God's Calling: You Can('t) Walk in Your Purpose and Rest
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Good day, good people. Shout out to you for tuning in to another episode of the Imperfectly Phenomenal Woman podcast. If you're new here, what's up? I am Lauren. I am the host and the producer of this pod. And in each episode, I interview different women about limiting beliefs that hold us back from living fully and authentically. And so in this episode, I'm going to be interviewing Shonda Gary, who is a

Shout out to Shonda because I met her through this podcast like years ago through a DM on Instagram. I messaged her. She messaged me. We just kept on going. And now that is my sister, basically.

So we're going to be talking about this limiting belief that you can't rest in the entrepreneurial journey. And also we decided to combine two topics. So it's that and then also the limiting belief that you can't walk in your purpose, even when God's calling. So let's get into it. This is Shonda Gary, and this is why she chose this topic.

When we first originally decided to plan these episodes, I think it really speaks to where I was at. So the I can't can walk in purpose was like the accelerator had not started. And I had no participants in sight.

I love that actually. Nobody in sight. So it was a struggle of like, God, you gave me this vision. You gave me even the curriculum. Like I have this notebook I've been walking around with. We built the platform out. And so, so where are the people? And you just had to remind me to trust.

to trust and to continue to be obedient. Like any people may mistake, like if God is telling you to wake up at 5am, get out of that bed because you don't know it's not for you. And I, when I tell you half of the times where I kind of like, I'm not, I'm not living in the past or like trying to condemn myself, but I'm like the times where I just decided to flip over and not wake up

in the season where I was building the accelerator, which probably was like a year and a half. - Yeah, I was about to ask, when did you have the idea? - I got the download. So it's a whole story behind that. I own Salt and Light Agency, we're a brand research and brand strategy agency for marginalized founders in their communities. I went through a rebrand.

And one of the designers chose Salted Faith as the color. And that's when God gave me the download of Salted Faith Accelerator. He told me that step one was to change my license plates. When I got those license plates in, the next day I got the download. And that's obedience. Like, what if I didn't? So fast forward to when we first spoke, I felt like,

I'm like, it was a struggle. It was like, oh, God, you gave this. I'm trying to walk in purpose, but it's hard because I'm not seeing anything. But also, too, he had to he had to teach me like, oh, you think I'm going to have you launch this salted faith and you not have salted faith. And that's the bold belief that God will deliver every single promise on my life. And that's what he gave me. And I was all merged and everything.

So I had to walk it out before it could even go live. What does that mean for you, Salted Faith? Boldly believing that God is going to deliver on every single promise that he's given on my life.

Like boldly, not just timidly, not just thinking like, oh yeah, God said this. No, like really believing. And you know, faith, Hebrews 11, 1, faith are things that we can't see. Like we can't actually touch them. It's just having this trust. And if we unpack faith a little bit more, it's trust and heart posture. We have the ability to, I entered my office this morning, flipped on the light switch. I had faith that the light was going to come on. Yep.

Because I was able to see it. But the walk with God is switching the light switch on and not seeing any activity, but believing that something is happening. I love that analogy. Because I'm in a space right now where I flip the light switch and I'll see nothing. And I'm like, should I turn it off and turn it back on?

You know? And I just want to keep flicking it and hoping that the light just gonna turn on now. But I'm sitting here because there was another thing I read earlier, like yesterday or something, and it was like patient endurance. That's the hard part. I'm like, all right, God, patient endurance, patient endurance, patient endurance. But I'm a little tired of the patient part. But also, too, people don't understand, like, as much as this stuff, the stuff that you're working on, Lauren, the stuff I'm working on, it's...

Not about us, but is about it. It's about a healing journey. It's about cleaning up in us, being more being made more into God's image. And Jesus is the blueprint. So what he's trying to do every day is clean us up. Jesus is probably the only most patient person that walk this earth.

But it's a constant thing. That's why we have new mercies every single day. So that patience thing is God. I truly believe God's not going to release the next thing until you can get this heart posture thing right. And that's why it's daily. It's not like, oh, I'm going to go to church on Sunday or go to my small group or go to this. And the other days I'm not going to be in alignment. That's not how it works. It's a constant trust in him every single day.

And that looks different. Some days it don't look pretty. I'm about to say it sounds exhausting. It don't look pretty. But once we start to see, I think once we see the doors unlock and the favor, I always say this, and I told this to my cohort, favor is not fair. Favor is not fair, but I have a lot of favor on my life. It's not fair because it's supernatural. So even down to this,

God said, give it to these women for free, but still give them the same quality. And I'm like, okay, God, you're going to open. He opened every single door I needed. And that's where Assaulted Faith actually started to actually come to life. And that's what segway into that new, that other topic of like, I can't rest in this entrepreneurial journey because I really think that

we have to look at rest so differently from a spiritual lens. - All right, so let's talk about rest a little bit then. How would you describe your process at first? Do you feel like you were resting at all or? - I think girl, when I tell you, I was resting practically. Like I don't think it took me through a season of like,

it was quiet. I was like, why is it so quiet? Like, God, nothing's really going on. You're giving me this and that. The agency was flowing. I had projects and there was just like this rest, but it was rest to actually be at his feet, be in his word. And it was just like a still season. And it went for a long time. And I'm like, what's going on? Wait, I have a question. I want to understand that better. So it was a still season, but are you saying you still had stuff going on? Yeah. That was your saying? Okay, got it. It felt like

it felt like, because you know when you get a project and you get a download and it can be very fast paced. Yeah. This was more so like I'm getting a task once a week. And it's like, okay, I'm, I had to practice patience. So it was like a stillness. Got it. But the stillness also too is being able to hear. And I think he definitely took all the chaos away so I could hear what he really wanted me to do and to prepare. But also too, I had to rest because the spiritual warfare is real. It's real. Yeah.

When God has called you to bring 12 women together that believe that this was their God-given vision, the enemy's not happy. So I spent a long time fasting, praying,

Just really learning, I would say, war tactics to come up against the spiritual warfare. But like, I still have to rest in all of this. And that's even challenging in itself. Absolutely. But resting is 1 Peter 5, 7, casting all my cares and anxieties. That's the word that came up for me was anxiety. Because I think for me, I've been getting more of this. I'm taking my time away.

with what I know I have in a very different way than I originally was. At first I had an actual deadline because I had a grant and so I needed to give them something. So I was like pushing and pushing and pushing and grinding and going and just, you know, I was, I was,

on it we would wake up at four in the morning get my stuff starting to work then go to my regular day job then attempt to do some more after six but child that sent me into a burnout severe burnout um then the deadline for that passed and now I am in this like

chill walk where I truly am getting downloads like so infrequently, honestly. And I'm trying to just like allow myself to go with that. But that's also anxiety inducing because I'm like, I want to get it done. I don't want this to take forever. Like the patience, the patient part is hard. And so I've been doing a little bit every now and then. And like I texted you yesterday and

It's been a process because this is also not a small thing. It's like about grief. So it can get really heavy. But I have realized, especially with yesterday, I got to the point where I was like, if I'm a do this, I got to do this. Like I got to do it for real and make it super high quality and beautiful.

That's not where my mind was for a really long time. It was very much in this is a learning thing. And yes, this is a learning thing, but this is going to be a real, real, real high quality piece at the end of this too. So the patience was really important, I think, but it gave me anxiety, those in-betweens when I'm not getting downloads.

Yeah. And I think that if we go back to the Old Testament, we think about King Solomon and him building God's temple. Everything was so intentional and it took a long time because if we're made in God's image, of course, there's intentionality in the building of us, the cleaning of us.

And I think some people get anxiety because when you go through a period of hearing so much from God, like download, download, you're like, it can feel like a drug. No, but really though, seriously though. Okay, I'm ready, I'm ready. And then it's like nothing.

And then it's like, okay, so what I have found in that, in the silence, he's working on you. And that's when I discovered that in the building, you can build a thing for other people, but also in the building, he's renewing you. He's putting you on the potter's wheel. He's perfecting you to his image. And I think people forget that. So it's not by happenstance that you're working on this big project around grief,

Because there may be pockets of places where you still need to heal. Even with this accelerator, me being an entrepreneur, I'm listening to things week over week. But I'm being stretched into a new dimension as an entrepreneur, a faith-driven entrepreneur. Right. Because I started here. And I'm like, oh, I'm benefiting from this and hearing people coming to speak. But also, too, he's doing a new thing. I mean, he's having to stretch my faith.

Because I can't sit up here and tell other people to have faith if my faith isn't being stretched out.

I can't, and it's a heavy conviction because I can't sit and talk in front of people and say, oh no, you got this girl. No, I'm going to be super real. No, I actually struggle with the spirit of comparison week two because I didn't want to come and speak in front of y'all because my home girl knocked it out the park. And that's real. It's confessing. And it's actually bringing things to the surface that have been lying dormant and addressing those things because it's,

Yes, you went through a grieving period, but there are some things that became locked up that God's going to bring to the surface. And it's not fun. Oh, no. No, it's not. It's not fun, but it's so healing. Yeah. And it's not for us. It's for other people. The testimony is for other people. I keep trying to remind myself of that because I keep telling myself, and I think I messaged you this yesterday. It's like, why is this my story?

I don't want this one. You have to have it because God thought it. I don't want it. He thought even down to, people have to understand like God created you

specifically to be you and it's for a reason and when you flow and you're in alignment with God you start to see like oh he gave me this personality for a reason this for a reason and some of the personality attributes have been pimped out by the devil but like and that's when people start to like hate different things about themselves I'm like no don't put your mouth on yourself because God created you perfectly in his image and

for an assignment, but if you can actually be still aligned with him, he will start to show you like, Lauren, why do you have this such grand personality just to talk to any stranger? Or how can you see the beauty in like these birds just sitting on your windowsill? Yo, why were they staring at me like that? Rude. That was a different conversation. But yeah.

is you have a personality you have this personality for a reason and even how you're serving at church and showing up so but in all this is still the healing process for you it's a cycle it's a healing process for you so you can have a testimony to share with other people to give god glory so people can come into the things of god that's all it is well i want to talk about purpose

Because that was another piece of the thing, right? So, you know what was interesting? Pastor asked me, you know, I don't know him like that. And so it was during like new members class. And so I went up just to say hi and introduce myself. The first thing he said was, do you know your purpose? And I was like,

And so what does purpose mean to you? Because one of the limiting beliefs was I can't walk in my purpose, but what is purpose? So just from a spiritual standpoint, my old pastor when I lived in D.C. broke it down very practically and I still use it. You have a 1A and 1B purpose. 1A is to, and this is all of our purpose, is to bring people back to God. That's it.

1B is how you're going to do it. Okay, now I see it better then. That breakdown is easier for me to comprehend. So the thing is, is that people think a job is a purpose. They think, oh, I'm being a doctor or I'm being this. That's a vehicle to drive the purpose. So me having salt and light, I may not have salt and light in 10 years, but this is the vehicle I'm driving because I'm driving purpose. And 1A is the final destination. Mm-hmm.

Our routes in the streets and the paths that we take are a little bit different, but being that we're part of one body, we still are going to one destination. And so that's how I view purpose. Now, some people don't understand purpose.

the gas that needs to be put in the gas tank to drive the car for purpose. And those are the things that God's trying to like, what it may be a barrier where it may be like, oh, I have imposter syndrome. That's a barrier for filling up your love tank. So you can drive in purpose. You can actually believe you can drive the car. There may be like anxiety. That's

That may not even allow you to get in the car and put the key in the ignition. True. So this is why we have to cast on every single thought and submit them onto God because he has already given us the blueprint of how he wants us to show up. And that's in the fruits of the spirit. So I feel like this is my personal take. The fruits of the spirit are the driving forces to drive our individual purposes, right?

So right now I'm on a faith journey. Mm-hmm.

So my purpose right now, and I do have a very specific journey, I mean, specific purpose, but it's all embedded in this faith. Like God's showing me faith because that is my field to get me to save a soul, whether it's to plant or to water, he's going to grow it. So does that make sense? It does. I had another question for you. So what are like the top two things

barriers for you filling up your tank to get into your car? What were some of the barriers for you? Perfectionism was one. Got you. One, I did an exercise earlier this year and it's three lessons learned from 2024. And one of the top lesson was take off the mask. Perfectionism is a kryptonite.

It is because that's me saying, "God, I don't trust you. I want to just take control of everything." So when

continue to take it off, put it back on, take it on, put it back on, it's still going to show up because I'm still human. But I had to get to the root of that and why. And while yeah, perfectionism did help in some ways, quote unquote, it's still limited. Like it, it, it was, I was able to push Shonda's bounds and get, but it led to burnout. But when I stopped, I allowed God to start

and that's when i'm like oh yeah taking this thing off is actually really good i always tell people like i'm actually really excited to say that i'm weak i love that we so weak because yes when i stopped it allowed god to start child we gotta stop y'all gotta stop listen stop it stop it stop stop it now just stop it just stop it we we love to carry like

I'm a whole visual person. So it's like, it's almost like I have this book bag on and I was throwing bricks at

in this book bag. And I was just like walking and God's like, I can take it from you. And I'm like, no, I got it. I got it. I got it. And then a book bag, and this is a burnout, it busts open and you like on the side of the street, like, okay, I still got these bricks. What do I do with them? And God's like, no, give them to me. I'm going to take them. And I'm actually going to give you a lighter load. The lighter load is to take the book bag away. I'm going to give you strength to walk

This because it's we have to remember it's not a sprint. It's a marathon I'm gonna give you everything you need to walk this thing out and I'm right here with you. Mm-hmm So I don't know if you peep my face when you said it was it must have connect well It's because a part of the show that I was making There was a scene I was literally thinking book bag the whole time right before you said it like literally the word book bag and

And there was a scene where I wanted little me, like the book bag was such a big piece of this thing. And I'm probably gonna turn it into a short, just like a little me short. And like whenever I would try to make that scene, I would start crying.

And she would just have so much in her backpack and you couldn't tell, you wouldn't at the beginning, you wouldn't notice the importance of the backpack in it. But then once you get to the end, she like lets go of what's in her backpack, puts it in the river, blah, blah, blah. So when you, as soon as you said backpack, I was like, stop. It's real. And also too, I think all of us need to examine what's in our backpack and what are we wearing? And it's not like,

It's hard because you do, it's not like you just empty out the backpack. You're taking the thing one by one and you're literally handing each brick to God. But each brick, one brick may be anxiety. One may be fear. One may be I'm not good enough. Or it's just these, these, it's these core beliefs that came from somewhere. Yep. Well, let's talk about that a little bit. So,

breaking down this podcast a little bit, right? So one, you said one of the things you take out of your backpack is I'm not good enough. One thing that I learned, there was a point where I got to like 100 episodes or whatever. I was like, there's got to be a through line between all of these conversations that I'm having with people. Like, what's the thing? And I realized that the through line is really people just don't think they're good enough.

Yeah. That's at the root of literally every single limiting belief. And I thought to myself when I realized that, I was like, that's not good enough. That finding, that finding of not good enough is not a good enough finding. And so...

Every single thing goes back to not feeling good enough. Also, pulling everything out of your backpack and really analyzing it, right? So this podcast is about limiting beliefs. And so these are all the beliefs that you're telling yourself, all these thoughts that are in your head. It's all thought related, right? And so I always say that we're like powerhouse.

passive listeners to our thoughts instead of active listeners to our thoughts. And when you're a passive listener to your thoughts that you don't get to really do anything to change them. So be an active listener to your thoughts and really like don't ignore them when they're coming up. I'm not necessarily talking to you Shonda, I'm talking to like everybody who listened in, but like don't ignore them when they come up. And that was something that I did so much.

I would let a thought dictate my life. And because I didn't want to address the thought, it just continued to influence me to do its thing. But then I remember there was one day I was at my kitchen sink washing a dish and I finally like I had the thought and I was like, what is that? Like, what?

what is that? And it's like, you almost catching it in the air like a fly. And then you just hold it in your hand and you're like analyzing it. You say analyze what's in your backpack, like analyzing what is this thought? And then when I actually paid attention to it, it was like, this ain't even real. Yeah. And also too, you have to realize that, um,

This, that, I have a song to sing you because literally you just said the lyrics to a song by Todd Galbraith. Interesting.

But he's like, "Laura, you've been so good." And this is connecting to this because you're casting down that thought, but you're replacing it with something that's really real. And I think also you have to realize what version of you showing up. Like, is it 14 year old Lauren? Is it 16 year old Lauren? Is it... I've just been on this journey where I'm so happy. I take the thought, write it down. And my therapist, shout out to her, she's like,

really examine what version of Shonda is showing up and go back to that moment. And that's how you actually have, and this is where I think a lot of people got, it's gotten popular to write a note to your little self or I'm like, write a note to that version of you that keeps on coming up. Because at the end of the day, a lot of it goes back to childhood or even in our 20s, because you have some people who are 60 plus and they may have lost their parent or something like that in their 20s and 30s and something in them didn't heal. Right.

And defensiveness may come up or something. One of them for me in transparency is defensiveness. And I had to figure out, like, why do I get defensive? And I'm like, oh, let me see what version of Shonda. And it's it was the need to feel like I need to be understood from middle school, from being bullied.

from actually being isolated in some situations. And I feel like I had a voice. So now that I do have a voice that I feel like can stand on, I feel like I have to actually war for that voice. And it's like, no, you don't. Cause it's already, it's already like, it's already done.

Like, why do I have to feel the need to go to war? But also, too, also not feeling understood, not feeling understood, not feeling like the other person understands where I'm coming from. Yeah. But so it's not about them. Yeah. It's all about me. Which it usually is for everybody. It's usually all about what we're dealing with. And then other people take it personally. But it's like these thoughts that kind of hold us captive won't even realize what they are.

I think when people get the grip on this life is not about us. It's not. It's not. Oh my gosh, and that feels so good too though. It feels so good. It feels so good. I just got to chill. I just felt a release even saying that because when we book people, it's kind of counterintuitive because when we're selfish, we feel like we get so much gain. But when we're selfless, we get much more gain. It feels so good.

Well, so at the end of each episode, we always reframe limiting beliefs that hold us back from living fully and authentically. And so in this case, if our limiting belief was you can't rest in your entrepreneurial journey or you can't walk in your purpose, God's calling, you can't walk in your purpose. How would you reframe those to fit more within reality, your desired reality? Yeah, so...

That's heavy. I'm going to try to simplify it. So you can rest in your entrepreneurial journey when you abandon the world's definition of rest and seek Holy Spirit's version of rest for you specifically. Because rest looks different for Lauren. It looks different for Shonda. Rest for me looks every Wednesday is my Sabbath.

People mistaken the Sabbath of just sleeping all day. No, the Sabbath is giving God the first of everything and glory and everything that I do and touch on that day. And I promise you when he told me to do that, I'm like, when did I do what? But when I do it, that's when I found my rest in restoration. I'm not necessarily stopping the work, but I have noticed when I have meetings with people on Wednesdays, it's a divine encounter every single time.

everything it's not even about business so i know if someone schedules a meeting on wednesday i mean i do have my time to myself and things like and i'm writing and journaling

Yes, but that's rest for me and that's just for this season. So rest can look like whatever rest could be for someone that's listening that I'm going to write down every single limiting thought in my entrepreneurial journey and I'm going to counteract it with a scripture and I'm going to rest on that scripture. I'm going to speak that scripture.

And that's where you find peace. And that's when you find peace, child, that it's the ease of the work. You're still doing the work, but you're resting. Truth. So that's for the rest piece. The purpose, I think people just have to understand that they've mistaken their vehicle for their purpose. Like people will be like, oh, my purpose in life was to be a doctor.

That's a vehicle. What is your real purpose? Sometimes people have to understand God will call you to be somewhere for 10 years to save one soul. Are you content with that? So I think finding purpose is finding contentment in God's plans for you. Finding purpose is finding contentment in God's plans for you. Again, that goes back to the patience piece. Because I'm thinking about like where I'm at right now. I know the plan. I know where it's leading. I know where we going.

I'm just tired of sitting over here and not already being there. So finding that contentment in the plan and the process, that part can be hard, but like it's rewarding when you do. I keep trying to remind myself of where we're going, you know, because when I can remind myself of where I'm going, it's motivation for me to actually do the thing right now. Cause I know what, I know what the outcome is.

I know what the outcome is. There's rest in that finding contentment. - It is, it is. But contentment, I'm even in a searching for contentment. I was talking to one of my home girls last week and she's about to release a book

But God just told her to start a sub stack. What is a sub stack? Substack.com is like a newsletter. So it's a newsletter, but you can still have a live link, like a website link. So she sends out a sub stack every Thursday and it's around God parenting. Like God, not actually being a God parent, but how God is parenting her and how God is using her children to show her relationship.

With God. And by the time she done, she'll have a whole book. And that's what, and contentment is if I did a sub stack for 10 years, would I be okay with not? Cause she knows the end result, but it's, would she be okay? And it was so powerful because I was like, Oh yeah,

Let me do a deeper study on contentment because I've read the scripture with Paul and he wrote from a jail of like, he found true contentment in being in the lowest of lows, the highest of highs, having much, not having much, being in jail, being out evangelizing, being an apostle, but he found contentment in any season. So that's the journey I'm on next. I know that went off, but we got a part three. A part three.

Lord. Well, thank you for joining me, Shonda. All super helpful information. If people wanted to connect with you, where can they find you? So you always can find us on Instagram at salt and salt.

spell it out like rva instagram or www.mysaltedfaith.com for all my entrepreneurs out there that want to be in community with other faith-based entrepreneurs in your really early stages for you um or www.saltlightagency.com if you are already entrepreneur and you want to work with an agency that's not there just to produce work but to educate you on the way dope

And you know where you can find me. You can connect with me at lauren.e.wilt on Instagram. There's plenty of other ways too, but that's the only one that I'm fitting to tell y'all. Just DM me, go ahead. Can I say one thing? Of course. Especially for the people who are in their walk,

with Christ, take everything back to God. Anything that you heard today, take it back to God, pray around it. I'm sharing my lived experience, but take it back to God and allow Holy Spirit to reveal what is for you and what's not for you. And for those who are on and barking and they're like, "I don't know what these girls talking about." - I was about to say, you keep talking like everybody know what you saying. - Yeah, really, really start

with reading the Gospels, the New Testament. Mark, John, Luke, and I know I'm missing another one, Matthew. Start there and just start to understand Jesus' character. And when you do that, this episode will unlock some things for you. And you know what I'm going to add to that? I'm going to add, go outside and look around you. Yes.

Like that's it. If you go, this sounds wild, but if you, y'all always know I'm talking about looking at a leaf. If you go outside and just look at a leaf and look at the intricacies of that thing, and then imagine, look, just, I have so many trees outside my window. I'm just staring at them now. There is so much outside of my window in this world.

The number of leaves that are just outside of my window is insane. When you think about the number of veins that are in each leaf, that is insane. When you think about the fact that water falls from the sky, that is insane. When you think about the fact that there is so much stuff that is required for life and we have all of it already, that is insane.

Like the life that we live, the planet that we live on, all of this stuff is just mind blowing. So if you just take some time to go outside and sit and meditate on the fact that you are on a rock in the middle of space spinning at an insane speed. It's mind blowing. It's trippy. It's trippy. My thing is snowflakes. Snowflakes. Nuts. Like what? That's a good one. Yeah. Start there and take a book with you. That's it.

Like, just think about that. Yeah. And I think that's the type of stuff, too. That's where I get my joy from. And, like, that childlike nature. Because it's just like, what? How many cells do I have?

How am I breathing and not thinking about it? You just go about life like it's just given to us. But when something, and it shouldn't have to wait until something traumatic happens to stop. Right. And really look at life because I even think like, oh my gosh, my fingers or even down to my pinky toe. If I didn't have a pinky toe, I wouldn't have balance. Yep. That would just throw everything. Like it's just, everything is so intentional. Yeah.

mind-blowing just mind-blowing I find so much joy in everything outside of my window and the fact that I have access to it oxygen and that's why you have joy bruh it's insane and I'm thankful and I'm grateful because we out here we're good we got we know where we're going we know what our purpose is

Figuring out your vehicle like go play around with different things see what see where you get peace In your vehicle like interviewing people feels like medicine to me like these conversations are pure medicine Anytime I don't feel good, and I know I have an interview coming up I never cancel it because I know by the end of the interview I'm gonna feel great

Genuinely my medicine. That's filling your tank. Yes, absolutely. Fills my tank. But like go try different things if you feel like you don't know what you're doing for your vehicle and feel where you feel your rest. Go outside, go look at your leaf, go read the gospels.

and see where you land. Or even listen to music. Yes. Yo, I'm obsessed with the violin right now. Ooh, love that. When I listen to lo-fi or... Yeah. Like, it's just piercingly beautiful. And when you get to this calm state of your... You just find beauty and just...

It's so many. We can spend the rest of our lives choosing one thing a day to find beauty in. I think we have one challenge for the next 30 days is find beauty in one thing and fixate on it and write about it. I love it. Well, dope. Y'all got y'all Marching Orders listeners. Go have fun. Go explore. Thank you, Maura, for having me. Of course. And we will chat with y'all next week. Farewell. Bye.

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