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Hello, my beautiful people. Welcome back to the Moments Podcast. I'm here today with somebody very special. You might know her. She runs a lot. She's all over TikTok and she's really good at this one dance that you might have seen. But I'm here with Miss Renee Ngo and we are going to be talking about who knows what, all sorts of things. I want to talk about her and how she got here and what she's doing and what she's up to. And yeah, just chat. So everybody say hi, Renee. Hi.

Hi, Renee. I'm dead at like the intro. That's classic. I know. I didn't even I didn't even plan that one out. I was just like, oh, she runs. That's that's what I got. Before we get into like your whole life story and how you got here and what you're up to. I have three questions, maybe four. We'll see what I wrote down. The first one I asked this yesterday to Presley.

And it's kind of an evil question because it's just, it's a would you rather that's kind of impossible. But would you rather never listen to music again or never watch a movie again? I think I'd rather never watch a movie again. I love music. Like, I don't know, how would I run? Like, what am I supposed to do? I had a feeling you would say that. But also, low key, I think everybody would. But then there's some people that are really big movie people. So maybe not. I know. I love movies with all my heart.

heart. But what if, I mean, I guess I could listen to music and movies, right? Like, yeah, you could listen to music and movies. Maybe I would choose movies and I would just always play movies. Yeah. Yeah. Or like podcasts or Tik TOK. You could just scroll through Tik TOK and listen to the little clips on there. I choose that. Okay. Yeah. I choose that. Okay. Yeah. I'm just trying to justify somebody has to pick movies. Otherwise I got to pick a new question. Okay. Next one. One meal that you would eat for the rest of your life.

Sweetgreen. Sweetgreen? Like a sweetgreen, like, skateboard. I've never been. What? I need to go. Do they not have them in Florida? I think they have one in Miami, but I'm, like, an hour from Miami. But my friend Meredith loves Sweetgreen, too. What is it? Like, a salad place or a bowl place or what? It's just kind of like a salad bowl. It's like kava, but more like, I don't know. I've never had kava either. Okay.

It just has like everything, right? You like pick a protein, you pick some greens, you pick like rice, quinoa, and then you like pick veggies, fruits. It's just so good. And they've just mastered the ingredients. They're so fresh. It's so good. That sounds good. Do you have a fresh kitchen here? Like, uh, no. What is that? No. Okay. So it's basically, they're all the same place, but different. Fresh kitchen, you pick like noodles, vegetables.

They have like a kale Caesar or rice and you pick that as your base and then your protein and then your veggies. They're all the same, but I want to try sweet green so badly. So I think you've just inspired me to do that today, but I also want to do air one. You haven't been to air one. I went to air one, one time last time I was here, but I want to get like a $50 million smoothie. So you have to, they're like 25 bucks, but it's ridiculous. But once in a lifetime, you know, it's not like I'm going to get them every day. Just once. I got to try the Haley Bieber one. Um, okay.

what's one place at the top of your bucket list i really want to go to um i don't know if i'm gonna say right but it's called cook islands maybe it is it cook islands k-o-o-k i have no idea what you're talking about or where it is or maybe c-o-o-k it's beautiful tons of like mommy influencers go there oh my gosh maybe i've seen it before it's just so tropical i also what is it in like uh

The Caribbean? I honestly don't even know. I don't know where it is. I just saw the location tag on the post. I just saw it. I see it everywhere. For some reason, it's always on my For You page. I also really want to go to the BVI or the USVI, St. Croix, or anywhere over there. Have you been there? Anyone in the Caribbean is beautiful. You've probably been there because that's right off where you live. Yes. We...

Like when I was younger, my mom only wanted to go to places that were Caribbean, like in the Caribbean for vacation because she's like not big into it. Now she likes hiking and stuff, but like she just wanted to be on a beach with blue water and I get the hype. I mean, it's beautiful. So that's where we would always go. Yeah, because for you, it's probably seven hours to fly over there or something. Yeah, it's like seven hours to probably get to, six hours to get to Miami plus like another stop. There's no direct. Jeez. Yeah, for me, if I wanted to go to Jamaica or something, it's like a two hour flight. Costa Rica is a two hour flight. What?

But then you can just like hop down to Mexico. Yeah. Which is so cool. Hawaii isn't that bad. Hawaii's like four hours. And when I was going to Hawaii, it would take me 10 hours to travel there. So there's pros and cons. There's pros and cons to the east and west coast. But speaking of, you just went to Lake Powell. Have you been? No. No.

It's the best place in the world. It is literally like I have been to Europe many times. I've been to all over the world. I love Lake Powell. Dude, more than anything. And you stay on the boat. Yes. So just so you guys know, she was like living on a boat for how long were you there? Like five days, something like a week, like a week. And she just wakes up and looks out the window and she's floating in the water with these massive red rocks around her. And it's like,

flat beautiful gorgeous delicious lake water and I was so jealous because I've never done anything like that I've never been a lake girl grew up in Florida so I'm always on the beach and in the ocean but the lake is just different don't you guys have lakes in Florida though we do but there's like gators but there's definitely alligators and we have like springs and stuff that I want to go to eventually because it's like crystal clear water with manatees and stuff but yes eventually I've been to a ton of springs by like seaside and all that area like I've been to seaside a ton and I

I love that. I don't even know. Where is Seaside? Like 30A. Oh, okay. Like Panama City Beach. Yes. I need to get over there eventually. But Lake Powell looked insane. You made that go to the top of my bucket list. Go. At all costs. It was so cool. So cool. Okay.

Now, this one is very dedicated to you. I've crafted this just for you. And it might be impossible and it might be hard to answer, but maybe not. I don't know. We'll see. Would you rather never wear your Aeroswift Nike shorts ever again or never put on a pair of hokos ever again? Never wear my Aeroswifts again.

That was too easy. No, I mean, the Aeroswifts are like a part of me. They're just colorful. They're fun. But they are like sometimes a little bit too like revealing. Okay, yeah. Because they have that slit on the side. Because they blow up, right? And like they kind of like go with the wind. So sometimes when I'm running and I'm crossing a street and like the wind's hitting me, I'm like, it just shows like the underwear. And I'm like, this isn't the best idea. And like when I'm at the gym, if I decide to like lift or have to run, it's like.

You kind of have to wear like a pair of spandex or something under them, which is like at that point you could just get a different pair of shorts. Exactly. No, hey, they're part of her. They're part of me. But hokas you just can't beat. They're my favorite sneakers ever. Ever. Which ones are your favorite? Okay, well, I only have the really OG like the Clifton 8s. Oh, okay. No, wait, is it?

I have a few pairs. Are they like thick? Or are they like just kind of like... They're thick and chunky. Okay, that's probably the Bond I ate. Yeah. I'm like, give me the rundown of every single shoe ever. But I also just got a pair of Mach 6s. And I got to do like an Instagram or TikTok video for them. And I was like, no way. That's so fun. Because I'm a Hoka lover. I always have been. But yeah, you're the OG. Okay. So we'll get into why you're such a Hoka, Aeroswift girl in a second. But first, I want to go all the way back to the beginning. Okay.

Tell me the start of Renee. Like, when did you start? Gosh, yeah.

modeling is that probably the first thing you did as like a career that's so that's really where it all started I graduated high school early 17 and you were living in Utah I was living in Utah I grew up in Utah same same house my whole life like probably Utah that's where I grew up I feel like Provo is like its own it's like a it's a movie it's a simulation over there like I don't even understand I think Utah is so cool but it is one of a kind for sure it really is it's classic and like that's when you when that's all you know it's kind of like

you know, it's a, it's definitely a culture shock. People used to always tell me when I was like, yeah, I grew up in Provo, Utah and I was in LA. They're like, is that a culture shock? I'm like, yes. I bet. I mean, it's so, and, and is it like a city where everybody kind of knows everybody? I mean, yeah, because it is a college town, right? So you have BYU, which is like very, I mean, well known across the country and, um, that's in Provo, but then like, there's people who live there who like just randomly live there. Like in my opinion, like

It's kind of weird to live there unless you're going to college there. But yeah, it's like me and all my friends and family, we all just live there. And so, yeah, it's like you live in a college town and it's kind of just like a part of you, but you don't go to college there. It's this whole thing. Anyway, so 17, I decide I'm going to graduate a semester early. Really not that deep. Maybe even it was a term or semester early. I can't remember. Yeah.

And I really wanted to pursue modeling. I had a mother agency that was in Salt Lake City. Okay, wait. Back me up really quick. Every time I talk to somebody in modeling, they say mother agency. What does that mean? So it's kind of like a smaller... It's almost like someone who's not like a... There's IMG, there's Wilmina, these big modeling agencies, right? So this would be like someone that's kind of a

of a boutique agency, a smaller agency. So for girls who want to get into modeling, this is for you. Like one of my biggest tips is to start with a mother agency, like a smaller agency who can really like care about you and be like almost like a second mom to you. My mother agent is still like a second mom. That is so special. She's a great woman. I've heard that term like thrown around and I'm like, what does that mean? I figured it was something like that, but it's cool to hear it. Yeah. So mother agent. And then she was like, okay, I have connects in LA. I'll set you up with like 12 agencies out there and you meet all of them. We'll see

the ones who pass, the ones who don't. And then out of the ones who say yes, we'll go from there. Met with 12, I think it was around eight who passed on me. Okay. And then five who said yes. And out of the five, one of those was Wilmina in LA. And we went for it and it was awesome. And I moved down here. So this was when you were 17? Yeah. I turned about 18 like that in May. So yeah, it was about like the end of the school year anyway. So even though I graduate early, I kind of stayed to just hang out with friends for the rest of my senior year.

Moved to LA. I was 18, lived out that summer. So at that point, did you move solo? Yes. Oh my gosh. Were you like ready to go? Like ready to just like take that next step in your life? Yeah. So I found a roommate. She was awesome. And, um, she, so we, we became friends and that was so fun. Um, and then she, and, uh, let me think. Sorry. You're good. So, yeah, so I moved down there and

modeling takes a second. Like you have to build your book. You know, you're not like going to just start booking all these cool jobs. You're not going to start making all this money. I feel like it's not a career where, I mean, I'm sure there's people who get blessed enough to get thrown into it and it's like all successful and perfect and like happiness and rainbows and butterflies. But it's also something that takes a lot of effort and a lot of like,

I'm sure just it's mentally taxing. Like that's what I want to ask about after this story, because like the modeling world is kind of scary. Like it's intimidating, but it's also cool. And I'm sure there's so many beautiful things that come from it. Um,

But, yeah, so you move here. You start modeling. You just work on it for – how old are you now? I'm 23. Okay, so we're the same age. We're both 23. Isn't that so old? Isn't that scary? Yeah, like it's been five years since we were out of high school. Like it'll be six years next year. No, I was thinking this yesterday. I stopped my clock like my senior year of high school. I'm 18. I refuse to get any older. Like I love this chapter of my life, but in my head –

No way I'm 23. No way I'm closer to 25 than 18. No, no, no, no. That's scary. No, it's crazy. But look at us. We're doing nothing. We're adults now. Yeah. 18, you're a baby. Like you're just figuring it out. So I was there. My parents were not stoked on it. Like they were like, you're not moving to California for long. You're going to try it out, have fun, but you're coming back. We will help you out with like a month of rent. Then you have to figure out a way to come back.

Honestly, like, good for them. No, honestly. Like, I love that push. I do. I do. And they let you do it. They did. That's a great step because I feel like there's so many parents who wouldn't let you take that step if you wanted to, especially if, like, coming somewhere out of Utah is kind of. Yeah.

A lot of people just stay put in Utah. Totally. Right. Yeah. A lot do, which honestly, like it's a great place. I have no, I have no like hatred towards a place. I love it. I just don't want to live there anymore, but we can get to that later. Um, and so, yeah, I, I'm in LA and I have $350 to my name. I never worked a job growing up. Like my parents were like focused on school. So I didn't have like a high school job and I was like

kind of like trying to battle like, okay, so I want to make money as a model. How am I going to do this? Like, okay, I'll set up all these test shoots, but the test shoots like get you jobs, like build your portfolio as a whole. But most of those probably aren't paid. Like I feel like any, none of it was quote unquote entry level job. Like you're just starting out in the modeling world. They're going to use what they can from you until you're

valued more. You know what I mean? It's crazy how that is. It just takes time. It's like, okay, well, when the client asks like, oh, what jobs has she done? Well, she's actually done none. None. You know? And so it was kind of like, and I didn't really model in Utah with my mother agency. And so-

Yeah, it just took freaking time. And I was like, well, I'm dead broke. I have no... I have to figure this out. So I started working at Brandy Melville. Oh my gosh. That's iconic. That is so classic. I lasted two weeks. I couldn't do it. It was just too much drama. It was just... The girls there personally were amazing. I just was like, this is not my vibe. It's just not a good environment to be in, I don't think. I think, like, I've never even watched the documentary of everything, but I...

I can assume and I can envision in my own brain what it must be like to work in an environment like that. I just feel like it's competitive and the priorities are all twisted and messed up. But anyways, I'm glad you did that for two weeks. Experienced it. I quit and I was like, well, still have the problem of not making money. I hadn't booked a job yet and it was end of the summer, right? So I've been there May, June, July, August. My parents are already begging me to come home. They're like, get back here. They're not paying my rent anymore.

Like, I have to figure it out. And rent's not cheap here. Nothing's cheap here. No, girl, no. Even then, like, yeah, five years ago, it was probably a little bit more affordable. A little bit, yeah. But barely still. I mean, yeah. So I'm now, like, okay, I'm going to start nannying. I found this amazing family. And I got hooked up in this really cool position where I would go, like, three to eight every single night. Okay, okay. So I was doing that. I was like, okay, I think it was, I don't know, maybe it was –

I just loved them so much. So it was great. I would do that. And then I was dating someone at the time. I'd go see them after. That was so fun. Like that era of my life. Nannying is the best. I love kids. It's so mindless. It's so fun. That was my first job in college too. Everyone needs to do a babysitting, like nannying something.

No, it's just it gives you like such a love for life. You get to be a kid. We forget how to do that when we grow up. So I highly recommend nanny babysitting gig, especially at that age. Totally. Even younger. Like it's a great experience. So, yeah, to even like fast forward and speed us up. I was doing that. I booked my first job with Hollister. Oh, my gosh. How crazy. I was a baby. I look back at those photos and I'm like, I don't even look like Danny.

like that anymore that's like so full circle too though to book something as awesome as that as like your first big job yeah that is awesome and I was just like I was I remember like crying like oh my gosh this is crazy and the thing about that though was like okay that is awesome

And that's like some money in my pocket. But those how modeling works is it takes three months to get that check. Yeah. So there's like a 90 day. Yeah. And so it's like I knew I wasn't getting that for a while. So I was like, OK, I've got to keep manning. And it was great. I loved it. But anyways, things did pick up into that winter. And then, you know, you start 2020. I'm you know, I'm booking a few jobs a week. I'm like, oh, and then boom, COVID. Yeah. And then you I start really working February, March 2022. I'm like busy forever.

five times a week you know I'm like I can actually support myself fully and completely I'm like girl boss era love oh my gosh so then I move home to Utah okay I keep my apartment LA I'm still paying for it my car is there but I just like took a road trip home with a friend I was like let's go to Utah and just bunk it until we figure it out yeah well yeah because COVID what do you do hard what do you do like COVID here everything closed right I was in Florida so it's really hard for me to

what it was like when everything was closed and nobody was outside in a city that's usually so active. Like Florida, we still were able to go to the beach. Like we didn't have nearly as many rules. Like I was a surf camp instructor in Florida that summer of COVID. And like looking back, I'm like, I don't,

that was crazy that we were able to do that still. And like, that was like not against the rules and it wasn't illegal, but anyways, here it must've been ghost town. Yeah. Cause I mean, Florida and California, very different rules, right. And just situations. And so, yeah, I mean, Florida like was, you know, business was on, you know, and after a couple of months people kind of, I felt like we're chill about it in Florida, but here in California it was really serious. And yeah, so I was in Utah and that's kind of when, um,

I started to date Connor. Okay. Yes. I wanted to ask about this. So that is where me and Connor really started to like, we had been friends earlier, but, um, we, we started to really hang out. Um, and so that's like when we started dating was like March, 2020. Wow. Okay. So you guys had known each other, friends, just of friends, like mutual friends. Yeah. Mutual friends. We had known, um,

just because of church and stuff, like mutual friends from like last summer when I was in LA, but nothing ever happened from it. So we were just really good friends. We went on a date. We went on two dates actually, but nothing happened. We were just really good friends and stayed really close. And then he moved back to Utah as well because he was living in Orange County. And then we just started hanging out every day. Wait, so you were both living here. What was he doing when he was here? He was working. He was working with his business partner and just working on whatever,

I don't even know what they were doing right back then, but they were, they were working on things and just trying to get businesses started back then. And, um, so he's always wanted to be a business owner. Like he was always been a little entrepreneurial from the start. Love that. Um, that's a gift. That's really a gift to like, want to,

just do things that people aren't doing or start something of your own and chase it and it's like so cool I'll ask more about him after but like lots of failure and a lot of you know I mean it's not easy yeah it's like high risk high reward like you have to just go for things you don't know I mean it's it's just so cool and it's so inspiring to see because I get scared to do things that might not work out but like starting a business is crazy it's crazy it's like yeah this is either gonna freaking blow up or this is gonna go right into the dirt and like

everyone's gonna know and it's embarrassing no I mean like think about how many people like have business startups or start new things or start businesses that don't work out and it's all everybody I think has their own individual path and like the business that's meant for them will work out I mean just like it has for Connor it seems like um but yeah before we make this all about him I do want to hear more but you started dating him and then you guys kind of got married when'd you get married so um I got married when I was 20 we started dating when I was 19.

So we dated like a whole year, actually. But after COVID, kind of like the end of 2020, I go back out to LA because things are still like, I'm still kind of working as a model again, which is really like, I was blessed. Like, I don't know what I would have done. I had bills to pay. So I started working and then 2020 kind of finishes out the year, whatever, working a little bit here and there. And at this point, are you on TikTok yet?

Yeah, I guess that was the actual question. It was like, how did you start TikTok and stuff? But yeah, it was then. Like, that summer of 2020 was really when everything started. That was like me and you both at the same time. Yeah. But it's crazy because I only found you like two years ago, I think. Probably less than two years ago we followed each other. Dude, like maybe a year ago. Like, I found you from...

your gym videos, but the ones that were like the photo slideshows of like getting ready in the morning. Dude, that, yeah, that was 2020. That was 2023. Wow. Like beginning of 2020. That is so crazy. So we've really only known each other for like less than a year or maybe a year and a little. Yeah.

And we've both been doing it for so long. Isn't that crazy how that works? No. And honestly, yeah, 2020, I just, I kept posting like four times a day. That was just having fun with it. Did you, did you want it to grow? Like, or was it more posting for fun? And if it happens, it happens. Or you were like, I'm kind of eating this up and I want to see what happens if it grows. No, it was the first thing you said. Like, I never thought, oh, I'm going to be like an influencer and like post my life. No, honestly, no. I thought like modeling was my thing. And I just,

Modeling is awesome, but I felt sometimes not super... I felt like a lot of times there was not really a purpose. I get it, yeah. I was just like, okay, I'm modeling. Well, modeling is hard because it's very...

surface level when you look at it from like a bird's eye, like you are hired because you look a certain way and you are going to be on this website. And it's like so cool. And I think it can be very fulfilling if you make it full. Can I speak? No, like fulfilling. But if there's like a part of you that feels like you're missing something, I don't think you get it from there. You know, I agree with you. So but you're still modeling now. Yes. But less often, less often.

Yeah. And so back then, like it wasn't like the passion projects. It wasn't like purpose. Like it was like I was the random girl on the website for like a brand you haven't heard of. And I was like, you know, a lot of the times, like I didn't feel like there was any conversation during the day. It was kind of just like, let's do our job. Let's do this. There wasn't a ton of like.

just like heart into it. And that was like hard. I think that there's a lot of models who do like, like editorials and like projects where it can be fun, you know, they get to kind of have maybe some input or maybe some goal that includes all these steps, but it's, it's different when you're just doing it because it's, it's work, you know? Yeah. And so, I mean, obviously it's, it's such a privilege to be able to have done that, but there was times where I was like,

you know, honestly, like this is awesome, but I'm not really fulfilled here. And so that's kind of what pushed me to post on TikTok. Like I'm going to post my personality. Like I have a personality. I'm not just like this, like girl who's modeling, you know? And so I started to just, yeah, post about running, post about things I love, post about my faith, post about Connor, post about like,

like what I was doing, my outfits and just kind of everything. And that's kind of, but yeah, start in 2020. It's crazy how like, no, I love it. That's all I love. The whole story comes from all the little pieces. So I love it. But I, it's so crazy. When I started posting too, it was very similar. Like it was just to build like a community and like make friends and share different parts of my life that I feel like

I just wanted to share, you know, and it's, it's so cool. Cause then people get to know you and you get to feel like you are sharing something valuable into the world just by being someone positive or someone. I mean, now you're inspiring people all over the world to, to like move their body and to be active and to just be happy. And like, it's so fun to watch you. And you are somebody who pops up on my for you page. You know, there's certain influencers you follow that

are always on your For You page. Like other people you follow and you don't see them too often, you're always there. And I think since I interact with your content, no, it's such a good thing. It's so fun. And then you and Ella now too, like your best friend, like it's so cute to watch you guys. Like you remind me so much of me and my best friend. But you're definitely making such an impact. And now beyond just through social media, you started Run Club. Tell me the beginning of that because –

I feel like it's such a... There's Run Club actually tomorrow, which you should totally come if you can. I know. I want to try to. It's just kind of far. I know. I'm sorry. But I'm like, you should have done it closer. Come on, Renee. Like, do better. That's on me. That's all on you. Run Club is a crazy, like, it's a whole nother... But actually before Run Club, just tell me about running. Like, when did you find running and why do you love it? Because I'm not a runner. So I need to know, like, what sparked this in you? Like, have you always been this way? Sparked it was also COVID.

Okay. Bored out of my mind. There was no gyms open. Like, not that I was like this workout girl, but like there was no, yeah, gyms open. I was like into Pilates and stuff. Nothing's open. I'm bored out of my mind. My husband, I feel like he's always like the start of inspiration for me. That's so cute. He's training for an ultra marathon. Like who does that? What the heck is an ultra marathon? What? Yeah.

Yeah. That sounds like some David Goggins behavior. They're the same one in one. They're in the same like they're the same person. Oh, my gosh. He sounds like it. Like I want to ask because I think you guys are so different low key, but it works like opposites attract. You know, yeah. It's like I would rather die than do 100 miler. But you're like, yeah, I'll do a marathon, but that's it. So he's doing that. I'm bored. I've never really had like I'd never played sports growing up. I was not athletic.

In any way. And I was just like, I guess I'll like go do a couple miles with you. And like he was the first person who like really pushed me to like try. That's really special. And like a lot of people probably be like, I don't like that. But like, you know what? I had never. My parents were like, you're not doing sports. That's like for boys, like whatever. And I was like,

Like, okay, like whatever. I guess you're my parents. I have to listen to you. And so it was the first time I was like, wait, I actually was like pushed hard to like go do four miles with you. And I actually freaking loved it. Yeah. It's crazy how good you feel when you do the things that scare you or intimidate you or like challenge you. And that's something I really do want to force myself to start running because for me, girl, it is a challenge. I can't make it around my block. It's like I've done four marathons. It's like, dude, I did four miles today and I was like dying.

Yeah. So it's just it's a challenge. And I think that's so cool that he was a part of that journey and that inspiration, because it just goes to take a testimony of your relationship. Like you guys inspire each other in so many ways, I'm sure. And it shows, even though like I only see him on your TikTok every once in a while. Like it's just it's like a radiating thing, you know, and it's really cool. So he made you start running, not made you start running, but like inspired it. Yeah. So then.

After you started doing it, was it kind of like this immediate addiction to it or was it a slow build? It was a slow build for sure. It was definitely a slow build. I think like we had been dating. We'd been dating like maybe six months and he signed me up for half marathon. Oh shit. So you're like, I don't have a choice. I'm in. I'm locked in. I honestly was kind of mad. I was like, you didn't tell me. And now I have to do this.

That's awesome. And I was like, I'm not doing it. Because I was like, I genuinely can't do it. And I did it. And it was amazing. And I loved every moment. That's really helpful, too, to have that buddy that keeps you accountable. Like, locks you in. Yeah, I felt like no one had ever pushed me. Like, ever in my life. Well, yeah, especially, again, like, I'm going back to Utah here. But I feel like it's very...

It's everybody kind of does the same routine, which is perfect. I think about my circle at home too. Like a lot of people who just stay in Boca, same life. Everybody has the same childhood, kind of meets the same people, follows the same routine, gets into the same work, like whatever it may be. It happens in every bubble ever. But until you're forced to do something out of your comfort zone like that, you don't know any better. So you don't. So that's so cool. So then that stuck during COVID. You started doing it. You were doing social media, posting about running. And

And then Run Club comes into the picture. Yeah. So I guess now, like, I mean, that's such like fast forward. I mean, when I was posting about like when I started TikTok and I was trying to do it, I was still modeling and running and stuff like I had like twenty five thousand followers. Yeah. So when did this big jump happen? I think like twenty twenty three. I think I hit like five hundred K and I was like insane.

Because I remember it must have been around there when I followed you because I remember you doing the Hoka giveaways every 100K. Yeah. And now, I mean, you're at like 1.1 million. You're going to have to be giving out like soon enough 30 pairs of Hokas. Girl, I'm down. I told everyone like I'll be doing this forever. It's so cool. It's really cool. I need to do that 1.1 giveaway soon.

Yeah, because did that happen recently? Yeah, it did. Because you know how, like, the analytics, like, it'll jump back and forth, so you don't really know. But, yeah, I mean, I need to do that, like, soon. So thanks for reminding me. 11 hokas for 1.1. Guys, be on the lookout. Go follow. Make it 12 pairs of hokas soon enough. So, yeah, it took...

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You know, I was like, well, always people who had it with good intentions. People who align with me will align with me. People who don't don't. That's just going to hate. Yeah. I'm sure what they say. I don't care. Build it slowly. You know, build a community, a true community. That's so cool. And it's it's you know, it's easy to grow if you if you want to grow. Totally. It's not easy to build a community where it's like your friends and your people and your family. Like you can see there's.

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That was 2023. Yeah. When did this become the run club? The run club. Yeah. So 2023, I think at this point, like during the run club situation, when it all started, I probably had like 300, 400,000 followers. Okay. Um, I was like, how could, okay. So back then there was actually also a scare. I don't know if you remember that TikTok was going to ban. It was like the first like scare. I do recall. And I was like, okay, well in my head, I was like,

300,000 followers. That's crazy. What if it all just went away? Like this was all gone. Like I've worked so hard for this, you know? And I'm like,

what if we like put this into real life like what does this mean how could I do that okay well I guess we could have like a meetup or something why don't we run together you know I'm like oh my gosh like people do run clubs I've been to run clubs in New York LA people do them there's there there's run clubs all over the world all over the country that people just do in their cities right I was like what if we like found a way I looked at my analytics I'm like okay like top cities Utah LA New York like Houston like okay let's go to all those cities that is so cool why not like

And at this point, it's like, this is out of my own pocket. This is not profitable in any way. But let's fly out, me, my husband, my family or friends, and let's see how many people we can get here. Yeah, it's one of those things where, yes, it costs money, but the reward of it is so much more beautiful to just be able to build all those connections and meet so many people. I can only imagine it's the most...

overwhelmingly fulfilling experience, especially now the way that you've grown it. But where did you do the first one? So the first ones were in Utah, right? The first one that was traveled outside of like where I was living at the time, because we lived in Utah. Like once we got married, we moved back to Utah before we moved back to Orange County. Oh yes, I totally forgot. I'm sorry.

I forgot that you were living in Utah. You only moved back to California. Like in October. Like it hasn't even been a year. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So first ones were there. You were living there. Gotcha. So LA, Utah, back to Orange County. That's kind of how it went. Anyway, so we're in Utah and the first couple ones, you know, 15, 10, 20 people. Amazing. Stoked out of my mind. I remember bringing like all the granola bars that I had at my house and

And I was just like, everyone take something. It was so exciting. I brought highballs for everyone. That was my favorite energy drink. They're gone now, right? I feel like you had so much power, you could have re-sparked their whole business. I actually hit up the co-founder or the founder and I was like, what's it going to take? And they're like, it's not happening.

happening. That's so unfortunate. Um, it was, I really, truly loved them and they never made me anxious. Okay. Wait, but like what kind of energy drink was it? Is it buzzy? Not buzzy. What's the word fizzy? Yeah. It's carbonated, like sparkling water. Okay. And the flavors aren't they like odd flavors though? Like they don't really taste good to be honest with you. But to me it was the only singular drink. And I still feel this way. That would not make me anxious. Good to know. So it was not like I can try one now, but, but

If I ever find one somewhere randomly, I'm sure you still have a few in your garage. I do. My parents have, like, my stock back in Utah. Like, I have a lot of stock.

I have like probably a hundred left. No, I remember that, that time watching those videos of you being like, I need to find them everywhere. And when people first started telling you they were going to be discontinued, you were like, you were broken. Yeah, I was broken. Um, sorry. Where were we? We were first run club. You brought high balls for everybody. Now you're probably like, I should have kept those dang energy drinks. So we traveled to Austin, Texas. It was July 1st, 2023. Wow. This is like this only a year ago. Yeah.

The first big one, I can't even tell you, like, no one could have prepared me for this. Like, we, I started to hire my two best friends to help me, like, on the, because we made, like, a separate Instagram to, like, send out invites. So this, at this point, after the first couple, you were like, oh, shit, this is bigger than I recognized. We need to, like, make a limit here and a wait list or however it works now. Yeah, so we had the Instagram, like, right up when it started. And there was, like, a thousand followers, maybe a couple hundred.

Right. And then I started posting about it and obviously grew. But it was. Yeah. So Austin, I was like anyone who asks for the address, send it to him as long as they're like a verified person and they're not like a bot or like some creepy man, you know. So we would send the address out and we never really thought anything of it.

And we got all these, like, brands to donate. It was, like, this whole thing. Like, I remember we had, like, five checked bags each. I remember watching your stories of making the goodie bags. And it was just... It was so cool. Getting, like, a car rental and, like, finding, like, going to the local church and getting, like, tables to set up. Yeah. It was this whole shebang. Well, because it's not even, like... It's not like you're just hosting this club where people meet up and then you just run. It's, like, you also are...

You have to find a way to talk to these people and make sure that it's an organized event. You can't just... There's only... I want it to be worth it for them. You have to have control. Yeah. And so... Yeah. And so...

Didn't really cap it. And I think there was like 350, 400 people. I don't even honestly know. That's insanity. And we in like gulfed the parking lot just like us standing around. Imagine being somebody just driving by and you see 400 girls that all are like, you know, same age, same vibe in their cute little running outfits. I'd be like,

What is going on? This is not even real. I can't even tell you the amount of just like joy, happiness, purpose. Like everything that I felt like in my modeling days, like really early modeling days of like no purpose. What am I doing? Like is this even like, you know, worth my time? Like I was just like full of it, full of purpose. It just gives me goosebumps to think about because there's nothing, nothing can compare to that feeling. And it also makes you feel like everything I've been working towards and like trying to

make happen all of your expectations were probably so exceeded you're like this is what do you mean this is real this is about to happen these people are here to run and move their body and meet each other and make friendships yeah I can't even there's no word to describe how I felt that day and I remember leaving and I was just like my two best friends with me my husband we were just like

that was crazy. Like, why did people even come? Because you probably had no idea. No idea. I mean, people brought their friends and... Yeah. It was so fun. And so that was kind of the first. And then we're like, okay. And at that one, did you have your megaphone? Like, how did you even organize things? Yeah, we did. We went to, like, a Harbor Freight in... It was in Austin, yeah. And we were like, let's get, like, a random microphone. Like, a megaphone. It was so... Oh, it was so fun. And so... Probably so surreal. It was surreal. And so then we just started, like, okay, let's put, like,

like tour dates on there like let's go heirs tour mode like right like so we were like okay Boston like Ohio like all these places you were you were doing them a lot like a couple times a month yeah there was one point in August maybe it was September no it was September like it was literally every weekend I and I think I remember that because I was like this girl's got to be tired

Yeah, and my husband was like, dude, I have to work. Yeah, because he's kind of your partner in crime. Yeah, I'm like, I can't go without you, you know? Whose shoulders are you going to get on? Yeah, whose shoulders? Yeah. And so I was like...

he's like security guard you know so I was like yeah no this isn't gonna work so I was like okay let's like scale it back a little and honestly we were traveling the east coast every weekend so it was like this isn't like we would go like Friday Saturday come back and then like the next week I'd already be packing and that's far it's really far it's not like you're going doing a one hour flight to I don't know Colorado or something you were like let's just go back and forth and back and forth across the country back and forth yeah we did do Colorado and it was so fun by the way we drove there it was so fun beautiful I want to go again so badly so fun

So, yeah. So we did that. And I think now I would have to look at my phone, but I think we're at like 28, maybe 29. So holy cow. Yeah. Holy cow. That happened so fast. It's insane. I don't even know how we did it. Like I counted them all up and I was like, that's insane. Yeah. And you've been able to meet so many people from so many different places. So many amazing girls. And I bet so many people there have made so many friendships and like because of you organizing that. And it's just so awesome.

Cool. It's so beautiful. I'm so admirable. Thank you. Admirable, whatever the word is. But now it's huge. So now you have a bunch. You do them what? Once a month now? Once a month. We did twice a month this month because we have like Orange County is like that's not really working. Ones that are close. It's less energy. Yeah, we did Atlanta beginning of July. The next one we have is Charleston, South Carolina. I've never been to South Carolina. Oh my gosh, I've heard. I've been to Charleston only...

for a couple days when I was much younger, but I want to go back. A bunch of cool people are living there now. It's kind of the up-and-coming spot. I know. I'm like, maybe we'll go live there. I don't know. And so then we have Rexburg, Idaho, which is like the Idaho girlies. I feel like that'll be a good spot. Yeah, Idaho's low-key so beautiful. I drove through there for a road trip, and I was amazed at all the green fields with the mountains and the cowbells.

Cows. I loved Idaho. I remember screaming out the window, I love Idaho. Yeah. It was a time. That'll be a fun one. I'm excited. And then Rhode Island. And I've never been there either. So yeah, just really trying to hit the spots that we've never gone to.

So now do you have like more of a team behind it? Yes. Or is it still just like you and you and the besties in the bed? So the besties, like it was a time, but like they had to do their own thing, you know, and it's so fair. So, yeah, they I will never be able to repay them for like, obviously, I had them helping out and they were getting paid. Of course, they weren't just like doing it for free. But yeah, I mean, they, you know, had their things to do and finish school and whatnot. So now I have like a team. I love that.

It's so cool because I feel like you can pour into it so much more when you have a good team behind you helping you with all the just like the tedious things. It's hard. Event planning is not an easy space at all. They're amazing. So cool. So cool. So now you cap it out. How many people per run club? We cap it around like 300, 350. Wow. I thought for some reason it was in the twos. 350 is crazy. It's insane. And they fill up quick, don't they? Yeah, within minutes, which I honestly don't know how.

That's so amazing. That is so cool. You should be so proud of yourself. It is so, so, so cool. It's honestly not me though. Like I know it's like I'm the organizer. Sure. I'm hosting, but like, it's not about me at all. Honestly, it's not about me. It's like these girls are moving their body on a Saturday morning. That's what it's about. It has nothing to do with me. So what's your favorite thing about it?

I like the maybe this is like materialistic, but I love like planning the gift bags. I think it's so fun. No, I don't think that's like that's just that's you. It's just fun. And it's like all my favorite brands are in that gift bag. And it's like maybe they're not even that special, but I just think it's fun. Like I love the swag bags. I think it's fun. No, I think that's so cool, too. And then you to make all of them is so impressive. And so now for Run Club, is it?

It used to be free to go. Is it still free to go? Wow, that's even cooler. Yeah, it's always awesome. Because I feel like if it gets to a point where it's so, there's such high demand, I don't know if you get to a point where you have to start charging, but that is so cool. And it's so special that...

You don't. No. I mean, honestly, I never wanted it to be like my followers were paying. It just feels like icky. I don't know. Yeah, no, I agree. I'm right there with you. Yeah, I want to do that. And where, like, you know, it's obviously, like, I'm fueling it all myself. So where it makes sense is, like...

I do like my brand sponsorships or brand deals through the run club. Like, Hey guys, like this is my favorite protein powder, which I genuinely love. Like I would never say yes to a brand or say yes to like a product to place in the gift bags that I didn't use and didn't love. And so it all just kind of like organically authentically like works together. And I feel like that's my best way of like supporting a brand support. Like it's just all kind of like, it is. I mean, think about it. 350 people in more are finding out about this and trying it. Like it's, it's such a,

Again, I'm just so inspired. It's like so cool that it all is possible and that it's something that anybody can attend if you're quick enough to get on the wait list. Anyone. Yeah, anybody who's listening, you guys have to sign up for a run club. Now I'm like really wanting to go tomorrow. Yes, please go. But what's...

What about for, let's say if I were to show up and I don't know how to run a mile, do people walk a little bit? People bring a stroller and their baby. People walk. There's cross-country girlies who are going six minute miles. I personally won't be doing that. You're like, not me. Every pace is welcome is my favorite way to put it. That is so cool. That is so cool.

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And now, okay, now just going back to running. Do you have tips for somebody who wanted to just start running? Yeah. Is it simply to just start or what else you got? Yeah. I mean, as much as you probably don't hear this, like it really is just like building your endurance. When I first tried running that, you know, spring, summer day in 2020, when I was back in Utah during lockdown, like I could not go more than 0.25 miles, like a fourth of a mile. Yeah.

that's me couldn't go that's where I'm at I was like wow I'm tapped out I'm done I did my work for the day like I'm I was done I was done um and now that you kind of like are able to like do that okay you can do you can do a quarter mile great that's what you can do tomorrow try and do half a mile next day try and do a quarter like three quarters a mile next day try and do a mile you just have to be consistent unfortunately unfortunately you have to be consistent and you have to keep trying

But you will build up the endurance. And it works for... Like, thanks for telling me everything I already knew and didn't want to hear. I'm like, you don't have the secret sauce? Where is it? Where's the secret key? I know, people always ask me and I'm like, girl, you're not going to want to hear this. You're not going to want to hear this, but it's what everybody says. You just have to be consistent and you have to push yourself. That's actually so funny. But yeah, no, and honestly, it works for the opposite too. Like,

there's been times where I can truly run 10 miles on the treadmill easy I can truly do it you know and then there's other days where I'm like well I haven't trained in like a couple weeks I can barely run a mile yeah and that's normal with anything if you're not pouring your time and energy into something you're not going to be as good at it when you try it again totally but that's life running will freaking finesse you bro

Like you have your cardio will go up and down based off like how much you're training and as much as you try and think you can, if you're not training. Like I did a marathon in Miami actually in January. You know, I was supposed to do the half marathon. It's a fun one. So me and my best friend, two of my best guy friends, they did the marathon two years ago, the Miami marathon. So me and my set, my best friend, we went to go watch them run this marathon.

And we watched them from this bridge while the sun was rising. And we were just so, I was like in tears and in awe about how many people were doing this marathon and how inspiring it was. And to see so many people pushing themselves and watching their loved ones and like carrying their loved ones and running in their, their whole fire suit and like pushing people in wheelchairs. I was,

I'm amazed at just human beings existing in that way. And I was like, I have to be a part of this. Have you ever done a race? No. So then me and Lissette go, oh, we're in. We're locked in. We're doing this. We're doing this. And I was determined. Like, I started posting TikToks that I was going to run this marathon. And my girls know that follow me. Like, a lot of the things I say I'm going to do, I don't follow through with. It's ADHD in me. It's just it.

It's kind of the way I've always been. You have a lot, dude. You have a lot on your plate. And it works because I always tell myself that God keeps me on the path that I'm meant to follow through with. Totally. But this, there's no excuse for that. I'm not blaming this one on God. This was all me. So, I mean, let's just say we're going to do it. I start posting about it. I'm like, guys, I'm for real. I'm not messing around with this. We trained for two months. I got up to five miles. Girl. All of a sudden, I was traveling like crazy. Get that back.

I'm not somebody that like travels and gets to a hotel and like goes and works out. I'm trying to become that person because it does feel good to move my body or just like go lift weights. Like I'm not, I don't do too much cardio, but my boyfriend's a trainer. So I'm lifting weights now and I love it. Yes. Oh, he's the best. But anyways, I started traveling too much and I'm like, I'm not, haven't been running. Lisette's still training at home and I'm like, she's going to beat me. And me and her love to make everything a competition, but like a fun, empowering one. I get home.

We both kind of just stopped training a little bit. And we started training a year before the marathon, the half. So we're like, we could just pick it back up in October or something. We didn't. She moved to Jacksonville, like halfway across the state. She's five hours away. She starts facing like she gets anxious for the first time in her life. Like this girl was so robot. Like she never felt anything except just like,

Yeah, I'm chill. I'm good. So she started getting anxious for the first time ever. And I was like, running might help you through this. But she's like, no, I can't do it. And I was like, okay, I'm out. And we both just kind of decided we weren't doing it anymore. And then...

Now I really want to do it again. You can do it. Dude, you can put, if you put your mind to it. I'm going to need you to hold me accountable. I'll text you every day. I'm going to need a text every day. I will actually do that. Go do this. I actually have a few people that I do that for. That's so cool. And do you have a, what do you use to train for yourself? Just your own mental training program? I have a trainer. Oh, that's so cool. Her name is at trackclubbabe on Instagram. Kim. She is amazing. That's cool. I feel like that would be something that would be really beneficial for me to have somebody who

100%. Like, really holds me accountable. It's, I mean, that's how I was when I did sports growing up. Like, I, or when I cheerleaded, cheerlead, cheerleaded? Whatever it is. Did cheerleading. My coach pushed me, you know, and I need that. Like, I'm, I lack the self-discipline. I personally do too. And yes, I'm sure those are things I could work on. They always are. We all have, you know, we all have our flaws. Yeah. And it would just be so cool. So that's something I would, I would look into for sure. But, I,

I am determined. Yeah. Girl, you should do one day. Like, I don't know if this is on your goals or your dreams list, but like make a, like a running coach app or something. I know. I've honestly thought about it, but I'm like,

I feel like there's so many other people who are so much better at it than me. I'm not saying no to it, but there's so many people who've like had their background, their college experience. They were like a D1 athlete. But there's always going to be that. There's always room for more. Like what, like who am I? You're Renee. No, like you have hosted run clubs around the country with 400 girls at almost every single one. Give yourself more credit. But you know what? Life's going to take you where it's meant to take you right now. Like, would you say the goal is to just keep run clubbing and keep

enjoying this chapter that you're in yeah I I don't know like I've been I've been always really hard at like the whole like you know how people like manifest and like okay I'm gonna manifest like these goals it's like I love doing that but I also kind of hate it I'm not like a new year's resolution girly I just I'm like let's just like see where God takes me and like try the hardest in every single moment possible and see what happens I love that um and so yeah I'm like I do want to

I guess you could say merch, but I also want to release sweatshirts that are truly me. Maybe it's run club dates or certain places we went. Oh my gosh, if you did like a... I have certain sayings that I like. So that's kind of in the works right now that I'm really excited about. And it would be cool too if at each run club... I'm over here making a business plan. No, honestly, you sell them there. Yeah, at each run club. And you do... You know how when...

People go artists go on tour. They sell like all the shirts with and you can get all the dates on the back of it for that year or that. Well, not that month because it's once a month. But no, totally. So cool. So just trying to figure out that. I mean, it's definitely going to take a lot more minds than me. And like, you know, maybe it's a creative director hiring someone from like a marketing. Just growing the no bad vibes. Just growing it. You know, I think it's awesome. And like, honestly, like I think next year or so, like I do want to like have a baby.

Oh my gosh. Whoa. Sorry. Honestly, I know that that's like a really big thing to just kind of drop, but I tell everyone that maybe I saw that on your story recently that you posted it, but I just, in that moment, I was like, God willing, like if God is like going to permit that and you know, I do want to have kids and I,

And I think it'd be fun to like transition. Maybe it's like more mom rock walk clubs. Like who knows? Renee's going to be nine months pregnant running, running four miles at a time. You know, it's funny. Cause I actually do think about that. Like,

I'm trying to time getting pregnant around like how would I do that with Run Club? Because like I'm sure I could do up to like eight months pregnant, seven months. Because they're both such big parts of your life. You know, like bringing a life into this world, huge. But Run Club is huge. It's your passion project and your purpose and it fills you so much. So I know you'll find a way to do both. I know I will. Like Connor can have a little carrier while I do the Run Club. Yeah, no. And eventually, you know, you go, you take a few months off of it.

Nobody's going to hate you. Nobody's going to kill you. No, no, of course. Like, the vibes will still be good. Yes. And then you bring it back, like, once the baby is old enough to, you know, come on the stroller and have a good time. And, like, it'll be so cool. God will always find a way. Yeah. And you'll reach so many more communities when you get to that point, too. And you and Connor have been together for how many years? We've been married three years. Whoa. Dating for four, yeah. That is so cool. That's so special. But going back to Connor, actually, I still want to know, like, what are your major differences? Because I feel like you're so, like...

I guess I don't see him often. So like in my head, he's kind of quiet and he just like works a lot, but he's like also the best. And you're just so loud and bubbly. Like you guys, are you different or are you both like that? That is such an interesting. Yeah. Wow. He. Okay. So I'm an anxious attachment style. Oh, me too, girl. Girl. All right.

Aren't we all? Aren't we? I think everybody. Every girl. All of us at 23. It's just in our blood. Connor is mature. He's a grown man. He's a grown man. He's more of an avoidant attachment style. He's not anxious, right? Like he's not. He's also very like dialed in like every single way. In my personal opinion, like he's not immature. He doesn't. He doesn't.

Yeah, he's just very focused on what his goals are. And he's not someone who would like... If I wanted to tell him about something like gossip or I was like, you know, this happened. He would be like, let's not talk about other people. I love that. And I'm like, oh! You're like, no. I gotta call Ella. You know? And I'm like, I gotta call Ella. Yeah. And so, no, I mean...

He, yeah, he doesn't, he's very, like, you know. He's, like, level-headed with a good head on his shoulder. He's very level-headed. And that's really good for, in my opinion, me and, like, a lot of girls, I think, to have someone who's, like, so, like, your head on straight. No, I really agree. And it's, he gives that vibe, you know? I'm glad, yeah. Like, he just, he's got his priorities straight. He's, like, I care about my career, my love. Yeah. And my family and God. My family and God. And, like, that's beautiful. That's kind of it, yeah. It's so beautiful.

to see people like that because like I'll recognize sometimes in myself I'm like why do I care about that you know or why does what this person said to that person have anything to do with me why do I need to talk about it that's a goal I've made for myself recently not that I I don't ever like sit around and gossip and talk shit about people but like sometimes I want to know what's the happening in the pop culture and the whatever it is and I'll just chit chat with the girls and I'm like

That doesn't matter. Is this necessary right now? It doesn't affect you? It has nothing to do with my life. It's not adding any value, but still fun to have mindless moments like that. But... That is... That's like...

A friend of mine asked me a question today. What's your favorite sin? And I thought it was such an interesting question. Wow. And I was like, honestly, probably just mindless banter like that. And I'm just like, I don't need that. I don't need that. I don't need to talk about a situation. That is such a cool question. Or I don't need to... So yeah, just definitely heads down, focus on yourself vibes. And I love that about him because it helps me so much more and realize what's important. He'll always be like, okay, one, does this matter? Because...

does it change the way I think about you? No. Does it change the way God thinks about you? No. So why does it matter? I love that. And to have that balance too. That really down. Somebody put that on a t-shirt. Can we get Connor on here? Next time I'm here, you're both coming on. He's amazing. Yeah. What?

I just was going to ask something and I totally forget what it was. Oh, I was going to say it's good that you guys have that balance where you can still be you and still have those moments and still be a girly. Yes. And have somebody who's like, okay, let's come back to where we're at, what's important here, and move on. But talking about God, are you...

Yes, I'm Mormon. Right? Yeah. That is so cool. Yeah. So, I mean, the exact term for it would be like member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We're Christians. And we believe fully in the Bible. But, yeah, we have another book or testament of God that we believe to be true called the Book of Mormon.

Book of Mormon. That is so cool. So do you ever feel like with modeling and social media, like not pulled away from it's maybe the wrong term, but like, do you ever feel like in your head you battle with like, is this right or not? Because isn't the Book of Mormon very tedious? You know, I think that's an interesting question. Honestly, I wish that I could tell you like I do battle with it, but no, my faith is my most important thing to me. And at all costs, like I've always said, like if anything came the way of that, I would completely,

disconnect from it. I love that. If a friend or family member or social media or modeling was pulling me away from what I know to be true in my heart, I would be like, this is not good for me. That's so beautiful. I really love that. I've had some really crazy experiences in my life that

that I probably wouldn't even like share honestly, but to know and like know God truly and have a relationship with him. It's something that tops everything else. And once you've made that relationship, like you know that he's guiding you. And when you do feel uncomfortable about something, it's not for no reason. There's no like weird coincidence that your heart and you know you're not supposed to be in that place at that time or having that conversation. And it's just so cool. It's so special. Yeah. I want my life to be led.

by him. It's beautiful. And I want to be an instrument. It shows. I mean, it really does show that you let him speak through you. I am not perfect by any means. No. I am so, like, natural man. I'm so, you know. And none of us will ever be. But, like, it's so beautiful that your heart's open enough to let him live through you and share, like, his word in your way and just build communities and be a good person and share love and happiness because we lack so much of it. Yeah.

And it's just cool. It's really cool. Growing up a lot, I feel like from like, I mean, from when I was like 18, I was so different, you know, and I truly know him and like I know where I'm going. And I know that like no matter how bad something gets, like he'll always be there. And that's comforting. It's cool. Yeah. I keep saying it's cool, but it really is. It really is. It's just, it's amazing. But when you, so you grew up Mormon probably. Did you feel like there was ever a point where you didn't want to be or you always wanted

loved it in your heart because I feel for me with my relationship with God, I grew up a Christian and there, there were points in my life where I'm like, what's the point of this? Like I hadn't actually, I didn't know Jesus the way that I do now, you know, like I just followed a religion that I was born into, thought it was so cool and awesome. But I had never, yeah, I had never experienced it for myself. Um,

until I've gotten to even these last few years of my life. Like, and it's something that I'm still really discovering. But when I was younger, I was like, this is kind of stupid. I'm not going to pour into it. Like, did you ever have moments like that? I mean, I would skip church every Sunday, not every Sunday, but we'd go to in and out or like miss the lessons, you know, with my friends. I mean, I was in high school. I was dumb. I was like, whatever, you know, I totally had that. I think that it's normal to have that. I feel like it's almost not normal to have that. Like you really need to, there's a barrier. And what I loved that my parents did, which I will personally do to my kids is like,

I'll take them to church every Sunday but if there's ever time they're like I don't want to go okay stay home yeah don't don't force it on them because then because my mom would always be like I'd be like I don't want to go I'm sick she knew I wasn't sick and I was like I mean that was me with school I'm like sorry mom I have a tummy ache she's like girl you're fine you're fine whatever whatever yeah and I wouldn't go and I would skip I would skip a lot you know and I only went because my friends went you know and my mom was like okay well I'm going but have fun you know and I was like

Wait, she's going. I kind of want to go now. It's like when your parents tell you to do the dishes and you were already going to do them. You're like, well, now I'm not going to touch them. You always want it if you don't have to be there. Yeah, no. And so I loved that my mom did that. She never forced it on me. That's so cool. And I just naturally kind of wanted to go for it. But it was definitely when I was in L.A. alone. And I had no one to tell me to read my scriptures or pray. I had none of that. And so...

because of that, I think that was the first time that I actually had to learn and gain a testimony for myself and gain a relationship with him. Because before then it was kind of like handed to you. It was handed to me, you know, it was like the cereal that was, yeah, I went to church on Sunday. I did all these things that everyone else was doing, you know? And so that was the first time that I would say it was like almost reborn. Um,

There was one moment specifically, and I'm going to be fast. I know we're like over time here. Oh, no, you're so fine. There was one specific time that I was actually at a club. I loved clubbing when I first moved to LA. And I was like, wait, I can see it. I can see you dancing on the table. Girl, I was like. And that TikTok dance, you know the. Yeah, I was at the club like Wednesday through Saturday.

Like probably on my best moment, like I was like on a different wavelength. Like up until 18. It's an era that you have to go through. I was talking about this with my mom. If you don't go through it, you don't learn from it. You don't realize what you're actually made for until you try everything. Exactly. Yeah. Experience is great. And I wasn't drinking or anything. Not that that would be bad. But I just, yeah, I was just having a fun time, you know, with some Red Bull and just having a good time. I love that. I remember a guy comes up to me and my screensaver at the time was a picture of Jesus.

And he comes up to me and he's like, why are you here? And I was like almost offended. I was like, what do you mean why am I here? And he was like, your picture, your screensaver is a picture of Jesus Christ. Like, you know you don't belong here. And that goosebumps. Dude, that really, I've like spoke about that in church too because that was like, oh my gosh, Renee, like what are you doing? Not that it's bad to be at the club, right? No. But like, it's what intentions you have. Wednesday through Saturday, girl, come on. Like, you're better than that. And also, it's the intentions that you have like when you're there. Totally. I mean, clubbing for me,

I like talking to people too much. And, like, I think if I was at a club in Europe and the music was awesome and I was just dancing and having a good time, like, that would be different. But, yeah, Wednesday through that Saturday, you know, that's a question. Yeah, that's a question. And that, like, wasn't the Provo, Utah girly that, like, everyone knew, you know? Like I said, like, up until 18, questionable. Like, I was just, like, kind of free spirit, whatever. And, yeah, that really just shifted everything for me. I was like, dang, this is very...

Yeah. Like this is not it. And that's a crazy story. That was like God came up to you there and said, he like, what are you doing? Go home, girl. And so, yeah, that was kind of the first moment that I was like,

okay what am I doing here because I had no guidance no one was telling me I could do whatever I wanted yeah you were free I wasn't really like going to church honestly I was kind of chilling and then I was like yeah this is not it yeah well you realize how much you miss in miss having that connection and that relationship and I think that's important for every single person to go through you have to find it within yourself you cannot have someone gift you a testimony you cannot have someone tell you about something like you have to go through it and I I feel that too even when I there

There was a point, I don't remember what it was, maybe a couple years ago, where I really wanted to, you know, learn more about Jesus and my religion that I'm so much a part of, you know? But, and other people would tell me their stories and, like, how, you know, Jesus has changed their life. And I'm like, okay, cool, but that's not my life, you know? Like, and I, it's hard for me to have...

have faith in something that I couldn't see with my own hands. But it really just comes down to accepting it in your heart. And then that's when you start to hear and see things. Having the faith. Yeah. He's there. It's crazy how much it changes. The second that you stop questioning if, if, if, if, it's a whole new world. It's so cool. It is a whole new world. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. I love that. I love that we dabbled into that for a second because it's something that's been newer for me to especially talk about.

But Gabe really got me closer to God in this past year. That is so cool. So it's cool. It's cool. There's nothing better than like your person bringing you to that. Yeah. Or bringing you to anything. Anything. Like you were saying with Connor. I think that's so special. Like that is just like, and that just that bond that you're going to have because of that is just, it's magnificent. Mm-hmm.

And that's why I feel like doing things with the person you love is so cool in life or being inspired by each other. But still, I actually wrote this down somewhere on my little list. I think it's so cool that you and Connor have done so many things kind of together and you like work together in so many aspects of your life, but you still have this

such individual things. And that's, that's so important and very inspiring. I agree as well. Like, I don't know. Yeah, I totally agree. Thank you. You're welcome. You have to, otherwise you, it's great to become one, but still do. Yeah. Especially if you're independent, right? Like, yeah. You know, I, when I first got with Gabe, I was like, whoa, like I have to share my life with somebody, but now it's the coolest, most beautiful thing ever. And I love it. Um, it's cool.

What else did I want to ask? I'm scrolling through my little question thing here. Is there anything that's like burning on your heart that you want to share? Absolutely not. You're like, I said everything I have. You covered it. I probably already overshared and was like... No, there's no such thing as oversharing. This podcast is so for the girls. It's like the safest place ever. Dude, I love that you do this. Thank you so much. You're welcome. I'm so glad that you could come. I have two last questions. Let's do it. These are like...

They're kind of hard if you make them hard, but they also can be simple. Like what's the best advice you've ever received?

Or good advice you've received. Best advice. Oh my gosh. I wish I prepared for this. No, it's the hardest question ever. And I've, I've been asked it before and I'm like, I, I don't know. I don't know. I think it's like, maybe it's Elton John who says it. And I guess it's not Elton John. John did not tell me this. Right. Actually, let me tell you a whole nother story. There's a quote that says like, if you, and I guess maybe this isn't even advice, but to me it is, I really take this heavy with my heart. Like,

If you say you can or you say you can't, both are correct. Whoa. Doesn't that like kind of eat? Kind of like give me a little spark inside of me. Like, for example, something in my life I'm currently thinking about. Okay, like do you think, Renee, that you're going to be able to like still be, you know, doing your own thing once you have a kid? Or is that going to be over? You decide, Renee. It's going to still happen. I can still do Run Club. I can still post my life on social media. I love. I truly believe that. Therefore, I will find a way. Yeah. You know? It's true.

If there's a well, there's a way. If you have the attitude like, I don't think it's going to happen. Like, nope, nope. Like, I don't want to do it. I'm not going to do it. You know? Yeah. I mean, your thoughts become your things. Totally. And I was talking about this recently. I feel like I talk about this all the time because I like attach to the things in my life that aren't good. And I'm like, well, I can't do this because of this. Like, girl, maybe if you just switch it up in your mind, you would be able to. We have so much power. Totally. And that's not even your fault, though, because like humans just fall.

focus on the negativity because that's just how we are. We're conditioned. Yeah. We're conditioned to like, you know, survival mode all the time. Like what is currently like, what is currently at war with me right now? You know? And it's like, you think of those things. It's so, I really like that. I really like that. So my followup to the best advice is what's the worst advice? Oh gosh. I don't know.

Maybe the worst advice I've ever had is, like, people saying, like, well, just do what they're doing and copy it. Or, like, just do what so-and-so is doing and just, like, find your... Or, like, do it in some way. I honestly...

I don't agree with that. I know I agree with what you just said. Heck no. No, no, no. It's impossible to, I think, really grow as an individual if you're following a different individual's growth, you know, because we are all so different. We all have different. Even if you're so similar to somebody, even if somebody else wants to start run clubs or whatever it may be, if you do that,

When you make it your own and you make it yourself, it will be everything you want it to be and more. But if you're trying to do it because somebody else has it and you've seen like what it can do for them. Totally. The reasons are wrong and the intention is there and your heart's not there and it's not going to grow. It's not going to blossom. Like you have to do things with passion and with passion.

For yourself. Totally. You know? Yeah, no, I totally agree with that. I'm like, if someone, for example, like they say they want to start a run club and they want to like kind of go down the path I've gone down, but they don't even like running. Yeah. And it shows. But maybe they love book clubs and they want to do this massive book club worldwide. But they never did that because they were trying to do like run club that they didn't even like running. You know, it's like find your heart. Find your thing and freaking go for it. No one is stopping you, you know? And also like I...

yeah and also for the record like girls start the run clubs because I love it and I see it and I'm like let's freaking go that's so cool yeah like everyone has so many unique like talents and attributes of them that we are also different it's like a fingerprint like we're also different so use that like use your fingerprint use your like attributes you know and your talents and your gifts and like put

Put that into the world because like the world wants to see that the world needs to hear that. And so everyone is so different. And that's the most amazing part about like this earth. I love it. And I feel like so many people take their things that make them different and their unique secret little hobbies or loves or talents. And they're like, I'm just going to put this away because I'll be more successful doing this. No, no, no.

No. Do it. You're really good at that, honestly. I feel like I always see your posts and you're like doing some random hobby or thing that like, you know, you're so good at that. I honestly like look up to you in that way a lot. Thank you. No, anything I find interest in, and I used to think this was a weakness of mine, and there's like, there's still the haters that are like, girl, you need to finish the things you start. Girl, I'll block them. I know, but at the same time, like,

Everything that I've half started has gotten me to the point that I'm at now and like I just think that it is so important that even if you have like a small part of you and your heart that is like maybe this would be fun to try. Try it. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. The world keeps spinning and you find something new and you could do that your whole life or you get to something that ends up becoming the thing that sticks and you do that forever. Like life is going to take you where it's meant to take you and if you don't try things, you'll live in regret and it's so much better

to just try it than spend your life wishing that you did try it. I totally agree. And I think that's a really cool note to end us off at. Yeah. And thank you so much for coming on here. Thank you so much for having me. That was fun. I had a good time. I love seeing you in California. Yeah. Last thing I want to ask for the people, where can we find you?

Besides Run Club. A tick. Wait, actually find me? No, not like, no, give me your address. Like where can we, what's your favorite place to post and where can we find more about Run Club? TikTok, No Bad Vibes, Instagram. So it's literally just like N-O-E, Bad Vibes. Love it. No Bad Vibes. And yeah, TikTok, Renee No, Instagram, Renee No. That's where I'll be. Cool. Perfect. Everybody follow along and I will talk to you guys next Monday. Thank you guys.