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Europe's Biggest Economy is in Trouble

2025/2/19
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Albert Schultz: 我在巴伐利亚州Memmingen的一家工厂工作。过去20年,得益于全球化,德国经济蓬勃发展,我们的产品畅销全球,价格低廉,能源供应充足,美国也保障了我们的军事安全。然而,好景不再,全球化正在逆转,中国和美国都希望自给自足,廉价能源供应也消失了。我们公司自2019年以来就没有增长,利润持续下降,现在已经没有利润了。德国工业整体也面临着严重的就业问题,自疫情结束和乌克兰战争开始以来,已经损失了数十万个工作岗位。 Friedrich Merz: 德国经济已经连续三年衰退,这是前所未有的。30万个工作岗位的流失就是去工业化的表现。如果我当选总理,将削减官僚主义和企业监管,反对禁止内燃机以保护德国汽车制造商。 Jana Puglierin: 德国需要摆脱旧的经济模式,例如依赖出口盈余。在全球化不再像我们预期的那样运作,贸易自由受到更多限制,贸易日益政治化的世界中,这种模式已经过时了。 Greg Dixon: 德国经济停滞不前,投资不足,官僚主义过多,乌克兰战争也加剧了这一问题。德国经济的现状是即将到来的德国大选中一个核心议题。

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You're listening to State of the World from NPR. We're the day's most vital international stories up close where they're happening. It's Wednesday, February 19th. I'm Greg Dixon. Germany has Europe's biggest economy, and it's not doing well. Too little investment, too much bureaucracy, and a war on European soil has led to stagnation for an economy that thrived during the boom years of globalization.

And the state of the German economy has been an issue that is front and center in their upcoming election. NPR's Berlin correspondent Rob Schmitz tells us more.

Robotic arms spin copper wiring faster than the eye can track it on a factory floor in the Bavarian city of Memmingen. Each year, this factory produces tens of millions of solenoids, electromagnets used in automotive and industrial machinery. But that's down 20% from just five years ago. Owner Albert Schultz remembers those days fondly. Germany has had a fantastic party now for 20 years.

Globalization, great for us. Everybody wanted our products. They were cheap thanks to the Euro. Energy supplies from Russia were cheap. And you Americans secured our military

Security, yes. Thanks for that. But these economic advantages that Germany enjoyed for years are on their way out. Globalization is in retreat. Chinese want to produce for themselves. Americans want to produce for themselves. The euro is still there, OK? We have to take care of our own military now, and the cheap energy supplies from Russia are gone as well. So this party has ended. Schultz says among European economies, Germany has profited the most from globalization in the past two decades. And

And that is why it's suffering the most from globalization's decline. Schultz says it's hurt his company, too. We have been in crisis mode for five or six years now. There's been no growth since 2019. And profits have gone constantly down, and currently there are no profits. Schultz is not alone. The whole of German industry has shed hundreds of thousands of jobs since the end of the pandemic and the start of Russia's war in Ukraine.

a topic that was center stage in the most recent debate between current Chancellor Olaf Scholz and his likely successor Friedrich Merz of the center-right Christian Democratic Union Party. Germany's been in a recession for three years in a row. That is unprecedented, exclaimed Merz in the debate. You claim deindustrialization is not happening, Mr. Chancellor, said Merz to Scholz.

But how is the loss of 300,000 jobs anything but deindustrialization? Merz's answer, should he become chancellor, is to cut bureaucracy and corporate regulation. He's also against calls for a ban on the combustion engine to protect German automakers. I mean, we were kind of world champions in producing cars, but the cars that we produce are also the cars of the past and not the cars for the future. Jana Puglierin heads the Berlin office for the European Council on Foreign Relations.

She says German voters are looking for a new economic formula. So you need to come up with something that is not based on also the old German economic models. I think the export surplus, maybe that is a thing of the past in a world where kind of globalization doesn't work the way we thought it would, where you see more barriers when it comes to free trade and where you see trade also being increasingly politicized.

With new U.S. tariffs and economists predicting a 1% increase in unemployment by the end of this year, and with no sign the recession will lift, Puglierin says whoever emerges to run the next German government will need to implement some new economic ideas or run the risk of being voted out of office once again. Rob Schmitz, NPR News, Memmingen, Bavaria. That's the state of the world from NPR. Thanks for listening.

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