Ep 932 | Phil Gets SO Real with His Class Audience & Jase’s Dirty Diaper Encounter Opens His Eyes
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I am unashamed. What about you? Dealing with Jesus, his death, burial, and resurrection. The scriptures say, 1 Corinthians 15, by this gospel you're saved. If you hold firmly to the word I preach to you, otherwise you believe in vain. For what I received, and we need not ever forget this, by the way, I will add. Mm-hmm.

For what I received, I pass to you. Now, you can say it any way you want to call it. But I passed on to you, the Apostle Paul said, it's of first importance. In other words, you get this on straight, and that's the most important thing in all of this.

First importance, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures. Amen. That he was buried. Yes, he was. Amen. That he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures. Yeah. He appeared to Peter and the Twelve. But the bottom line is, that's a pretty good reminder of don't dodge that or get messed up in your mind about Jesus when he showed up. I mean...

I want to remind you, I preached to you, you received it, on which you take and you stand. Well, that's where I am right there. I'm standing on the fact that Jesus died and was being raised from the dead. There's no better way to start this podcast. Welcome to the podcast. That's right. There you go. So, I've been with a toddler for three days, so this is good conversation. Yeah.

I saw him yesterday. He is so amazing to watch kids grow, you know, they just, because I only see him intermittently. I mean, you see him a lot more than me, but he is a beautiful young man. I'll see him on the weekend sometimes. And we had a good time. I had a great conversation with his mom yesterday as well. And that's the beauty of it.

of what we talk about and trying to be together for families. You know, you just, we're all part of this thing going in one direction. Right. You have, there's things that happen in your life that are new normals and, uh, and, and being a part of the kingdom and having new creations happen regularly means you get involved, uh, kind of in the network of the growth process, I guess. But, uh, so I had a few interesting ways to, uh,

Humble myself and sacrifice because, you know, we had a little pool time. And Missy, we had some company coming over. So she's like, okay, you need to distract him for 90 minutes, which was a big deal.

And I think what we got going in the kiddie pool is the way to do that. Does your music trick still work? Oh, yeah, it works. But that's temporary. That's not 90 minutes. That's five. And I think that's his time for, you know, kids have security moments. And for him, we may go, you know, 10 days and not see him or whatever. He loves sitting in my lap and listening to music.

I mean, he just, he snuggles up. It's a security thing. And there are good songs that were worship songs. And there's a lot of, I'm going to say this. This is not embarrassing. That kid can sing. He's two, two and a half years old. He can sing the songs, worship songs, more in tune than me.

I realize it's not saying a whole lot. It's a low bar. But if you're two and a half, it's still good. It's still pretty good. That's pretty good. Yeah. Because Missy's like, he is on tune. And I'm like, are you sure? Because I don't. And I have to say, there's not a lot of other things he could do to impress Missy more than that, because she's into music. Well, I think she's contributing. Maybe hearing it from her. I don't know how that works. But yeah.

Zach's a singer. He should know. Zach, you're a singer. So I was going to finish my story. I got 90 minutes. I got him in the kiddie pool. Ten minutes into it, I notice a film happening in the water coming off around where he is.

And I realized something. I thought, what is causing that? Kind of like, you know, these oil spill. It's like the oil spill in the Gulf, BP oil spill. And I said. You don't want to see rainbows appear around you in the pool. That's never good. I said, you got poo-poo?

And immediately he went to try to take that diaper off. Don't do it. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Firestorm, no. So I picked him up, got his little swimming trunks off, got the diaper off. But you know what had happened, because he's in the water, there was a...

And I'm like, well, what do you do? I can't put anybody in the pool. I mean, you could. Well, I got 80. I was contaminated now. We've already got a rainbow slick already in the pool. I've got 80 minutes to go. So this happened the first 10 minutes. First 10 minutes. So I go over to the water hose.

And we have a dowsing. I mean, I'm just saying. That's the move, though, right there. I'm pretty proud of how I handled this situation. Pretty good. I went old school. Phil, you remember when we used to have a problem? We had boats that didn't have...

Any other way to get the water out besides we would take old milk jugs. Bail the water out. And bail the water out. So I created me a bailing can and I removed all the contaminated area.

from the pool just like i would bail out you were bailing out the pool bailed out the pool now that is pretty that's a redneck well just because it just was in a little tight space we have it shut off from the rest of the pool and then the water yeah the clean water filter back in and uh of course then we just he just went the way he was born the rest of the because i didn't have another option i wasn't going inside

And because I thought, and if he does this again. Then we got a problem. We got a problem. But I took a gamble and there was no problem. It freed him up and.

He had a good time. It turned into a skinny dipping. It turned into a skinny dipping for him, but he didn't care. He's two years old. Yeah. He had a, he had a, not a BP oil spill. He had a B, a BM oil spill. Yeah. That's what it was. But anyway, that was way too much detail, but I just thought this is, you kind of find yourself in that moment saying, how did we, how did we get here?

But we're here, and I think part of being a servant for the kingdom is it makes you appreciate really what primarily our wives and moms do out there on a daily basis. I mean, it just made me want to. At church yesterday, every mom I saw with two kids, I thought, I get it.

No, it's even like, so Lisa and I were talking about this. We were working on our, we got a couple of events coming up this week and we were working on our PowerPoint and she said, well, we got to, you know, now we got to tell this, the cancer story. You know, it's part of our story that we tell what God's doing in our lives. And it just struck me that it's just what you just described as we, as we grow in our faith and in our marriages and what we're trying to do for the kingdom, um,

everything comes in it's just a new opportunity what you just described you couldn't imagine yourself doing that again unless maybe no i i think i had a panic yeah and said i realized you're but it was my you know to make it figure it out that's right that's because all of if i would have gone inside said babe she would have said figure it out so i'd already said you're 20 minutes into 90 minutes

I just couldn't do it. I was like, I got to figure it out. But I was talking about that with mom this morning. And, you know, it's just you reach these phases in your life, in your relationship, and we grow older. But it's a good thing. It's a good thing because it opens you up to new opportunities to serve people. And what a blessing that is. I mean, that's just, that's always good. So, I mean, the phase where Lisa and I are now, it's just I have an opportunity to serve and love her in a way I've never had in my life. Yeah.

And I think it's a good thing. It's made us stronger. It's made us better. Yeah. Well, I just, I don't know why I told that story, but I'm just saying it made me appreciate not having to do that every day and appreciate people who do. And especially when I think when you're doing it about kingdom ventures, I mean, because to be honest,

I believe everybody is made in the image of God and deserve a fair shot at life. And so sometimes God uses us to step in these gaps. And in the meantime, it's going great. Helping the mom, helping the kid.

Well, that's what struck me because yesterday I preached in our church and we run two assemblies at the same time. And one is an instrumental assembly and even beyond just instrumental and acapella because that's our tradition was acapella. But even beyond that, I would say it's more kind of the young people that have been saved out of the world. A lot of difficult situations. They tend to gravitate toward the service I spoke in yesterday. And I like preaching in there because it's a lot of energy. I was in there.

And you were there, and that's what I was saying. I looked back, and you and Missy were back there with the baby. And yet his mom was in the same assembly with us, and she's doing great as well. And so I just thought about that idea of community. So I was preaching, Jase, as you know, in Hebrews 10. And it's interesting because Dad started us off today with this, you know, his points out of 1 Corinthians 15.

And I was in the back half of Hebrews 10 because I preached two weeks in a row, which is very rare for me now, which, by the way, I mean, I can appreciate. You know, I used to preach every Sunday. Of course, we're doing a lot of podcasts, too. But man, back to back about kill me. I was like, how did I do this? You know, just and never have a year and take two weeks off a year.

That's why I don't like the one preacher system. I know. For you guys out there that are passing my hats off to you, because it's been a few years, and even me just going back to back. But I relished it because I was able to set the context in this chapter and then come back and follow it up. Because to me, to understand the back half of Hebrews 10 properly, you have to really get into the front half of the chapter. Don't you think, Jason? Oh, I agree. Because some people have made some very bad applications

of the back half of Hebrews 10. But, Dad, I thought about it. So I started out Hebrews 10, 19. He says, therefore, because he's just come out of this thing about how awesome the forgiveness of Jesus is in the first part of this chapter. And you remember, we did a podcast about it. Yeah. A few podcasts. Yeah, so I was on there when we did it, yeah. Okay, I was wondering. And I thought there was a really great point that you made before you read verse 19 when he quoted...

in chapter 10 and verse 5 about Jesus's body. And that was Psalm, what was it? It was Psalm 40. Yeah, Psalm 40. But it really went into what we're talking about in Ephesians about Jesus, the power of Jesus becoming a human as the plan of God.

to bring people together. And then, and that's the beauty of it, Jase. It's really, it's our study of Ephesians has so expanded my capacity of even going back and studying Hebrews because that idea about the body was so powerful that I didn't really realize from Psalm 40 that it was predicted, but also then the spirit being poured out to his body on earth. I mean, that's in verse 16, Hebrews 10. So that's why I was saying that's so good because it's,

It's a lot like Ephesians, where I think if you miss this in your faith, it's going to be real hard to grasp a lot of the things you read in Hebrews and Ephesians, which is when Jesus went to the right hand of God. Because Phil started us off talking about the importance of the death, burial, and resurrection. But for right now, once he was raised, him going to the right hand of God as an exalted, eternal human...

Then the Holy Spirit is poured out. What does that mean? It was poured out, made available for human beings. The Holy Spirit of God here. Exactly. And it allowed him in heaven, now that he has proximity...

as God in flesh, to then have a presence on earth, and it's us. It's us living out. It's people. We're going to get to that the next time we study Ephesians. Well, just a thought. If the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile. You're still in his ends.

Just look at what's riding on Jesus, his death, his burial, and resurrection. Then those who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we're to be pitied more than all men.

But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead. The firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. As far as Adam, all die. So in Christ, all will be made alive.

But each in his own turn. Christ the firstfruits, I mean, he whipped death. Then when he comes, those who belong to him, then the end will come when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he's destroyed all dominion, authority, and power.

For he must reign until he has put all of his enemies under his feet. And the last enemy to be destroyed is death. Yeah. Oh, what a... That's powerful. So when someone, well, you know, do you believe in Jesus? We see these verses pop up in the rest of the Bible. But that right there, you say, oh, you better get the resurrection of Jesus Christ first.

You get that in your head and don't budge. Yeah. Well, and that he's the only way you get out of here. And that he's, he went to the, to go back to the Hebrews. He's appeared in the throne room of God on our behalf. Yeah. As an eternal sacrifice forever. It's over. Done.

But the access is now. I love the immediate, like the immediacy. Is that a word? Yeah. Like the immediate. You betcha. Yeah, it's now. When you're reading about the gospel at the very beginning of 1 Corinthians 15, I was thinking about in Mark 1, when Jesus talks about the gospel coming and says, believe in the gospel.

He always connects it with the kingdom. And he and Paul does the same thing here. I just as you read that verse 24 and verse 15, 15, it just hit me. And it says when then the incomes, when he delivers the kingdom to

to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. And, you know, if you think that the kingdom is only out there and not here, then what kingdom is he delivering? If it comes at the very end of time, then it doesn't make it. So you kind of see it here that we're coming into this kingdom

where Christ is king. Yes, he will be king at the end, but he is king, and our king is also our priest. This is the Hebrew language. And the priest is also the sacrifice, and the sacrifice is also the mediator. And you start to see the centrality of Christ and how we're connected. He's so central to our entrance into the kingdom. But

But it is for later, but it's also for now. Yeah. You bet. That's why we can be renewed day by day. You know, when St. Corinthians...

Or says that we focus on what is unseen. I think it helps us to be patient too, because I love what Zach just described. You think about it, because we're like, I think every era in human history, especially in the last 2000 years, says, well, what are we waiting on? I mean, you know, let's go and get this thing going. However it's going to end, let's wrap it up. And I always say, well, that's great for the guy that got in today, but what about the guy that gets in tomorrow? Yeah.

He's glad it waited one more day. I mean, you know, because the access is still open. So the illustration I use this idea, because he uses the word confident.

In Hebrews 10, 19, brothers and sisters, we have confidence to enter. And that's a great word. The Greek word is parousia. And at its core, the Greek word means boldness, clarity, and openness. In other words, there's no doubt that with Jesus in the heavenly realms that we have access. We can go there with him. And so I use the illustration about mom and dad's house down here.

You know, it's like, man, it's way down here. It's the middle of nowhere. And

And because of the little duck show we did, we had to put a gate up just because we had so many people that were coming and going. And so, like, it's not easy to get there. It's not easy to get into. You get there, the dogs are running around, they're barking. So I painted the picture, Zach, that when you drive, I drive up, I know exactly where I'm going. I can close my eyes and drive down here. Yeah. Because I drug out every ditch from here to town my whole life as a kid.

And I come up to that gate. I got a button. I push in my truck. The gate just opened sesame's. I go back there. The dogs come out, meet me because they're thrilled to see me because I got food usually when I'm coming. And then I walk right in. I don't even knock on the door.

I just walk right in. Mom and dad are sitting in their chairs and then we go right into a conversation. And I am I am bold. I'm confident. I'm open. I have clarity because I belong. I grew up in this house. This is my parents in my house. You know, I have total comfort there. And so that's exactly the kind of picture.

that the Hebrew writer is painting. And especially for people who have spent their whole, for thousands of years, not being able to get into the most holy place. And I use Jason's illustration. The old high priest would go in there, tie a rope around it,

Because there ain't nobody going in there. We're tiptoeing in once a year with a rope tied around us. And if something happened to us, they're not even coming to get us. They're just dragging us out under the curtain. And I thought, man, what a tepid, fearful way to realize who God is. And so that's this shift that's happened. Yeah, I think that was based on tradition. I don't think that is. Well, you don't see it in the scripture, but yeah, exactly. But I think it's an interesting thought.

But how do, I mean, you think about that kind of confidence though, when you, I love how you linked to the word confidence with, with, with you felt at home. Right. And like when you're in like your space, you're,

You know, you feel confident. And, you know, so I get a lot of different settings where I feel really out of place and inadequate. And I'm like, like I'm trying to network these networking events. Like, you know, you do it. You always feel weird when you're there. It's like, man, I feel so comfortable. I feel like I'm out of place. But when you're in your own space, you do feel confident and you feel at home. And I was thinking when you were talking about that.

How do I get that kind of confidence? And think about how you got that kind of confidence in your own home. It was actually not through some one-time amazing event where it was like, this is my home now. It was just the life you live, the mundane, the day in, the day out. Even the way you were describing driving to your parents' house. When you're driving, I bet you money, you kind of said it, you're not making one

cognitive decision on which, when to take a left, when to take a right. You're not even thinking about it. You're just on intuition because you've done it so many times. Complete, complete muscle memories. I just muscle memory, you know, every turn, you know, every way, you know, you know, every spot in the road, you know? Yeah. It's the same story. I'm good for it. Every Sunday morning, whoever comes and the way it turned out, they just started coming and,

From where, I'm not quite sure, but out of our reach. But they come down there, and there's about 50 of them every Sunday morning. I just get my Bible out, starting anywhere. I've told them about Ephesians and what that says. But anyway, it goes to them. And then you meet down there. Does anybody in here want to be baptized into Christ, put their faith in Him?

I have it on the board where they can see it. I said, that's it right there. One raised a hand like that. But three, that's pre-lesson. After the lesson, two more. And they was a husband and wife. And when both of them were baptized, the husband did it first, was waiting for his wife. And his wife was baptized into Christ.

And they put on a long kiss, I'll say. Yeah. Well, they were married. That's good. Now they're married again. Yeah. Married again. Married to Jesus. I heard about your lesson yesterday. I had about three people say, and they just volunteered it. They were like, yeah, they were visiting.

Because then they come find other members of the family and we take pictures or whatever. So I'm saying I met most of the people that were in your class yesterday.

But they said, boy, Phil was excited. He wouldn't let Jersey Joe talk. And I got that from three different people. So you must have got on a roll yesterday. It was one of them get out of the way. I've got something to say. Yeah. Get out of the way, New Jersey. I thought it was funny that they all said the same thing. Yeah, one of them was that young couple from Tennessee. They were fantastic. I was saying he's a young Christian guy.

But yesterday, I just had the information. You're in the zone. Yeah, come on out. You're in the zone. I love it.

Well, I wanted to bring up this Hebrews 4 because it's talking about this confidence. Therefore, we have confidence, which we didn't. Did you ever read 18 of Hebrews 10? No, let me read the whole thing, the three verses. Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the most holy place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way opened up through the curtain, opened up for us through the curtain, that is his body.

And since we have a great high priest over the house of God. As you did that, and the good news was,

It tied in to exactly what I had just got to say. You'd already just been saying it. Just opened the gate there, and you went on out there. And I haven't said that, Dad. You say, why does the Hebrew writer keep going back to Jesus? I was like, it's because he doesn't want us to forget the most important thing. Well, every letter does that in some capacity. But this was in response to...

To the Holy Spirit being poured out, and when he said in verse 17, their sins and lawless acts I'll remember no more. And where these have been forgiven, there's no longer any sacrifice for sin. Oh, yeah, open with that, you're right. I mean, that's what I was trying to get. Because that's where your confidence comes from. You're like, well, wait a minute. It's over? My sins have been, you're not even going to remember them? This is deeper than forgiveness. Okay, you've been forgiven, but he's like,

That's over. The sacrifice. He said there's no longer any sacrifice for sin, meaning they're done. They're gone. Yeah. They're gone. So if you are having trouble with that, who's to blame? That fact. Yeah, it's us. You could try to blame Satan. It's not him. Well, you could try. Satan definitely leads people. He is the accuser. He is the accuser. By the way, I asked for a hand raising yesterday.

during the process of preaching the gospel. And I must admit, you get that out in front of them. I mean, I said, raise your hands if you've been drunk on wine or whiskey. I thought you meant just like raise your hand. I said, raise your hand. Raise a hallelujah. No, this was raise your hand if you've ever been commode hugging drunk. Oh, boy. Way to put them on the spot. Guess what 100% of them said. Raise your hand. Guilty as charged.

Well, Dad adds a whole new element to hand raises. He does, man. Yeah. I would probably say that most people would say that was probably... Raise your hand if you've been commode-hugging drunk. I said, look to your left and right now. And everybody started looking, you know, and they were all looking around. They said, well, at least we're all together with...

See how brave that is with dad. Somebody gave me that cup a few weeks ago at one of our services together that has dad's sayings. Only dad commode hugging drunk. Does that not make being drunk sound the worst it could possibly be? I mean, that's a great saying, Dave. Can you remind them? I mean, it's not good, but I'm saying. I've been where you're raising your hand. That's actually a pretty good thought, Phil. It is. Just think, if anything you're doing in life where you're having to hug a commode,

pretty miserable you know we can beat this coming up yeah jesus that's the thing it's so good there's got to be a better way because you know everything else is little songs hey we're getting tipsy it's all making the sound so much fun dancing now it's commode hugging that's i must admit i threw that in there in the last year or so but i just thought to myself you know people go back and they look at their life or they say you know

I mean, there's and there's they're written on the board is life and peace and forgiveness. Yeah. You need to have a T-shirt, Phil. You can have hug people, not come out. We have to start a T-shirt company at some point. Jace has all this. Jace, you got all these ideas. When you were in that Hebrews passage, though, I mean, it's so connected to

Because my first thought was, and we're in Ephesians, but you're in Hebrews. But when you have painted that or when the Hebrew writer paints the picture of that curtain. Yeah. I mean, all that is, is temple language. Yeah. I mean, this is he's talking about entrance into the temple. And that's the point we made a previous podcast. I mean, this is where God meets with his people. Right. And so we talked about like the confidence to enter into the holy of holies. Like, where is that now? And.

It's in Jesus, and that's the language that Paul is laying out in Ephesians, and he ends Ephesians 2 with that kind of language that Jesus himself is now the cornerstone.

In him, the whole structure being joined together grows into a holy temple in the Lord. So when you think about the confidence of that, your confidence is in him, which is why that passage, was it 1st or 2nd Peter 3 when it talks about baptism? 1st Peter 3. Yeah, he says this water, the waters of the days of no represents baptism. I'm probably butchering it, which now saves you also. Yeah.

It's not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but it is a pledge of a good conscience towards God that saves you by the resurrection. So you say, how do I pledge my good conscience towards God? Well, your conscience isn't clean unless your confidence is in Christ. Then you can go. So it does it by the resurrection, which that's the whole baptism thing with Romans 6. You're connected with God.

The cornerstone of the temple. That's what you're doing when you're being baptized. You're saying, I'm being connected with the death, the burial, and the resurrection of Christ. I'm being connected with Him. I'm being born again with Him so that I can now be a living stone of

built on the cornerstone. So Christ is that cornerstone of the temple. And that's what we are. We're just a bunch of living stones, which is kind of weird because stones aren't living, but we are. Which is interesting, Zad, because that's exactly what the next verse says. It's showing you how this nexus has come together in our study.

In Hebrews 10.22, in our response, it says, let us draw near to God with sincere heart, full assurance that comes from faith. Listen to this, having our hearts sprinkled to

to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water. I mean, the Hebrew writer hits the exact same thought that you just mentioned that Peter said, which we also see in Ephesians chapter two, is the only way you can ever have a clear conscience. I mean, totally to be clear is to understand there's no sacrifice for your sin that's left because he's done it for you. And that exactly is what I major in. Jesus, him crucified. What a, what a,

To cleanse the human race of every mistake they've ever made. Right. I mean, it's a confidence thing. That's why I love that. I love it when he said, I want to go back to the confidence thing because I never got to give my take on that. Yeah, you let me know what you want. And if you're asking, well, why are we doing Hebrews? I mean, it's not fair to Al because it takes a lot of prep for a sermon. That's right.

Then we jumped back to Ephesians. That was an outstanding sermon. And it was so good. And it was a two-parter. We felt like we gave you an earlier part.

before, so that's why we're doing this. But to go back, he had brought up the idea of confidence before in Jesus. We went to Hebrews 2 about the human family, him becoming part of the human race. In Hebrews 4, right? In Hebrews 4, but I want to read it because it says the same thing. And I had a couple thoughts in your lesson yesterday that just hit me, so I wanted to see what y'all think.

Almost riddles, I guess. I thought Zach's one of the smartest people I know. That's good riddles. I have an interesting take on this. In Hebrews 4.14, it says, Since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. We do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way just as we are.

yet was without sin. So it's not just that he is saying back to Hebrews 10, look, it's over. The sins are gone. I'm remembering no more. But he's also already said, I get it. I'm sympathizing with your weaknesses. I was tempted in every way. And so a lot of people say, yeah, but well, he was the son of God. That's why he didn't sin. Well, he became a human. And why be tempted if

He couldn't have done anything about it. It's going to be my riddle question, but I wanted to read the rest of the verse before I do the riddle. Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need. So there's that. Let us approach the throne of grace with confidence.

So that we may receive mercy. I mean, it's a common theme in the book of Hebrews is what I'm saying. So my riddle was this. You ever think about when there's some people who won't say the Lord's Prayer because Jesus says, forgive us our sins. What's exactly it say? So that we may forgive. Those who trespass against us. Yeah. Well, Jesus didn't have any sin. Mm-hmm.

So have you thought about that? That's the riddle. Why is Jesus praying, forgive us our sins? Well, he was leading the prayer. Now, immediately, people are going to say, because I went, I had to Google this and see where they are. I thought, I've never thought about this before. But everybody's always had this argument and discussion. But I did notice there was a lot of confusion about that. Most people just said, well, he was just telling us how to pray.

But you got to remember, in Hebrews, this is all grace. We're all responding to his grace, not some kind of work system. He wasn't Sermon on the Mount, wasn't some kind of rule-oriented. He was trying to get us out from under a rule-oriented system. So then you can take it further. Why was he baptized?

He was standing in line with all the other sinners, but he wasn't a sin. That's why I wanted to read that Hebrews 4. He never sinned. But it shows you what he did. He came down as a human, experienced what we experience, and walked in our place so he could help us. You need a path to go by, and I'm going to make the path.

But my point is John's baptism was what? The baptism of repentance. Oh, for forgiveness of sins, I believe, wasn't it? Well, he didn't have any. Yeah. So now we know what happened. What did he have to repent from is your point, yeah? Well, yeah. Why is he doing it? Obviously, he was showing us something bigger. I'll add to your riddle. James 1, God cannot be tempted.

nor does he tempt anyone. What Jesus, we've learned here in the Hebrew, what he said is he was tempted like us in every way. So obviously God becoming flesh is a big deal. He became a human. That's why we read a few podcasts ago, the whole Hebrews 2 section, that he was not ashamed to call us brothers within the human family. Yeah, I read that yesterday. And he did that because of 14 through 18. He destroyed the power of the evil and

But it says, since he shared in their flesh and blood so that he might destroy him, how is the power of death? That is the devil. That goes back to what Phil originally read. So I think it's basically why I told that story about the little toddler that we're involved with. I mean, in his life, I'm his only father figure. I'm the only adult male in his life.

And I just know from being a part of the human family, you need that. You're going to have a lot better life if somebody is representing a father-like figure, even though we're not physical blood. Got to be there. It's got to be there. So even though I don't identify with him through blood, through that kind of DNA in his world...

This is what we're doing. And so I think that's what Jesus did by becoming a human. He didn't identify with committing the sin, but he went through the process. He went through the temptation. He even went through the humility of being baptized in a baptism that was being the repentance for forgiveness of sins, even though he didn't have any. Now, we do know he received God's spirit. And I think it's John 6 that says that

God set his seal of approval on him. It was just obviously a reference of the Holy Spirit. I can look that up if I need to. But I've always viewed that as a fascinating verse about the Spirit, even though it doesn't mention the Spirit. What else could it be talking about? I think that's John 6 in verse...

27, when he said, you remember when he fed the 5,000 and he said, y'all are looking for me because y'all want another meal. And he said, I tell you. Y'all had your fill. He had your fill. He said, y'all are looking for me, not because you saw miraculous signs, but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. Own him. Own him.

He's speaking of himself in the third person, son of man, as a human. God the Father has placed his seal of approval. Yeah. Well... Same wording from Ephesians 1. Ephesians 1, what is the Holy Spirit? It is a seal of approval. We've gone through the same process he did. And so that's why he's not...

unable to sympathize with our weaknesses. Ultimately, we have confidence. You can't say what most people, not most, but a lot of people feel like he's a million miles away. He can't understand if Jesus is King of Kings, Lord of Lords on the right hand of God, how come this is going? He doesn't understand. That's the evil one leading you down that road. Like, oh, you're nothing. You don't matter. You came from

A single cell. You're not worth the blood of Jesus. Yeah, that's it. It's detachment. It's detachment. It's detachment. It's detachment. It's isolation always. And he said, like, no, you can be together. Have confidence despite all what you're seeing here. I went through the process, not because I had to, because I wanted to. I hadn't thought about this, but so I made a point because there's three more let us.

Let us hold unswervingly Hebrews 10, 23 to the hope we profess because God is faithful. Let us consider verse 24, how we may spur one another on towards love and good deeds. And I made the point that that's paying forward. And Jason, I wish I had heard you say that about John six, because what a great illustration.

He says, you come back because you've had your fill for what? More, more feel. When the idea is in crisis, once you've received food from him, you need to go share food with someone else. You know, take what you learn and go feed other people, you know, should be the mindset. But instead, it's just like what he described. We're always wanting to go back. It'd be like me coming out there and saying, you know, mom and dad, y'all fed me some great meals in my life. I expect more.

You need to get back in that kitchen and feed me. That's not my life now. You taught me and trained me. So guess what? I'm constantly cooking and feeding other people. The idea is it flows out, which is exactly what he says. Excellent point. That's the thing that was happening in the feeding of the 5,000. And right after that, he feeds 4,000 people with very limited bread and fish and

And then there's a story in Mark eight where even the disciples are like, they have one loaf of bread left and, and they're like, how are we going to eat? And Jesus is like,

Have you guys not been paying attention? Have I not showed you what I can do? But I love that John 6 passage when he talks about what the real bread is, because he has a whole section Jesus does in John 6 where he says that, he said, you guys are worried about the bread that came down from heaven, manna, you know, fell out of the sky there in the Exodus.

And what do they do, by the way, when God said, eat what you can eat today, but don't pick up any extra. What do they do? They try to pick up extra. He's like, you're missing it. Don't work for that guy. Give us this bread. And Jesus said, I am the bread. That's it. I am the bread. So I was going to tie that up with Hebrews because the central point of Hebrews, if you said, what is the whole point? Is Jesus said, I am. I am what?

I am priest. I am king. I am sacrifice. I am temple. I'm all of it. And so when you get to the end of the Bible in the book of Revelation, I was thinking what the word I am. It's like he's like in all of it. And this is how he says it in Revelation one. This language is I'm the first and the last. I'm the alpha and the omega, says the Lord God, who is God.

who was and who is to come, the Almighty. And then when John has this vision of the sovereign Christ, you know, this resurrected Christ that was so powerful that when John saw him, he fell at his feet as though he was dead. And that's when Lord Jesus touched him and said, place his right hand on me and said, do not be afraid. And here's the reason why. So here's the confidence. I am the first.

And the last.

I am the living one. I was dead going back to 1 Corinthians 15. And now look, I am alive forever and ever. And I hold the keys to death and Hades. And that's the confidence right there. It's the centrality of that man, that God man who conquered death. Yeah, that's why I brought that up about the prayer. Because then, don't you know that they later, once they kind of all got it post-resurrection, they look back to that prayer and thought,

He created us and saved us and forgave us, and he didn't have any sin. I mean, it wasn't a rule-oriented system. That's why I'm glad you brought up 1 Peter 3. You know, baptism wasn't part of that old system.

Judaism system. It was all a work based. If you keep all these rules and what did that do? It, it reminded you of putting the forefront of your mind that you didn't have any confidence. It was the opposite of being confident. And so then when he, he decided to do this new thing and you see Jesus being baptized, you see him saying a prayer like that. He's shifting their focus on that system to him.

Even like what he did with the, with the, I would add, thank God he is. I just think it's the most clever. It just think about how that is written. And when you put all the pieces of that together, I mean, you talk about a plan that, okay, I'm going to create humans. Then I'm going to become one that I'm going to identify with them. So they'll understand that. I understand what's going on. It's not like I'm detached. And because of love, uh,

And humility, which is what God is, that's how it came all about. Even the plan you mentioned show, and we've had this question before, why would God create this plan for us that he knew wouldn't work? But you're viewing it from the wrong perspective. Think about it. It was a temporary plan.

to coexist with God, but it was never a permanent solution until he became flesh. So again, you're getting in that human mindset, just like of us saying we're ready to go. You can't fast forward. He had to create the system for us to understand who the Savior was when he got here. It's like I've heard the illustration. It's like a road being under construction. Yeah, that's a good point. You just have to go through it, and it's...

you may lose an axle while they're working, but it's hard for you to envision where this road or how it's going to be a new road. And it's just part of the process. In our temporary minds, it's hard to wrap our head around it. But when you get to Hebrews 11, the last verse, and it says, none of these people who were part of that construction road

They didn't receive the promise, but only together with us were they able to look back. I hear the train a-coming. It's coming around the bend. I tried to hit mute, and now that you've already acknowledged it. Every once in a while, you have a train whistle moment, and this is it. You call that the business breaking the fourth wall right there, so he just broke the fourth wall.

fourth wall. Well, you used to, Zach, when you used to have that old office in downtown Black Mountain, and you and I did a few podcasts in there, it was the train track was literally right outside the door, and it sounded like you were on the train. Well, wrap it up, because at the end, he's going to say, don't throw away your confidence. So I can't, there's two points I have to make, and I don't have time to make them.

fully. And so we're going to, we'll lead this on the next podcast if you're with us. But, but I will say this two things. One,

What you mentioned, Jace, about community. Because he says in that last, let us, is let us not give up meeting together. Some are in the habit of doing. And that word habit, I want to talk about the next podcast because the Greek word there is ethos, which is more than just what I'm doing all the time. It's my character that's created out of what I'm doing. It's the Greek thought, which is pretty powerful. When you think about the people you surround yourself, what that looks like. Because you mentioned about the Jewish people,

They had a system. They had a tight community. I mean, throughout all of human history, and especially when Jesus came into being. But the thing about it was they were motivated by all the wrong things. They had formal rituals as the thing that drew them together as a community instead of family rights. In other words, instead of understanding that Jesus is our brother,

And he's come here to save us. Everything was about formal ritual, which is why they missed the whole point. So three questions, and I'll leave you with this as we end the podcast, but I'll come back and answer that third one because it's so crucial to understand in these last few verses. Who do we believe in? Which that's how Dad started the podcast. Who do we believe in? We believe in Jesus. We believe that he is who he said he was. He's God.

It continues to accomplish what he said he'd do for us. He takes care of our sin. How do we respond? Which those are those let us passages. And we do that confidently inside family. And then the question I want to talk about next time, and this is huge, and this is where people have misunderstood so much, is why in the world would you turn back?

to wanting to do it by your will and your way. Yeah. Why would you ever want to do that? Because you know it won't work. And so I had a point or two in there I want to make, and then a great story that I kind of wrapped everything up with that's from Joe Beam, which I'll tell that in the next podcast.

Yeah, that's good. And you're going to make the point because it says those who turn to their own will, they are trampling the son of God underfoot. Oh, man. And just think about that. And they're treating as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sacrificed him. Yeah. So, which is something we need to discuss. All right. So we'll talk about that next time on Unashamed.

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