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Hi, everyone. Welcome to I Choose Me. You know it. This podcast is all about the choices we make and where they lead us. You know my guest today from his roles in so many things, rules of engagement, Nashville, splitting up together.

And I recently had the best conversation with him over on his podcast that he co-hosts with his sister Kate Hudson, sibling Revelry. And I just think he's funny. He's self-deprecating and completely unfiltered, which I think is absolutely why I enjoy talking to him so much. Please welcome Oliver Hudson to the podcast.

Oh, dokey. Artichokey. Artichokey. Here we are. Hey, I heard you just left the dentist. What happened? Did your tooth hurt? Oh, get it. Hmm.

I had a root canal like a while back. This summer in Greece, I ate a caramel and it pulled my whole tooth out. And so I have been existing without a tooth for months. Wait, which tooth?

Well, now you can see it. It was this one. Yeah. It was far back enough to where you don't notice it, but you can also think that I could be like a meth head or something. Yeah. It could go either way. I've done Drew Barrymore, her show a few times with the tooth out. But now I'm doing this Netflix movie and it's like a Christmas movie and I can't smile. You need your teeth for a Christmas movie for sure. Yeah.

Yeah, so I'm leaving shortly and I had to go get it done. Well, good. Because it feels weird when you are missing a tooth.

just in your head, in your mind. You're like, wait, something feels wrong. It does until it doesn't. Meaning if you're lazy like I am and you've had this missing tooth, now it feels strange to have a tooth in my mouth. So I'm in the process of getting used to a full head of teeth right now. Good. I'm glad. I feel like that's a good thing, Oliver. Not only that,

But I'm in like stage dad hell because I'm doing a show. I'm doing a movie. And my son auditioned for it. And he did four or five auditions. And he's never done anything yet. He's been acting class for six weeks. Six weeks? Yeah, six weeks. And he ends up getting this part. And it's in Toronto. And it's not a small little part. He plays my son. It's like throughout the whole movie. It's like a big...

Oh, my gosh. This is a big deal. It's a big deal. But now I have to go through all of the processes, processes of being like a stage dad. I can't chaperone him. I have to have someone who's there. Apparently, when he's not working, they have to like be with him at the hotel, you know, or the Airbnb. He's 17 and extremely self-sufficient.

And I kind of made a bit of a promise. I said, look, I know he's not Canadian. I know he's under 18. But, you know, if you like him, I will help cover some of the costs of the tutoring and this, this and that. So I've just dug myself a hole. And now I am

Become something that I don't know how to be, which is... Yeah, it's tricky. I did a movie with my daughter, Luca, once. And it was a weird feeling because you're like acting and you're in that mode and you're not in...

watching over your kid mode or making sure that they're feeling like they're doing a good job or supporting them in the way they need to. So it's tricky. Yeah, it's tricky. It's tricky. We're just right on the edge, you know, because he's 17. I mean, he's almost 18. He's almost completely legal, you know, so yeah.

I he's very self-sufficient. He doesn't really need someone to watch over him. I understand their net Netflix policies, not Canadian policies necessarily, but Netflix. So it's me and Alicia Silverstone and Jamila Jamil. I think that's how you pronounce it. Who's awesome. I just talked with him and got him. Steve Carr is directing it. And

it's fun. It's really sweet. It's adorable. You know, it's Christmassy. It's, it's that kind of vanilla Christmas movie. That's you go and you do. Yeah. I'm, I am ready for it. I love those movies. Yes. I said, as long as I don't have to take my shirt off, you know, dance on a pole or something. Cause a lot of these new Christmas movies are like hot frosty is one of them where they're, you know, the guy's like shirtless and

chiseled and he's, I don't know. I mean, you know, Chad, Michael Murray's in one where he's like a dancing in some sort of a tool belt with his shirt off. I'm like, I'm 48, man. Like this is not going to look, people will throw up if, if, if you're asked. Stop it. Stop it. You, you, I saw you posted something on your Instagram where you were shirtless.

Yeah, I was probably expressing sort of how I need to, I'm gone from an A cup to a B cup, you know, and I need support in my, in my. Like literal, yeah, support. Yes, exactly. You know, I'm not afraid to be naked on, but on my own terms. Okay. That's all right. So first off, Oliver, you know, our city right now.

I know. And the fires. How are you? How are your, how's your family? How are you? Good. Everyone's good. You know, my brother, my brother's house, not Wyatt, my other brother, Boston, his house went, he was, he was living, you know, in sort of that Tahitian terrace mobile home community that went up. Everyone else is okay. And, you know, at the end of the day, it's,

incredibly devastating. I mean, it's the city that I grew up in, the town, honestly, the Palisades, and it's just, it's gone. I mean, it is completely gone. And it's still surreal for me. I haven't gone and looked at it personally. And I think that's when it will even get even more real. But right now it's just,

unbelievably surreal at the same time. Thankful that everyone's safe. You know, they're just things, but feel for so many people. I, I can't tell you how many people I know who don't have homes. Like that's how close it all is. I mean, it's unbelievable. I it's pushing a hundred people. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just, it's crazy. It's just crazy.

And everyone wants to move out of town. And I'm trying to figure out air quality. I mean, you know, there's things to sort of figure out. There's a lot going on. You're not close, right? We were evacuated. Oh, you were? We were closer to the Eaton Fire. Oh, you were. That's right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Very scary. It was scary, you know. I got to say, though, and I'm only just speaking for...

just me personally and I was lucky enough that the house is still standing but I'm not really attached to things so much you know my family obviously like my possessions are kind of like me I mean I don't know I'm I have you like that before this yeah oh yeah yeah yeah for sure without a doubt you know it's like oh if something goes away or if something is lost or or

I'm like, oh, okay. I wear this bracelet that the Dalai Lama gave me when I was 19 years old, and it's been lost a thousand times, and it has come back to me in one way or another. And this is something that is a really prized possession of mine because he blessed it, and I met him in Dharamsala, and it was an incredible moment, and I was crying and feeling things, and I was 19 and trying to figure out my life out.

At the same time, when it goes, it just goes. I'm just like, okay. It's probably one of my most prized possessions. But I just kind of let it go. What are you going to do about it? So at the same time, I have yet to experience anything that is as devastating as obviously losing your entire home. But the feeling...

fear of losing my house. It was more of just getting everyone to a safe place, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Ditto. Yeah. But it was crazy. It is. It is crazy. It is crazy. So yeah. Don't even think about it. Honestly, like out of sight, out of mind, I'm like,

I was just saying in the intro that I was just on your podcast. If you guys haven't listened to it, you've got to listen to it because we had great talk. We talked about ghosts and cemeteries and all the emotions involved. It was a really good talk. But I have to ask you, since our conversation, have you looked in the mirror and said, I love you?

Remember, we talked about that. Yes. It's so funny because I did a podcast today and I do these little rants, you know, and other than what we did and it was all half of it was about that. It's funny you're even asking me. It was about looking in the mirror, getting up, saying I love you. You're the best getting and then and then, you know, saying.

saying this is going to be the greatest day. It's going to be the greatest day, even if it's not the greatest day, you know? So I was just talking about this. The answer is yes and no. Am I looking in the mirror or,

No, I don't like to look in the mirror generally. Why not? You're a beautiful man. Like, why wouldn't you want to look at yourself in the mirror? Just to say I love you, not to be like, whoa. I love you. But then you say I love you and all of a sudden you start to get critical, you know, and you're looking at, oh, my God, I'm getting old. And you see this and you see that. And then I'm puffy. And what about this eye? And how come this eye is higher than this eye? Yeah.

I get a little nuts. But I need to do that more often.

Yeah, you don't have to look in the mirror. You could just. It's still positive. I'm still a positive affirmations trying. You're doing it. Okay. Yes. That's good. That's all. That's growth right there. Yes, it is. It is growth. And, you know, this new experience with my son and having this moment, which to me is almost like a deathbed moment. You know, it's bucket list beyond like the work with your son. You've experienced it.

Us living in Toronto for six weeks in the same place. I mean, it's just very, very exciting to me. So I love that. I feel lucky. Definitely feel lucky, especially now. Very lucky. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

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You just have to shut up those voices of like, oh, look at my eye is lower than the other one. Like you, you got to just disallow it. Yes. No, it's true. It is true. We are highly critical of ourselves. Are you a journaler? Yes. Yes.

You do journal. I used to journal like a madman. And now it's every once in a while. But I try to do my, again, my gratitudes every day. And I think we talked about this. But the problem is my gratitudes, I do 10 of them and they seem to be the same every day. So now I'm trying to, I'm almost out of my head. I'm in my head now. Well, I've already done the ocean and I've done love for the kids. And I've done that a thousand times. Like, what else? You know, now I'm trying to sort of...

wrap my brain around like, okay, is there anything else that I'm grateful for? It can't be the same shit every day.

But yeah. But it can. Why not? It can. It can. I hear you. You get a little bored. Yeah. Yeah. With your journaling. You know, this year for, you know, New Year's resolution, right? We have an amazing New Year's Eve party every year in Colorado. And we invite a ton of people over and we tent it and we have music. And it's really fun. And we build this like 25 foot bonfire. And it's huge. I mean, it's massive and huge.

everyone's out there at new year's and you do the countdown and the idea is that you write your resolutions, you know, you have your resolutions, but you also have the things that you want to get rid of, you know, put them in the fire and you watch them go up and smoke. And it's just, it's very, it's ritualistic, you know? And I, every year I write sort of my, my resolutions in a journal since like 1998. And I went back and looked in my journals like this last year and

And every resolution, they're all the same. And they've been the same since 1998. I'm making no progress is what I'm trying to say. I don't understand it. It's the same shit. It's the same resolution. So this year I said, you know what? I'm not doing any resolutions. Okay. I'm just going to be free.

You know, I'm just going to be free of sort of trying to attach myself to things that I want to change and accomplish because it's been 25 years and I have the same resolutions. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's time to just let them go and give it up. Yeah. To the universe. As far as journaling goes, I was heavy, heavy into it. It's gotten me through a ton of stuff. So you still have all your old journals. Yeah. I do too. Yeah. When you go back and read them, are you like, wait.

Is who is this person? How could I have been in this at this point in my life? And maybe you think and I'm still at this point. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I, you know, I don't know if we talked about sort of my anxiety dealing with heavy anxiety back in my 20s and stuff. And, you know, that that meditation and journaling.

When I went through my first bout in my 20s is what got me through so much. And I would hike up to this spot and I had this rock that I would sit on and I would have a meditation and then just write. And I'd write poetry. I'd write what I was feeling or anything. And it definitely, it definitely was fun.

I needed that in order to sort of get through whatever I was getting through along with therapy and everything else. But, you know, my time involves getting my feelings out through the written word. And, you know, for me, it's much easier to express myself through writing than it is actual, you know, verbal communication because I feel strangely insecure being vulnerable in person and

But I'm very easily vulnerable with a pen and writing sort of my feelings, you know. What do you feel about like podcasting? Because you seem like you can get pretty real and honest. Yeah, that's the other thing. For sure. Without a doubt. Is that different? Like I was just talking about this to someone else. Like podcasting is a different way of.

You meet somebody, but you're not in person, but you have these great connections with them. But there's something that doesn't, you don't have that anxiety because I know you and I suffer both from anxiety. You don't have that anxious feeling of like being in person with them. No. Oh yeah. I mean, the minute you have like a microphone in front of your face or, or, you know, there's something about it. It's hard to even explain because I can honestly say that it's even opened up my relationship with my sister. Yeah.

Because there are certain things that I may have said to her, positive and negative, but I haven't been able to because you either don't want to rock the boat or you don't want to feel too vulnerable. But the minute the microphone goes up for some strange reason with Kate, I'm able to sort of express myself to her better.

I don't know why. It's this weird thing that overcomes me where I feel a confidence to say either, you know, I've always respected you and loved you and looked up to you, even though you're my little sister, which is not easy to say.

in person or it's in person, but without a microphone or, you know, I feel like you've been condescending to me at times because of whatever, you know, when that mic is there, it's easier to say it. If we push stop and we're not longer recording, I would be harder for me to express my. Yeah. You just stop talking. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Do you ever worry somebody's going to read your journals though?

No, honestly, because I don't have like deep, dark secrets in there. You know, it's more about my feelings and sort of what I'm going through. Nothing like I buried my friend in the backyard. Well, the funny thing is this journaling for me, you know, and I've always said this to myself, you know, I'm always journaling when I'm going through something.

I'm not journaling when things are good. So every entry has some sort of, you know, negative attachment to it or something I'm trying to work through. It's never like, you know, it was an incredible day today. I feel amazing. Life is great. Like who wants to journal about that shit? I know I've read my entries that are like that. I'm like, yeah, next. So bored with myself. I need the drama. Oh gosh. Yeah. Oh, for sure.

You know, I think that's the catharsis. But I would venture to say that, you know, writing all the positive things and the good things in your life is probably more beneficial than even getting rid of all the bad, you know. It's like what you said, going back to looking in the mirror. You know, we need those self-positive affirmations. So maybe I'll start writing more positive affirmations.

entries but you know what i love doing with stream of consciousness writing was one of my favorite things to do so fun yeah oh well you just do and don't pick up the pen and you just keep going and it could be complete horseshit but then all of a sudden things come out and i've read some of those back well i'm like oh my god i'm rarely impressed with myself but i'm like damn oliver like that was pretty good you got deep i got deep and not even knowing what i was doing you know

I'm going to try that again because I kind of have fallen in and out of the journaling thing too. And I do feel better when I do it. I feel like I've gotten the stuff off of my brain, out of my mind, off my chest in a really safe way. Mm-hmm.

But I, yeah, I, it's sort of like meditating too. Like you, you go in, you come off of it sometimes and you just need a little break. Oh my gosh. Well, the meditating is, is as far as time consumption is probably the easiest thing you can do in your day. Yet for some crazy reason, I, it's the hardest thing for me to do and sit down for 10 minutes. I don't, I don't, I have so much resistance to it.

And I have had moments in my life where meditation, again, was bringing me through a lot of stuff. And it's a practice, obviously. So once you practice, once you get through two weeks, like solid, you're in. Then it's like, oh, I got it. I want to do it. Like you have that craving. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, gosh. Because it feels incredible when you can like actually drop in. But once you let it go, it's just like, oh, I got to sit down for 10 minutes. And like, oh, boy.

Lord, what am I doing? It's so, so true. Speaking of the anxiety you used to journal, you resist meditating. Like what is it that you do on a daily, weekly basis to help you with your anxiety? I'm just aware of it. You know, when it rears its head, I'm just kind of aware of it. And I'm almost like a seasoned vet.

Meaning it doesn't scare me anymore like it used to scare me. You know, I know when I'm feeling it and I'm like, oh, shit, there it is. Okay. Now, why? Okay, I can try to assess why or I can just say, you know what, it doesn't matter. I'm feeling it right now and just accept it and let it, just feel it.

Yeah, that's something so relieving about just acknowledging something. Yeah, because we want to diagnose ourselves. Okay, wait a minute. What's going on? What would it would have? Okay, what happened in my day to day? Okay, maybe this isn't it's like, okay, yeah, you can do that. But is that really going to help you in the moment?

Or is it best to say, I don't know right now. Here's what I feel and let yourself feel it. And you're not going to die. Like back in the day when you thought you were literally going to like drop dead. Have a heart attack. Yeah. You know, that's not going to happen. You know, you are not your anxiety. You are feeling it, but this isn't who you are. And just to try to separate yourself from it. Oliver, we've learned so much. Yeah.

I say we. I feel like, you know. Exercise. Yes, exercise. Yes. Yes. So is that something that's getting you, helping you now? What are you exercising? I just love to run, you know, running and, you know, I'm doing a little. Wait, you run like outside? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm not like a crazy runner. I run like, you know, fast.

a few miles, you know, when I do my runs. That's impressive. You know, or I'm doing, I'm doing a little Pilates now. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have the socks too? I have the socks. I have the socks. And then for me, I,

It's also just about the anxiety. It's about just how it's health related to when, when, when you're waking up and you're, you're, you're getting great sleep and you're eating properly and you're working out and you're not drinking booze, you know, and you're not smoking cigarettes or doing whatever. I mean,

You just feel on top of the world. You know what I mean? It's true. It's huge. The minute I fall back into sort of that party, that party guy mode where I'm like, oh man. And then it exacerbates that anxiety. And then it gets harder and harder as you get older. Yes. Yes. So like,

rebound or the next day or feel good in any way. I know. So we all do, we all change so much. We have all these different chapters in our life. What would you say is your chapter right now? Like what era is Oliver Hudson in right now? This is a good question. I love this question because I've never really had to answer it, you know, because we do find ourselves in

in these moments and you have to sort of step back and again assess yourself like where am I right now? I feel like at almost the age of 50 that I am probably in the most creative space in my life, probably the most confident space in my life even though I definitely have my crazy insecurities.

I think as I get older, I just stop giving a fuck. You know what I mean? Stop caring as much. Stop trying to impress or...

feel like I'm less than when I'm speaking to executives or I'm pitching an idea. You know, I'm like, these are just human beings. I'm not going to do it by the book. I'm going to do it my way. You know, if I want to call the head of the studio, you know, I'm going to call, I'm going to call him. Oh, maybe you should go to the channels. Nah, who gives a shit? He's a human. These are human beings, you know, as far as being an actor,

Two, I just, I'm excited for what the second half of my life holds just because of the confidence level of the, again, the attitude of like, you know what, just go for it. What have you got to lose? What have you got to lose? Honestly, like that is, that is definitely sort of the period that I'm in. And my company, my production company is called Slow Burn.

You know, because that's what I am. And that's what I feel like I've always been is this kind of slow burn, you

What do you mean? Well, my sister hit it white hot, right? I mean, she got almost famous, nominated for Golden Globes, boom. My younger brother, Wyatt, worked hard, but bang, it takes off. Everything in my life has just been sort of slower paced, slower moving. I mean, not just career, like everything.

You know, even maturity wise. Do you think you were in your own way? Like you do. Do you think that was the reason you were a slow burner? Yeah, I do. I think part of it was that and part of it is my personality. You know, I mean, I feel like I'm a very talented person. I have a lot of like ambition. I just don't have drive.

You know, if that makes sense, like, oh, I'm going to do this. I know I can do this. And I'll probably win an Academy Award as a director because that's what I really want to do. And I know I can write and I start this. And then I just kind of like it peters off.

And I know exactly what you're talking about. Put fun and family in front of everything. You know, that's the other thing we talk about sort of that deathbed scenario where I am not going to remember awards and fame and any of that shit. I mean, at all, that does not define me in any way. I would rather take a trip with my family and pass on a movie that could advance my career, you know, rather than miss whatever those moments might hold.

That I will remember for the rest of my life. And that's the way I've operated. And I don't hate it. At the same time, I think that it has created this slower pace for me. But I think that's okay because look at you now. You're turning into...

white hot now. Like, I feel like you feel it in your bones. Like you have arrived, you know, for yourself. There's definitely energy there for me. There's a weird momentum. I don't know why I can't put my finger on it necessarily, but it just feels good. You know, it just feels good. And it's just kind of, you know, just kind of letting go, but working harder. Honestly, for me, it's work ethic. I have to work harder, you know, and that's my new phase.

That's the new sort of era that I want to move into, which is still have family as a priority. But, you know, work your ass off more, you know? Yeah, I saw that happen for me when I turned 50, 51. And I realized, like, as a woman in this industry, I was like, I...

I feel as if I might choose to have a shelf life. I might choose to get the hell out of town at some point because I just don't want it for myself. I haven't really enjoyed it, the fame and all of that of it. So I want to be able to leave town, get out at age 60. So I'm like, I got to do as much as I can while I can do it. Yeah. No, for sure. And there's so many different other things to experience, like even the podcast. Yeah.

It's been so fun. Yeah. You know, talking to people. You've had probably so much growth from doing the podcast. I know I have. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. And the people that you meet and the stories that you hear. And my favorite thing about doing podcasts is getting a guest you don't know much about. And you're kind of like poo-poo it in a way. You're like, oh, God. I mean, because we all have to fill it. There's a lot of episodes that have to get done. And you're like, oh, man, it's so-and-so. I don't even know. And then after an hour, you're like, wow.

That was amazing. That was incredible talking to this person who I didn't really know and maybe had a preconceived idea of. And then that all shifts, you know, and then doing the Drew Drew show, you know, going on there and being a part of that kind of world. You know, I'm leaving tomorrow to do another one.

that's been really, really fun as well. You know, that's a fun environment. It's fun. It's fun. And it's not dissimilar to what we're doing right now. It's just, it's just on, on campus talking. Yeah. Just being humans. So cool. Yeah. Yeah.

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Welcome to My Legacy. I'm Martin Luther King III, and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends, Mark and Craig Kilberger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives. Each week, we'll sit down with inspiring figures like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and Billy Porter.

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I'm confused. I don't know why I'm in jail. It's hard to understand what hope is when you're trapped in a cycle of addiction. Addiction took me to the darkest places. I had an AK-47 pointed at my head. But one night, a new door opened, and I made it into the rooms of recovery. The path would have roadblocks and detours, stalls and relapses. But when I was feeling the most lost, I found hope with community.

and I made my way back. This season, join me on my journey through addiction and recovery. A story told in 12 steps. Listen to Crems as part of the Michael Lura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I have to ask you, okay, because I know you have two sons. Yeah. Do you feel like there is a rise in sort of this...

masculine world right now with, you know, some certain podcasters, our government, there's a lot more masculinity coming. I'm just curious, like as a guy, as a dad of boys, how do you raise them to be decent human beings and have that level of understanding and educating them to be

you know, the right way to behave out there in the world. Yeah. I think that there's a few different, there's, there's, there are lessons that you teach and then there is just being who you are because at the end of the day, those lessons matter. But I feel like our kids are emulating us more than learning from us as far as specific lessons go. Yes. Yeah.

You can lecture them on certain, you know, ideas and certain things that you might believe at the same time, allowing them the space to have their own opinions and feelings. But at the end of the day, when you're living in a healthy family, they see you all the time and they're there are imprinted. You're imprinting upon them. Mm hmm.

Whether I'll just completely unconsciously, you know, consciously and unconsciously. As the boys get older, you get to see more of yourself in them, which is so interesting. You're like, wow, they, they were listening or they were taking on a lot of who, who I am. So I think that's a big, that's a big thing. At the same time, you know, you can only,

show them and tell them so much so much and and help them with so many things at some point they're gonna have to make their own decisions you know um as far as this sort of masculine world i think there's a way to be masculine but to also sort of be sensitive and thoughtful and vulnerable i mean vulnerability to me is masculine now you know i think it's switched

Whereas the soft man is not the strong man. And I couldn't disagree with that more, you know. And I think that my kids, at least hopefully they see me being like that because I'm no different with them than I am with anyone else.

And you watch them and how they deal with people and, you know, how they look you in the eye and they're polite and all of these things. And you watch that translate. And it's the most proud that you are when your kids, when you get praise on your kids, like, oh, man, your kids are so great. You're like, oh.

My work is done. Yes. It's the best feeling. I say that too, because my, sometimes my one, mostly one of my daughter's,

can be real hard at home, real hard on me specifically. And then I get these messages from her teachers or her friends' moms, and they're like, she's such a great girl. I'm like, really? Really? Yay! Why don't you come home with me and spend the day? I know. I'm always like, why don't you invite your friends over more often? Because you're a lot different when they're here. Yeah.

And then, you know, as far as the boy thing goes, I mean, again, I know a lot of their friends, a lot of them, you know, they all try to flex. They all try to be cool. They all try to feel masculine. You know what I mean? Do you think in that flexing, though, are we in danger of losing that –

the sort of respect for women and the chivalrous sort of mask. Cause like, I love a guy that opens the door for me. Of course. Yeah. But I'm not, I know I can open the door for myself. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, that's the thing is I, I hopefully am showing them that, you know what I mean? Then I, I, I, I do house shit. I did this. I'm with mom. I opened up the door. Like there's so much love, like, and we're very physical. Like I'm always on hugging Aaron and kissing. And then, you know, these are the things that hopefully they see and want to emulate. You know, I also think, but you know, you're dealing with primal beings as well. And boys, boys, you know, boys are sometimes crazy, you know?

and and watching boy my boys grew up versus my daughter and then my nephews who are young you know like boys and girls and some of these boys are like my nephews are crazy running around crazy crazy crazy shit you know so it's just about directing it and then you've got tiktok and social media which is feeding them all kinds of horse shit and that's what my kids like dad did you know that like

pyramids what am i you guys this is not true you know what i mean like quiet it because they're getting fed so much of this misinformation i'm like you need to learn to sift this shit out you know what i mean i tell them that i mean you guys are nuts go read something you know just scroll and believe everything that that's going on there wait do you read

Yeah, I like to read. I definitely try to. Again, that's the thing that I want to do more and more of. And I have 8,000 books by my bedside. Because every time I go into a bookstore, I buy a new book. What kind of books do you buy? Oh, gosh. Like self-help. I love self-help books. I have self-help. I've done all. I've done that. I just...

read a book that's like this rare it's sort of this rare sort of book it was uh it's called hard rain falls by an author that's kind of obscure uh but i heard it on take on on instagram and it's fucking amazing i i i tend to gravitate towards you know sort of human struggle strangely

adversity and maybe overcoming it or or not you know but just like tough times that in itself is sort of like self-help because yeah you're being you're so you're like familiar with those feelings that that character is going through and they learn something and you're like hey yeah that works for me yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so

Right now, I'm actually reading Jerry Weintraub's book, which is amazing. What's the title of it? Oh, gosh. It's his autobiography, and it's – God, I forget the exact name of it. But he's just such an amazing, interesting career, you know? Yeah.

for those of you who don't know jerry wantrop was like was he passed away was like a titan of industry as far as being a producer but also was in the music scene you know with bob dylan and i mean he was just an amazing man growing up in brooklyn the bronx and just coming out of nothing and

Yeah. Pretty cool story. I try to read. I just try to I try to I need to read more. I need to read more. Yeah. I heard recently that if you read 20 minutes a day, it helps sort of reset something in your brain. And it makes perfect sense because I'm sure you're familiar with like EMDR therapy where your eyes go back and forth. Have you done that?

Is it great? I was thinking about it. You feel ridiculous because you're just sitting there watching a light bar and keeping your focus on the lights. But there's something about the back and forth of your eyeballs that changes something connection-wise in your brain. And it really does open up some space in there. You feel that. Yeah.

Yes, definitely. So I heard that reading can have that same effect. So I've been trying to read 20 minutes a day. That's what they say. Anything. Anything. It doesn't matter. You can read anything. It's eyeballs back and forth. So it can be on a screen or like book or does it matter? Because I like I'm going to go with book because we got enough screen time.

No, I know. Shut it down. I need a book. My mom is all about the Kindle. She reads everything on a Kindle. I can't. I need like a physical... Oh, I can't. No, I love the physical book. And the pages and the smell. Yeah. Yeah. And going back to kids, here's the... Look, we've been very lenient parents as far as letting our kids experience what life is now. You know, obviously trying to...

you know, balance it all out because balance is everything. I'm never going to take them away from social media. Like this is the world that we live in. And this is just my own philosophies. Whereas a lot of my other friends sort of are very strict about things. And I've sometimes seen kids who are not allowed to experience anything, whether it be sugar at a young age, whether it be, you know, Tik TOK or whatever it is, they crave it. And it almost becomes an obsession because they can't have it.

If I ever saw that my kids were going off the deep end with anything, yes. But right now, everything seems to be okay. But reading is just gone. Kids don't fucking read anymore. And it's the most you do not...

light up your imagination more than when you read a book. I don't care what you watch. I don't care anything. I don't care about a movie, anything. When you get into a book and you are ensconced in those words, your imagination is firing. You're picturing it. You're wondering. You're feeling. I wish that that would come back. I wish kids would read more. I tried. I'm like, read a book. I'm like, what? I mean, it's not even in there.

And even school these days, they're not being made to read like we were made to read. No, they're reading on iPads. Yeah. Yeah. It's so different. I'm of the same mind as you, too. I think I probably appear very lenient as a parent.

But also, I'm so on top of it. But I do agree. Like, you've got to let them experience and figure out how to exist in this current world instead of holding on to the morals and values that we had or, like, what we spent our time doing when we were younger. Things are just different. And you need to make sure that your kids are able to thrive. Yeah.

with what they have right now. Yes. Yes. Without a doubt. And also understanding that it's not real and there are major pitfalls and, you know, don't believe everything that you see. You know what I'm saying? Like if you're curious about something you might see on TikTok, don't take it at face value. How about Google it, dig in a little bit, you know, maybe see if what you're reading is actually true or if it's just,

you know, complete misinformation and false, especially with AI, which I've completely resisted by the way. You haven't used AI. I need to, and I want to, and my sister like loves it. And, you know, I know writer friends who are like, dude, this is scary, but it's incredible. And, but I don't know, I have an aversion to it. You know, I feel like, does it feel like lazy? No, I feel weirdly scary. I just don't want to be a part of it. I don't know. I, I,

It's not lazy. It's more of just like, I don't want to touch it. I don't want to touch it. Yeah, because once you open that box. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's kind of hard to resist. Yeah, no, I know. I'm sure it's incredible. I know. My kids use it, and also one of their boyfriends uses it, and he just sits and talks to it, and it says like the most – create a picture of –

wearing a muumuu sipping on a 7-Eleven Slurpee on an iceberg. And then two seconds later, it will show you that. I know. I think I'm scared. That's scary. And also, use your time for something productive, please. What value is that? It's so scary, I know. But I did download the chat GPT app and I was like, all right, let me mess around with it on my app.

It's pretty incredible. I mean, it's pretty, it's pretty amazing. I mean, you can just say, you know, from a creative standpoint too. I mean, like I'm stuck, you know, I need help, help get me out of this writer's block. I need this, this, this, and that. Yeah. He has come up, you know, it is very helpful in that respect, but also very scary. Oh yeah. No, I know. Did you ever see that movie WALL-E?

Oh, yeah. I always say this. It's funny. You do? Oh, this is my fucking... I've been saying this for years. I said that is the most prophetic movie in the last 50 years. And nobody's seen it. People don't watch that movie. I don't know why. That's so funny you say that. I always say that. I said that's the most geniusly prophetic movie. This is what our society is based on. And you look around and you see it happening. No, I know. I tell my kids all the time, I'm like, oh my God, I feel like I'm living in Wally World. Yeah. Yeah.

No, I know. All the trash is on the earth and we all have to go to some man-made place in the sky. And everyone's like, sit there and stare at our screens. They're the screens and fucking order room service or whatever they, you know, like postmates. It's crazy. It's just, it's the lazy culture. And when my kids are here in the house doing, and they're not moving, I'm like,

I'm like, out. I literally kicked him outside. I'm like, outside. Get outside. But dad, I'm like, I don't care. I said, go get arrested. Go get in trouble. Honestly, I don't even care. I would rather a police officer bring you home right now. Like, you've got to get outside. No, that's good. I'm

comes in, you know, I'm going to tell them that tonight, you guys go get arrested. Got some sound parenting advice from my friend. I have all kinds of weird things. I say that people like what you said that you say that to your kids, like another one real quick is, you know, I, I would rather my kids cheat in school than not try at all.

Like I've literally said this, I said, I would rather you cheat than just say, I'm not going to do the assignment. If you're cheating, you're actively trying to get by. You're actively trying to get it in. You know what I mean? You're just saying like, I don't give a shit.

That is that is extremely complacent. I'm not I'm not saying cheating is where I want you to go, but I would that at least says you're trying. You're doing something. You're trying to cheat. You're trying. It's like, oh, shit, I didn't get this in. What's your homework? Calling a friend. What is this? Rather than being like, I don't I don't I don't care.

Yeah. So true. So true. You said that to your kids? Yeah. You should write a book of your parenting tips and tricks. These are good. No, it's called Fear and Bribery. And it's like a pamphlet. A pamphlet. That's all you got. Parenting pamphlet. Yeah. Yeah.

Welcome to My Legacy. I'm Martin Luther King III, and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends, Mark and Craig Kilberger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives. Each week, we'll sit down with inspiring figures like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and Billy Porter.

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Full circle. Every Wednesday, we're catching you up on what's going on in women's basketball. And not just in the WNBA, but with Athletes Unlimited, Unrivaled, and college basketball. We've got you with analysis, inside stories, and a little bit of tea. I know you guys have seen a lot of former and current basketball players telling their stories from their point of view. And I just think it's time for the girlies to tap in. We want to share all of the women's basketball stories that you won't see anywhere else.

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Responsible and driven, and wild and out of control. My head is pounding. I'm confused. I don't know why I'm in jail. It's hard to understand what hope is when you're trapped in a cycle of addiction. Addiction took me to the darkest places. I had an AK-47 pointed at my head. But one night, a new door opened, and I made it into the rooms of recovery.

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You were kind of in the same boat as my husband, surrounded by strong women. Except for your two boys, it sounds like. You have been raised by strong women. Yeah, yeah. What is the biggest...

I mean, if you can even narrow it down to like one, what's the biggest lesson that you have learned from being around these amazing women? Your wife, your mom, your sister. Yeah, my wife, mom, Kate, you know. Well, I have such respect. First of all, my mother. I mean, there's so much pride. I mean, when we look at how she came up in this business, in a truly a man's world and being one of the first female producers to have like a real studio deal and

And having to go into boardrooms with a bunch of dudes and, and, and saying the things that she said and having to stand up for herself. I mean, she has incredible stories, you know, she's a trailblazer. Oh, she, for sure. I mean, super good trail, big time trailblazer. And there's a lot of pride there for me, you know, a lot, a lot, just that iconic, that iconic female, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

And then I think obviously it's rubbed off on sort of what I want, you know, what I wanted in a woman and a partner, no doubt, you know, someone who's unafraid, someone who has their own life, you know, will kick me in the ass when I need to get kicked in the ass. You know, there's a mutual respect and honestly, you know,

There's no codependency. You know, I like that. I don't want anyone having to rely on me. I don't want to have to rely on anyone else. Emotionally, of course, you know what I'm saying? And then you look at Kate and, you know, I look up to her tremendously in the sense of her no fear attitude.

you know, like she just had no fear. She's unafraid. She doesn't care if she offends along the way because it's not intentional. She's just a badass woman who's going to sort of get what she wants. And, and again, you know, just fearless. Yeah. Both role models of mine. Yeah. So yeah. And then my daughter, you know, and then, and then that all translates to my daughter, you know, and just making sure that,

She knows that she's in control. You know what I mean? You're going to like boys and they're going to like you back, but you, you wear the pants. Like you're in. You call the shots. Like, yeah, you call the shots because you can, you know? And it's just sort of bled into me in the way that I look at the world, the way that I parent, you know, even my boys, even the way that I parent my boys, you know,

And how they've seen strong women and Wilder's girlfriend right now of two years, how awesome she is and how badass she is. Love her. She's the greatest. She'll just say whatever she thinks. It's just so rad. That's such a good thing for women. All this talk about being strong. When's the last time you cried?

You've got to cry all the time. Cry all the time. Did you cry at the dentist today? Very emotional person. No, no, I didn't cry at the dentist. I, you know, when was I, oh, when was I just losing it? Oh my gosh. Sometimes you just got to release it. Oh, just recently. I was just a complete mess. I forgot. Oh God, I wish I could remember. And I called Erin because she wasn't with me. Oh, I was in Colorado. Colorado.

Oh, and I was just bawling. I don't know what was going on. You know, I was calling her like, I don't know why I'm so sad. Like, I'm just like losing it, you know, over weird things. Triumph is big for me too. Overcoming adversity is huge. Like when I see someone who has, you know, fallen to the bottom, but has worked their ass off to sort of get back to where they were, or, you know, even if it's like a personal victory, you know,

That kills me every time. And then, of course, father-son related, I'm done. At least you know where you need to stay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I cry. I'm a crier. Yeah, because people think guys don't cry. Is that still a thing? Is that?

I think it's getting better again. I think that's where like sort of guys cry. That's where the old, it's okay to be a vulnerable dude now. You're allowing dudes to cry. I never thought of it as a thing, you know, even growing up.

Yeah, I would imagine in the environment. Like Kurt, you know what I mean? Yeah. But you also had those women around you to bring out that sort of emotion. Oh, my gosh. Oh, yes. Yes. There's nothing better than being in touch with your emotional being and being confident to let it come out if it needs to. No, I know. I know. And I need...

It's funny because I told you I went to this place called the Hoffman Institute, Hoffman Process. And you come out of that place realizing the potential that you have as a human being. When did you go there? Oh, man. Eight years ago now. Did you chop wood?

I chopped wood. Yeah, I chopped wood. I did. I mean, all of it. I mean, it was extremely intensive. Did you go to? No, I want to. Since you mentioned it when I was on your pod. It's incredible. I was intrigued and I looked it up and I'm like, hey, it looks like a good time. And I've never cried so much in my life before.

with being at the Hoffman process. I mean, it was a breakdown. But it allowed me to sort of realize the potential of me as a human, as a man, as a husband, as everything. And then, you know, shit wanes. It wanes. You know, all this to say that I want to get back to being okay.

With my emotions. You know what I mean? Yeah. I've been called emotional. And I've always felt like that's such a derogatory sort of judgy term, especially when it came from the men in my life. But for the longest time, I'm like, I'm not emotional. I'm emotion full. And there's nothing wrong with that. Oh, yeah. Oh, 100%.

Yeah. Emotional seems derogatory when it's said like that, like you're so emotional. Some people just can't handle emotion full people. Yeah. That's okay. Yeah. Well, there's also to be fair to whatever the other side of that is, there are people probably who need to rein it in, you know, I mean, there was, there was a woman who was in my Hoffman class and, um,

She was just almost so open where she was, everything was filled with emotion and just the simplest things. And I went to my small group teacher, his name was Ed. And I'm like, Ed,

Let me ask a question. I know I'm sort of having trouble just letting go, but you know, so-and-so, would you say that she needs to kind of get it together? You're like, took your teacher to the side. I did. I did. And just to understand, try to understand like there is the other side of the spectrum too. And he goes a hundred percent people come in like, Oh, it's like so much. And you're like, all right.

It's time to bring that in. Maybe you've used that as a crutch your whole life. That's probably not going to get you where you want to go. But yeah, the more emotional, the better. I love talking to you. I think you're amazing. Oh, thanks. I love what's happening for you in your life.

In your family's life? Like, is this a good time? It is. I think it's a good time. I think it's a good time. It's exciting. I have to ask you a question before I let you go, though. Go. What was your last I choose me moment? This is a good question. When's the last time you said, I'm going to do this for myself? I choose. Okay. This is great because I think there are little things. I think you have to choose yourself at times, right?

Many times in the day, little things. I really do. I'm going to take this moment for myself. They're the big ones, but I think every day you have to choose yourself. Even if you have kids, even if you're busy, even if you're in a workplace, there are the moments where you're choosing you. Every day you have to find that. I think my big choose me moment was probably in November. I go on these big fishing trips.

10 days, I'm out to sea, you can barely get a hold of me and leave out of San Diego. I'm on a boat, don't get off the boat and you're in the middle of the ocean just catching tuna with 28 people, random people who now I know after being on this specific trip.

And again, that Aaron's amazing and she knows it's a passion of mine, but you know, I'm choosing that this is something that I need to do. It's personal. I love it. It's cleansing. It's the most, as cathartic as you can get in the middle of the ocean, doing what I love to do and just separating, you know? So that was my last like big choose me moment. And I'm gone for 10 plus days. And it's, it's, it's a long time to be away from the family when I'm not working.

And, you know, I do it all my life. But it fills you up. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, 100%. And then she has hers, too. You know, she's big on her friends. And she goes to sleepovers, you know, for two or three nights. And I'm with the kids. Or, you know, she just did a whole trip to New York with all of her girlfriends for four nights, you know. And, you know, I think...

relating it to relationships, you have to let your partner have those choose me moments whenever the hell they want. I've learned that kind of the hard way. I used to be like, I felt left out. I don't know if that's jealousy. I felt I would feel left out. I would feel like unincluded. I had all those very unhelpful feelings. And then something just sort of changed where I was like,

okay, you are your own person. You have your own needs and I have my own needs and there's nothing wrong with each of us having the things that, you know, fill us up and they don't, they're not always going to be the same things. Of course. Yeah. We're different people.

Yeah. One pillar, that codependency, that one, if you're going to hold up a big stone, you know, slab, one pillar, right? There's going to be affected. The wind might blow. That shit is much easier. It's easier to tip. And that's the codependency. If you've got two, that shit is going to stand strong. You know what I mean? Whether that's kid, family, relationship, whatever it is.

You know, that's why you need to have separate lives. You need to have independent relationships, independent of each other. It gets way too messy. And I've seen it so much with friends or it's like, dude, what is up? You know, like you need to have your own shit. I mean, it's so important and refreshing and, and, you know, it's energizing, you know, it's energizing. Well, I love it that you take your fishing trips.

I saw you holding a fish that was like as big as you. Yeah. What do you do with that fish? Like, I'm curious. Do you eat it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Chop it all up. And yeah. Yeah. They put it underneath the boat, you know, which has a cooling system and then you're out for 10 days and then they, they,

When you get back to land, there's a fish processor and you have it all processed and cut and frozen all beautifully. And then you take it home and you've got hundreds of pounds of fish. And then I like to can a lot of the stuff. You know, you jar it with olive oil and rosemary or garlic or different spices. And so now you've got tuna, yellowfin tuna and whatever else you're catching, you know, that is preserved in these amazing jars, these mason jars.

So, yeah, it's it's there's the whole process to it is fun. And I have a boat. I love it. I love it. I fish my own boat. You're a fisherman. I'm a fisherman. I'm a fisherman. Yeah, that's right. Fisherman now with it, with a tooth, with a tooth. Thank God. Nothing worse than a toothless fisherman. I don't know. Or is there anything? Is there? I don't know, because that seems to work. You know what I'm saying? I mean, yeah. Yeah.

You're a good time, Oliver. Good luck on your movie with your son. That's so exciting. You're going to have a great time. You're going to bond. It's going to be amazing. Yeah. Good stuff. Can't wait. Be well. I will. Thank you so much. Don't eat any toffee or anything. No, no. I know. That's what he said. He's like, do not eat anything hard. Don't eat anything sticky. Yeah. We're old now. We can only eat like mushy foods. Oh, everything's falling out of my hand.

Everything through a straw. Yeah. Good times. Okay. Have fun with that. Okay. Later. Bye. Bye.

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