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#265 - Time, productivity, and purpose: insights from Four Thousand Weeks | Oliver Burkeman

2023/8/7
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Oliver Burkeman: 我花了许多年探索时间管理的各种方法,但这些方法并没有带给我预期的满足感。我意识到问题不在于方法本身,而在于我们对时间的错误认知。我们往往将时间视为一种需要掌控的资源,试图通过提高效率来掌控未来,但这是一种徒劳的努力,因为人的生命是有限的,而可能性是无限的。我们应该放下对时间的掌控欲,活在当下,珍惜与他人的关系。那些看似完美的时刻,往往并非刻意追求的结果,而是自然而然发生的。我们应该学会接受自身的局限性,并从与他人的关系中寻找意义和满足感。苏联的五天工作制实验失败,也证明了时间同步的重要性。我们应该学会与他人同步,在共享的时间中寻找意义。 我们常常陷入‘大石头、小石头、沙子’的误区,认为只要优先处理最重要的事情,就能掌控一切。但实际上,生活中真正重要的事情往往远超我们所能处理的数量。我们应该学会放弃那些虽然重要但并非最重要的‘中等优先级’的事情,专注于少数真正重要的事情。巴菲特的25件事的比喻也说明了这一点。我们应该学会说‘不’,不仅是对那些我们不想做的事情,更是对那些我们想做但并非最重要的事情。 在2014年,我意识到试图掌控所有事情是不可能的,这让我从焦虑中解脱出来。我们应该接受自身局限性,在有限的时间里追求有意义的生活。追求无限的可能性注定会失败,因为人的生命是有限的。我们应该放下对时间的掌控欲,活在当下,珍惜与他人的关系。 我们应该学会耐心,允许问题存在而不急于求成,这样才能找到更有效的解决方案。循序渐进比竭尽全力更有效,因为持续的努力比短暂的爆发更能带来成果。及时的行动比计划更重要,因为计划往往会因为各种原因而被推迟。及时的慷慨、及时的行动,能够让我们更好地体验当下,并建立更深厚的人际关系。 我们应该学会好奇,以开放的心态面对生活中的不确定性。将时间视为一种资源,试图掌控它,这是一种错误的认知。我们应该认识到,我们本身就是时间的一部分,我们应该活在当下,珍惜每一刻。 Peter Attia: 我认同Oliver的观点,我们对时间的掌控欲,源于对死亡的恐惧和对永生的渴望。我们试图通过提高效率来逃避死亡的焦虑,但这是一种徒劳的努力。我们应该学会接受死亡的现实,并从有限的生命中寻找意义和满足感。 我曾经也有过宏大的目标和人生规划,但后来我意识到,这些目标和规划并不能真正带给我满足感。我开始反思人生的意义,并逐渐认识到,人生的意义不在于追求宏大的目标,而在于珍惜当下,与家人和朋友相处,体验生活中的美好。 我曾经试图通过掌控时间来掌控生活,但后来我意识到,这是一种不可能完成的任务。我们应该学会放下对时间的掌控欲,活在当下,珍惜与他人的关系。及时的慷慨比计划中的慷慨更有意义,因为及时的行动能够让我们更好地表达感激之情,并建立更深厚的人际关系。 我们应该学会耐心,允许问题存在而不急于求成,这样才能找到更有效的解决方案。循序渐进比竭尽全力更有效,因为持续的努力比短暂的爆发更能带来成果。我们应该学会接受自身的局限性,并从有限的生命中寻找意义和满足感。

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Oliver Burkeman is the author of The New York Times best-seller Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals. In this episode, Oliver delves into the pervasive idea that time can be mastered, exploring whether maximizing productivity is an attainable goal or a perpetual trap. He discusses the allure of attempting to control time—and, therefore, the future—and shares his personal journey of experimenting with diverse time management techniques that failed to deliver the emotional satisfaction he sought. Ultimately, they explore the mismatch between being a finite human and existing in a world of infinite possibilities and how all of these concepts intertwine with finding a sense of purpose and meaning. Additionally, Oliver shares insights from his book on productivity, using our time wisely, and embracing our finitude to live a more fulfilling life.

We discuss:

  • Oliver’s experience that led him to write the book Four Thousand Weeks [3:15];
  • Human’s relationship with time and the struggle with the finite nature of time [7:15];
  • How productivity can be a trap [11:00];
  • The fallacy that being more efficient will open up more time and bring a feeling of control [16:45];
  • The paradoxical nature of trying too hard to be present in the current moment [22:45];
  • The value of relationships in meaningful experiences and fulfillment, and how time gets its value from being shared [26:45];
  • The importance of time synchronicity [36:00];
  • Identifying your biggest priorities and the paradox of wanting to do more than you have time for [41:00];
  • Oliver’s moment of clarity in 2014 [47:15];
  • The role of a sense of purpose in fulfillment [50:15];
  • Reconciling the finite nature of time and letting go of trying to master your time [59:00];
  • Why we tend to have a future-focused attitude and how to combat that with atelic activities [1:05:45];
  • The power of shifting your perspective about time and your experiences [1:12:45];
  • How to operationalize the three principles for the dilemma of finite time [1:20:15];
  • Harnessing the power of patience in the face of a problem or experience [1:28:00];
  • The value of incrementalism for being productive [1:34:15];
  • Embracing your finitude with curiosity [1:38:00];
  • Acting on an idea in the moment rather than letting the idea be the obstacle [1:41:15]; and
  • More.

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