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Dr. Ben Carson: The Left’s Cringing Worship of Kamala Harris

2024/7/25
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本·卡森认为卡马拉·哈里斯是一个追求权力和控制的政客,他相信政府,像大多数马克思主义者一样。他认为媒体试图将卡马拉·哈里斯塑造成神一般的形象,但美国人民足够聪明,能够看穿这一点,并且不会为了次等的东西而牺牲国家现有的优势。他批评媒体像一群鸟一样,同时转向并一致行动,这反映了他们共享的世界观和某种程度的合作。他认为媒体放弃了传播无偏见信息的角色,转而推行社会主义和马克思主义议程,这最终损害了自身的利益。他认为媒体对特朗普的负面报道助长了仇恨情绪,并可能对暴力事件产生影响。他认为应该更多地关注政策问题,而不是相互攻击,这样才能取得真正的进展,并发现比想象中更多的共识。他认为卡马拉·哈里斯当选总统会导致美国向左翼方向发展,她的政策将加剧现有问题。他认为卡马拉·哈里斯能够成为总统候选人,反映了美国民主制度中存在的问题,即少数人的决定可能凌驾于多数人的意愿之上。他认为特朗普的竞选应该关注政策,而不是个人恩怨。他认为应该对比两种不同的政治制度:一种赋予人民权力,另一种将权力交给政府。他认为特朗普是一个真正关心他人的人,而不是那些只在镜头前表演的政客。他参加总统竞选是因为受到了很大的压力,并且相信上帝选择了特朗普来拯救美国。他预见特朗普会获胜是因为他认同特朗普的政策,认为这些政策是扭转美国局势所必需的。他认为美国高等教育体系已经成为灌输反美和反人类意识形态的工厂。他认为希尔斯代尔学院坚持其最初的使命,拒绝政府资助,并提供免费的在线课程。在特朗普政府工作初期,由于政治原因,他难以组建团队,但这增强了他的决心。在特朗普政府期间,取消了大量的法规,改善了住房和城市发展部的运作效率。他致力于拯救美国,并会遵循上帝的指引来选择最佳方式。他认为尽管媒体会尽力塑造卡马拉·哈里斯的形象,但她的政策和过往记录可能会限制她在非裔美国人中的支持率。他认为卡马拉·哈里斯的背景并不足以让她成为非裔美国人的明显领导者。他认为卡马拉·哈里斯当选总统将证明美国的民主是虚假的。他认为允许数百万非法移民进入美国会影响选举结果。他认为非法移民会影响人口普查结果,进而影响代表人数和立法。他认为美国距离被非法移民彻底改变只有一到两次选举的时间。他认为美国正受到共产主义的渗透,其目标是通过从内部瓦解来征服美国。他认为美国人民应该团结起来,克服分歧,追求共同利益。他认为美国早期社会的团结是基于对共同利益的理解。他认为美国正受到内部破坏,其目标是建立一个世界政府。他认为拜登-哈里斯政府对基督教持敌对态度,这反映了马克思主义的反宗教本质。他认为反对在学校教授十诫的观点站不住脚,因为十诫是文明的基本原则。他认为如今,社会已经将新的宗教信仰置于公共领域,例如变性主义和环境主义。他认为人们应该为自己的信仰挺身而出,因为只有勇敢才能拥有自由。他认为自己被媒体妖魔化是因为他履行对上帝的职责,而不是为了获得世人的赞扬。他认为主流媒体试图妖魔化那些与他们意见不符的人,但他们的影响力可能不如他们自己想象的那么大。他个人和家庭的成功归功于对上帝的信仰。他认为1967年底特律骚乱后,底特律老虎队赢得世界大赛,这表明关注共同点可以促进团结。他认为底特律的衰落是由于腐败、缺乏多样化和犯罪活动等多种因素造成的。他认为他的母亲是一位非常聪明和有智慧的人,她从未让自己成为受害者,也从不为自己的失败找借口。他认为他的母亲通过阅读书籍来学习成功人士的经验,并鼓励他努力学习。他认为他的母亲从不接受任何借口,这促使他和他的兄弟努力学习,避免自怨自艾。他非常支持传统家庭结构,认为在传统家庭中长大的孩子各方面都做得更好。他认为美国的出生率下降,人们结婚较晚,这反映了社会文化问题。他认为人们应该超越眼前的享乐,为未来着想,思考人生的意义。他认为年轻人应该专注于找到自己的优势,并以此为基础选择职业。他克服了在医学院的早期困境,方法是专注于阅读,而不是听无聊的讲座。他认为人们应该在自己的影响范围内发挥积极作用。他认为维持婚姻幸福的关键在于记住最初的吸引力,并一起享受生活。

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Dr. Ben Carson discusses the media's efforts to make Kamala Harris likable and whether the American people will see through it.
  • Kamala Harris is a politician interested in power and control.
  • The media will use everything to transform her into a god-like figure.
  • The American people are smarter than given credit for and won't sacrifice their country for something inferior.

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We are honest brokers here to tell you what we think you need to know and do IT honest check out all of our content at ker croson doc com. Here's the episode. What do you think you come on, Harris.

I think he is a politician. yeah. And she's interested in the accumulation of power and control.

Do you think he believes in anything?

I think SHE believes in government like most marxist.

Yes.

I think he is a marxist.

Do you think that he can win?

Absolutely, we can win. This is, this is gonna a great test of the power of the media to take someone who formally was univerSally dislike and transform them into a god like figure. And they will use everything that they have to try to do that.

The question is, are the american people smart enough to see through IT? And I actually think the american people are smarter than anybody gives some credit for. And I don't think that they are gonna be willing to sacrifice what we have in this country, which is what everybody else wants, even though they try to integrate our country.

Say where systemically racist were unfair to people. If we were all that bad, we are all these people trying to get in here. And why aren't people trying to get out of here? So we know that we have something that's very good. And I think the american people realize that they're not willing to give that up and trade that for something inferred.

We're you surprised um it's interesting that you said the media are the key for common areas. Were you surprised how quickly the media pivoted from basically forcing job of his job to adoring and worshipping come on, health?

Now that didn't surprise me because I aven't watch in the media for a number of the years and I see how they, they're like a flock of birds. Have ever noticed that a large flag of a birds, and they all turned at the same time. And the algo, you say how in the world they do? They, they almost have this cohesive communication, and they work together.

I, I missed one of the media that about a week ago, I said, how can you say that about us? Then I start talking about how that you use the same language with a minute of the time that something comes up is just a coincident, that they use the same language and the same phrases. They had to admit that there probably was some degree of CoOperative. What going on there? Do you think that there's .

coordination or is a conspiracy of shared instinct throughout? They all have the same world view.

Ah both I think both of those things are going on, but there's no question that they have lost their original intent. The the media, the press is the only business is protected by the constitution.

And there was a reason for that is because they were supose to disseminate unbiased information to the people so that the people could determine what their will was because the country was post be run on the will the people now you know the europeans thought we were crazy. They said you can't have a nation that's run on the world. The people you have have a monarch, you have to have a ruling body um but we have demonstrated for a very long time that we can run on the will of the people.

But that is being distorted significantly because the press has instead of deciding to disseminate unbias information, they have decided to put their thumb on the scale and to push a certain agenda, which, when you think about IT, makes little sense because the agenda that they're pushing is more of a socialist, marxist and agenda. Well, what do socialist and mark is do when they get in power? They control the media.

It's almost the first thing that they do. yes. So they're digging around grave.

How responsible do you think media coverage for trump kitting shot?

But there's no question that they poison the atmosphere by saying, you know, he's like hit lern and he's going to destroy democracy and is sort of sad and carnet. You know, when you have people who perhaps not fully capable of controlling themselves, they can easily be influenced by that kind of activity. And it's just wrong now I was quickly hate them then.

Is done on on all sides in the political arena, in our spending time demonizing other people. Because somehow they think and that helps and IT does help for some people. Would you be amazing if we can actually discuss the issues? yes. Um what are the policies that actually impact people's lives if we could spend nearly as much time on that as we do talking about each other, decorating each other, I think we could make some real progress. And I think we might actually find that there's more agreement than you think there is. I say eighty percent of issues your most radical laugh wing and right wing people would probably agree on, but we take that ten to twenty percent and we magnify and we make IT the biggest issue to the point that people hate each other.

What do you think um would happen if come on here is is got elected president?

I think we would continue to move in a very leftest direction. I mean, he was the most radical left wing member of the senate. SHE was even to the left berny standards.

A SHE was cosponsor of the Green new energy. Do um you know he wants medicated for everybody? Mandatory, no private insurance as the D A.

SHE was the one who basically didn't want to punish people who were guilty of horrendous crimes and repeat offenders. And he wanted open borders and all the things that we see happening. You can put those on steroids. If SHE becomes the president, and I hope people will go back and look at her record, don't just listen to pleasant words that will be ending spurs with ridiculous laughter, but go back and actually look at what SHE, what he did and what he has said. And I think people will remember why I got no traction at all when SHE was running for .

president。 I'm really struck by that, struck by how little popular support she's ever had ever so now according to samples, she's the she's sitting by the president, but she's the front runner in this race. Um how how did that happen in a country that's supposed to be run by its people that represented democracy?

Well, I mean, you talk about a threat to democracy when the votes of fourteen million people are just tossed into the waste basket and a bunch of backroom politicians make decision because .

of the primary .

votes right then we end up with somebody ah who on their own merits would never have been in that position um that's a real problem and there are consequences for doing things like that you know the reason that our country accelerated from a bunch right technology ment to the panic, the words because we had a process and IT worked well and IT reflected the well.

The people when you throw that out, you can't anticipate that things will continued to go smoothly. They want and you know we've just thrown a big king in the whole thing. And hopefully the american people will correct IT.

You know, I think our founders were very, very smart people, and they study every single governmental system that had ever existed in the history of the world. And they were a cactus. They extracted the good things, and they excluded the bad things.

But one of the things that they noticed when they studied all of these government is that all governments move in the same direction to be, regardless how they start, regardless how lovely their ideals are. They grow, they inform, ate and they dominate. And they wanted to give us a government that wouldn't do that, would that would leave the people free and in charge.

And that's why they work so hard. And as you as you know, IT was very rockets, and there a lot of different opinions about how to do that. And in the less a convention and tillier constitutional convention, the whole thing was about to dissolve.

Everybody gather separate ways and elder states when management, Franklin, eighty one years, stop, gentlemen, let's get on my knees. And this has got for wisdom. And they prayed and they got up and they resolve their differences and gave us the constitution, which I believe is a god and inspired red document.

But if we neglect, if we don't add here to IT, then we will suffer the consequences. And that's what the battle is right now, the battle that's going on in this election. It's not about democrats and republicans. It's about people who want a country that is up for and by the people, and people who want a government that is up for and by the government. That's what this is about.

So if you were in charge of don trump's campaign, is that what you'd run on?

I would run on that and I would run on policies. I would not run on personality. You know, that's a distraction.

It's very tempting with common Harris.

Uh, IT is tempting. But you know much more tempting to me is try to make sure that, uh, we show the contrast between those two systems because they are very different. You know, one of them will create a situation where the workers control their own lives, control their own budgets. And one of them is a situation where you turn everything over to the government, including your harder and wages, yes, and they decide what to do with them.

Do you know come on hers?

No, i've never met her.

You do know down trump very well.

very well.

When did you meet and when did you decide you like them?

The first time we met was at marylou, and this was maybe about ten years ago, was before either, but has gone to the political arena. And we were just enjoy each others company. And someone says, rod, do IT just came in.

He said that don't care. This is been person. I knew what kind of person he was at that point. And you know my my whole family was with me in my mother.

And you know IT was a easter program and he just make sure that we were comfortable and that we were take care of, especially want to make sure my mother was comfortable. Uh, and there are all kinds, celebrities and an important people walking around. And he was just trying to make sure that we were comfortable.

And that's a kind of person he is. I noticed you know, that the workers, the people who serve the meals, the people who part a card, he knows those people, yeah, he knows their names. He knows their families.

The same thing at trump tower when I went there, and he seems to be a generally caring person. IT IT didn't take long before, you know, he knew my family, knew their names. He's just that kind of person as opposed to the very superficial politicians who are always playing to the cameras. And I couldn't care less about you want to get out .

the camera range.

You've seen that too. I've seen that many times, absolutely.

But then you ran against each other in the republican primaries and IT didn't seem to to recent relationship.

no. Well, we discovered pretty early on in the process that we were very compatible. And you know, I was not a person who really particularly want to be president.

You know, I I ran because there was so much insistence that I run after I get the president of a key o to the presidential press records. And I had over five hundred thousand petitions in my office. So people, every place I went, what signs run and run, and I really didn't want to do IT.

But there was just so much pressure. I just said to the lord, if you really want me to do this, you got to give me all the stuff. A person who run for president has a real index with all the important names, a lot of money and organization.

And I I don't have any those things, nor do I attend them to develop them. And next I knew they were all there. An artwork, animation was raising more money in a month in the iranian IT was incredible.

But during the campaign, you know, we talked, and I told him that god shows him that he was gonna wear. You know, there were a whole bunch of us running. I said, you're gonna win because god is going to use you to help, say, our country. And he did hold.

You foreseen that because .

I I knew the kind of polis that he expose and that those were the things that we're needed to turn our country around. There were the same things that I was thinking about. The difference was he wanted to do IT and I didn't. So that's why I endorse them so quickly. When I drop that.

what did he say when he told him you believe gott chosen him to save the country? What was his response?

I don't remember specific words, but he was kind of taking a bag that I would say that and he reminds me that very frequently and I think he is really thinking about since the assassination tempt, recognizing that he's there for a specific reason. And you know, I had a hard time when I dropped out, uh, convincing my followers to go with him.

I got a lot of calls, particularly for me, evAngelical leaders, you know, and I just said, no, don't be sweet by other noise. Look at the policies that this man is pulling forth because we have to save our country and think about all the people who proceded us in the sacrifices they make. We can't throw IT all away.

And we've got to be able to overlook some of the things that the media is going to try to focus you on. Goes, aren't the important things when IT comes to a leader. And I explained to them that, you know, this was a man who made his way in the real state market, and man had one of the toughness real state markets anywhere in the world.

I said, you're not gonna be successful in that market unless you're very tough. And that means you may have some rough ages, and we just have to recognize that, be able to move behind that and see that this is a man whose policies do you agree with? Those policies are doing.

And several of the leaders then came and started thinking in a different way. And we had a big evAngelical, uh, rally, you know, at first I was gonna like fifty. He ended up being two thousand.

And at that time I think he realized that. But this is an incredible lack of people. We need what you working with. So much .

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So then you went to work .

the administration.

yes.

what was that like? I had a very hard time in the beginning, obviously, because I didn't have A A deputy secretary for eight months. S, and I didn't have any assistant secretary for five months because they were playing politics, didn't want to give me the people hope that maybe I would go away.

But of course, that just makes you more determined this time. yes. And once we got the right people in place, IT was wonderful. Um you know we were very much aligned with the idea of getting with the regulations when I was running for president. Now I talk about how that was the major cause of slugged h economy.

We had such so many regulations, we ve got rid of over two thousand regulations that had regulations on some regulations, which made IT much easier to get things done. And of course, we had a situation. You always heard the stories about the male feet since the fiscal problems going on IT.

You probably knows, a year and a half into the trump administration, you never heard those stories anymore because we were able, with a much cajoling, an armed twisting, to get one of the former senior partners that only than Young to come on and really to to take on a bit. The whole had organization, which was difficult, he said in the beginning, he said, he look at the box. He said the earth Young would never had taken you guys as a client. no. But fearing .

criminal .

exposure, exactly. But IT was fixed and probably is now the best run, uh, agency. And western D. C, I hope to have destroyed all by now. But IT made IT much easier to get things done and was easy to work with president trump because he realized what we were doing. I understood, you know, the business of a real estate of housing and was a tremendous partner and getting IT down.

Would you go back into a second trump .

administration? Let me put IT this way. I am fully dedicated to helping to save our country. And you know, there are variety of ways that that can be done. And I will be following the guide from the good norton terms of which is the best way to do that.

So trump was getting more support from african americans in any republican since nicks, and I think maybe even more than nick does. Come on, Harris, change that.

There is no question that there will be some people who will vote for her just because of the demographics actually represent but i'm not sure it's gonna at as greatest. I think you know, when he was running for president, SHE didn't get a large amount of black support. And I know the media is going to do everything to make her seem like mart lutha king in a different body, but I think people maybe are not onna be as easy to manipulate that.

And I think a trump will continue to attract a lot of people in the black community because his policies recognize that a rising tide lives all boats. And you know, I don't think black people are particularly interested in having an advantage of everybody else. They just want a level playing fill, something that works for everybody. And I think that's one of the reasons that the trump is attracting so much attention.

Come on, Harris wouldn't be an obvious kind of a leader of african americans, and she's no group in canada. How did you make an immigrant father and indian immigrant mother doesn't? I mean that it's not obvious why he would be the choice of african americans, I guess.

No, it's the perceptions. yeah. And of course, a lot of bit will be driven by the media who will try to make her seem like, you know, she's a second coming of Chris. But I just don't think that that's gonna work in this particular case, not to mention the fact the in the past that this SHE has not been an inspirational individual and in her speeches have certainly not been the kind that would have people fired up saying, yes, we will. We will go to the end of the earth for this woman so um I hope he has some really good speech .

right this yeah I mean it's interesting if you can get come on Harris selected .

president um you .

know you kind of prove that the democracy .

y's fake I think well you know Nancy policy once said I can take this glass of water and I can put A D behind IT and get IT elected um there is no question there is a machine and there is a mechanism for doing things so you saw how effective IT was a in pensylvania for federal man at a time when, before he recovered from his joke, he was a basket case, could talk. And yet he was still able to be elected over someone who was very articular and very logical doctor are so if no one should underestimate the impact of that machine and what you can do, I don't .

think we're allowed to talk about voter prad on youtube, which tells you that it's real. Um but are you concerned that letting in tens of millions of people illegally um well have an effect on the outcome .

of the selection, of course, that the the purpose of IT. And then i've talked to people who told me, you know, live in baltimore, go into the a voting station and just vote. They they have to show any I D then have to anything.

Remember one person who worked with me said, I went in every time. He said, you want see my idea. And I said, now we don't need to see your idea. So think about that and multiply that by hundreds of thousands or millions of people.

IT can have a profound effect on the election, but also think about the fact that when people come in here illegally, they get legally counted in the census, which then is used to help determine how many representatives they have. So IT has an impact that way also. So IT definitely has an impact. That's just a matter of how great that impact will be. And as time goes on and you get more representatives lean left, then you get legislation pass that becomes very friendly to people who've entered this country illegally and um you can profoundly change IT to a point what will never a move in a different direction.

How far away from that way now do .

you think I think we're one or two elections away from that. And that's why it's so finally important that we have people who can explain this in a way that people who are not legal or political scholars understand what's going on and are not met so easily manipulated. We d to recognized that we're being manipulated.

And this goes back along why there have always been people who have not been happy with the united states and with the way that we do things. And you can go all way back to one thousand sixty three and look at the congressional generated tenth eighteen sixty three congresswomen, her long of florida, read into the record the forty five goals of communism in amErica and how they planned to fundamental change our society. I was derived from a book called the naked communist by W K.

Concern, who was A C I, A agent and had done a lot of study on communities and minutes effect. And you look at those forty five goals and was things like gaining control of the public school system and a teacher unions, uh, so that you can induction, ate kids, get any control, the news media and hollywood, so that you can manipulate the opinions of people denigrating the role of the family, integrating the role of the church, getting into the churches and gospel to the social gospel, making sexual perversion Normal, natural and healthy. And just write down the line all the things and the things that are happening in our society right now.

And we, the american people, are the pounds who are being manipulated. And it's one of the reasons that cruz chaff was so confident when he talked to ice and hour and said that due grandchildren's s children will live under our system. We will all have to fight a war because we think we want to call war.

But they had a much Better plan on how to actually change this. And we're falling for IT and we the american people have got to wake up before it's too late. And we've got to understand that part of the the goal to overcome us is to divide us on the basis of race, age, income, gender, political affiliation, ation religion yeah because a house divided against itself cannot stand jesus, said IT.

Abrahamson can reiterate IT. And it's absolutely true. And you look, and you see what's happening to our society.

You know, we are neighbors and friends and coal workers and colleagues. We are not enemies. And look at the first letter via those hands.

We are not animates W A N E wain. We've allowed hatred and division of wax for a long time. Now is time to let IT win and come together once again. It's so OK to disagree about things that doesn't make someone your enemy just because they have a different yards, sign or a different opinion.

IT doesn't change the fact that that your neighbor, and you think about the early days, and in our country, when you had communities, sometimes of fifty, one hundred families, they came from different areas of the world. Many cases, they could barely talk each other because they spoke different languages and they understood a concept, call the common good. That's language that you see.

And much of the writings of our founders, the common good, what's good for all of us, not what's good for the polish section or the german section or the african section, but what's good for everybody. And that was one of things that made a difference. And he was harvest time, and mister Johnson broke his leg.

Everyone is harder. This they don't say, are you democratically pokin, uh, what you religion? No, I said you're my neighbor and you need help. That was one of the real strength of our nation, and we're allowing that to be destroyed. We're being manipulated.

And one of the reasons I believe that that happening is because we are the major obstacle to one world government and one world domination. But we cannot be overcome military. So you have to overcome us by destroying us from with them.

One of the reasons that people talked about the common good and believe that IT was important is because they were Christians, and therefore they believed in the moral equality of mankind because every person's is created by god. Um there that doesn't seem to be a common view in the way that I was even twenty years ago. And at the same time, the U.

S. Government seems openly hostile to Christianity, particularly the by narrow administration replacing eater with trans visibility day at that, putting people in prison for praying in abortion clinics and set at that. Do you notice this? This hostility toward.

without question, recognize that that's part of the overall plan of marxism m, marxism m and communism is very anti religion because they want you'd be dependent on government, they don't want you to be dependent on god, and they want you to believe that they have the ultimate say and everything. So naturally they're going to be, uh, anti religion and anti god. And it's sad to say.

I mean, when you look at television a the way that they mark Christians and Christian, and you saw all of the protests that occur red recently when the governor of the way said, we're gonna have the tent experiments in the schools and the governor of oklahoma and the legislation. So we're gone to teach bible and attend commandments. Oh no, no, you can do that.

That is horrible. Separation of church and state. You know, the constitution says nothing about separation of church and state, by the way, that's been distorted the tremendously. But I like the essays. People, exactly.

Why don't you want to take commitments to be taught what is wrong with dana hill? What's wrong with that? And that still doesn't not committed dodoes annot lie. Not only I know your parents what's wrong with those things, and of course, they never have a good answer for what's wrong with them, because there is nothing that's wrong with, and, you know, these are basic principles of civilization. And you can go to the deepest dark is jago a bna.

And if you find a thigh, what does he do? He waits until nighttime when nobody can see him, and he goes, and still, why did he do that? Because he knows wrong. There is such a thing as right and wrong. And there's nothing wrong with us teaching that to our children.

I don't think you've got a rid of religion in the public square. They've just changed the religion and .

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Was IT strange for you to go your, well, actually, like trump, you are very famous before you enter politics. And also like trump, a to a greater extent, ally than trump. You were loved by the media and by our institutions. Was IT strange to go from being a hero to evelin basically overnight?

Uh, IT wasn't strange IT was IT was expected, uh, I recognize that that would like to occur, but then I had to ask myself, what do you here for? And why has god used this? when? Why is he giving you such amazing accomplishment and a platform? And obviously, IT was not to look for IT the approval and aggression of mankind.

IT was a fulfill your duty to get and bring praise and honor and glory to his name. So I never really bothered me, particularly went a lot of the mainstream. So he's a horribly person and .

a horrible person.

Never mind the fact that he saved thousands of lives and came up with all kinds of new ways to do wonderful things ah he's a horrible person because whatever they believe is not what he believes uh and the good thing is that I don't encounter a lot of people who feel that way.

You know, when I got to the airport, you know, when I came in here yesterday and I went to the airport in a line of people waiting to take pitches with me in, to shake my hand and to thank me. And that's what I find, you know, just about a replace, I go. So the the mainstream media, you know, they do their best to demonize anybody who doesn't agree with them. But I don't think there is effective. They think they are.

I think that's exactly right. How have you been so successful? Have you been able to be so successful in your personal life?

Again, IT goes back to my relationship with god and and my wife and I. We start every day reading from the bible and praying, and we end every day reading from the bible and praying. And, you know, god is an especial part of our lives, and we taught that to our children.

How long have you done that with your wife?

I sense we've been marry, which is fourteen years.

Where did you meet her?

Uh, we made a ill back in the days before. I was quite as radical that we were both from the trait and we don't know each other and each IT. But we went to yell.

And people who knew both of us always saying, you too should get together. You too would just be magic cut together. And finally, we did IT together.

That was interesting because the university was trying to get some more diversity and, uh, so they would pay your way home for thanksgiving if you recruit for them. And they destroyed public school system and uh so the two of us agreed to go back and recent um and you know join that recruiting period. We discovered we we kind like each other.

We're actually driving back to new haven from an arba and we gonna drive all night to get back in time the next day. And we both fell asleep on every state, eighty oh, go on ninety miles an hour, awakened by the vibration of the cars that was going off the road. And I grab the will and turn in the car.

Just started spending. Instead of flipping over and going down the ravine and just started spending, and IT stopped pointing in the right direction just in time for me to pull off as an eighteen, willa came through, of course, we were quite awake at that point, and we just no empire. And we think about for saving our lives and that's tonight we started going together and we said that lord .

said our lives for a reason amazing .

ah and that that was on the twenty eight of november nineteen and seven, eight, two and we celebrate the twenty eight to eight months we call our month adversary, really for over fifty years.

You've done .

that over fifty years, yes.

amazing. And you had three sons and you have eight grandchildren, correct? And you're close to all of them. So how did you do that?

God, once again, was always at the center of what we did. And we would have a family worship. My mother lived with us to while the kids were growing up, which was a tremendous blessing. And we would all choose two versus from the bible, using from the book of proverbs, and read them and interpret them.

And so the boys became very familiar with with the bible and its interpretation and talking about that, and we, of course, want to church every week, and continued to make that an very important part of our lives. In fact, one of my, one of my boys is married to his wife as a minister. Really, yes.

what was your mother like?

My mother was perhaps the wisest person i've ever met. You know, SHE was from a huge role. Family and tennessee.

Dire poverty shifted from home. The home never had a place to really call home. Got less than a third grade education in order to escape dire poverty.

SHE got married age thirteen. And SHE is, my father moved to detroit. He was a part time minister and a factory worker. SHE subsequently, some years later, discovered he was also a big, honest and the family and that course, that resort in a divorce. And you raised us by yourself.

How old are you in your parents?

I was eight years old, and I was devastating to me. I just prayed every night that the lord will help. My parents will get back together. But that never happened. Later on, I realized why, because, you know, my father was in to gambling, and both drugs, women, women are OK.

But john y one that that probably would .

not have been a good influence on me. So, uh, that actually turned out well. But my mother had to work very hard to keep a roof over her head.

And he worked as a domestic, but he was also spy. And SHE said, I cleaned these beautiful homes and these beautiful neighborhoods. I will not spy on them, I see. But how come they so successful? And SHE concluded that they were so successful because they didn't watch about T, B, N, A read a lot.

Of books .

and he came home home on me, my brother and we were not happy campus and uh in today where we would access social services. But um we had we had to read the books and you know SHE wanted me to read up from slavery. Yes, I put to and the whole ideal self sufficiency.

And uh as I started reading books about people of great accomplishment, surgeons and explores and address and entrepreneurs, and I began to realize that the person who had the most do with with you and your success with you IT wasn't somebody else IT wasn't. Some circumstances stopped listening to all the negative people who are saying, you can do this, can do that society against. I just draw all that stuff in the garbage.

And I got to the point where, if I had five minutes, I was reading a book, and in the space of a year, in the help, I went from the bottom of the class to the top of the class. And that IT had a profound effect on everything I did. But the other thing about my mother is as difficult of life as he had.

SHE never allowed herself to be a victim, and SHE never made excuses. And I was a good thing. The problem was, he never accepted excuses from us there.

So if you became self pitting or blame on us, what the .

thing of mth was a caught yourself to blame, you're the camden abuses and, you know, goes through several different version, is the whole thing by heart. And we didn't want to hear that point. So we start making excuses.

How did SHE get .

that way? I don't know. He is rather unique. SHE was ahead of her time, and you know, he was illiterate when SHE was making us read books and submit to her ridden books reports what SHE can read.

But we can know that he would put little Marks and things on checks. And I fact, he was reading on within. Now SHE could read, but SHE did eventually teach herself to read. Got A G, E, D, went to college, and in one hundred and ninety four, got a honorary doctor degree. And so SHE was down to .

carson, too. Amazing how how long did you live with you and your wife?

And for close to twenty years, IT was wonderful having her influence on the boys as they grew up, because they got the same kind of treat my, my brother and I got.

whatever happened. Your father, did you ever see him?

The last time I saw was at my wedding when I got marry, and I didn't have any any heart feelings to them. I was at that time understanding why he left picture, and that IT was probably a good thing rather than a bad thing. But of course, A, I am very pro family, very pro traditional family, nuclear family.

You know, that's why I wrote the book, you know, the parlous fight, overcoming our cultural war against the american family. Because if you look at the think task, the liberal think tanks and the conservative thing takes and all the steady groups, they all agree that children raised than a traditional nuclear family do much Better on all prime than those who are not. And yet we find themselves not really pushing the traditional nuclear family.

He turned on the television series, you know, within five minutes you get introduced to a non traditional family, and not only as acceptable, but as the preferred thing. And there is a real war on traditional families. There's a real war in terms of children and the formation of families. The average birth per woman now is down to one point six. You need two point, one just to maintained a population um and then we have people getting very, very late, if at all, and ah that of course the presses the birthrate as well.

So we have a real cultural issue that's going on that is to be that when we need to encouraging a marriage and family and family formation and birth of children and not to come to a the other influence is one of the popular things now is think double income, no kids. And because you get to lab ish, all of IT upon yourselves, you now have to wear IT about anybody else. But what about when you're eighty or eighty five years old and you don't have another generation who's concerned about you? People need to begin to think beyond their immediate gratification.

And I also raise the question, like, what's the is the point of life to go on vacation?

What is the .

point of life.

you know? And I wonder about that for people who don't have a belief and got a belief in a herself, a belief in the goodness of people, what is their point? And I guess that only point is that we have as much fun as I can because then i'll be gone and there will be the end. I would I would be very depressed if that was the .

yeah doesn't doesn't seem that fun no .

no so .

if you were giving council to like SHE body done with your own boys, all three were married and have children. But if you are giving advice to a twenty five year old Young man, what would you be?

Well, I would say, what do you what what do you go at? Because first thing you you need to do, as I hope you're working, and if you're not working, you need to find out what career you should be pursuing. Everybody's good at something, but so often and people do things based on what other people's success is, are not on what their gives and talents are.

yes. And for a since when I started medical school, I did very poorly on the first set of comprehensive exams. So poorly, in fact, that my consultation drop automedon school, he said, you're not cut out for medicine and you're just gonna MIT yourself and everybody else.

We're going to help you get in to another area. I was devastated. I the only want to be a doctor since I was eight years.

So I finally get the medical school. The person's post to help me says, drop out. And, you know, I immediately thought wisdom from god. And I started thinking, what kind of courses have you always done well and and what kind of courses have you struggle then? And I realize I did well in courses where I did a lot of reading.

I struggle in courses where I listen to a lot of boring lectures because I didn't get anything on the boring life is like, get zero. And I six hours a day. So I made an executive decision that skipped the boring lecture and spend that time reading.

And the rest of medical score was a snap after that in years later, when I was back at my medical school as the commencement speaker, I was looking for that counsellor because I was gonna me where I put out to be a counsellor. Because some people are just negative, negative, negative. And they can always figure out why you can't do something, but they can't figure out how you can do something.

And we really need to be positive influences and our fears of influence. And that's what I would tell about twenty five. You first find out what you good at and find out how you learn, learn how you learn and throw yourself and to a career because when you're Young, that's when you're energetic, that's when you're likely to accomplish that.

You look at nobel prize winners and physics and mathematics and things like that. They usually don't get the prize until there in the fifty, sixty years or seventies. But for work they did when they are in twenty. So you know, when you're Young and vigors, that's the time to really throw yourself until you work.

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So what I mean maybe more than maybe more impressive than having three successful sons so that's pretty impressive is um being with the same woman happily for over fifty years, which you have pulled off. So what specific advice would you give to married men for keeping your marriage intact and happy?

I would say, remember what attracted you in the first place? And work on that, but make sure you have fun together, you know, spend quality time together. You know, I enjoy to relax playing call.

playing pool.

playing call. When we got married, my wife did not know the play pool, but SHE became a very good, poor player because he says this a way I can have quality time with you.

Do you play at home?

Yes, absolutely. We have pull tables everywhere.

really. Why, paul.

it's just relax me.

Did you play as a kid?

I learned when I was a teenager how to play and you know just the angles and triggering out which connected energy oil stuff has always been enjoyable to me.

Are you good?

Um yes.

A surgeons precision brought to the pool .

table exactly. And just, you know, doing things that you that you enjoy together.

So that means you are in poor hols. Detroit in the sixties?

No, no, we had a little table IT wasn't a sleep back on table IT IT wasn't particularly straight, but IT was something that you could learn the principles on.

Why did pull tables have slate in them part magn?

Because if if you have a wood foundation, IT can work. yes. And you you need a table to be very smooth and very level. So that's why they do.

So you still play pool with your wife.

absolutely. Who wins? I went most of the time, but if I make a mistake, you know, he can clean the table.

amazing. Good, by the way, were you detroit in the summer sixty seven for the riots?

Yes, yeah. To july twenty thirty, nineteen sixty seven I was there takes rumbling down the streets. I was pretty awful.

But you know what's interesting ah about that situation is the city was absolutely torn about apart. There was a lot of racial hatred. And I was like a war zone.

Exactly one year later, the detroit tigers were doing extremely well. They went on to win the world series. So the first time in thirty seven years, the city was one.

Everybody was brought together because they were so excited about the tigers. And the moral of the story is, look at the things that bring you together. Yes, emphasize those things, not the things that tell you apart.

What do you think happened? So the detroit of I mean three sixty seven, detroit was a you know a functioning affluent city.

Will they try at one point was the most affluent city in the country? Yeah I mean, they had everything going for them, but um you know a lot of corruption started A. Unfortunately causing a real problem plus dette was a one horse town yeah and that's never good.

You need to really diversify. So combination of those things uh LED to a pretty big decline in the criminal activity became a real problem that went from the the motor city to the murder city. And that was very problem.

So when you came back on vacation from yell college, did you notice a difference?

Oh yes, absolutely. And I remember how difficult that was to get a summer time um because at that time, there was another issue that was going on japan and the japanese car industry, toyota and don and all these things were having a huge impact a on the automotive industry throughout the world. And I had a negative impact on the choice so that along with the other issues that we just talked about, uh, really took its toll on the .

trait back.

Occasions but not very often. I don't have any family out there.

What's the igher hood group .

and like now um when I grew up in two different neighbor od the first neigh's od one I was born into in southwest trade IT was a lot of G. I. Homes, and they were, I thought they were pretty nice arms.

I and to me they were like paradise. There were small, like seven hundred square feet, but they had like a little yard. In many cases there was a little garage and people work hard and they were proud of their homes.

They try to keep them up after the divorce, we couldn't live there anymore. End up, in fact, we are homeless for a little while. And we ended up where .

you lived when you are homeless.

with different people stayed in their homes. But one of my mother's sisters are in boston, and her husband took us, and he was a typical ten, met large multi family dwellings, boded up windows and door size and gains rats and roses, murders. Both of my older cousins, who we adored, were killed.

I mean, that was the kind of place that IT was but IT. But at least IT was a roof over our heads for a couple of years until we were able to get back to the choice, still in a multi family setting with planning of wildlife. But never of us he was independent at that point, and ago was always to get back to that first neighbourhood. And then, you know, after a couple of years, my mother work very hard and we were able to get back to that neighborhood.

Have you have you seen in the last .

twenty years? Yes, I actually went back to IT with president hi.

IT .

looks largely the same. Some of their neighbours were still there, who were there when I was growing up. I was very nice to see them.

But now he has the volunteer, obviously, of a few decades. But people still try to take care their property. And you know, IT IT helps me to realize how blessed been.

Just in terms of being able to navigate around the world, own properties, to do all kinds of things that I never would have thought was possible. You know, people say the american dream is that is not dead by any stretch, the imagination. But IT is quite a lot of work, extremely dedicated, hard work for many, many years.

People don't just give you stuff, nor should they. But as I tell people all the time, if you work hard and you make yourself valuable and people need you, guess what? They pay you and you do okay.

so you are introit. Ed authorized when common Young first became mayor, and he was the, I think, the first big city american mayor to be explosive about politics, right? And the idea was, we're onna.

Get some for the people, detroit. And but IT was explicit racial. I didn't only get worked to try. I didn't get richer.

No, I didn't work at all. And what IT did is IT IT pushed a lot of the White people out .

of the city. Yeah.

almost all. yeah. And you know, the city didn't benefit from a lot of the things that more affluent people brought to and IT deteriorated very rapidly at that point.

And you know things they enough um I think people have learned people or people yeah and they choice been making progress over the last few years. yes. And the mayor there, dagon, is White, but he is a people person. I mean, he became mayor by walking from door to door, going into people's living rooms, talking to them, finding out what their needs were with developing relationships between people. You know, he not only got elected, but he got reelected, and he has been working with the you know several business entities and trying to bring revival to delay.

You raised in a world that sounds like by your mother, where merit was the measure.

Absolutely, uh, SHE pushed excEllent. And you, to a large degree, both my brother and I worked really hard in school because we want to please her because we know what he was doing for us. We understood that, you know, he could have taken up the office of some people. Many of them were well to do individuals, and kind of forgot about the Better.

You mean don't remarry? IT and SHE never did.

He never did. And he was always drill. But what we were doing after working two or three jobs a day, if I had a concert, SHE would come to the concert.

What your brother went up doing.

He became the rocket scientist. I came a brain surgeon, and he became a rock scientist. And did anyone .

else in your neighbor d do that? Well, the kids you grow up with.

Well, I mean, there is some some people, a few people who. Well known or anything like that. But I think two of my classroom mates itself, western high school, became physicians well, and at least one became a lawyer.

And so you know, there were there were sporadic, but you know, at that time, there was much more of a push for people to do Better than their parent. And now you don't see IT as much. You see more people saying that system is against you and you're a victim.

And we got a march for your right. And you know, you need to do what you need to do already get your own minutes. You know if that's taking stuff from somebody else, that's okay. IT does not good messages for people.

We need to remind people that people or people and that you know you make your own bed and you relied on IT and um if you want to get ahead, these mechanisms for doing that but IT requires hard work and one of the reasons that people who come here as immigrants to do so well is because they look around and they say, wow, you mean I like I do is work hard hi I had to go to school and do well, that's all and I can have whenever I want to. Its amazing I talking to A A Young woman from a cambodia ah what SHE not so Young now, but he was someone SHE came here when the camera rooge came in, yes, and completely destroyed their lives. And he ended up in one of the work camps.

But at age nineteen, SHE was somehow able to get to this country. And now he owns her own business. He became an engineer.

And SHE is just talked about all the amazing opportunities that he found in this country that SHE was not exposed to the um but he also told the question tell about kinds of things that are occurring in our country now that are very reminiscent of what happened when communism came to their country. And and if you go to our website, american corner stone, that org, uh, we have a segment called my american story. There are many people like the Young woman that I just talked about who came from communist or socialist environments. And they talk about the differences between our country and their country, but how they see some of them. There were something starting to happen in our country.

What do you think of the physical health of the country as a physician?

Well, we have about half or more of our population who are overweight yeah and have some other significant issues of large increase and type two diabetes. And people who generally are not engaged in a lot of physical activity have a lot of massacre scale issues. So in general, it's leaves about to be desire .

what that's change pretty quickly. I mean, amErica did not look like this in the eighties. Who wasn't that long ago?

Well, we used to have a lot more physical labor. Yeah and that help. And in a particularly among the men, they had jobs that required the muscle not working. You don't have anymore. And so I think that's affecting people's physical ilias.

Are you worried about chemicals in the air, water and food?

Well, interestingly enough, you know I know the the Green people talk a lot about our fossil fuels and they're poisoning our atmosphere. But if you're objective, you know that we have the cleanness here in the cleanest water we've ever had since we've done measurements doesn't mean that we shouldn't pay attention today things, but we shouldn't allow them to be used to manipulate people yeah and to control people. That's that's a real problem.

And as time goes on, we learn Better and Better ways to take care. The environment, I think we've learned to a large extent. Det, we shouldn't be throwing away things are not biodegradable into our oceans and poisoning our fishing. And I think there is a place for regulations that keep us from destroying our environment. But you know, going to the extreme and using also control people's behavior, I think, is probably not where we want to be.

Does anyone know why test astro n levels have drop so much?

That that's been a big question. Uh, you know some people think it's because, uh, we just don't engage men don't engage in a lot of physical activity. Um some studies have shown that france, the grip strength of men has decreased substantially over the last couple of decades.

I noted in the handshakes .

yeah and the grip strength of women has not so they're much closer now than 的 意思 呗。 So men Better be careful out there.

Think I think that's an understatement um but I mean, a drop has been so dramatic that there's gotto bees and you know abot but IT feels like there's gotta some specific cause that what we have been identified that's important .

to know about, it's just that we used to be much more and you know if you go to countries where you know the men and the women still engage in heavy physical labor, caring around heavy buckets and things like that, I mean, you can go there and you can see like a seventy year old woman, SHE can be a lot stronger than you are yeah. So that's just something that you know we have to have enough discipline to not just go and look at the chAmber to use.

Um another topic that youtube just want to talk about her vaccines um so probably news word vaccine. I think i'll just like take this down if we do um so major sam in favor of all vaccines and they shall be Mandatory. But with that aside, what do you make of the cover ocular tion campaign like with a couple year's distance? What was that?

Well, I mean, I think some of the people who were pushing IT were sincere, and they really thought that they were saving the population. I think others perhaps, that other models, some of them link to profit. Yeah, IT is what is very troublesome to me, is the Mandate.

They require people to get the vaccine if they want to keep your job. And so many people in the airline industry, in the medical industry, a first line responders military, lost their jobs, lost their pensions, lost their livelihoods because they refused to do IT. Those people have not been made whole, even though it's been proven, but they may have been right in refusing to take, you know, the back chains.

And we also discovered that many, the alternative, a treatment that were basically demonized, like hydronic, cira, mecon, were actually, they are effective. But you know, we had an fda rule that said we can't get to E, U. A.

The emergency use authorization for the vaccine if you had other effective treatments. So they had to you denigrate those when in fact, the ruling should be just the opposite. So if we're having a pandemic, use every avenue possible to find a solution, not just try to channel everything into one direction.

So the other thing that was done is we we didn't make known the complication rate of the vacations IT was much higher than previous vaccine ines. And you know transparency requires if you're gone to treat somebody with something, you need to tell them what to benefits in risk. We didn't do that. We just said you gotten do this and that's the declaration and you're not .

guessing that I mean, you're practicing physician or whole life that I thought that was required that that was like the basis of medical effects.

But I used to be something went out the window, one turns of medical ethics here and ah they completely through that other window and just said, this is the way IT is and this is what you got to do and this is what we say. That's the way we do things in america. And I think unfortunately, a lot of people paid the consequences of work.

And you'll remember about eight months ago, they try to say there's a new strain is coming back again. We may have to mask up. Nobody was mine IT. And I just saw the fizzle out pretty quickly. I don't I don't think we're going to go that route again.

Was IT weird for you since you were a doctor and one of most famous doctors in the united ted states. And we were told to trust the doctor, trust the experts. But you know, if you stood up a hot sector in set these things, you would have .

been censored on youtube. Yeah, no question. Many the doctors who did try to speak up against IT were where cancer or degraded in some way, and people were afraid to speak up.

And that was the real problem. I personally was a little bit disappointed with the A. M. A. And some of the medical organizations who just swelled or hook, line and sinker get an apply, uh the kind of rigorous uh, thought processes to this that we Normally apply to new treatments. And I hope they learned their lesson.

have they?

I doubt that .

he doesn't seem that anyone has been punished or even admitted falls to at least I haven't seen that if that happened. So that raises the question. Well, when we get another pandemic, which we will, will anyone trust the authorities? Will the authorities have, you know, trustworthiness? I mean, what's onna happen next time?

Uh, well, certainly no one try them right now. Yeah and hopefully we'll go on a new administration um next year and we can start rebuilding that trust. But that requires transparency and that actually explain things. One of the things that let you know um when you got a problem is when you try to punish people who disagree with you um it's always okay ay for somebody to disagree but it's not okay to punish them when they disagree with you.

And you know we were talking a little a bit of about you know election fraud are people who don't engage an election fraud are offended by you talking about that and they don't try to pass you. Good boy, if I can decorate you. One thing about .

election fraud is people who aren't engaging an election fraud are not defended. When you talk about IT, I think that's worth getting tattooed on your ARM.

actually.

And all a lot of people seem offending by any talk of election prod.

They're very finite. It's sort of like if you still the cookies from the cookie jar, well, then you're like to say no one can talk about the cookie chair. And if you talk about cookie chair, we're going to punish you. But if you didn't take a cookie on care.

Is there any hope of getting back to assist in the people trust?

Well, I think there is hope. Yes, there is. No, I may look at france. France banned routine million million in nineteen seventy five because they said there was just too much training, there are too many different ways to cheat. You couldn't control IT.

And they went to back to paper balding and an election day instead of election season. And they now know their results within a day or two. So, you know, we're about the only country in the world that does IT this way.

And why would we do that? Why has everybody else discovered that? The problem? But we haven't, obviously because somebody benefiting from the way that we do IT. And I think we probably should have a congressional investigation. And let's look at the way it's done in places where it's done effectively and in a way that people trust IT, and that's really just what we're doing.

Why haven't we do that?

Because there are too many people who benefit from the way we do IT. Now they don't want to change IT. They don't want to fix IT because then they can't get a glass of water to elected.

I think you risk making everyone very cynical about democracy if you have a system like that.

And I think A A lot of people are there going about IT. And this shouldn't be a part shouldn't a part of an issue. I mean, this affects all of us.

Um you want to talk about the threat to democracy. Having a voter election system that is very easily fraudulent is a real threat to democracy. And until we fix if if we can send a man to the moon, some people say we didn't era do IT. But if we can.

if we claim we can, we can certainly .

fix this election system. And if other people in the world can do IT, certainly we can do IT to .

who did you um i'm sure your I am ask you, but i'm sure you know you move to wash and you spent lot your life frighten nearby and bolt but it's a totally different city from washing i'm sure you are appalled in a lot ways and frustrated you said the congress ouldn't even give you your deputies for months who you are impressed by. Who did you think was a personal integrity, intelligent, hardworking, with there any anyone in the government you thought was great?

Yeah, there there are a number people that I worked with in the champions, istra's. Mike campo, for instance, had many long conversations with him about his work in the C I. I think, do you tell you .

any sick t like who killed canty?

I can't tell, because I didn't have to kill you. No.

have to kill you.

but. I was probably more unhappy with the number of people that I saw who weren't we call IT the swan, but the king and I call IT the cesspool because the swan police has some good things and yeah, it's pretty bad and it's going to require a lot of work to get us back to a point of trust where the united in the government.

And I think that's the reason that the swat for the sample is so frightened of downtown because he's not a creature that was born there, that was raised there that accepts and understands their ways and that you can have a disrupter like that to come into your home and to disrupt IT. And that's what they're afraid of. And that's why they will do anything to keep him on the White house.

including shooting him, include what do you make of that? I mean, you office, here you are in the cabinet, he would secret service protection you. But around this a lot, how could that have happened?

Well, I would require the groceries and confidence and negligence that anyone can imagine or some intentionality. It's hard to explain IT any other way I .

agree with that. So that sounds secure. We don't know. I think is .

the shorter answer nobody .

does or somebody does, but we don't. But you're open to the possibility that there could have been, as you put in.

some intentional, intentional, I mean, to have known several minutes beforehand that there was a suspicious ous individual and to still allow him to go out on that stage. I am a third greater would know Better than that.

yes.

So it's it's very hard to explain.

Trump has and talked about in this way I mean, in his convention speech, he described IT would like to be shot, right? Things were going on around them at that moment, but he did not suggest that there was again, as you put IT intentionality, he must know that that's possible.

I'm sure he does. He knows they want to get rid of him. I've talked him about that and he knows that they're not through trying to get rid of them.

The you know, track arrangement sand drome is a real phenomenon. I I know people who've been affected by people, people who used to think logically and they don't think logically anymore that it's almost like a disease. yes.

And you know they're feeling is that they are right and they are rights and they are the protectors of society and anything that they do is justifiable on that basis. It's very much like the the thinking of the radical j hardest, you know, insidious. You can lie to them, you can kill them. You do whatever you want. And IT doesn't count against you really, can you writers?

It's a scary attitude in a supposedly secular country. So how I mean sider ing you you're from detroit IT. You went to yale, you spend your life in medicine, you lived around ball to more. So those are, you know, not one of those is a trump strong hold?

no. And I grew up very much a democrats.

i'm sure you know.

from detroit to new have to boston to new haven to an arb, the baltimore, I was a total democrat, but I did have some some fAilings for since when I came to abortion. Uh, I never felt that abortion was right. But as a democrat said, I don't have a right to tell you what you should do.

what? Why did you think I was wrong?

Because IT was killing.

IT is killing, yes. And but why did you recognize that? But many people in your position though.

yeah, I don't I I don't know why they don't recognize IT. I can tell you, i've always felt that that life is my actions and precious. I guess that's why, as a Young child, I want to be a doctor.

I I listen to the stories about what doctors did that was particularly impressed by what missionary doctors did. And I decided when I was eight years, so that I would become a doctor. But looking at any other babies.

Being killed just because they happen to beat in the safest place where you can possibly be, which is in the mothers one. Therefore, IT gives you a right to kill them. Some people feel, and I know carmilla hairs feels that way strongly.

And you know as a pedia surgeon um I Operate a very premature babies sometimes twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine weeks car station and we had to give those babies on the stage they felt everything. And yet you have people who are willing to stick a force up into the years of a twenty seven week baby grab, whatever their twist and poll and outcomes, an ARM or a shoulder or another part of the enemy. My knowing that that baby can feel that, I mean, to me is about bark. And I don't understand how people can do. I truly do not understand how medical homies can do that.

We must know them.

I didn't know some people.

Have you ever talked them about IT?

Absolutely way. We've had some very heated discussion ons.

but I mean, you're in a different position because you would personally know people whose who have actually done that. What you just describe, which is common um what do they say?

They say they they talk about women's, right but what gives you the right to kill another human being just because that human being is being protected by you? And the thing that really changed my mind is I was thinking about slavery, and I said, what if the abolitionist had said why I don't believe in slavery? Bt, I don't have any right to tell you what you need to do.

What if that had been their attitude? Where would we be? So and in the bible says IT, too, and book of proverb twenty forth, chapter eleven and twelve, both.

What about those people who are being drawn and to death? The innocence? Did you say anything? And doesn't he who sees everything know what you did and what you didn't do? So I think we have a responsibility. When we know something is right or wrong, we have a responsibility to speak up.

I'm amazed that you would talk like this in a hospital medical school Operating room. I mean, IT IT that cannot be a popular .

view and IT wasn't. but. You know, I A long time ago, decided that i'm gonna speak out for what I believe in.

And even if people try to persecute you, this comes back to my faith. What is that little persecution against the back drop of eternity? So I not really worry about that too much. I don't think I can .

improve on that. dr. Carson.

thank you to thank you .

very much.

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