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587: The benefits & risks of psychedelic medicine | Nick Brüss, EdD, LMFT

2025/4/6
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我是一名执业心理治疗师,专门从事整合性氯胺酮辅助心理治疗和内部家庭系统疗法。在我的实践中,我发现精神药物辅助疗法是一种非常有效的治疗方法,它可以帮助人们处理创伤、成瘾和人际关系问题。这种疗法通常分为三个阶段:准备阶段、导航阶段和整合阶段。准备阶段侧重于建立安全感和信任感,并与病人建立治疗联盟。导航阶段是在安全的环境中进行精神药物体验,由训练有素的心理治疗师引导,帮助病人处理药物带来的体验。整合阶段是将药物体验中的信息融入日常生活,处理和消化这些信息,并制定计划以实现改变。 MDMA、裸盖菇素和氯胺酮是三种常用的精神药物,它们在治疗用途和适用人群方面存在差异。MDMA 对 PTSD 特别有效,因为它可以帮助人们打开心灵,更容易处理创伤性记忆。氯胺酮对难治性抑郁症有效,因为它可以让人进入一种类似梦境的状态,从而与自身的体验保持距离,并探索痛苦的根源。裸盖菇素对焦虑有效,因为它可以让人产生一种与自然合一的感受,从而减轻焦虑情绪。 在进行精神药物辅助疗法时,情境(set)和环境(setting)非常重要。情境指个人的心态和目标,环境指周围环境的安全性和支持性。一个安全、支持性的环境对于疗效至关重要。此外,剂量也是一个重要的因素,需要根据病人的情况进行调整。 精神药物辅助疗法不适用于所有人。患有精神分裂症、I型双相情感障碍或其他精神疾病的人群,以及有药物滥用史或生活环境不稳定的人群,都不适合进行这种疗法。对于25岁以下人群,由于大脑仍在发育中,也不建议使用精神药物。 寻找精神药物辅助疗法的从业者时,应优先考虑信任感,并询问其培训、经验和治疗方法。一个好的从业者会询问病人的病史,并根据病人的情况制定个性化的治疗方案。 除了精神药物辅助疗法外,正念练习、整体呼吸法和内部家庭系统疗法等方法也能带来类似的益处。这些方法可以帮助人们更好地处理情绪,并提高自我觉察能力。

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Psychedelic-assisted therapy is a structured therapeutic process combining psychedelics (psilocybin, MDMA, ketamine) with psychotherapy for deep healing. It involves three phases: preparation, navigation (ingesting the psychedelic in a safe setting), and integration (incorporating insights into daily life). Integration is key to lasting transformation.
  • Psychedelic-assisted therapy combines psychedelics with psychotherapy.
  • Three phases: preparation, navigation, integration.
  • Integration is crucial for lasting change.

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“Psychedelic medicine can be rocket fuel for healing,” explains Nick Brüss, EdD, LMFT.

Brüss, licensed psychotherapist in Los Angeles specializing in integrative, ketamine-assisted psychotherapy, and Internal Family Systems, joins us today to discuss the healing power of psychedelic medicine, the therapeutic uses, plus: 

  • What is  psychedelic therapy (~2:03)

  • Use cases for psychedelic therapy (~7:15)

  •  MDMA, psilocybin, ketamine (~9:12)

  • Set & setting (~12:08)

  • MDMA (~15:35)

  • Ketamine (~21:33)

  •  Psilocybin (~27:40)

  • Opening up to the experience (~29:20)

  • Exclusion criteria (~32:10)

  • Age & brain development (~33:50)

  • Choosing a practitioner (~37:17)

  • Non-psychadelic modalities (~41:22)

  • Where is the science headed (~47:40)

  • What Brüss is most excited about (~49:55)

  • Closing thoughts (~52:50)

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