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Frontline special - correspondent Maxim Tucker

2025/2/16
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Maxim Tucker: 作为一名战地记者,我亲身感受到乌克兰人民对于特朗普总统与普京总统直接会谈的深切担忧。他们普遍认为,这种会谈无异于将普京重新迎回国际舞台,打破了他因战争而遭受的孤立。许多人对此表示担忧,因为他们觉得特朗普过于天真,误以为普京真的有意愿进行和平谈判。然而,普京提出的条件实际上是要求乌克兰完全投降,这是乌克兰人民绝对无法接受的。虽然乌克兰人民渴望和平,结束这场无休止的冲突,但他们并不认为仅仅通过特朗普与普京的会面就能实现这一目标。他们认为,普京不会出于善意而做出让步,特朗普需要对他施加真正的压力。然而,除了额外的制裁之外,乌克兰尚未看到特朗普承诺提供足够的军事支持,以使乌克兰能够在谈判中占据优势地位。更令人担忧的是,特朗普在谈判前就已经排除了某些关键议题,这无疑是自曝底牌,削弱了乌克兰的谈判筹码。乌克兰总统泽连斯基多次强调,任何关于乌克兰未来的讨论都必须有乌克兰的参与,他不希望普京直接与特朗普对话。我们至今仍不清楚这两位领导人究竟谈了些什么,但乌克兰绝不会同意普京提出的完全投降的要求。历史已经多次证明,普京是不可信任的,俄罗斯也常常违背停火协议。只要普京还怀有将乌克兰变成俄罗斯附庸国的野心,乌克兰人民就无法接受,因为那意味着被占领,人民将被逮捕、折磨甚至处决。对他们来说,这关乎生死存亡,他们绝不会轻易接受普京告诉特朗普的任何事情。

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In this extended Frontline conversation, The Times’ correspondent Maxim Tucker in Kyiv delves into Ukraine’s concerns over Trump’s direct talks with Putin, which many fear sideline their nation. He also sheds light on the intensifying battlefield challenges, Ukraine’s dependence on Western military aid, and the pressing need for Europe to bolster its defence commitments against the growing Russian threat.

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