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Throwback: Getting Bad Advice from Good People | Ep 907

2025/6/13
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从100万美元到10亿美元净资产的商业旅程中的企业家、投资者和内容创作者。
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Alex Hormozi: 很多人出于好意提供建议,但这些建议可能并不适合你。关键在于,当你决定放弃某件事时,要全身心投入,不要犹豫。在做决策时,务必保持冷静和理性,避免情绪化的判断。一旦做出决定,就要全力以赴,彻底了结,这样才能清晰地评估机会成本,并专注于新的目标。 Alex Hormozi: 我在经营健身房时,并没有听从大多数人的建议,而是选择了快速出售,尽管这可能不是最理想的结果。但我相信,等待一年以获得更高的价格,不如抓住新的机会,实现更大的宏观胜利。因此,我总是以数学的方式来衡量机会成本,比较当前和潜在机会的收益,以此来做出决策,并排除外界的干扰。 Alex Hormozi: 我建议大家,在做重大决策时,要权衡利弊,做出理性的判断。不要害怕快速行动,一旦做出决定,就要坚定地执行。同时,也要注意听取那些已经实现你目标的人的建议,而不是盲目听从那些比你赚更多的人的意见。因为每个人的视角和经验都不同,只有那些真正了解你目标的人,才能给你提供最有效的指导。

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Alex Hormozi shares his experience of selling his gyms and explains the importance of considering opportunity costs when making business decisions. He emphasizes that sometimes a non-ideal outcome can lead to a bigger win in the long run, especially in the context of switching to a superior opportunity.
  • Opportunity cost is a crucial factor in decision-making.
  • Sometimes a non-ideal outcome can lead to a bigger win overall.
  • Focusing on the macro picture is more important than the micro perspective.

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A lot of times people have really good intentions and they're not bad people and they give good advice for most people. It just may not be the right advice for you right now. If you're done with something, then be all in about being done with it. When you're making that kind of decision, make the decision in a non-emotional place. And then when you make the decision, go all fucking in and be done with it so that you can look at the opportunity cost.

The wealthiest people in the world see business as a game. This podcast, The Game, is my attempt at documenting the lessons I've learned on my way to building acquisition.com into a billion dollar portfolio. My hope is that you use the lessons to grow your business and maybe someday soon partner with us to get to $100 million and beyond. I hope you share and enjoy. I wanted to talk about good advice from good invention people and bad advice from good people. And I think it's one of the hardest things that you struggle with as an entrepreneur is who do you listen to, right? Where do you get your information from and how can you test whether or not

that information is valid or good for you to act on. And so I was talking to a friend earlier this morning who's got six locations and they're trying to, you know, they're thinking about going into licensing and he's kind of going back and forth between selling his six locations, keeping them, keeping one of them, etc. And so he was like, what do you do when you sold your six? And what I want to tell you is I actually did what most people would consider in a non-ideal outcome.

And so what I mean by that is that I got advice from most people to not do a lot of the things that I've done in my life. And these were people who had very good intentions. And so parents, friends, you know, mentors, things like that. And so, but the decisions that we ended up making ended up being the right decision for us. And so like, for example, when I had the gyms that I had, I actually sold five of them and closed down one of them, right? And I could have sold all of them and I could have probably bundled them together and I could have gotten a broker and probably sold for probably three or four times the amount that I did.

But I am a big believer in so I talked yesterday about opportunities and threats and when you have an opportunity or you have made the decision to capitalize on a new thing that you're going to do to go all in on that thing and so for me the added benefit of waiting a year to get the ideal outcome was not as good as Taking a non ideal outcome but taking a bigger win overall in the macro picture of life and so I think a lot of times

uh, people with good intentions will give you, uh, advice with a micro perspective. And so it's kind of like the advice, like save your way to being a million, you know, be a millionaire, right? Like never get Starbucks, never out to eat, like all that kind of stuff. But like, and the thing is, is like for somebody who's going to be an employee, who's going to be on a fixed income, uh,

that's kind of the only way to do it unless you want to start making more money on the side, which then means you're entering into like the entrepreneurial realm. Right. And then again, that advice no longer is valid. And so there's like, that's, that's why it's so hard having this big bucket of like, what is good advice versus bad advice? Because like, there's really just contextual, is this good advice for me right now? And so the, the, the way that I've always navigated this is looking at it in math terms of opportunity cost of, of,

how much and this is really real like this is this is 100% how I weigh out these value equations and honestly how I can drown out the noise of like my parents saying this is stupid and how mentors saying I shouldn't make this call but just simply saying how much will I make if I were to start fresh on this new opportunity or this new thing and

compared to the current opportunity vehicle that I'm in right now. And so for them, they were like, you spent the last, you know, three and a half years, four years pouring your soul into building these gyms and making them profitable and all the hardships and blah, blah, blah, blah. They're like, how can you just walk away from that? How can you just, you know, in their minds, throw it away? Because I was just basically selling it for like one or one and a half times earnings. And

And I was just like, because the thing that I'm going to do next is going to be so much bigger. And me waiting a year to do that is going to lose me what I would have made in the first year of that business. And lo and behold, when we, you know, when I sold all the gyms, the very next month, I did over $200,000 in my first month.

And so I was able to replace, you know, majority of the income that I had in the first month of switching to a superior opportunity vehicle. And so to take this back to like, okay, Alex, what does this mean for me? A lot of times people have really good intentions and they're not bad people and they give good. Real quick, guys, I have a special, special gift for you for being loyal listeners of the podcast.

Layla and I spent probably an entire quarter putting together our scaling roadmap. It's breaking scaling into 10 stages and across all eight functions of the business. So you've got marketing, you've got sales, you've got product, you've got customer success, you've got IT, you've got recruiting, you've got HR, you've got finance. And we show the problems that emerge at every level of scale

and how to graduate to the next level. It's all free, and you can get it personalized to you. So it's about 30-ish pages for each of the stages. Once you answer the questions, it will tell you exactly where you're at and what you need to do to grow. It's about 14 hours of stuff, but it's narrowed down so that you only have to watch the part that's relevant to you, which will probably be about 90 minutes. And so if that's at all interesting, you can go to acquisition.com forward slash roadmap. R-O-A-D map. Roadmap. Advice?

for most people. It just may not be the right advice for you right now. And so I guess what I want to say is like, I want to encourage any of you who are like, like, if you're done with something, then be all in about being done with it. And that's that, that advice has really never deserved me. And I do want to make sure that when you're making that kind of decision, you're not making a permit decision based on a momentary emotion for sure. Like that needs to be a logical decision that you've come to, but

But once you've made the decision in a non-emotional neutral place where you've looked at the math purely, not looked at the math with an emotional perspective of like, this could be amazing, you know what I mean? But like really what is realistic? What are some other people who've done the same path? You know, what are expected earnings? Things like that. When you make that decision, then go all in.

I sold all of my gyms from beginning to end in 120 days. Like from beginning to end, all of them were closed. I was out of the leases. I had cash in hand or payments had started coming for the ones that I did payment plans for.

And so, and I sold five of them to five different owners. Actually, that's not true. I sold three to one owner. I sold one to a competitor. I sold one to a client and then I closed one down. And so, but I mean, I had a very, you know what I mean? Like I basically was just like, I'm getting, I'm, I'm, I'm moving on with this. Uh, this is a, this is a, essentially a fire sale. You know what I mean? Like I'm, I'm moving on to the next step for me. And so if you're

If you get to that, and it doesn't have to be with like the macro level of your gym, but it can be with any decision. Like if you're done with something, be done with it. Trying to then go from like, I'm done to let's get ideal outcome are two very contradictory feelings. And they're very, two very different action sets that you take based on that decision. And

usually if you're looking at the opportunity cost of the time, it's going to take you between fire sale to ideal outcome. And then you measure how much more you would make in the new thing that you want to do or the, you know, whatever the endeavor that you're trying to take on is. If you can measure that difference and the differential is greater to doing the thing that you want to do, then it makes math sense to do that and cut ties with the other one as fast as possible so that you can move in that direction.

Real quick, guys, you guys already know that I don't run any ads on this and I don't sell anything. And so the only ask that I can ever have of you guys is that you help me spread the word so we can have more entrepreneurs, make more money, feed their families, make better products and have better experiences for their employees and customers. And the only way we do that is if you can rate and review and share this podcast. So the single thing that I ask you to do is you can just leave a review. It'll take you 10 seconds or one type of the thumb. It would mean the absolute world to me. And more importantly, it may change the world for someone else.

And so I just want to give you advice that I didn't get when it comes to like making big moves. I've always, always moved in the direction of like making big moves, making the decision and executing. And I'll take time to make the decision. But when the decision is made, it's made. And every day that I don't act on that decision is the day that I become weaker and I become less certain of myself. So it's like once you have made it, then prove to yourself that you have balls. And I say that with love to women, you know, that you got big ovaries, whatever.

And that you make the call and you move forward. And a lot of people who are non-entrepreneurial, who are more security driven, things like that will be like, you shouldn't move this fast. It's not good to do things quickly. You should take more time. You should really think about this more. It's like, well, that's just because you're security driven and you sit in your blanket of comfort. And you don't realize that there's still an entrepreneur above you who's worried every day about the business that you're getting paid for.

Still being there tomorrow, you know what I mean? And so that's just because they live in a false sense of security But and so they play off of rules that don't actually exist but for you and I for those of us who are entrepreneurs for those people who are taking the risks then

Weigh your decisions, make the decision in a non-emotional place. And then when you make the decision, go all fucking in and be done with it so that you can look at the opportunity costs. Now, that being said, if you have a business where I'm just giving you an example, this may or may not be relevant to some people listening, but like, let's say you have a business that can sell today for $3 million and, you know, with a proper process can sell for 10, right? And the proper process would take an extra, let's say nine months.

Well, then the equation would be, will I be able to make an extra $7 million in profit from a new endeavor in that period of time? And if it doesn't look like that's the case, then you should.

wait and do the right process. But basically what I'm saying is you need to look at the delta between what you can get in a short period of time. I'm not saying this is necessarily for an exit. I'm just using this as an example. It could be anything. But what you can get in a short period of time compared to what you could get over a longer period of time, and then what the opportunity cost of doing the other thing that you would do in that meantime. And whichever one is greater is the one that you should do, and you should act on that in the moment. And fuck everyone else who tells you otherwise.

That being said, last words of advice. Sorry for all the advices this morning.

Don't listen to me if you want to make more than me like What I think one of the most dangerous things in the world is listening people who make more than you Rather than listening to people who make what you want to make And that's something that I think I've learned as well because like when I was starting out there were plenty of people who made a lot more than I did but when I look now back on the advice that they gave me it was based on their view of the world and the lens that they how they saw things and

And it wasn't really the best advice. It was just the advice from their perspective. And so I think that, like, listen to Titans. You know what I mean? Listen to the billionaires. Listen to those podcasts. Watch those guys talk because they will be able to give you

perspective from, you know, 10,000 foot view of the things that are really going to drive the outcomes that you're looking for. And so like, don't be afraid to not listen to people if it doesn't feel right for you, you know, and a lot of times they're just giving you based on the experiences that they have and they're projecting it onto you. And I do the same thing to everyone that I'm talking, you know, to everyone who's on here right now. Like I'm just giving you my experiences and how that's worked for me. There might be another guy who's made 20,000 times more than me who's like,

Never do that. But that's just my two cents and my angle that has served me well, you know, with our businesses and whatnot. So make sure that the people that you're listening to have achieved what you want to achieve, not just more. And I know that's a little bit counter to some of the internet marketing culture of like, you just need to be one step ahead of the people that you're trying to serve. I think that's a good thing.

I think you need to be 20 steps ahead of the people that you want to serve so that you can actually see the battlefield for not like just the next step, because if you only see the next step, then you might not know that they would have to backstep that one step two steps from now. And so that's where, that's where, that's where this is kind of coming from is if you can see what 10 steps ahead look like, then you can actually figure out how to get there in six rather than being one step ahead. Like, I think it maybe works from a, from a selling someone stuff standpoint, but it doesn't really work from a long-term serving that person standpoint. So

Real quick guys, I have a special, special gift for you for being loyal listeners of the podcast. Layla and I spent probably an entire quarter putting together our scaling roadmap. It's breaking scaling into 10 stages and across all eight functions of the business. So you've got marketing, you've got sales, you've got product, you've got customer success, you've got IT, you've got recruiting, you've got HR, you've got finance. And we show the problems that emerge at every level of scale.

and how to graduate to the next level. It's all free and you can get it personalized to you. So it's about 30-ish pages for each of the stages. Once you answer the questions, it will tell you exactly where you're at and what you need to do to grow. It's about 14 hours of stuff, but it's narrowed down so that you only have to watch the part that's relevant to you, which will probably be about 90 minutes. And so if that's at all interesting, you can go to acquisition.com forward slash roadmap, R-O-A-D map, roadmap.