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Let’s talk situationships

2022/12/19
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Lyss在播客中讨论了situationship的定义、利弊以及如何判断一段situationship是否适合自己。她分享了自己的亲身经历,说明situationship可能带来的困惑、焦虑和痛苦,以及如何通过有效的沟通来解决问题。她强调,在一段关系中,个人的幸福感至关重要,如果situationship影响了你的幸福感,那么就应该重新考虑这段关系。她还指出,situationship也可能带来积极的方面,例如自我成长和探索,但前提是你对这段关系没有过高的期望,并且能够保持清晰的边界。总而言之,Lyss建议听众要根据自身情况和需求来判断situationship是否适合自己,并勇于表达自己的需求和感受,维护自身的幸福和价值。 Lyss在播客中深入探讨了situationship的复杂性,并分享了她在不同situationship中的经验教训。她指出,女性往往更容易在亲密关系中产生情感依恋,即使最初只想保持轻松的关系,也可能随着时间的推移而改变想法。她强调,在situationship中,清晰的沟通至关重要,如果对方不愿意承诺,或者让你感到困惑和焦虑,那么就应该结束这段关系。她鼓励听众要珍爱自己,不要为了迎合他人而牺牲自己的幸福。Lyss还分享了一些应对situationship的实用建议,例如:明确表达自己的需求,设定清晰的边界,以及在关系中保持独立性和自我价值感。她认为,经历situationship虽然可能带来痛苦,但也能够帮助人们更好地了解自己,并为未来的健康关系奠定基础。

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This chapter defines what a situationship is and explores why people might choose to stay in them, discussing the lack of formal commitment and the emotional confusion it can cause.

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Welcome to date yourself instead. Date yourself instead? What does it mean to date yourself instead? I'm just gonna learn how to love myself and that's it.

Okay, so on today's episode, I wanted to talk about a very highly requested topic, situationships. Truthfully, we've all been there and we've all experienced a situationship at one point or another. And a situationship, just to clarify for those of you who don't know the actual definition, I looked this up on Google for you guys. It is a romantic or sexual relationship that is not considered to be formal or established.

This is the type of relationship where you're not really sure where you stand with this person as far as if you're in really any sort of commitment or not.

This is the type of situation where you end up driving yourself into the craziest version of you because you're always left confused and with 1 million questions and you're always wondering what the other person is fucking thinking because you really like them and you're having a good time with them and everything seems amazing, but you really just don't know where you stand in their mind. And there's not that clear, defined nature of the relationship.

There is no right or wrong to have a situationship. A situationship doesn't have to be a good thing or a bad thing. It can be a very neutral thing. If you're having fun and you're in a specific phase of your life where maybe you just got out of a relationship and you meet someone new, but you're not ready to commit to anyone, you're just enjoying having a casual fling with someone and there's no defined rules and you're just living your best life, you're not going to have a good time.

That's totally fine and that's totally cool and like I've gone through phases like this so I totally get it. If you're in a phase of your life where you just really don't give a fuck and you're totally okay with having this person go do their own thing and you do your thing, then that's great and good for you and keep doing what you're doing.

My number one rule in life is as long as you are happy and you feel content with where you're at and you're really comfortable with where you are in your life in whatever situation you decide to be in, that's all that truly matters. But if you're having a full-blown anxiety attack and a panic attack every fucking day because you want to know where you stand with someone...

I would really reconsider being in a situationship because it sounds like you might want something more or you don't want to be left in the unknown all the time and you want clear answers in a clear direction, which is totally fair and understandable also. So when people DM me and ask me, should I be in a situationship? Like, are situationships okay? Can it turn into something more?

The truth is every situation is totally different and I cannot give you a clear answer because every person and every situation is totally unique and I'm not going to generalize your relationship or, you know, simple it down because I don't really know the other person. I don't know you and I don't want to give my input based on solely just what I've been through, but I can. And if you want to hear it, this is why I'm making this podcast episode. So here we go.

This applies to both men and women. I just want to make that clear. I know there are some men listening to my podcast too. I have the analytics of the demographics of like who actually listens to the podcast and I believe it's 95% women, but there are 5% men listening to the podcast too. So I'm going to just include everyone. I'm not going to leave anyone out of this. Both men and women are capable of wanting something casual.

As I've mentioned earlier, I've been in phases of my life where I didn't want a serious relationship. I just wanted to have fun and not think too much about anything. But after you get really intimate with someone, you start to get to know them. You start spending more time with them.

It's just really hard not to catch some sort of emotional feeling towards this person because you start opening up to them. You start hanging out more. You start texting them a lot more. You start oversharing. You start giving them details about your day. You grab dinner with them. And then it starts to evolve into something a little bit more than you expected, right?

And then you're like, fuck, I didn't mean to catch feelings for this person. And I meant for it to be casual. And I wanted something casual before I really got to know them. But here we are. And as a woman, we tend to be more emotional by nature and more nurturing by nature. There are very emotional men out there too. Not going to discredit that. But I just think in general, women are more emotional by nature and it's easier for us to get attached.

So there's been times where I did want nothing at all and I really just wanted something casual. And then it evolved. I started to get to know the guy I was seeing. A month went by, two months went by, and then I was like...

shit, I actually really like you. And I don't really know what to do now because I told you I was fine with doing this casual thing and I was fine with being in a situationship with you. But now I'm not really sure if I'm fine with it because I think I would get a little jealous if you were talking to a bunch of other girls. You can go into something wanting nothing and then

As time passes, you start to change your mind. And that's okay too, because that's totally human. And we have emotions and we have feelings and things like this happen all the time. There was one time I...

Turned my situation ship into a full-blown committed relationship after separating three or four times with this person and he wanted nothing to do with me I don't even think he Had any plans to be in any sort of serious relationship at all whatsoever I think he said his last relationship was like five years prior to when we had met and he just didn't Expect or really want anything going into?

hanging out with me, but he really liked me. I could tell he did really like me and he was pursuing me, but he kind of made it clear, like, this is not what you think it is. It's not a serious thing. And I was in a place in my life where I was willing to accept that and not really care too much. So I was like, all right, whatever. We could just hook up and that's it.

But over time, as I mentioned, things can shift and change and you can start to develop feelings. And then you have to communicate that at some point because then you'll lose your mind and go insane. And it's only so long before you break. So after like a month or two, I...

I basically said to him, I'm completely done. I don't want anything to do with this anymore because you're throwing my feelings around. You're confusing me 24-7. It's affecting me and my work and my day-to-day schedule because I'm thinking about this all the time. We've been hooking up for months and I cannot do this anymore. And there was a lot of back and forth and a lot of ups and downs in that situation because

And it drove me insane. And I remember there were a lot of tears. There was a lot of pain involved. And I put myself and my body through a lot of unnecessary stress because this guy did not know where he stood with me and he wasn't willing to be in a relationship with me. And eventually I just woke up one morning and I decided to let it all go because I was just sick and tired of feeling sick and tired. You know that expression, like I'm sick and tired of feeling...

Sick and tired. Well, that's exactly what happened. I was just done. I woke up one morning and I was like, fuck this. I don't want to deal with this anymore because it's ruining my peace and my happiness and I'm a good person. And if it's not him, it'll be someone else. That's the mentality you have to have if someone doesn't want to be with you because you need to place yourself on a fucking high ass pedestal and realize that you're worth so much more if someone's not giving you shit. So

I just woke up one morning and I was like, all right, bye, you're done. And a few weeks later, he ended up communicating with me and we discussed everything and we met up in person and we ended up in a committed relationship after that. That being said, was it worth it? Actually, yes, I do believe all the ups and downs were worth it, but...

At this point in my life, this was like several years ago, keep in mind. At this point in my life, because I've learned to love and value myself and deepen the bond with myself, I would never tolerate the type of behavior I dealt with back then with him now. Was it still worth it? And was it worth the experience because I learned so much and I grew from it? Yes. We still didn't end up working out. I'm not with this person today.

I don't regret a thing though, because it did teach me so much and my life would not be the same if I hadn't gone through all of that. But all the red flags I saw in the beginning still played out throughout the entire relationship. And I just feel like I'm in such a different place in my life now where the only reason I can't tolerate a situationship is because I'm

At some point, something will shift and someone will end up catching feelings for the other person. And I just want to avoid that drama and the tears at this point in my life. I'm almost 30 years old and I don't have time for ups and downs and games. It's just not necessary. I just go into dating now knowing that I want someone who knows what they want because I know what I want. I'm looking for a serious thing and someone who's going to value me the way that I deserve to be valued.

I don't want someone to think that they could just have me when they want me and then entertain a million other things when they're not with me. This is a personal preference because I've already been through these situationship things. So if you're much younger than me and you're going through a situationship and you're having a good time, you don't have to feel pressured to like jump out of it just because I'm saying that I don't want something. This is just me and my experience and where I'm at in my life.

I really believe you do need to go through those type of relationships in order to filter out what it is that you want and what you don't want. Those type of relationships taught me so much about myself and what I was willing to tolerate and what I wasn't. They also helped me know how to define clear boundaries for myself and also learn how to love myself a little deeper.

You have to go through shitty relationships in order to evolve and change and grow as a person and really know how to set boundaries for yourself and love yourself to the absolute fullest. I really believe that.

Maybe that's just my life experience and maybe this is just the path I'm on in this lifetime and other people don't agree with what I just said. But I really believe relationships and going through different experiences that are maybe not the healthiest and not the best actually eventually help you grow and change so much that it ends up being worth it in the long run. Sometimes you just have to go through shit in order to really

Know what you deserve. Like to know what you deserve, you need to go through hard times and hard situations sometimes, including situationships. Now, one of the biggest questions I always get in my DMs is, should I be involved in a situationship with this guy? He told me he wanted a casual fling and that he's not looking for anything serious, but we go on dates all the time. We really like each other. We text all the time. We really vibe and everything feels really good.

So am I doing something wrong by participating in this? Can it lead to something more? Is it really bad that I'm involved with him? Like I really want it to turn into something more. Am I wasting my time? The truth is this is a case by case thing. I've been involved in several situationships and most of them didn't end up working out when the guy was clear about what he wanted and he said he didn't want anything serious. I'll just leave that on the table. If he's

saying to you that he doesn't want anything serious and he doesn't want to commit to you and he's not interested in anything long-term, he's telling you the truth. There's no reason for him to lie about that. He's being clear about where his intentions are. So you kind of have your answer right there. Can his answer change? Can he change his mind?

I'm sure it's happened before. I'm sure there have been situations where guys have wanted nothing and then they developed feelings and eventually turned into something. But sometimes I think it's really what they're saying is what they're actually feeling. I don't think anyone has any reason to sugarcoat it and lie to you if they want something casual. And you

You can't change someone's mind unless they really want to change for themselves. And that's another big thing that I've taken away from being in situationships. It's like you cannot change someone. They have to be willing to change for themselves and actually want to be with you out of the bottom of their heart. You can't force someone to love you and be obsessed with you and deeply committed to you. That's just not how it works.

So if you're looking for someone to commit to you and you're in a situationship with them right now, you just have to understand that you can't have any expectations on them if they have communicated to you that they don't want anything serious. Now, if they've lied to you and basically saying, I...

You know, I really want to see where things go and it's possible we could be together one day. If they're like dangling false hope in front of your face and telling you that it's a maybe, that's also a no. Even though that's really hard to hear, them being confused and not sure where they stand is a no in the moment. Does it mean it'll never change? No, of course it can change. Of course, anything can shift and change and evolve over time.

But just don't place any expectations on this person because they're not giving you a clear fucking yes. And I believe that you deserve a clear fucking yes. So if they're not giving you that yes right now, take it as a not right now or a no because you don't want to be wrapped up in someone else's confusion. You don't want to be wrapped up in someone else's mind that can't be made up.

That's just not healthy for you. And honestly, I've been in this situation before where I wrapped myself up in someone else's confusion and they were always giving me back and forth answers and they were always making me question the relationship. And they had expressed that they wanted something casual in the beginning, but after three months of dating, I wanted something more. And when I communicated that to him, he said nothing.

possibly, let's see where it goes. And in my head, because I had never really experienced this dynamic before, I thought that was a maybe and a genuine maybe.

So I spent the next four months of my life still hanging on to this situation ship. And we would go to dinner together. We would go to breakfast together. He would sleep over my apartment. I would sleep over his apartment. We would go to workout classes together. Okay. This man asked me to work out with him. So I was under the impression that it was really going somewhere. And I really genuinely liked him. Was I in love with him? No, I wasn't.

Was I thinking we were going to get married one day? I don't think so. I wasn't thinking that far ahead, but I just really liked him and I enjoyed our company together and I was looking to date him more seriously and exclusively.

And he just wasn't willing to give me a clear fucking yes. No matter what I said, no matter which way I worded it, I tried not to be annoying about it because I wanted to give him his space and I was respecting his boundaries, but he wasn't respecting me at all. And I was just taking his feelings into consideration all the time being like, oh, well, I don't want to step on his toes and pressure him. And he seems like he's confused. So maybe I'll hold off on asking him, but like, fuck that.

I just didn't realize that I deserved so much more at the time. So I was waiting on his answers 24 seven for months. And it wasn't like he was treating me really badly or anything like that, but he just wasn't willing to commit and wasn't willing to fully open his heart and say, you know what? Like, let's do this thing. He never said that to me. What he said was, we'll see where it goes. That was his famous line. So I waited and I waited and I waited and I

Nothing really happened. Actually, maybe I'll get into this in a completely different episode because the story time will take forever. But it ended pretty messy to be completely transparent because...

I bumped into him with someone else and it just ended up falling apart. But I can save that story for another time because I don't want to go too off topic here. My point is, if you're involved in a situationship and you really want something more out of it and you really like this person, it is so important to communicate this and what exactly you're looking for. And you need to get super clear on what it is.

If you really, really want to be with this person and you want to be in a more serious situation with them, but you're stuck in this like situationship dynamic, the sooner the better it is that you communicate this.

and tell them that you're looking for something serious. You don't want to be wasting your time for another six months or a year or two years if it's not really going anywhere. Because one, you could be blocking yourself from finding true love and a really healthy romantic relationship if you're still stuck with this person that's not giving you anything. And two, nothing will fuck up what's actually truly meant for you. And I always say this quote because it's so fucking true.

If you express to someone how you genuinely feel about them and you tell them, you know, I really want a serious situation with you and they're not willing to reciprocate that, you have a clear answer right there. And that's a blessing because you're able to now define what it is that you're looking for

You have now defined where they stand and you can walk away knowing that that situation wasn't going to end up in a good place anyway because that person wasn't going to be able to give you what you deserve anyway. So you're saving yourself a lot of time and a lot of energy and a lot of unnecessary drama and stress by just communicating what it is that you want and making it clear.

That is how you get to your end goal and end up with someone in a healthy relationship and you end up in a healthy situation because you've defined what you wanted and you're telling the universe, this is what I'm looking for. And if you tell this person and they're not on the same page as you, in the moment, can it suck and can it hurt if they don't reciprocate it and they don't agree with you and they don't want that? Yes, of course it's going to fucking suck. Of course it's going to sting and it might hurt and you might cry for a few weeks and

or a few months, you might be really upset. But I promise you, if they're not willing to commit now and you go your separate ways and they don't come back a few weeks later and say, listen, I needed that time to think, but I need to be with you.

If they don't end up coming back and reciprocating, they did you a favor. Trust me, they did you a fucking favor because you want someone that wants you. Another one of my favorite quotes that me and my friend were talking about at dinner the other night is, go where you are wanted. Go where you are wanted. So if someone doesn't want you the way that you want them, why are you still forcing it and running towards them at full speed? That makes no sense.

You deserve someone who's running at you the same way you're running at them and you come together and you have a beautiful and amazing relationship. And that exists and that is out there and I could promise you that.

Because as many shitty things as I've been through, I've also had really good relationship experiences also. I've also fallen in love several times in my life. So I know that that love exists out there. And when you find it, it's the best fucking feeling in the world. So if you feel like total shit right now and you're in a situation ship and you're waiting on someone's answers and it's unclear and it's messy, it's

and you can't be your true self around them, and you just don't know where you stand, I promise you there is a better situation out there for you. Like 100%. And you deserve that. So don't lower your standards for this person who can't give you what you need or isn't meeting your needs. And if they don't want to be with you, if you communicate where you stand, it's okay. Because there will be someone who will meet you where you stand. I promise you that.

Now I'm going to read off some things I found on the internet. This is from womenshealth.com. There are a pros and cons list for situation ships on this website. So I thought I would just share some of the things that I was reading.

One of the pros of being in a situationship, because I like to look at things also from a positive light. It doesn't always have to be negative. If you're going through a situationship thing right now, or you've experienced one before, you could always shed a positive light on shitty situations, okay? If you're struggling right now, here are some of the pros why I believe that situationships, they're not always a bad thing. They're not always a toxic thing. I kind of mentioned this before, but...

And situationships can be an opportunity for self-growth, okay? If you're trying to explore dating and relationships and you just want to learn more about yourself, you want to learn more about self-love, you want to learn more about who you are as a person, what you're looking for, what your needs are, and you're not really putting pressure on it and you don't have any expectations on it, be in a situationship then. If you want to learn something from this person and you don't plan on getting married to this person, be in a situationship then.

Be in a situationship that's totally acceptable and fine. And a lot of people need to go through these things in order to evolve and grow. And I've been there and I've been through this where there was one time where I was getting out of a serious relationship and I was dating this person for years where

And I fell into a situationship shortly after. And that situationship taught me so much about myself because it opened up a new version of myself that I never even expected. And it just made me more carefree and more fun and more excited about life in a totally different way that I had never experienced before. It's

Did it end up working out? No, it was not something that I saw as a long-term situation, but I really feel like I needed that experience in order to grow as a human being. So if that's something you're looking for at this point in your life, go for it, full support of that. And if people are judging you and saying, oh, like, is he going to commit to you? If you have people around you kind of like,

asking questions about your relationship situation and they're like, why isn't he committing to you? But you're happy and you're genuinely happy and you have no complaints, then don't listen to them. Okay. Some people really are okay with having casual things and I get that. But on the other hand, if you are in need of consistency and support and emotional depth, I don't recommend being in a situationship for that long because

You can try it out if you wish. Obviously, as I said, we all need experiences in life to grow and evolve as people. But if you are the type of person who needs consistency and emotional love and support and you like romance and you like having a stable, committed partner by your side, I don't think situationships are for you. And...

if you're not happy and you're constantly stressed and you feel imbalanced internally and you feel like your fucking chakras are not aligned because of someone else it's probably not the best situation to continue

And I don't know, maybe what I'm saying right now is obvious advice, but I was reading this on this website about the pros and cons. And I was like, this puts it in really organized, clear terms. And I thought it would be helpful just to share. One of the other pros on this website is saying that a situationship allows for intimacy without commitment. I mean, yes, but...

I'm the type of person who, if I get intimate with someone, there is probably feelings involved. Actually, not all the time. Sometimes I've been intimate with people and we just weren't compatible. And I was like, all right, ew, I'm grossed out. And I got the ick and I ran. But there has been multiple situations where I was intimate with someone and then you feel like you're closer to them and it makes it harder to keep it casual because you're very intimate with this person. Like intimacy is,

leads to emotional things. Like I don't know how people keep up casual sex for so long unless they really just don't give a shit about each other at all and they're not really attracted to each other. It's really hard to maintain something casual once you become super intimate. This is my opinion. This is my podcast. So I'm just speaking from how I feel really. But like

I just know a lot of my friends too, once they start getting intimate with someone and it's good, let's just say the sex is really good and they're going on dates with this person, it's really hard to like pull yourself out once all that starts to happen and unfold because we're just emotional people. Women thrive off of intimacy and emotional connection. So like...

It's kind of hard to keep those boundaries. But yes, technically, you could look at it in a positive light. A situationship allows for intimacy without commitment. Okay, great.

One of the cons it says is everything feels so ambiguous and it's frustrating. Fuck yeah. Like there are so many times where I've been so fucking confused because I was in a situation where this guy was literally telling me that he was obsessed with me. He was making plans. We were going to dinners. We were going to events together. We were, as I mentioned earlier, working out together and like doing very intimate activities together.

But he still wasn't willing to be my boyfriend. He still wasn't willing to put that label on it and say, we're in a serious relationship. I'm not seeing anyone else and you're not seeing anyone else. And I just thought and maybe trusted that it would change over time because of what he was saying and the actions that were going along with it. He was doing everything right, but he was clearly saying he did not have a definitive answer for me. And he made it very clear. And

I think that says a lot. If someone's not willing to give you a definitive answer, but they're doing all these amazing things for you and they're showing up for you and they're treating you like you're in a relationship, it can be so very confusing and so frustrating and so weird because you're like, how many other people is he doing this for? Like how much fucking time do you have on your hands? So I totally see both sides of why a situationship can be good and can be bad. And that's why I kind of say,

Your happiness is your guide to knowing if something's right for you. If you are always happy and you're waking up in high spirits and this situationship isn't affecting your day-to-day and you're happy and comfortable with this person doing their thing and you doing yours, then stay and do whatever it is that you need to do and continue what you're doing. But once again, if you're left in the dark, if you're anxious, confused, asking your friends for constant advice and help because you're losing your fucking mind, then

reconsider being in this situation because you do deserve clarity and you do deserve respect.

commitment, if that's what you want, if that's what's going to make you happy, that's what you deserve. Don't stray away from happiness just because you're trying to, you know, see what happens with this person. Like if they're not taking your happiness into consideration and they're not respecting you and they're not showing up for you and committing to you that the way that you need, I don't know. I just don't think it's necessarily worth it.

This is all up to you. This is all just from my experiences as usual. And I always like to clarify that because I don't want to, you know, give the wrong advice and tell you guys what to do. But I just feel like once you know your worth and once you know

you're not going to put yourself in situations where you're constantly anxious and miserable. And a lot of people do. And I just, I'm protective. Like I'm protective of you guys because I want you to be with someone who wants you just as much as you want them.

So that concludes today's episode. I hope you guys have an amazing day. Thank you so much for listening as usual. If you haven't already, be sure to leave a review on Spotify or Apple. I read everything. I look at everything. And if you want, you could always message me on Instagram at Liss, L-Y-S-S, or on the podcast account at Date Yourself Instead.

Thank you again for listening. I love you guys. I hope that was super helpful. And if your happiness is being compromised by a situationship right now, just remember you deserve unconditional love. You deserve the world and you are amazing and you deserve better. Just remember that. And I hope you took that from today's episode. Stay tuned for the next one. Have an amazing day. And thanks for listening.