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What if we call the same? You jump on the my, jump on the my episode, jump on the mike episode. I was downstairs talking with two colleagues, and we were talking about geral, please, college drop off.
IT is the season i've saying goodbye. I've saying hello to new chapters of dropping people off, helping people move in the new jobs, move in the school, start a new grade. I guarantee you either you or somebody that you love is going through a major change right now.
They are starting at university and you're bad to drop them off. They're going into their senior year of high school. That's what's happening here in the Robin's household with her son, oakly.
You've made a new sports team. wow. And it's game on like you actually made the division one lets for can go.
Oh, no. Have you ever noticed that about changing that? You can be really excited about something.
You can be excited about moving in with your boyfriend or girlfriend or significant other. You can be excited about the new job. You can be excited about starting to finally date again after a divorce or a breakup.
But rose so nervous. And so as we were starting to share stories around the island in the kitchen, there is so much media, amazing stuff happening. I'm like, everybody shut up.
We're going upstairs for turning on the microphones, and we're talking about this. And this is an episode in a conversation free, whether or not you have kids. This is an episode in a conversation for you, whether or not you have anybody going back to school or starting a new job.
Because every single one of us has a very difficult time dealing with change, and those moments of goodbye are so trigger ing. And we also get trigger by the people that we love who get triggered by change. And so let's just start with lyn, who is sitting right here to my right. And he was the one who started this domino fall by saying that you just dropped off your daughter in college. yes.
And um you know it's heart watching every time. I think it's just part of the process. I think IT will be this way every year. And I just know that this is part of what's going to happen, right? This is the transition.
yes. Why is a herrick for you .
um seeing emotion from either of my children? I had this with my first born as well um dropping him off the first year. He thought he made the biggest mistake, chose the wrong school because he did not know a soul. And it's really scary to leave them in a state of, you know, kind of emotional distress. Yes, IT is so hard, and I didn't do the right .
thing the first time around.
Everything went wrong because I was so sucked into the emotions that he was feeling that I was crying. I was upset. I was not strong for him at all.
I wasn't encouraging him. I was wanting to take him home. You were in IT with him. I was so in IT with him and I think I learned that I am an impair so I take on the emotions of other people. Um I mean, a dog trainer told me once that I was, you know the week link.
So um it's true.
I was then the week link because anytime anybody else was suffering or upset or I thought I was putting somebody into this uncomfortable place, um I just fell apart and I had to save them and I was Robing them of the opportunity to rise up and deal with change because we all have to learn how to do that so right as I know, went through this with my son and now with my daughter. Although they're two different people um I know that the best thing to do for them is to encourage and to just remember and remind them of the skills they have to rise up to be able to handle anything you know and that makes them stronger adults.
So so what did you do differently dropping off your daughter the last couple days that you screwed up with your son at that first drop off?
Yeah, that's clear. Dropping off my daughter even though he was still emotional and loves her school, like really excited to get back, but it's a new living situation surrounded by new people. What I did differently is I don't show my emotion even though she's emotional. I just something just has to turn off in my brain and let her be emotional, understand that this is her transition.
And I reminded that are being a cold bit. I living off the week link with the dog trainer and path mode.
Yeah, yes. But you know, I will say this if you don't mind house on that story. That's what my mom did to me when I went for my ear corn, quote, abroad.
I went to hawaii for semester, and I was leaving. I will never forget this. I was getting on the plane by myself.
How old do you like? Nineteen, twenty years old, right? And I was so scared I could almost feel like my voice trembling. Now I can really in touch with how afraid I was. And I remember I looked at my mom and I said, well, I can always come back if this work out, right.
You know.
my mom SHE said, no, he said, you can come back. You Better make this work out. Let me tell .
you though, the thing .
IT was the best thing because if he had said, yeah, give me a if in five days that does that work out? Give me a call if your stomach is at a control with anxiety. Give me a call if you find yourself in the psychiatrist.
stop. S all of which happened, right? If SHE would have said that, I went, have given a call and I wouldn't have given IT A O right, right?
I would have kept looking back to my mom to see, is the time to go home at, can I be done now? This is so hard. And instead I looked forward at all the new people.
I was gonna ET, my roommates and all that stuff. wow. I was able to look forward and IT was cold arted. I have a story just like yours.
amy, where I would call my mother collect from a payphone every single day from the first floor of Russell sage dormitory at drama college. I don't. Friends and I was miserable.
right? But you do need that. You do. Dropping my daughter after the first year, he said, I made a mistake.
Can I come home and I said, no, definitely not. He said, what about after the first semester? And I said, no, definitely not. And shi, you know, so you have to make a go of IT for a whole year. You have to give IT. You're all you've spent a whole year choosing the school and you won't know you won't know until a year to you know to experience everything. And that's what .
you needed to hear. What are you thinking about now?
I literally probably look like going, number two, I have such a sn look on my face. I'm realizing I needed this conversation and i'll tell you why I hate feeling people in distress.
And I remember we dropped off our oldest soil, and he manages her discomfort around transitions by making lists and organizing SHE was packed, color coordinated, had out to roommates to pick up the bedspreads had masjid selected for all of the office supplies SHE would never use, all lined up. And I remember pulling in the boston college, and SHE just froze. And we set up her room, and SHE was completely disassociated.
You could tell sh'd left her body. SHE was having an auto body experience. I remember this moment where he was sitting up on her bed. And we, of course, had to buy the little stands that lift up the bed, put the readers under neath IT. And so she's sitting there, looks like a little kid because her feet we're dangling on top.
This big bed that we had lifted up with the things from bed, bath, beyond, and oh, my god and I said, are you okay and he said, no, I I think I made a mistake. I don't think I can do this. This doesn't feel right.
Why do you wanna do something instead of saying, no, we've moved doing. It's time to face IT. And so we drove in the boston and we walked around the container store and a target, and we had the world's worst early dinner trying to kill time, as you could tell that he just didn't want to go back.
And I was a major mistake at her man when we dropped off candle. U. S. Again, I love what you just said about the fact of if you spend a year picking this place, you have to give IT a year. I think that's a good parameter for a job too.
yeah. And great school like a useful a year working up to this next grade. Give IT a year. Yes, before you think lake, oh, this, you know like i'm i'm still afraid i'm not gona make this happen.
Yes, you spent a year. Yes, yeah. And I remember how hard IT was for candle to get into this program.
I've talked about IT on this, this podcast. IT was like winning american idol and a division one recruited to get into this pop music major program. Usc all SHE wanted to do.
This was her dream. We got out there. He was a lovering mess, sobbing like just clinging to you and you are saying goodbye and we're like, we got ta go.
We're actually flying out. We got to go. And then of course, I get upset. And I do think getting sucked into their nervousness, which is Normal, is destabilizing for them when you're not strong through IT.
And one of the things that I wanted to share with you guys immediately is steal this. All three of us have one major takeaway from this. And that one of the things that you can say to somebody is, of course, europe, that this is your process for going to change.
You always do this. You always think and get so excited, and then you get there and you don't like IT. This shows me that you're mentally well. This shows me that you're going through your process.
This makes me feel good that you're sad even though you thought you'd be excited because this is what you always do before major change that turns out great. And so you got arrive the way because this is part of your process. Don't expect you to be exciting.
And I think that's part of why these changes are so hard for people because you literally build them up like sophya junior year life afternoon ge is going to be freaking in awesome, moving in new york city doing doing that. And then this thing that you've just built up in your mind is coming at you, and you go, this doesn't feel like I thought I was gonna feel no at all. And then you freak out why? Because it's new.
That's why doesn't feel like what you thought I would feel. What you think it's going to feel like in your mind is very different than how your body experiences IT as is happening. And I need this conversation.
And I realized that because one week from today, our daughter is moving back to los Angeles to start life after college. And just yesterday I was saying goodbye to seven of her best friends from USA would come from her birthday weekend, and they were all getting terim. Because some are going in one direction, others are going in the other direction.
And I remember that moments so well for my own life, when everybody is scatters and you go to yourself, things, we're never going to be the same again, because we're never going to be in the same place again at the same time, living all together. And my life is moving forward, whether I want IT to or not. And so Chris is flying out a week from today to help kindle l move into her first big girl apartment and start life.
And soyer is living in twenty two days for this trip. She's been saving for for five years to go travel in asia alone. And you know what she's doing right now? She's making less.
She's not buying mass jorge, because you can't take a matter backpack. But less you ve got to embraced the list everybody, less and less and less. why? That's her process.
yeah. And you want to know what else I know. What do you think is going to happen when he lands in the very first country that he arrives in on the trip he has dreamed about taking for .
a decade to take, to reach out to you to be a mistake? Yes, yes.
yeah. Yeah, this happened with your daughter.
Yeah, absolutely. When he took her gap year. Yeah, he took her gap here.
And SHE was in spain. He was in molokai. We all went over. Our whole family went there there to drop her off. SHE was ready, as could be.
But when there comes that time, when you say goodbye to the old and you're ready to face the new, right, you're in the Terry barrier, you're like, I can't do this. What am I going to do? So I felt like I was like about to get swept up because we dropped her off early in the morning. But IT was a IT was a sunday morning, so everybody was out party the night before and there were people still drunk in on the streets of molokans and he walked us to our cab and we were just like.
we're leaving her here yeah, you feel like the worst mom in the world. You like you're deserving your child.
And SHE felt like I can do this. Mom, I need to get emotional. Uh, because here is why? Because I realized in that moment I have to believe in her more than he believes in herself.
And he has to borrow that for me. Yes, or someone else. I mean, what a beautiful thing is apparent that we can say, yes, you can.
Not a mean way, not a judges way, not in a shame way, but just like, yes, you can. You will triumph. Yes, you will look back at this and say, is that so funny?
Yeah no, that's that's amazing because it's true. They just need you to be confident, not cept into the the emotion, yes, and just be okay with the emotion like that. We're not OK when we see somebody upset, right? That's hard. But you know on the other side of that, if you encourage, they are going to triumph. They are.
they are in their own, and then they move up that latter of life do four months in spain. And then the next thing, you know, like they are doing something else really often.
I think this is a great time to take a quick pause. Well, because i'm still like john the floor about what you said and I I want to unpack that when we come back. So stay with us.
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Welcome back, I mell Robins, and i'm here with my two friends and colleagues, amy land. And we are all moms with kids that are college and post college and high school seniors and a high school freshman. And we are talking about what it's like to help somebody love go through a major change.
And of course, it's drop off season, it's new jobs season, it's start life after college season. And you probably either have somebody in your household that is either going into a new grade or getting dropped off at a school, or getting moved into their big person apartment for their big first job. And those moments of goodbye are so trigger ing because, well, first of all, I think we all agree, we can't stand to see people that we love in pain. And for me personally and selfishly, I don't know about youtube, but IT always reminds me those moments, what I had to say good bye to my parents, right? And IT makes me the experience, that terror that you can feel when suddenly the people that you love walk out the door and there you are alone in your apartment or in your dorm room, and you're in this new life.
Or I even remember when I was in nursery school, I literally remember being in nth school and my mom leaving.
I remember that too, you do was traumatic.
very dramatic. But yeah.
now every Young mom listening right now is like, we've discarded her for life.
Well, maybe we show a Better way to do IT you like, I mean, a week, what if you could prep the kid and say, you know, like you can do this and I know that this is going to be hard, but use that bridge, right? Like, when I see you again, you are going to have been to high school for the first time. Isn't that exciting?
That is a huge takeaway. So I want to make sure we took a highlighter and highlighted amies, sharing a technique that tons of psychologists and researchers talk about, which is creating a bridge between this moment and something in the future. And they always say that when you drop a little one off at a daycare or school, you build that bridge inal.
Like, i'm going to see you tonight. I'll be here to pick you up. You're gonna have a great day playing with your friends and i'm going to come back and then we're going to do this.
And the same thing, i'll see you at thanksgiving. I'll see you in a couple months when I come visit, i'll see you and in a week or so. And so creating a bridge is a wonderful way to provide that emotional stability.
I would also want to take a minute and highlight two things. Lyn was talking about this ability that she's created right when he dropped her daughter off this year to switch gears and to feel that pull like, oh my god, i'm going in. I'm going to the title wave and then flip into a mode of strength. And amy, I keep thinking about what you said, which is the way that you show up in those moments allows the people that you love to borrow your belief in them.
Yeah, I love that.
That is so cool. Yeah, I mean, it's so important. I know I really needed that when I was little, and I don't know that I got IT all the time.
And I know when I did receive IT, I did so much Better. You know, I really was able to ground myself in the understanding that I could do IT rather than panic about not being able to do IT. So I think borrowing confidence from other people is is live scale because you're not only managing other people through change.
You have to learn how to manage yourself through change very. You have to learn how to manage yourself through even just the day to day stuff, all these little things and big things. How can I do this? And if you're overwhelmed, it's going to be a lot harder.
But if you have even just a sliver of confidence, you know, even just like a little light through the crack of that disbelief that you have, there's a lot of confidence like, well, I handle something like this before I did freshman year. Be thought more here I could do right, like I did nursery school first grades gonna a little bit Better. Maybe if you can get that confidence somehow, either from somebody else or something that you've done in the past. I don't know that how I manage myself and that's I think I can teach my kids. Yeah.
I had never thought about IT that way like that. The role in that moment of drop off is to act in a way where you're exuding confidence in their ability. Yeah, you acknowledge this can be really hard and you're right, junior doesn't feel like off where you did and you're not living with the same people.
And you know the same people aren't on campus and people have graduated. So it's not gonna be exactly the same, but I could be even Better. And this is gonna hard, and I believe in you, and I believe when I see you again, you're going to be doing great.
And I love you and I miss you. And then look him in the eye, give a big old hug, kiss, then turn on and pretend you actually feel all those things as you walk away. You gotta walk, yeah, away without and running back for that, how I always do.
Yeah, yeah. Well, I want to turn to you then. I don't mean to put you on the spot, but you're doing this for yourself because you left a job where you were for ten years very successful and you are brand new to our team.
And you're here in vermont that are the first off site that we've had where you've been on the team. How are you coaching yourself through a big transition? Because, you know we've been talking about being that confidence for someone else. How are you doing IT for yourself because you don't even look slightly so nervous .
you know I think I am um because you always wonder right, that little boys in your head that will say and I the right person, is this the right opportunity? But I just don't give myself permission to listen to that voice. I don't.
I just know that I ve been capable before of transition. I am not afraid of change even though it's uncomfortable. I know I can do IT.
So I just keep telling myself that and it's interesting you ask because I mentioned my daughter this morning, i'm going through all these things too, you know, even as upset as you are, I know this is going to be perfect like you loved last year, right? And I didn't even know if he would get emotional this year. I was kind of hoping i'd escape IT.
You know I did in and so yeah yeah but it's you know it's perfect because now I have something I can say to her that, you know i'm going through all this too. I don't know if the team s gonna like me or if i'm going to be the right person for this job, but i'm going for IT and i'm just telling myself that I know I can do IT just the way you can and you are going to thrive this year. And he feels so confident. I know just in the responses that I get from her that that gives her that that little boost of confidence that SHE doesn't quite yet have for herself. But over college transitions, job transitions, every transition, if we, as the parents, can do that for them to, just like you said, you know, be that that voice giving them that confidence that, you know, maybe they just need that little push, eventually they'll IT for themselves, know, and they won't need, then they'll doing IT for their kids.
I think one of the reasons why I ve always been so triggered in these goodbye moments is because I left tom at a time and I never moved back. Wow, wow. I left michigan to go to dark. And it's not like drive home for a weekend. And so I would only see my parents on the big holidays, and then I stayed on the east coast for jobs and for internships.
And so I think part of what I Carry into these transitional moments, like I am thinking, god, i'm not the one moving candle in because these stir ups so much for me like, am I ever going to see you again? Does this mean you're going to live in L A. forever? And I know I just want you to live whatever you are, happy as much as I want you to be my extra neigh, or which I would love.
And i'd love to be in a business with my kids. I love to see them every day. I can't lay that on them.
And so IT brings up so much for me when, so where goes and travels in the back? My mind, that will be, oh god, are you gone to meet somebody as you're traveling? Or you're going to live in asia? Are you going to be so far away? Because I miss my parents terribly.
Like one of the things that I hate the most about having raised our kids in boston is what my parents were around because you're still michigan. And so I think that's also part of what makes IT so difficult for me. And I love what youtube sharing because it's given me a new way other than shop down the trauma.
It's given me a different way to think about IT, that you, as a friend, as a family member, as a parent, as a partner, you have the ability to display confidence on someone's behalf. yes. And that allows them to borrow IT.
Now I always then stop in the car that's a good, or in the airplane or whatever move yeah, yeah, but that was really helpful. Thank you. Ah, yeah, thank you. Yeah, absolutely.
So how would you then deal with that if you had to take Chris place to move candle in? Do you think you'd be able to do something different? Or you you think that I would be hard or because i'm sure there are a lot of people that are feeling like how would actually does this look? How I how can I jump into that role?
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Welcome back, I ml robbins. I'm here with my friends and colleagues, lin and amy, and we are talking about just going through these seasons of change. It's a huge drop off back to school new job kinds season as well recording this right now.
But this is a topic that is part in any moment in your life. And I didn't realize how deep this was going to go. I thought we are just going to talk about tips for college drop off and.
Home after I all about, I living ster, my parents and I set up. And you should just ask me what I handle IT differently. First, I have a confession.
I secretly hope candle doesn't end up. And I and I notice i'm a bit of an assessment time. He does any kind of grapes about the L.
C. And my you really are just like these coast persons. And I realize that I am doing this because I desperately want to move and .
saying that when her friends said .
goodyer weekend they were here for her birthday in a bunch of were moving in new york, SHE got really sad, was like, I wish I was going to be in new york with all them and i'm like, i've actually you could live in only for you, then you don't move back here. So i'm being an asal because i'm starting to plant that time. I to stop doing that, I could absolutely have a ball moving her in.
I would get very theory when I say goodby e and I think part of IT is because instead of holding the confidence that this was gonna be one of the best years of your life, and you're about to do the thing that you've been wanting to do forever, and I can't wait to see what you produce this year in terms of your music career. I think about like all the ship that impacts me, god, to get no older. I of these kids, are you spouting their wings? yeah.
wow. Like times line. I start going there in a very self reflective. And i'm going to use what we've talked about today to stay in the space because I have a choice. I don't have to torture myself.
I don't have to make everything so deep that what can always ask me not everything's that deep, mom, you just because you're move in me a new one apartment doesn't mean you it'll get a deep yes, you could just stand and confidence and go go get up. Good luck paying your bills because this is IT. This is a moment we've been waiting for and I think what you both have said, flip the switch.
No, you're all in that moment. yeah. Don't let a cit too deep be confident about what's about to happen for them and exuded so that they can borrow IT from you.
Yes, that fuck helps me. Thank you. Does anything else come up for you as in terms of those moments? And then i'm going to share one story quickly that is super important. And I think everyone.
i'll get a lot of value out of yeah, I just think that you know you just is great and like you might get emotional, but that's okay you can get emotional with and tell them you've got this like this is what you want and really ask them questions because maybe he does want to go to new york.
but maybe he does not, right and SHE go. But I I think you know it's .
like we that would be music to your ears if he wanted to change your mind. But you don't want her to give up on her dream either. So it's like really being the voice to ask those pRobing questions even when we might want something, you know. And it's really up to us to say what would your path look like and just make sure that they are making the decision not to please us because I could get really comfortable with that like I could totally .
lead that right. Was causing that much guilt trip for people.
But would I be serving my kids in their futures? No, I wouldn't. So yeah.
you also makes you think of is those phone calls I got from our daughters when they were first at school sitting alone, crying. And i'll tell you what really helped is this idea of narrow ing. Their focus acknowledged that it's hard, say you're not the only one, but you've got to narrow their focus.
Let me tell you what I mean by that. My friend Carrier larens, who's the first female at fourteen fighter pilot, wrote a book called span of control and an emergency situation. There are only three dials that matter in a fighter jet that's IT.
And you got ta narrow your focus so that you can gain control. Or if you're like overwhelmed by something, it's super important that you narrow your focus. And so if you are gonna get that theory phone call, I don't think I can do this. Somebody, he's crying from the bathroom stall at a new job or you, after a big sport practice at a new team that one of your kids is made, they're really like, really upset, narrow their focus.
What can you do in the next hour? What's one thing that you could do? What could you focus on? Because part of what IT happens, I think, in these moments of change, whether had a new job or you're sitting in your dorm room alone, is you're like, I don't know what to do.
I mean, a new neighborhood. What do I do? I feel like a dark. I feel like the only one, I don't know anybody work. I don't know what people are talking about.
You have to get out of your office, you have to get out of your cubicle, you have to get out of your room, and you have to force yourself to start walking around and talking to people that will make you feel Better. It's the same thing when we moved here, like I wasn't going to meet anybody. If I SAT in my house and cried, I had to get to the coffee shop.
I had to push myself out of that freeze mode and through my discomfort and keep remind in myself mell, this feeling is Normal. You're going through a big change. It's gonna pass. But bit you've got to do some about IT like you want friends, you get your about out there. And the same is true with you and the same is true with the people you love.
Another thing is truly helpful is that if somebody is overwhelmed by going through change, a lot of times the response to IT is to freeze as you've been learning a lot of episodes, freezing and procrastinate, a kind of anxiety or even a trauma response to something very overwhelming. And change is always overwhelming. It's just part of the duality of IT.
We are learning this today is coach the people in your life to put some things in their calendar. Take a look at what's going on this week. What could you plan to do? Who could you reach out to, uh, and you know that you've met in the dms and set up a lunch.
Who could you ask to go to the cafeteria with you, those sort of bread, crum ming of dates with people or things to do or sign up for this event so that when you look at your calendar you see forward motion. I got a call from um a goal that I consider to be like one of my daughters you know who you are. And SHE had pulled over on the side of the road and was calling me because he was having a panic attack.
And I asked her, okay, we'll tell me at first fall. Tell me, what do you see around you? So I used that grounding technique. You go tell me one thing that you can see. Tell me, you know something that you can hear right now.
And then we started breathing together, and I told her, put her hand on her heart so we, like, helps her drop into the moment and really ground into her body. And the dogs are barking right now. It's okay.
We're going to just keep on roll in because this is one of those hot on the mike, a kind of episodes. Um and we started talking and he was explaining all the stuff that was going on. He had just graduated.
The job that he was certain had been delayed. The family has just moved. Mom has a big job, a grandfather sick. And what I said there was, as I said, you know, the fact that you're upset and kind of panicking right now tells me that you're mentally healthy because anybody going through this level of change and that much transition you should feel completely turned around and so the fact that this is bothering you tells me you're well yeah and I also want to remind you that it's temporary and the most important thing that you could do is to remind yourself this is temporary.
Ah the fact that i'm bothered by all of this change and i'm upset about IT and I feel out of sorts is a sign that i'm doing well because I should feel out of sorts. I'm in a new environment. There's a lot of change going on. And the same is true when you move back to school or you start a new grade or you start that new job.
It's a sign that you're mentally well if you turned upside down because everything is now and your body needs time to process the new environment and the new rythm and the new people around, the new space that your living are working in and the new commute and the new everything. And it's really a good sign that even though you're excited, your nervous and you feel activated, that's because there are so much new stuff for you to learn and absorb right now. And so if you can remind yourself that it's temporary and if you can take a deep breath and tell yourself that the fact that i'm upset about this change doesn't mean it's going to be bad IT just means i'm going to change.
This is my process, and I want to personally say to you to thank you because I am not dropping off candle. But majority ally, i'm gonna think when I say goodby e to her on sunday night and SHE and Chris drive down, i'm going to put my hands on her beautiful cheeks and i'm to look straight. I want to say, I know that this is going to be hard, but it's only gona be hard for a little bit.
And I believe in you. And remember, this is how you do change its socks for two weeks. Just get into a good random.
And before you know that you're GTA be Better than you ever imagined, I love you. Go get him. And then i'm going to turn around. I'm going to pull my shoulders back and i'm going to stop away from her like I meant IT because I do and as soon as I turn the cornel, I will collapse and have one of the dogs is are crying because she's leaving.
Sounds right. That sounds right.
And that's how we do change.
Here are on the melt abb that I love IT like it's some fucked and powerful bitches.
Yeah fantastic.
My biggest takeaway today is just this idea of being a surrogate of confidence for somebody else. Just because somebody that you love is upset, you don't have to cry with them. In fact, it's Better if you just acknowledge that this is hard and then say, now pull up your big girl panties and get your rest out there and go make some friends are right well, in case no one else tells you, you're mentally well because you're nervous and I love.
And I love you and I love you.
And we believe in you. We believe in your ability to just go through whatever going through and know that you've got what IT takes to get through IT. And we believe that. So borrow the confidence that you need from us and will talk to you a few days.
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Test, test, right? OK. Now we are all at the time, and they were the same levels.
All three of us have one major takeaway from this. And it's that I forget what the ticket way was. Oh, this is your process.
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