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12/5/24: Morning Joe Death Spiral, French Gov Collapses, Biden Mulls Mass Pardons

2024/12/5
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比尔·马赫表达了对持续评论特朗普的厌倦,并考虑退出媒体。萨加尔认为马赫对特朗普的评论缺乏原创性,并建议他退休。克里斯塔尔认为马赫对当前对话的贡献有限,并且近年来他对特朗普的评论重复且乏味。克里斯塔尔还指出,由于经常批评左派,马赫获得了一些右翼粉丝。 萨加尔认为Morning Joe节目及其常驻嘉宾正经历一场严重的危机,David Frum对福克斯新闻的评论导致节目组道歉。萨加尔认为Morning Joe节目在访问Mar-a-Lago后失去了大量观众,MSNBC正在经历严重的收视率下滑,并可能被剥离。萨加尔认为节目组对批评的反应显示出他们的恐惧,并因害怕而自我审查。萨加尔还指出,Morning Joe节目组被指责为权力献媚,并且在对特朗普的评价上前后矛盾。萨加尔在其职业生涯中从未遇到过类似的自我审查情况。 克里斯塔尔认为Morning Joe节目组被指责在特朗普当选后对其阿谀奉承,并且正处于恐慌之中,试图维持其相关性。克里斯塔尔认为Morning Joe节目对民主党有害,并且节目组审查评论是为了讨好权力人士。克里斯塔尔还指出,共和党议员渴望获得主流媒体的关注和认可,Morning Joe节目组可能转投福克斯新闻,并且可能会将转投福克斯新闻合理化。

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Why is Bill Maher considering quitting his show?

Maher is bored with the repetitive nature of covering Trump and feels he has nothing new to contribute. He also expresses fear about Trump's potential return to office.

Why did Morning Joe feel the need to apologize for David Frum's comments?

David Frum made comments about Fox News that were deemed too flippant for the current political climate. The show felt it necessary to clarify and distance itself from Frum's remarks.

What led to the collapse of the French government?

Emmanuel Macron's decision to hold snap elections resulted in a fragmented parliament. He then appointed a center-right Prime Minister, Michel Barnier, to avoid a no-confidence vote from Marine Le Pen's far-right party. This strategy failed, leading to Barnier's ousting and the government's collapse.

Why is Joe Biden considering mass pardons for figures like Dr. Fauci and Liz Cheney?

Biden is mulling pardons to protect these figures from potential retribution by a Trump administration, which has campaigned on a policy of retribution against political opponents.

What was the reaction to Joe Biden's potential pardons on The View?

Charlemagne called out Whoopi Goldberg for defending Biden's potential pardons, arguing that Biden's previous stance on not pardoning his son Hunter contradicts his current actions.

Why is there controversy around pardoning Dr. Fauci?

Fauci is accused of lying to the American people and perjuring himself before Congress. Some argue that pardoning him would undermine accountability for his actions during the COVID-19 pandemic.

How has the political landscape in Europe been affected by the rise of far-right parties?

The rise of far-right parties in Europe, such as Marine Le Pen's in France, has led to political fragmentation and instability. Incumbent leaders like Macron have struggled to form stable governments, reflecting a broader trend of anti-incumbency across the continent.

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Krystal and Saagar discuss Morning Joe death spiral as liberals furious, French gov collapses, Biden mulls mass pardons. 

 

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