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Winning Financially in 2025: Setting Yourself Up For Retirement

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Nicole Lappin
一位致力于财务教育和媒体的专家,通过多种平台帮助人们提高财务素养。
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Nicole Lappin: 制定成功的退休计划的第一步是确定你实际需要的退休金。这需要考虑你希望在退休后维持哪种生活方式。我将退休生活方式分为三个等级:足够富裕(满足基本生活需求)、相当富裕(维持现有生活水平,偶尔享受一些额外开支)、超级富裕(拥有远超消费能力的财富)。 首先,你需要列出每个等级下每月和每年的必要开支。 对于足够富裕的生活方式,只列出绝对必要的开支,例如住房、食品、水电费等。然后将每月开支乘以12,得到每年的预算。 对于相当富裕的生活方式,在足够富裕的预算基础上,增加一些额外的开支,例如偶尔外出就餐、健身会员费等。同样,将每月总开支乘以12,得到每年的预算。 对于超级富裕的生活方式,在相当富裕的预算基础上,增加所有你能想到的高额开支,例如度假屋、游艇等。同样,将每月总开支乘以12,得到每年的预算。 接下来,你需要计算出在整个退休期间(通常为20-30年)你需要总共节省多少资金。将每个生活方式等级下的年度预算乘以你预计的退休年限,即可得到所需的总储蓄金额。 我以美国中位数家庭收入为例,给出了三种生活方式下所需的储蓄金额:足够富裕(60万美元)、相当富裕(120万美元)、超级富裕(200万美元)。 记住,这只是一个参考,你的实际情况可能会有所不同。 Mara: 作为一名听众,我希望能得到关于如何预测退休所需资金的指导,以便更好地规划退休储蓄。

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What is the first step in creating a successful retirement plan?

The first step is to determine how much money you will actually need for retirement. This involves calculating your anticipated annual expenses and multiplying them by the number of years you expect to be retired.

What are the three levels of wealth outlined in Nicole's upcoming book?

The three levels are: 1) Rich Enough, where basic expenses are covered without frills; 2) Pretty Rich, which allows for maintaining your current lifestyle with occasional splurges; and 3) Super Rich, where you have more money than you can reasonably spend, enabling a luxurious lifestyle.

How can you calculate your annual 'Rich Enough' budget for retirement?

To calculate your annual 'Rich Enough' budget, list all your essential monthly expenses (e.g., housing, utilities, basic food), add them up, and then multiply the total by 12 to get your annual budget.

What is the recommended number of non-working years to budget for in retirement?

Nicole recommends budgeting for 20 non-working years in retirement, though some financial experts suggest planning for 30 years. The exact number depends on personal circumstances and preferences.

How much money is needed for a 'Rich Enough' retirement lifestyle based on average U.S. household income?

Using the average U.S. household income of $63,000 before taxes and an annual burn rate of $30,000, you would need $600,000 saved to support a 'Rich Enough' lifestyle for 20 years of retirement.

What is the estimated savings needed for a 'Pretty Rich' retirement lifestyle?

For a 'Pretty Rich' lifestyle, with an annual spending target of $67,000, you would need approximately $1.2 million saved to cover 20 years of retirement.

What is the estimated savings needed for a 'Super Rich' retirement lifestyle?

For a 'Super Rich' lifestyle, with annual spending of around $100,000, you would need approximately $2 million saved to support 20 years of retirement.

What is the purpose of Airbnb's co-host network?

Airbnb's co-host network connects hosts with experienced local co-hosts who can manage tasks like reservations, guest communication, property support, and even listing creation, making hosting easier for those who cannot manage their properties full-time.

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NerdWallet's 2025 Best of Awards list provides curated recommendations for the best financial products, including credit cards, savings accounts, and auto insurance, based on extensive research and reviews of over 1,100 products.

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This chapter emphasizes the importance of determining your retirement needs. It introduces a three-tiered approach: 'rich enough', 'pretty rich', and 'super rich', each representing different spending levels in retirement. The process involves calculating annual expenses for each level and considering the duration of retirement.
  • Three levels of retirement wealth are defined: rich enough, pretty rich, and super rich.
  • The first step to retirement planning is determining how much money you will need.
  • A roadmap for calculating retirement needs is presented.

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Money Rehabbers, you know I'm all about adding more streams of income. And one of my favorite ways to bring in some extra cash is hosting on Airbnb. But when I recommend hosting on Airbnb, some people tell me they get overwhelmed by the idea of being a host, or they feel like it would be too complicated if, say, they want to put their investment home on Airbnb, but they live full time across the country. I mean, you just can't go back and forth every time you need to change the sheets for your guests. If thoughts like these have been holding you back, I have

great news for you. Airbnb has launched a co-host network, which is a network of high quality local hosts with Airbnb experience that can take care of your home and your guests.

Co-hosts can do what you don't have time for, like managing your reservations, messaging guests, giving support at the property, or even creating the listing for you. When I'm hosting, I always want my house to look architectural digest-esque amazing. But with how busy I am, it always feels like a scramble to get the house ready. So I will definitely find a co-host that's

that specializes in cleaning and staging and all the nice things. Net, net, I'm matching with a co-host so I can still make the extra cash while also making it easy on myself. And you should too. Find a co-host at airbnb.com slash host. I'm Nicole Lappin, the only financial expert you don't need a dictionary to understand. It's time for some money rehab. I know we have.

Hey, it's Morgan, the executive producer of the show. And as you know, this week we are playing the money rehab episodes that will make the biggest difference to help you meet your financial goals in 2025. Today's episode is all about saving for retirement. Enjoy.

In the financial world, retirement is a really big deal. So it's a really big deal here on Money Rehab as well. Naturally, I have covered it on the show, like in episode 136, The Secret Way to Snag a Roth, and episode 63, Choose Your Fighter, 401k, or Roth IRA. But the very first step in making a successful retirement plan is to know how much you'll actually need for it.

Money rehabber Mara wants to know exactly how the heck to make that prediction. Here she is. Hey, Nicole. My name is Mara. And after listening to some money rehab, I'm ready to get serious about planning for retirement. I started making contributions to my 401k, but I'm not sure if I'm contributing enough because I'm not sure how much I should save for retirement in general.

How do I know how much is enough? Thanks so much. Love the show. In my upcoming book, Miss Independent, Mara, I outline three levels of wealth, but I'll give you a quick sneak peek before it comes out. Here is number one. I affectionately call this one rich enough, where your super basic expenses are covered without any frills. Think of the brown rice and beans diet. Here's number two.

If you feel best maintaining your current lifestyle, complete with occasional splurges like dining out or buying yourself something pretty, we all do, it is the pretty rich life for you. Being pretty rich in retirement allows you to live comfortably with some indulgences, but doesn't factor in a ton of future growth. And here's the third.

Last but not least, we have the super rich level, which entails having more money than you can reasonably spend, aka baller status. You may already have a sense of which lifestyle you want to shoot for, but the next step is to crunch the numbers to see how much you'd need to save in order to achieve this lifestyle. There is no one right answer for how you want to spend when you retire.

The only way to get this wrong is to not think about retirement savings at all. Your plans can and will change, but having a realistic idea of what you're aiming for is the only way you'll be able to figure out how to get there. So let's make your retirement roadmap. For this, you'll need a writing utensil, a pen, paper, a Word document on your computer, whatever you have handy. For

First, we're going to map out how much money you need per year for the rich enough lifestyle. To do that, write down all of the monthly expenses in your bare bones budget. These are the expenses that are absolutely essential. No more, no less. I'm talking housing, brown rice and beans, utilities, the necessities. Once you have your list, add up all of the expenses in your monthly budget and ta-da! You have this.

the rich enough category. Now multiply that number by 12 and you get your annual rich enough budget. Keep that writing utensil handy because we're going to go through this same calculation two more times. Get excited. Next, let's find your annual expenses for the pretty rich lifestyle. To do this, you should take your minimalist rich enough budget and then add on some extra layers of, well, extras. For this step, list out some mid-level financial treats.

Eating out every so often, signing up for a bougie gym membership, whatever sounds good to you.

Then add up these extras and multiply that number by 12 so you get your annual extras for the pretty rich lifestyle. And then on top of that, add your rich enough annual expenses to get your total pretty rich budget. Should I still have you see what I did there? Your pretty rich budget is going to be your rich enough budget plus some pretty rich extras. Get it?

Got it? Good. Now let's calculate the super rich annual budget. This is where we dream really big with the biggest ticket items you ever think you could possibly want. Again, we'll end up doing some layering here. To find your total super rich budget, you're taking your pretty rich annual expenses and then add on all the

all of the annual expenses for everything else you could possibly think of. A vacation home, a yacht, a fleet of jet skis, a big monument with your name on it. Seriously, go crazy. Now estimate how much per month you think you'd shell out to maintain that fleet of jet skis. And honestly, some of these things are totally within your reach. If you think about the spirit of what you want, maybe it's not bad.

buying a fleet of jet skis, but maybe it's renting one at a lake once a year. Then you know what to do. Multiply the total monthly costs by 12. Now you should have three numbers. Your annual rich enough budget, your annual pretty rich budget, and your annual super rich budget. We're not

quite done yet because this is just the amount you're anticipating spending in one year. Remember, this is your retirement budget we're talking about. You won't be working. That's kind of the point. So you won't have any income coming in. So your next task is to calculate how much you need saved in total to support your lifestyle throughout the whole span of your retirement. You do this by taking your annual totals for your rich enough,

pretty rich and super rich levels and multiply those numbers by how many years you expect to be in retirement. Typically, when I coach people on calculating their goal retirement savings, I recommend that they anticipate spending 20 non-working years in retirement. Other financial experts recommend budgeting for 30 non-working years. Really, that's a personal decision. I know you might be thinking,

sheesh, warn us before you bring up our mortality. I get it. No one wants to think about how much time we have left. It is the big old elephant in the retirement room, though. Here on Money Rehab, I don't let that elephant go unacknowledged.

Dumbo can grab a seat and join the rest of us in the pod closet. So did you do the math? I'm going to throw out some numbers for three levels of retirement wealth, but your numbers might not look exactly like this. I'm just going to make some educated guesses so we can talk hard numbers. Let's start with the rich enough level.

The median household income in the United States is about $63,000 a year before taxes. The average annual burn rate, that is how much you spend per month and per year, is about half of that or $30,000. If we go off the average American needs, that's

20 years times $30,000 a year, and we get $600,000. We need to live the rich enough lifestyle in retirement. Now let's move on to pretty rich. For the purpose of this example, I'm going to use the $67,000 figure as the target annual spending in retirement because it's the average salary in the United States. So that means you'll need to have $1.2 million for

for a pretty rich lifestyle level of retirement. Finally, let's check out our super rich option. If you want to be super rich and your annual spending is clocking in at something like 100 grand, then you'll need to aim for around 2 million bucks to live out your days like our patron saint of badass old ladydom, Betty White.

For today's pep talk, you can take straight to the bank. Listen, in today's episode, we face the music. Well, numbers, but we'll end with some music. And we started with some too, which is by far the hardest step when thinking about planning for retirement. Crunching the numbers may have made you realize that the retirement life you're envisioning will take more work than you actually thought, or you may need to scale back. That may be the case, but I'm not sure.

But also remember, after listening to the show, you're not going to have just one source of funding for your retirement. I am not saying you have to make $2 million to have $2 million by retirement. You can make...

And rest assured, you are here in Money Rehab, which makes you in the exact right place to get your retirement shit together.