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Reckoning with the Past in Colombia

2025/5/27
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Alejandro Ramel
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Diego Sevilla
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Juanita Gobertus
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Mario
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Yolanda Rocha
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Mario:作为前中校,我承认在2000年代初,我所在的军队基地面临着来自上级要求增加杀敌人数的巨大压力。为了避免职业生涯受阻,我们不得不虚报战果,导致士兵们滥杀无辜,将农民、临时工和失业青少年杀害后谎报为战斗死亡。我承认,我指挥下的部队对63起此类杀戮事件负责,这完全失控了,这些是不应该发生的暴行。现在,我希望通过帮助挖掘受害者遗骸来赎罪,希望这种事情永远不要再发生,因为它造成的痛苦是巨大的。 Juanita Gobertus:在哥伦比亚武装冲突期间,最残暴的罪行之一就是士兵处决平民,这一行为令人发指。 Alejandro Ramel:根据2016年和平协议,设立了战争罪行法庭。前士兵可以通过讲述非法处决的真相、向死者亲属道歉以及提供他们可能被埋葬的地方的信息来避免入狱。通过参与挖掘工作,他们可以更清楚地看到自己造成的损害,这在哥伦比亚是第一次,罪犯在墓地里寻找受害者。 Diego Sevilla:找到并确认死者身份非常困难,许多人只是被倾倒在匆忙挖掘的乱葬坑中。例如,我们本以为埋葬着六个人的墓地,实际上发现了12个头骨,这意味着至少有12个人埋在那里。 Yolanda Rocha:我的15岁弟弟被军队处决,然后打扮成游击队员,他可能就埋在这个墓地里。我和一些士兵交谈过,他们对杀死这么多无辜者,比如我的弟弟,表示深深的遗憾,这非常困难,你想要真相,但就像揭开旧伤疤。

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This chapter sets the stage by discussing the decades-long guerrilla war in Colombia, highlighting the staggering number of civilian deaths and introducing the Truth Commission's findings. It then transitions to the efforts of former soldiers to atone for their past atrocities.
  • Decades-long guerrilla war in Colombia
  • Hundreds of thousands of deaths, 80% civilians
  • Truth Commission's findings
  • Former soldiers making amends

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Colombians suffered through a decades-long guerilla war in which hundreds of thousands died. According to the country's truth commission), approximately 80% of those killed were civilians. Now some former army soldiers accused of atrocities during the war are trying to make amends. They are helping to locate and exhume the remains of innocent civilians executed by the Colombian military. We go to one of the sites.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices)NPR Privacy Policy)