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Hermes Homerica: They're Making an Odyssey Movie & We Have Thoughts

2024/12/31
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Liv: 克里斯托弗·诺兰执导的《奥德赛》电影改编令人兴奋,因为它似乎会尝试完整地改编这部作品,而不是仅仅取材于其中一部分。好莱坞对经典作品的改编常常过于“白化”,缺乏多样性。马特·达蒙是饰演奥德修斯最不合适的选择,甚至比本·阿弗莱克还差。这部电影的选角存在严重的白人中心主义问题,对古代世界的刻画过于单一。这部电影的选角更像是基于演员的名气,而不是基于角色的匹配度。虽然对这部电影的选角感到失望,但这类荒诞的电影偶尔出现也未尝不可。马特·达蒙饰演奥德修斯是令人沮丧的,这将成为未来几个月里反复被提及的话题。马特·达蒙是饰演奥德修斯最糟糕的选择。基于目前的选角,这部电影很可能会呈现一个平庸且缺乏创意的西方中心主义版本。虽然不喜欢对艺术作品进行批评,但对马特·达蒙的选角感到非常不满。作者认为自己比克里斯托弗·诺兰更了解《奥德赛》,并建议他重新考虑选角或改编其他作品。虽然这部电影有可能很搞笑,但作者更在意的是好莱坞对经典作品的西方中心主义解读和缺乏多样性。作者希望好莱坞能够选择地中海地区的演员来饰演这些角色,而不是总是选择白人演员。作者认为这部电影的选角反映了西方中心主义的观点,将《奥德赛》变成了西方宣传工具。好莱坞在电影制作中存在歧视性行为,例如在《角斗士2》中删除了巴勒斯坦女演员的角色。好莱坞的选角行为令人失望,作者甚至认为自己可以胜任奥德修斯的扮演者。这部电影的选角与20年前的《特洛伊》相比,并没有任何进步。 Michaela: 《奥德赛》的叙事视角是其魅力之一,因为它通过奥德修斯的视角呈现故事,并具有不可靠叙述者的特点。虽然克里斯托弗·诺兰执导《奥德赛》的改编本身令人期待,但马特·达蒙的选角令人失望。尽管对马特·达蒙的选角感到失望,但仍然对这部电影抱有期待。对演员阵容中部分角色的猜测令人担忧,特别是安妮·海瑟薇饰演卡吕普索的可能性。虽然对马特·达蒙的选角不满,但对其他演员的选角总体上还可以接受。这部电影的选角反映了好莱坞对经典作品的西方中心主义解读,缺乏多样性。有很多演员比马特·达蒙更适合饰演奥德修斯。对电影中女性角色的猜测也存在问题,特别是赞达亚饰演卡吕普索的可能性。汤姆·赫兰德饰演忒勒马科斯是不错的选择,但前提是奥德修斯的扮演者不是马特·达蒙。卢皮塔·尼永奥饰演塞西莉亚本可以很出色,但前提是这部电影的选角能够真正体现多样性。卢皮塔·尼永奥更适合饰演佩内洛普。对电影中角色的猜测,例如罗伯特·帕丁森饰演波塞冬,缺乏对原著的理解。人们对《奥德赛》的解读常常忽略了奥德修斯并非完美英雄的事实。马特·达蒙是一个缺乏深度和复杂性的演员,不适合饰演奥德修斯。希望这部电影能够出乎意料地好,但对选角的失望之情难以消除。如果这部电影能够真正展现奥德修斯自私和阴险的一面,那么马特·达蒙的选角或许可以被接受,但可能性很小。这部电影很可能不会呈现出令人惊喜的方面,而是会遵循预期的套路。如果这部电影改编的是《阿尔戈英雄纪》,那么马特·达蒙饰演杰森或许是一个不错的选择。奥德修斯是一个复杂而有缺陷的角色,他不一定是道德上高尚的英雄。荷马史诗中的英雄形象并非完美无缺,奥德修斯也是如此,这正是其魅力所在。作者对好莱坞电影的期望值不高,认为《角斗士2》是一部轻松愉快的电影。

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Why is the casting of Matt Damon as Odysseus in Christopher Nolan's Odyssey adaptation so controversial?

The casting of Matt Damon as Odysseus is controversial because many critics and fans believe he is not suitable for the role. They argue that Damon is too reliable and lacks the complexity and Mediterranean appearance required for Odysseus. Additionally, the casting is seen as a step back in terms of diversity and representation, resembling the whitewashed casting of past Hollywood adaptations of ancient Greek stories.

Why is the Odyssey considered a suitable subject for a Christopher Nolan film?

The Odyssey is considered a suitable subject for a Christopher Nolan film because of its narrative structure, which includes elements of time manipulation and unreliable narration. These elements align well with Nolan's style, as seen in films like Inception and Interstellar, which also play with time and narrative complexity.

Why is the casting of women of color as divine seductresses in the Odyssey adaptation seen as problematic?

The casting of women of color as divine seductresses, such as Calypso and Circe, is seen as problematic because it reinforces stereotypes and limits the roles of women of color to seductive and otherworldly characters. Critics argue that this casting choice lacks nuance and fails to represent the complexity of these characters and the diverse Mediterranean setting of the Odyssey.

Why is the prospect of a diverse cast for the Odyssey adaptation important to the hosts?

A diverse cast for the Odyssey adaptation is important to the hosts because it would more accurately reflect the Mediterranean setting and the diverse populations of the ancient world. They argue that casting actors who more closely resemble the characters' backgrounds would enhance the authenticity and cultural representation of the film.

Why does the host suggest that Matt Damon could be a better fit for Jason in the Argonautica instead of Odysseus?

The host suggests that Matt Damon could be a better fit for Jason in the Argonautica because the character of Jason, like Odysseus, is a leader but with a different set of traits. Jason's role in the Argonautica might align better with Damon's reliable and straightforward acting style, making it a potentially more suitable and interesting casting choice.

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In a special New Years Eve episode, Michaela and Liv discuss the news that Christopher Nolan is making an adaptation of the Odyssey... For the first time, this was recorded in person so the audio isn't ideal but there will be video available on the podcast's YouTube) in the next couple of days.

CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.

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