. And you guys are doing IT so well.
I've watched some of them and um I mean, you're really talented and you speak well and you full of energy and you you ask interesting questions and you say funny things and I immediately when they ask to I don't even have to think about this because this guy had talented and you I know you have now retired, right? And so that means you can to continue on winning another super port. Well, for me, I am.
What else what you to do? It's going to win another super board. That is, as I think, one another one after that.
So there should be no stopping inside. But you know, you know and this is maybe off the record, but no one is. And the blazer out there, anyway, he's probably here doing some interviews for movie pots.
Oh yeah, so he definitely out because a lot of times you guys to the show where you are in another place and you are another place, right? And is a split screen thing which really works well yeah and but now you're together because you're in holly's wood. This is a good reason.
So i'm not stupid, right? There is a reason, why does guys that out here together in hollywood, I mean, now there's all kinds of interviews being scheduled. I know for movie parts for blowing here.
You get any part for nobody. You guys had lined up. Give you the way right now.
And I know the way this, how how do you pick the movie parts? Because the breath of action to a movie like twins with the antibes, how did you know always to pick the movie that was just going to kill IT? Like, what was that process?
Well, you know, to be very honestly, I was not able to pick IT all the time because I have had movies that advance through the roof like you know, twins or kindergarten cop and corn and and and and terminate those films. But there were other movies like curriculum in new york. I mean, they went in the toilet.
I went straight the toilet. So there was movies that they made like that. They made no money. And and that is so you cannot always win. There's no such thing.
And this is why, you know, I always talk about about the losses because you got to account losses because we learned the only from Victories, but we learned a lot from our losses. You know, when you doubted ly more, how do you get back up again and how do you get to the next? Have a big door kind of a movie, but I was very happy that overall, I have chosen some really good movies. And then I was able, like you said, you know, when you were pumping me up and you guys were this building between the iraq and .
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there's no because he was partially right, because iraqi is stronger now than I am. He has more muscles than I have right now. His movies that they are doing really well. So there's nothing. They're be taken away from the rock.
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my legs as you.
I'm very happy with the oward, you know, kind of immense ory of what i've created in show business. And I think this is the important thing to be able to go and to do kind of like a movie, like common the pepi an where you expose yourself in the bodies out there, and then you do a science fiction movie like you terminate us and then you number one in that, then you go to do something like a like twins in the number one and that in the parks office, and you almost three hundred million dollars.
So so this is really great, great Victories of them to go like Frances with netflix, to do fu pa, to go for the first time in the T. V. series.
And then that being number one. So there was the, so I celebrate a lot of great, great Victories, have to say, with some defeats. No two ways about that, if it's embodied, building ahead my Victories, uh, in weight lifting ahead my Victories. But I also had my defects in body body and way lifting, in power lifting in order things and in movies. So is so big and and in my personal life, so I am so you know you you go through that and you have your up and towns .
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never put yourself in a box though, that's what I always admired. You were never like nervous, are seem scared, like jump in to a new world, something that you weren't known for. And I think that is the the biggest thing that I took out of, like just you're overall professionalism in all sports, entertainment, politics, is that you always found a way to relate to people and .
show people that you can do IT. Yeah, you know, I was I love chAllenges and I think that you guys too, yes, I think that the hardest st chAllenges, the really is like really, really chAllenging. And so I love chAllenges. I love in some of these, I hope. Is this really risk? I am not to do twins because, you know, I know the people love to see an action movies, but I don't know if they will go for IT that you in a comedy yeah and of course I say, okay, so don't pay me I said, don't pay me, just make me be part owner of the .
film and I .
take the risk, just like you take the risk and sure, if I made more money in that movie like an anything, that's what I did. But I mean, IT IT worked one of the things talk about in my book be useful yes is um don't listen to the next say as I mean how many times if you say it's impossible you onna do that right? Heard this at home.
And so I remember when the rain for for governor, they said, I know they're gona eat your own life I mean, this is so dangerous to do that. I mean, you're gonna throw out your movie in korea and you're gone to go in there and they're gonna be little. You and the press is gonna all over, especially republican and running in in a state like california.
It's a liberal state and it's gonna horrible. I said, I said, hey, I see myself as the government of california. I know that I can do Better than the idiots are in sagging tal that I know for sure.
I said to myself, so i'm gonna go in champion. I'm gonna announced on the the night, not the official kind of announcements like they make with the american flag in the background was I did IT on the night show to throw everything over, right? Yeah, I went on there and then announced.
And from that point on, two months later, I was governed of the state of california. So me, so you cannot worry about the things you gotta a go all out now or never. I mean, so I always go all out and they tried different things like this book. I mean, I never saw itself as a motivation speaker, uh, someone that rides motivational books itself, help books in order of stuff.
But i've have been ask, as I didn't know, are you want to do this book because we have heard your speeches and I as if, yeah, I think that this could be number one, what I have to say, and the body came out, I made for six months, IT has been done a best sellers. And I think about that for six months. So everything is kind of, I go for number one.
That's what to do. No, like with the commercial. I think about the commercial, right? Number one, bang with number one, U.
S. A. The day had the survey. Number one, commercial.
So I love those things, even though this is not the business I am in to do commercials, but mean a show. Name of name. You remember, name is from way back.
So when I came to this country, I was so careless of him was, but because in body body building, I had to go into brick laying jobs. I made no money in body building, there was nothing. There were no sponsorship or anything.
And show name is was television, this great football player. And he was in television and then watching TV. And i'm seeing him with advertising and endorsement, penny hose.
And they said, are you fucking kidding? This fucking guy is the number one player that everyone watches in amErica is everyone is watching football and baseball. And i'm in is what that no one watches. And this is like a sub culture kind of a thing.
And you're that adding my homes, any homes, baby.
and adding painting? Guys, this guys, no, this guy is known. I look how handsome he looks, look at beautiful he looks, and he plays them, all the covers of the magazines all the artists are written about.
And then he does endorsement. And then way back then, he gets a million dollars for an endorsement way back then. And now the seven is s IT.
Just was amazing size, said myself, I got to go and do something to build the sport of party building, to build IT up. yeah. So I get some popular IT would ever get to be like football to get some popular. And that was was than my mission when I get out of party building competition, to go instead promoting body building competitions, to race the cash Prices and to get sponsorships involved. And we now have the number one body building competition, the armed classes in columns so high.
So I before we get on here, but we used to go. The university is an adi would go up to the honor classic one to see all of these amazing competitors, either body builders, a strong men I mean, all of the way lifting community goes to this thing is the biggest wait listing convention that i've ever seen.
And um we will go up there because all the supplement covers of their college, because you don't have a lot of money, you're just trying to get some supplement. En, so that kind of how we did, we every every year we'd make the trip, see some unbelievable people as the first time ever saw honored in person. And even from a distance, IT felt like I was meant my child here to be always with you.
So this is awesome to be here we do to think all new news. okay? It's one of our segments and you be in the one of the most iconic line delivers of all time. Do you mind is just look at that care if you don't mind and say new news in your own onal way. Is that alright?
No news. yeah. We had a feel that would be a we had a really don't turn off when I say no news.
Got good. It's all baby. Well, you certainly busy.
You've published in new york times number one best selling book called be useful seven tools for life be useful in your netflix dock series. You said your father used to .
say that when .
coming up for the name of the book is like this work be useful. Is that in the montreal of of Arnold in in your career reinventing yourself. Is that why you went with that title?
What is never really kind of like made that much sense when my when my father said IT, because he always, he always would be critical, you know, I would be working out and he says, why are you are working out? Why are lifting orders weight? Just we can look in the mirror and kind of for in love with yourself as I mean this, you can get strong but just being useful as if what you mean, he says you could job word for the neighbor.
This is this woman. She's eight years old. He cannot job with herself.
SHE cannot travel the core, and the core is being delivered for oven SHE cannot do IT herself. You can do IT. And then they get stronger at the same time.
And you're doing something that is useful. yeah. So be useful. So I will always be useful, be useful, used for. And so eventually what happened was that I was the thing that motivated me the most.
I heard this voice at five thirty in the morning, and I had to get up because I felt like why i'm lying around in in the bed. I mean, america, for instance, was not built by people lying in bed and sleeping in or something like that. No, this was made by people that worked hot, and they're very useful.
yes. So I have to be useful. I have to get out of bed. I have to go and work out, I have to go to school, I have to study, I have to get smart. I have to get Better in whatever IT is. So this is so IT really was helpful for me eventually do IT, because I heard this be used for all the time. And so I said to myself, when I wrote this motivational book, I said myself, i'm gna call IT be useful no.
what what are the seven tools in the book if you i'm retired and i'm kind of .
that's the point of read the book. I'm going to read the book.
but i'm Cliff notes first. You I think .
I think that the book basic was written because there are so many people the'd like to be successful. But not or not. I mean, when you think about that, the seventy eight percent of the people in amErica hate their jobs.
Yeah, I mean, that's terrible. yeah. That's said, you know and the reason why they hate their jobs is because they never really followed the first rule of the book, which is have have a clear vision.
Where do you want to go in your life? What do you want to do whether you really passionate about I mean, you guys found out early on, did you passionate about foobar? yeah.
So you went all out, and that was your vision. And now univision is to go to make this explode, the podcast, and then to get into movies. And the broadcasting for network is so whatever IT is, whatever direction you go, but you have new visions.
And that is the most important thing, because otherwise you would not know where to go if you don't have a clear vision of, we want to go you. And so I always compare an airplane. You can have the best airplane in the world, but if the pilot does not know where to go, eventually it's gonna crash.
He's not gonna end anywhere, right? And that's what happens a lot of times to people in their lives. They crash and then happy and they don't accomplish the goals. They don't know what the goals are in order of this.
So what i'm talking about here at great length, how do you create this vision and how do you have a vision? And how you have to turn off your iphone and the idea phones and your computer and ipad and everything, all the machines, turn them off and just start thinking, start thinking about what is IT that? Do you really want accomplish my life? What do you want to go? What makes you happy? And so a lot of people don't know, because I know, because we have to, what's institute.
And you see, and I ask students all the time, I said, what do you want to be? And I, if if things go well, here is and then there's too many as what do you want to be and they cannot come up with the clear answer. So a lot of people don't have a vision.
So that's why I say the most important thing is there a clear vision. The other thing the other rules that I talk about is where you ask off, there's too many people that think that you can do IT a easy way or there is a short cut, or there is a magic pill of some sort. No, you got to work your answer no matter what you do.
If you no media business and movie business and acting business, if you an athlete, you have to work your self. So I talk about the great length that how important that was for me to learn this very early on in life. When I was in austria, yeah and then when they came hit america, I was working out five hours a day with weights to win my world championships and body building.
But at the same time I went to college, at the same time I worked as a prepayment hours and hours every day. And at night I went to act in class. So did all of that.
I literally used entire twenty four hours and only sleeped six hours in the rest of you that worked my ass off. So so I talk about that. There is no shortcut that you have to work.
You ask of, he is another one. Don't listen to that. They say, is because, as we talked about IT early, IT is the worst thing I can do, because everyone always comes.
I remember when I was, like, fifteen years ordinary said, I want to be a world champion. E in party building. I want to be like rich Parker. Still reef, just guys in the screen that were the hire ous movies. I said, I want to look like them.
I want to win the titles like they did and I said, yeah sure or sure I mean, maybe you should go visit the shrink or something like was IT was always negative and I I just didn't pay much attention that I just a listen to my own kind of a mind and my own and look at my own vision. And I had a very clear vision of being on the stage in london. We are rich park and Steve eves won the mr.
Universe contest. I saw myself ell on that stage, and that's what I was shooting for. So every rap I did, I was getting one step closer to that vision. yes.
And this I was like, I didn't have to discipline because a lot of people think that you have the discipline, know if you have a clear vision, you don't need the discipline. You just have to go for that vision. And every rapid do we enjoyed because, you know, you're getting one step close.
So so I was always smiling in the gym, having a great time, because I knew why I was in the threading. I was lifting this wait and doing over bench present the chin steps in all of those kind of things because I knew what my vision was decembers in the movie business. I knew that when I was finished with body building, i'm going to get into the movie business.
I had a very clear a vision to be another rich pko not to clean the east with old Charles bronze. Know any of those guys and and there was no way did anyone could talk me out of IT. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, even though they said, you know, you have an accent, no wonder ver became a leading man with an accent. Um you have a difficult named to pronounce and you too big for the movies. I mean, you know woody island is the new star in the seventies not a big.
I like you. He is always no.
no, no. So again, I didn't listen to IT, and I the reason that I became successful is because I didn't listen to those guys. So this is the kind of rules that I go through in this book to really lay IT out for people and to show them that, you know, pick, pick goals, not small goals as that, because small goals is kind of like even you afraid of fAiling as they. Then you pick smokers and say, if you get rid of the fear of failure, that's when you're free, and that's when you can go all out and say, i'm gonna pick disco right up here and i'm going to go and shoe for the stars. That's what I always did.
I love, I love. Fuck the night, says, be useful.
be useful if you go and grab this bookman.
I'm already about IT H, I haven't read and forever, but I want to read this you talk to about work about five hours a day, which is a lot longer than i've ever worked out. You've also got a daily newsletter in podcast called Arnold pump club yes, that's pretty pretty dupe um the the positive corner of the internet uh tell us tell us a little bit about the .
pump club why you know the pump p cup is it's kind of like a village. It's a community. Yeah, it's about people kind of like help each other.
IT started out originally. It's my peach. Yeah, that's that's right.
Like what is like kind of the gym it's like it's like the pump k up is kind of the gym where I go, for instance, to gorge jm in a work out and you have like a bunch of guys around and everyone is helping you to count out the reps for you, and you helping them, you correct the exercise, they come up, what do you? And to say, hey, you can go further down in your squad and this, so everyone works together. Everyone pumps each other up.
And this is what this a newsline is all about and the pump club is all about. It's like first to be started out where I gave points to the people, where I gave them complement. I said you're doing really well.
But now everyone is charming in the whole village. Everyone that is a member is supporting uh, other people that are struggling. Yeah and so it's really been fantastic that kind of let us did you get many people say, oh my god, I was struggling my whole life with this weight, but now I have a great plan.
You have given me a great plan, and i've all the support of the members. Then then we have like you know, a million people reading this a this news letter. And so we have of them supporting them and pumping them.
And so IT has been really the positive corner of the internet. Because everything is so negative, people attack each other all the time. It's terrible, you know? The same thing actually, no more talking .
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And to conant all of these movies, do you realize that you were you're partly helped to raise our entire generation like literally yeah doing around my father's, the man that we both come to the we watch predit together on the couch he would be buffalo chicken wings with blue cheese slave and off, not looking like the dutch. But what is, I guess, yeah, what movie do people bring up the most from your career? Like which one did you like the most? Let me tell .
you that IT changes all the time. You can really wait because there are times so like for instance, where people were kind of go crazy with on the bus, bari an and everyone, is he coming the burberry? Well, we're again and what is up? And then, you know, people, things change then obviously IT terminator, I love germinated say the line, i'll be back and I would say i'll be back.
No, no, no, the movies says i'll be back. Were over that? no. And so then then two lies.
A lot of people who lies was the greatest thing because of chambly. Could our dynamics together. And then he was twins. And so IT has changed over the years.
And then he comes backing in, like, for instance, recently, a what people have been asking me and talking to me about predator, which is really interesting because that we have ve done that was nineteen. I shouted in one thousand nine hundred eighty six, came out in one thousand nine hundred and eighty seven. And uh, IT was you know IT was really a fantastic team of guys.
They were together chess ve into and the cold where exactly yeah that was really fantastic. And so we had a great time doing IT. But you know now over said and there's a recent of this movie, and I don't know why there is, and so a lot of people have been asking me about predator, so but I have legacy.
I've done a lot of movies that the people enjoy and that now they come back and netflix s in an older, different streaming services, which is really great. So there is a life of its own. And uh, I think that now I have kind of like the the older people.
The baby boomers are the fans of mine and also the Young people, again, because these movies are coming back in the streaming service. So really great to enjoy ool. I was there any .
movie that you passed on that you wish you would have taken?
There was a movie called drag, and which on on, yeah, yeah. So they came to me. We descript IT was on the eighty pages instead of hundred and twenty eighteen Normal script ts, a lot of hand the written script in IT.
And they kind of explained to me this is what we are going na ride here and says that the guys, why don't you just come back when it's finished? Yeah, as this is half baked, i'm not going to make me and I have three movies lined, Operated to do in the next year and a half. So I I am going to be busy anyway.
And so they then left, which was Cherry uka done simpson. They are left. And then the nigger cage got the job, got the part, and they went to him, and he was, he took IT and the way the script was.
And then they did find on the script and did a great job with IT. And the movie was fantastic. Now, even though I was not ended, but this caused a fantastic job.
Shang conn was great. The direction was great. The riding, everything was really a straight ten. So I mean, I was, I really enjoy the movie. But there was one movie, for instance, that they thought I wish I would have taken. But I mean, I just couldn't take IT because I was not yet written because they always say what's on the page is not on the stage yeah so you got to be very careful always.
And that was an advice to think for you guys in the future when you get off with movies, just make sure that this is written well, because you, when they say to you is as well, we can have great special effects, and you will not believe the kind of things because and we have this great director, and we have this and be gonna straight notice out. Let's see the first. Yeah, let me see the pages first to see the real de first in order stuff, because you want to be in something good, not right off the tap, something that is not good now.
So because later only you never know how it's gonna up. But so this is just a advice for me to you that always kind of look for word written scripts. That is the key thing, create and create directors.
And I think about my career wouldn't be what IT was and what IT has been 呃, if he won't been for john millions, who direct come and all exactly. But but like jim Cameron, I am thinking about kim Cameron. I mean, what the change is.
Director and determined, terminated to with him, true lies with him. Then he went on the titanic, and then the avatara, and after he literally some my favorite movies of all times. Yeah, I ve write man who directed, uh, twins, uh, oh, chai turnd who did predit. So this is really extraordinary. Directors, they made me shine because they were great.
Directors always shine and light. Ah, you're always shine and light on everybody. Is is is there is there a modern day? Are not like who are you a fan of right now in that world?
Uh, in the action show? Yeah, I think i'm a fan of iraq. I think he's fantastic. He's really good. I think there's a the richer yeah right I is a really fantastic speak the in .
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so very alone back in your guys but you in sly and all of the action stars what was crazy about that generation was those were not just the action stars. Those were the biggest stars yeah like they outshine all of the other actors in hollywood IT was the hay day of action movies and you and selector really went to to toe obviously be ond uh a filled alphy and rocket is a big move to fold out for you um but back in the day, you know what was the competition like uh like were there certain movies where you guys felt grew on back at forth like.
well, first. Well, let me just say that would made us be that big was that we created an era yeah I mean, I just think about IT did before us there were no action movies where the guys were really believable, physically speaking, that they could do this action. So we were the first ones that came on the scene.
But be rocky. He said that he looked very thread and he looked very good and he's skills in boxing was fantastic so that the end, of course, his acting was mind blowing in the movie. And that's why one orders awards. And then when I came out the end, the weekend, people just couldn't believe that you know that oh, men, you know, because they they always said we .
could never have done .
color without ch, what's? Ea, because there was no one around that had a body like that, and IT could act so. So I was kind of the perfect I for that time.
And there were no stunt guys around. They hit a body like that. So I had kind of two most of my stunts.
And myself. There was a few things that Terry lena did, who was the stunk dina? But he always did everything from far away.
And then, you know, this camera flash painted head on IT, so they painted him up like that. So he looked somewhat like me, right? But IT was fine of a way so that we so exact, uh, the stance by the man.
He was like reflux rating because I had to do a lot of the stuff. I was trapped on the horses. I fell off. I saw IT fight, a good country, so IT and of this kind of stuff. So but I mean, we created an era of of action movies where the guys like, you know, uh, shanghai from dumb and of those guys came in, they were ripped, they were muscular and and so then he became a competition is like a but not just the competition of who has the best body.
But IT was kind of like who is the lowest body fat, who sells the most tickets at the box office ah who uses the biggest knives in the movie? Who kills more people in a movie? Yeah, who kills the more people in the most creative way in a movie? And so the competition was so insane in every direction, who uses the biggest gun? So the sly used in rambo, A A huge machine gun that really could hold up, right? And so I said to the government, I did.
Commanders of guys, we have got to go and use a machine gun that is mounted on a helicopter or in a tank, not for human being. And so I was holding this, this gun I good for ahead, like a stand out. That is because he was so heavy, IT was so huge.
Changing the point in the nAiling, the nAiling the jumbling trees in order of the so IT was crazy. The competition was insane. Be the other competitiveness. The day when we look back, we laugh at IT because we're very good friends and we help each other all the time, and so we laughed. We actually have come to the conclusion that because of this competition, we were kind of like working extra hard because as you know, competition creates performance. If you have no comments.
working kind right now, you got to wait too fucking kind. Oh no.
We just ground IT out. And we were competing and competing. And h now is it's it's a, it's a friendly competition is always a competition. But I mean, now he's doing a thought king um you know I think my food bus series starting in in a month and he's starting to shoot, I think in a week or two and so IT is fun to see him successful. I'm successful and be to doing IT together kind of thing as we laugh about the good old days.
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close work is ahead to be at least offered and on the table, how close for you to being a villain. And rocky.
now, I was never offered. I was never offered the woman I first, so I wouldn't have taken IT. And I think the slide knew that.
But I mean, the woman to the head, let's not forget. I mean, there were Priceless. yeah. I mean, if you think about, they know cold weather, write me how good he was and he was unbearable, or or dolf lung g bean is good.
But if I think of a german.
no, no deal foundering. He was tall, he was sixteen years, and he was his fantastic the tea. yes.
How about mr. t. exactly? This was great, great baLance in the and opposite side. So I think that he did a good job picking this again.
But I may be, did a movie together, you know, we and also escape plan, escape plan? yes. So they change the title from tom to escape plan and slide. I did that together, which was really fun to to work with him in that film. And so so maybe we do anything else in the the future who know.
We usually ask all of our nfo guess what is you're welcome to the nfo moment. You've had so many career, so it's hard to ask which ones who is going to show what is your welcome, the highly ewood moment, what you're welcome to a body building moment and what you're welcome to amErica moment?
Well, let me just say that I am a broader over a lot of help we given. They say that because so many times people say, you know, i'm myself made man and .
then the perfect of .
the so, so, so I would never have been able to come amErica if he wouldn't have been for chill reader, yeah, who was the publish of the muscle magazine? And he had to be a distribution with bobbles and dumb les and of the stuff worldwide. And know he proved me to america.
He gave me the chance to bring me over here and to compete here in the mister universe contest, and then a state here. And he paid for my, he paid for my apartment on the beginning and give me some the spending money. And I endure these products in the audit kind of stuff.
So that was very, very helpful. In the movie world, that was the same thing that was like people that invited me in. I mean, there was a guy name of barber reversion babara frison directed five easy pieces and easy writer.
And there's a movies with generous, and he directed the movie that I was in, stay hungry, which shift bridges in its sali fields. Without him, I wouldn't have had a huge break in honeywood. I got the best acting w award in in the golden globes for that role.
And so that was, you know, again, IT was people that were helpful and that continued helping and tender the lender, who was one of the most famous producers who then got me to do command the papering and with a pressman. And so there was lot of people, they were very helpful, and they brought me in about them. Mean to me, coming to amErica was the key to my success, because everything that I ve accomplished in my life was because of coming to america.
AmErica is the land of opportunity, even though people criticize IT and politicized. And he doesn't matter if the democrat in charge, if the republicans in charge. AmErica is the greatest country in the world and has is the most generous country in the world. And IT has given me all the opportunities in the movie business and the body building and making millions of dollars and, you know, and my family and everything. So because of america.
what do you think IT is that makes amErica so unique as a country?
Like why is that? That amErica has a history and it's generosity. It's just a place where foreigner's welcomed.
And this is the key thing if you are willing to contribute no to america, is a lot of people that want to come to amErica to take advantage of america. And I am very vividly against that. You know this because everything is a two way street. And when I come america, and I see that i'm being welcomed and I received with open arms, then I want to make sure that they do everything I can to give back to america.
And this was, to me, always the thing, you know, which means not skipping taxes or running off to another country to have some offshore CoOperation or any of those things I believe in paying your taxes and go and enjoy this great nation that gives us orders. Ebdon ties and giving something back. So that's why always was interested in, you know, getting involved in creating after school programs. Yes, for kids all over the country. So we have one of the biggest after school program organizations, the after school, or we I got involved in special olympics.
And where is that on the run down? Go down.
And I have know that special olympics that became a the national coach of special olympics and international coach of special olympics to help people that disagree tage sometimes no mentally or physically and to help them uh and travel around the world to do that.
Then of course, we are being the chairman of the president's council on physical fittings and sports on the presidents pushes leadership uh, so I did dead for years and that was really fantastic to travel through all fifty states in the united states to uh start to to kind of motivate kids to exercise and have more physical education programs in the public school school and then of course, running for for governor. He was like, I literally gave up at that point. I was getting anywhere betwen twenty and thirty million dollars a movie, and I was getting two movies a year.
And I gave that up to run for governor and to be governor for seven years not to take the salary even did you know, day or three hundred and seventy eight thousand thousand, which was like petty cash, right? I'm not gonna IT. I'm not gonna take that.
I give give you to people in california that needed there is a lot of people need that money more than I do. But I mean, does the kind of things I gave up to give something back to amErica because they say themselves, amErica gave me everything. So now it's time, my time, to give something back of, right?
We're going to stop being fan boys over your acting career and sound over to a different kind of thing. Boy here, andy read always still travel. You lose your goods, you lose your game as a seven time mr. Olympian um and the most iconic weight lifting but body building individual all time.
What is the key to building up your body in your mind? Like I know that it's more complex but what a few things that our listeners could take away like and they wanted to become uh more happy with the physic get pumped up. What are the few keys that you give them?
The most important thing? And I was very fortunate that I started in the weight lifting club. So we were not allowed to do body building exercises until we have proven that we have done our training for weight lifting, for olympic lifting, so that the two press at that time.
Now they can do that more than IT was the the two ARM a clean and to clean and jure to ARM snatch. So those of the three disciplines that be to kind of practice, and then on top of that, I practice, also power lifting. The bench press that was like, actually four disciples was the bench press.
Then there was the the squat and the dead lift, and also the cheating curl. So cheating current swing, because ood swing, but you had to get IT up there. And so that was like, so this was the forth kind of disciplines, so we had to practice that also.
And then that was done. Then you could go into some chin ups, into some inland bench Prices, or some flies, some polar s and stuff like that for body bullying. There was the deal.
So I was lucky. In weight lifting, you do the very basic exercises is the dead lift. That's why I went all up to seven hundred and ten pound deadly. And then they go the bench and the bench.
So I did all the basic lift, bend over a roling in the the squads, the bench breath, the england breath and all of those things that the squad that they were very, very important to build the basics of the body come then when that is done, and you have deal to its and you have petrol muscles and you have a huge chest, and that and the back, now you go instead chilling away, because now it's about the perfection. Do you have enough? Upper lads, lower lads.
And the real deltos side, delors front deltos. Is there split between the petro muscle and the front, dell do IT? Is there split between .
the drapes in the death entire anonyme of the body?
No minutes. You have to know all of that. That is the most important thing because when because there's an exercise for each part of your body. So when you know, how do I go create a little bit more of that redial to IT? How do I create a little bit more of the seats that separates the lady was from the background muscle?
How do I create a little bit more of those in the castles, separates the dominance in the sides to the obliques in all those kind of things, when you know those exercises and know know those machines, that's what makes you then scoped the perfect body, or perfect this we ever can get. No, whenever got perfect. But that mean.
But so so that's what this is about is is knowing that studying IT and then also knowing the nutritional pod, because you know you got to realize that the body needs protein and needs couple high IT needs, fat IT needs. But what is the baLance? So that, that is also very important that you figure out not what is the rule out there.
So that's important to know the rule, but that's not the only thing that's important. You got to figure out also what is that, that is working for you, right? Because what works for you may not work for you.
Yeah, i'm saying so every people try to copy each other. That's all good. Of course, I copied my curl because someone else did the curl in this, but then had to figure out what kind of a curl do I need to do to get the peak. And a, what did I need to do for my cafe, for my outer cafs? So everyone is different, and everyone has to tell for training differently.
Jason, Jason does a lot of what is you're vegan? Jason's real vegan. I always was out on vegan.
I never thought I did a one week, couldn't do IT. I needed way more protein. Northern beans, have you ever gone vegan?
I have cut down my meeting. Take around seventy percent. And the one that talked me to, he was jim Cameron. He is vegan, one hundred percent vegan, and he has tremendous energy.
And so I think IT works because when you get older than you, doctors always would tell you, especially if you have a heart conditions, they will always tell you, as I look cut down on your need and take cut down on your need and take. So I did. I started, you know, just eating mostly vegetables in at night, having A A super some cucumber salad or something like that, rather than having chicken or having made or stake us.
But I still love mistake pretty. I still go out and if is often make my babeque steak. I still want to go to austria eat my venture needs. Are you kidding? Yeah, it's fantastic. And .
chicken, good .
chicken, very.
I'm in the process right now. We're tired. I've played my whole career, two ninety five.
I'm trying to get down to two fifty, two sixty. My goal is two pounds every week lose IT because I want to lose IT. But meantime, my muscle makes you. And i'm trying to monitor my, my, my protein, my carbs, my facts and make sure that hitting and at least one .
pound per the most important thing is that you slowly kind of decrease the body fat, yes, and increase the body muscles, right? So you just switch. He doesn't just have to do with the weight, yes, yes.
Of course you want to reduce weight because it's much healthier and much more atra and much faster. You can do more in order to some, you much more energetic, but you want to slowly decrease the fat and increase in muscle mass. This is the key thing.
And there would be the exercising. And with the machines and the weights and offices of you should be able to do that very easily. And I know that you have lifted some serious weights and .
you best squad is what is like seven .
hundred and a long time about my body would break. Then I but I mean, you guys said both of you lift a lot of weights and so it's IT should be easy to go.
And do you not have to lift heavy? Yeah, that's the key thing because remember, at a certain age, you started getting into this way and they have the choice unnecessary because you not competing, unnecessary to go and try to out to do the lifting in order that I rather see you doing in the twelve fifteen rips and exercise. And we're doing IT as strict as possible. And to do a many, many reps are many sets and to do the right way and to gain the most size, rather than to just torture itself and to have injuries. And noted that .
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in america, land of the opportunities. All right, now let's get to no dumb questions in a very special edition of no dumb questions because we argue, arguably have the smartest. And answering these no dumb questions with a bunch of dummy is mean chase.
Especially no dumb questions has brought you by lazy boy, my favorite, reclined, joined the movement to take a moment on the most comfortable furniture out there. Long live lazy. In a recent interview, you said you learned about the rules of american football through your kids since they watched and played growing up. Um what was your first impression of american foobar outside of you?
But I mean, I tried to watch IT because of course, my friends, even though they were body builders in the gym, in gold gym and in on sundays, I will be hanging out with them. Let's watch football. I was watching football, of course, I could not understand IT.
So imagine in soccer, you never stop. yeah. And in football, they stopped all the time and why we are here. Then when they started explaining with some of the, he was noticed, then I started making sense.
But when IT really made sense was when I had kids, and my sons were heavily in the football, they were playing football, was in elementary school and then was in high school and of itself, and loved that. And so we, of course, had to watch football. IT was the things that we did always together.
And then, and so I said, why to move? Why is this guy saying that this was not a loud? I mean, all he did was just held onto his gear and didn't let him. No, he can do that.
And other guy is in the hitting him in the head, you know they are crashing together with the homes and the guys passing out and that's OK doesn't so so anyway say but things like so they explained to me step by step and the kids, I tell you one thing, I I learned very quickly how much that your children love to educate the parents. Because we always say, don't do this, do this, do that. Now know that you're wrong with the math.
This is the way this, this spelling is wrong. You right this again. And always, we always to tell them what to do.
So now obviously go. But IT was not kind of like meant to be like that. But I said, it's paddy, what happened here? Now why? So didn't he explains IT, that is all that's why is IT.
So I realized how much he loved that, and then he had his barrie over there. Then he looked over his barriers. 你 能 看到 这, i have this guy and and father, I think I, you know, you've to understand guys, he's from australia OK all is eying around and stuff like that.
So so, but I mean, I learned the game, I learned the rules and then laid on around ten years ago, you know, fell in love. We'd had a with my girlfriend, who is a physical therapist who treats a lot of the football players and boxes and U, F, C, fighters and basketball place. And she's really ethnic about sports and about special about football.
So now i'm sitting with her and she's explaining if you have any questions. So IT IT IT never stops. So, so this is really what has happened in the in the last few.
you had to have been asked to play football at some point though.
No, i've have been asked because I I tell you why, because people have known my drive in my clear vision in in a in body building, you know, because i've been invited by track and field guys, Bruce, china, in order skies there were training for the olympics in the seventies year, know to come in the field with them and they throw the travel and to the shot put notice of, but mean, I ve never really been invited to play foot or anything like that. But I, like I said, I always loved that I was always mesmerized of how I can be so popular and how people can get into IT and drink and eat and this. And then IT becomes, it's really fantastic, because I learned, I learned that whole thing, watching my kids kind of digging IT and just to having their friends over, and how this was kind of the early stage and how they continue on and go the days.
and exactly how I started for us. Just sit and are watching with dad and join those games if you ever want to come see some good football and maybe more to work, come on over the case.
say, do have a team. You will come .
when you live here. Then you, then you ruled for teams from here from forty nine, whatever, whenever. But mean, I always say that if you watch the best, no matter what IT is, what support IT is.
If you watch the best, I mean, IT is absolute heaven and then is so inspirational. So i'm looking on the best in football. If you watch the best in football is college professional football, if whatever IT is or natica. So this is that is just always wonderful to watch. I love last segment here.
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think that he's been fantastic in his career. Me he he's really great. And we talked a lot about in the show business because this is a whole new era now.
And so we talk about that versus when I kind of cut into the game, he's a fun guy to talk to. I'm really happy that my daughter you know um has found him and all that he has found here, whatever you, they found the other, whatever. I mean it's so because they really fit really well together and they just wonderful together.
They in love with each other and the grandchildren. I love the grandkids. I mean, SHE brings them over on the weekends, on saturday. And then, you know, I have, of course, the animals each, not that you, right? So I I say, kids, you want to help me feed the animals.
I said, that's going fudge nei, which is my pig and and the pig is now I got IT at the pig when he was like sixteen pounds, not like a hundred thousand and one hundred. What happened? But I think someone body.
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So now that they are feeding china, they teach him how to put in this mouth and of those kind of things. Then they go into the stall with me and they they bring out the, you know, the manager donkey lu and whisky, the manage pony, and then they feed them and they bring up soa and feed them in order.
How did you get into owning a minister pony?
Well, it's it's head a game with me. The yeah, the pond is actually cats, but the donkey had gave me OK. And so so what happened was Cathy had this pony, and then overseas, when he started getting interested in boys, always said in the animals, while now SHE didn't pay any attention.
So I saw this pony downed the stall below where I live, in some public stall in the end of we'd other other and in manager horses and something and um so I said, well, i'm gna bring IT up to my house because it's stupid to have this uh manager pony down there doesn't get any attention. I want to have walk around the house, come into the house. And so, so, anyway, so that's what I did.
I had this pony, and that said, he walked around the house and they fit, and that was always fun. And then he is IT IT. SHE needs a companion. So then had to got me, the, you know, the the the the manager donkey and so now I have been a luu and whisky. So the whisk is the pony and the dunk is lulu.
And so they think, but the question really, so when you you should see that when they all come in the morning, I mean is like the donkey is in the, the ponies in the, the pig is in the begging for food. The three dogs are in the everyone is sitting down the floor and is waiting for the cookies because we are making this open al cookies that have no show gated. It's just like honey. And some some in the open mill is in india and a few things like .
so and so we feed as the .
animals and they just sit there and they do anything you ask them to do. Now did you get a cookie you ready with with food, as you know, with animals, with food, you can really kind of yeah make them do anything. So anyway, when cattle comes with with her kids and they play with the with the animals, like for hours, they just love IT.
They just love you. Can I pick up Cherry? So which is a little dog that I have.
And so then then I have pick up Cherry. And then in lis speaks up Cherry. And then I want to hold Cherry OK.
I sit in the donkey. yeah. If got, of course, you can see is how having .
a great time, professional political opinion, obviously of california, we've been talking about a Jason yeah how far away you think he should governor pencil ana, like you I mean, he's no, he's got the, he's got IT all right .
yeah but he has to be in his heart. So, so, so no, he maybe has the write combination. He is the the most important thing.
And number one is name recognition. So of course he has that. So then, but the second most important thing is you have to be passionate.
You have to really say, I see myself as the governor like I did. I saw myself as the government, and I was absolutely convinced that can do a Better job. Then the politicians did, because they said that myself.
Is that because they always say, they say, oh my god, SHE wasn't, doesn't anything but politics. They say, but bit as if we have warehouses of politicians, of experts up in segmental. And look at this, we have a thirty four billion dollar deficit.
I see you should be ashamed of your self. That's what you know. I said I know Better. I said I I would not spend money I don't have yes, it's a simply as that you know so there was certain things like that, that i've just felt me very strongly and that people elected me because of that. And so IT depends you know, if you are into uh, the public service thing or not. If you are, of course you can win because you opposing figure you speak really well, you very clear and all are you have to do in our stand is just convinced to the people I am the men .
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don't get me going up now to go do this. I.
Got a to make your first use, a governor. You go for governor and then president. You born here.
you boy here are to teenagers. President, I mean, is that not?
I'm going to the White house out, still feel that thing and change IT.
We have, we would have to play. We would have those super bow on the south lawn of the White. That I can get on beer right now.
Kennedy used when he was president, he used to have sports events right in front of in the south lawn of the White house. The fund baseball games. And ten is games and football games. They are all playing their doing some sport. They're why when I did, when I became the chairman of the president's cousin fitness, I then went and the talked president bush into having the great american workout on the south long of the White house. And we head every beginning of the way.
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man as authority to all the cool shit in the world. What are your thoughts on the new cyber truck? Is a cool, is a weird, is a too futuristic? You know.
know what of you? absolutely. One, I don't have one know.
But I can tell you one thing, when he comes to trucks, I like the old kind of stuff Better. I think IT looks cool. I am still love my hammers. I mean the I mean, it's like I tell you, I have a hammer.
I had a hammer that was electric, which was really fantastic at five hundred and fifty horsepower, and then be auctioned off the after school programs and be fetched there were five hundred thousand dollars. Then have a, so I have very different homers, and they've really found to drive. And this is much what my kind of morality.
just a yb truck.
I get old school truck to.
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so much more power. IT just takes immediately because there's no delay. Yes, there's no delay. It's crazy.
But I also have an old chevy sila a from thousand nine hundred eighty.
Yeah yeah, I know. yeah. Actually that's when they knew how to make cars exactly. You do you know that you guys have come from cleaning, obviously, but they know.
So in cleveland, I never knew this is where the original city was, where they started building cars. I think I went the car, a museum, a auto museum that you have the so fantastic to goes through there. Yeah.
our dad, I worked in the steel meals. I think our family history was the only .
reason that city started was to build cars and eventually to deal somehow. What A, I never knew that there was such a history there. Solution, the beauty, beautiful city.
Solution, why ve an amazing art? Last question, if you were to reboot one of your movies and cast each of us in a role, what movie, who do you think we play?
I would definitely do common to bebear an, imagine how real disease. I mean, you didn't have to change anything. All you have to do is go and the on a no, you can .
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vegan with a partial week OK. Yeah, partial week. So the thing is that they had also had short hair, short here.
And those things they don't have to do, the the long hair thing, yeah. But I mean, there will be fantastic. All you have to do is just learn how to was big, right? And maybe you guys have .
got off every that is the key thing .
is to really get good in horse big writing OK. Because, you know, you do the sort. Fighting on the horse really cannot pay much attention to the horse. Yeah the horse goes around the circuit doesn't think, but you have to pay sort, not get wacked. So I mean so the thing so I think if you think sort fighting lessons, I took three years.
So fighting lessons in three years, who are back riding lessons and with the all kinds of weapons, reading martial arts and order stuff and IT really was helpful to be dead prepared when I did the movie. But that's the key thing. So if you do that, I mean, imagine you guys a and the big battles in order is that riding the into the village, just wiping out everyone crucian enemies, see, and everything. Before you heard a lemond of their women. Yes, mab.
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