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Where does pepper come from?

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Jenna Schultz博士:我是一位历史学家,在明尼苏达州圣保罗的圣托马斯大学任教。黑胡椒只生长在热带地区,它生长在一株植物上,胡椒是生长在藤蔓上的果实。这些果实被采摘后,在水中煮沸,然后干燥,就变成了黑胡椒粒。科学家们现在开始探索黑胡椒是否具有任何药用益处,包括治疗消化系统疾病。当然,黑胡椒最大的用途是为食物调味,它被世界各地的许多食谱使用。它在古代中国人、希腊人和罗马人中就已经被使用了,这意味着早期的贸易路线已经连接了这些遥远的文明和古代印度。我们甚至有古罗马的食谱包含胡椒。由于胡椒很难获得,商人不得不将其运送很长的距离,对于生活在这些古代文明中的人们来说,购买胡椒非常昂贵,它是富人的奢侈品。在中世纪的欧洲,一磅胡椒相当于普通工人几天的工资,人们像交易黄金和白银一样交易胡椒。随着欧洲航运技术的进步,从15世纪后期开始,各国开始寻找新的航线以更容易地获得胡椒和其他香料。葡萄牙、荷兰和英国都曾争夺这些香料贸易路线的控制权。由于贸易使得胡椒越来越多,成本逐渐下降,使其更容易被所有人获得。 Anna Weigel:我一直以为黑胡椒只是来自胡椒研磨机内部,但事实远比这有趣得多。黑胡椒粒已经为我们的烹饪增色4000多年了,甚至在古埃及墓葬中也被发现,作为来世的美味调味品。

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From the brains behind Brains On, this is the Moment of Um. Answering those questions that make you go... Moment of Um comes to you from APM Studios. I'm Anna Weigel. Um...

I'm winding down after a long day with my favorite hobby, watching infomercials. Oh, shh, here's one of my favorites. At Scintilla's Spice Shop, we source the finest quality herbs, seasonings, and toothsome treats from all over the world. We have cinnamon from Sri Lanka, nutmeg from the Banda Islands in Indonesia, oregano from Greece, black pepper from...

And Hungarian paprika. Hey, wait just a single second. What was that last one? Hungarian paprika? Lovely stuff. No, no, no, no, no. The one before that. Black pepper. Where did you say it was from? Okay, you got me. I don't know where black pepper comes from. Well, I know thanks to Piper who sent in this question to Moment of Um headquarters. Hi, I'm Piper. I live in Thailand and my question is...

Where does pepper come from? Hi, my name is Dr. Jenna Schultz. I am a historian and I teach at the University of St. Thomas in St. Paul, Minnesota. Pepper is only found in tropical areas. It's actually grown on a plant. The pepper is the fruit that's grown on a vine. And those fruits are then harvested, boiled in water, and then dried to become the black peppercorn.

Scientists today are starting to explore if there are any medicinal benefits, including for digestive problems. The biggest use of pepper, of course, is to flavor our food, and it's used in many recipes around the world.

It already appeared to be in use by the ancient Chinese, Greeks, and Romans. This means that there were early trade routes already connecting these far-flung civilizations to ancient India. We even have cookbooks from the ancient Romans that have recipes that include pepper. Since it was so hard to get pepper, merchants had to haul it long distances. And it was very expensive for people living in these ancient civilizations to purchase it. It was a luxury item for the wealthy.

So much so that even in the Middle Ages in Europe, a pound of pepper was equal to several days' pay for an average worker. People traded in pepper like they did gold and silver. As European shipping technologies improved, kingdoms set sail to find new routes to gain easier access to pepper and other spices starting in the late 1400s. The

the Portuguese, Dutch, and English all at one time or another fought for control of these spice routes. With more and more pepper available thanks to this trade, the cost slowly went down, making it more accessible to everyone. Um, um, uh,

My goodness. I thought black pepper just came from the inside of a pepper grinder, but it's so much more interesting than that. It's true. Peppercorns have been spicing up our cooking for more than 4,000 years. It's even been found in ancient Egyptian tombs as a tasty seasoning for the afterlife. Now I know. Thank you so much. You bet, person on TV that I am somehow having a conversation with. Now tell me more about that cinnamon. ♪

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