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What Makes South Korea's 'Super Divers' Special?

2025/6/20
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Emily Kwong: 我将和Ari一起探索济州岛海女的奥秘,她们是一群非凡的女性自由潜水员,拥有令人惊叹的潜水能力。 Ari Daniel: 济州岛海女在极端寒冷的条件下进行自由潜水,她们的平均年龄很高,但仍然坚持潜水,这需要极大的承诺和勇气。她们的潜水能力不仅来自于长期的训练,还得益于特殊的生理和基因适应性,这使得她们能够在水下屏住呼吸长达数分钟,并采集各种海产品。我和Melissa以及Diana一起研究了海女的适应能力,发现她们的身体经过世代的潜水活动已经发生了改变。 Melissa Alardo: 我主要研究极端生理学,包括像印度尼西亚巴瑶族这样的自由潜水员。我们发现巴瑶族人拥有更大的脾脏,这与他们的基因适应有关,更大的脾脏可以帮助他们储存更多的氧气,从而在水下停留更长的时间。因此,我也想了解海女是否也具有类似的适应性,使她们能够适应极端的生活方式。通过比较海女和非海女的生理和基因差异,我们发现海女的心率在模拟潜水时下降的幅度更大,而且她们还拥有与耐寒性和血压调控相关的特殊基因。 Diana Aguilar-Gomez: 作为一名群体遗传学家,我参与了海女适应性研究。我们发现海女拥有一种与血压相关的基因,这可能与血管结构和功能有关,有助于降低潜水时升高的血压,特别是在怀孕期间。这种基因可以遗传给下一代,从而降低先兆子痫和其他危及生命的并发症的风险。通过研究海女,我们或许可以开发出保护全世界人民免受中风的疗法。 Stephen Chung: 通过研究像海女这样将身体推向极限的人群,我们可以更好地了解健康以及人体的能力。她们的身体已经适应了极端环境,这为我们提供了宝贵的 insights,可以帮助我们更好地理解人类生理的极限。

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The episode introduces the Haenyeo, all-female free divers from Jeju Island, South Korea, who can hold their breath for up to three minutes while collecting seafood in frigid waters. Their diving practices start from a young age and continue into old age, and a recent study suggests this is due to a mix of physiological and genetic adaptations.
  • Haenyeo are all-female free divers from Jeju Island, South Korea
  • They can hold their breath for up to two or three minutes
  • They dive in waters as cold as 50 degrees Fahrenheit
  • They start diving as girls and continue well into old age

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Hey, everybody. It's Emily Kwong, and I'm with science reporter Ari Daniel. You're taking us on an adventure today, right, Ari? I am indeed. Emily, I'm going to take you to Jeju Island. Ooh. Where's Jeju Island? It's like 50, 60 miles off the coast of South Korea. And in this video that you're hearing, there's a motorboat that's chugging along the coast before the vessel even comes to a stop. An older woman in a wetsuit jumps into the water...

and dives down. Oh, so this is a diver. Yeah. Cool. Wetsuit. I'm assuming she's also got fins and a mask. Yes. Yep. Yes. And like an oxygen tank and stuff. No. Just pure lung capacity. This woman is part of a long line of female free divers on Jeju Island called the Henyo. Oh.

And these women can hold their breath a really long time, Emily. Up to two or three minutes. Two to three minutes? Minutes. What are the Hanyo doing down there? They're collecting all kinds of seafood to eat and sell. Things like abalone, sea urchins, you know, harvest seaweed sometimes. It's like grocery shopping while holding your

- Yeah, marine grocery shopping, exactly. - Yeah. - This is Melissa Alardo. She's an evolutionary geneticist at the University of Utah. And she sent me this video that she took of a few Henyo divers who routinely dive in waters that can be in the 50 degree range. - Oh, so they're diving in really cold water. - Yeah, I could never do it. I mean, I can barely handle 70 degree water. But these women, they start diving as girls and continue well into old age.

And what's astonishing is that it's not just years of training that make this feat possible. It's also a set of special adaptations, ones that Melissa and her team recently uncovered. So today on the show, the super divers of Jeju Island. Plus the mix of physiological and genetic adaptations that make these women's dives possible. I'm Emily Kwong. And I'm Ari Daniel. And you're listening to ShoreWave from NPR.

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So, Ari, today we were talking about the haenyeo, these female freedivers in South Korea. How do the haenyeo compare to other freedivers around the world? What makes them different?

their abilities so special. I mean, free diving anywhere is tough, Emily, but the conditions that the Henyo are operating under are pretty extreme. One of the first times I was there, it was snowing. They said as long as there's not a risk that they're going to be blown away to sea, then they still go out in the water no matter how cold it is. That's commitment. Indeed. And these women dive across all

all of life's milestones, which I talked to Melissa and her collaborator, Diana Aguilar-Gomez, about. Diana is a population geneticist currently at UCLA. They dive throughout their whole pregnancy. They say they just dive until basically before they...

keep birth. And then they were back in the water three days later. Yeah, it's amazing. Diana and Melissa wanted to know whether there were adaptations the Henyo might have that allow them to do this. And they recently pinpointed some in a study that published in the journal Cell Reports. Fascinating. Okay. How did that study come about?

Well, Melissa Elardo, she runs something called the Superhuman Lab, where she studies extreme physiologies across different populations, including among the Bajo free divers in Indonesia. They're just really good at holding their breath and being underwater. And we found that the Bajo had larger spleens, and we were able to link this to a genetic adaptation. And so the spleen plays a role in diving because it stores bacteria.

red blood cells that are oxygenated. And when you dive, your spleen contracts and it pushes those red blood cells into circulation. So essentially, we think the Bajo have big spleens because it enables them to stay underwater longer. Melissa told me the Bajo were the first group of people that were found to have evolutionary adaptations to make this kind of diving safer. And she wanted to know how the Henyo might be adapted to their extreme lifestyle.

how evolution might have shaped the Henyo to be better divers, to dive more safely, to dive for longer. Yeah, it's so impressive that they can do this. So how did Melissa and her team go about conducting this study? Well, they decided to compare the Henyo to other elderly women on the island who aren't divers but have a similar genetic background and distill others'

off-island who aren't related. About 30 women in each group. Okay, so they had some groups of non-divers to compare to the divers. So how did they compare them? Because I assume they didn't just throw all these elderly women into the open ocean and hope for the best. They certainly did not try that approach. Oh, good.

Fortunately, there's a workaround, a safer workaround. It's called a simulated dive. You hold your breath and put your face in a bowl full of cold water, and your body responds as if you're diving. Your heart rate will drop measurably.

I've done this when I'm very anxious. But why does your heart rate drop when you put your head in a bowl of ice water? It's just an automatic thing, Emily. Your body acts like it's underwater and triggers something that's called the mammalian diving reflex, which slows down your heart rate, allowing it to do less work to limit oxygen consumption. The

The Henyo, though, they found this experiment kind of silly. They said, like, getting in the ocean, being underwater, that's diving. Whatever this is, this isn't diving. But they still held their breath long enough that we were able to elicit a response. I'm just picturing all these aunties and grandmas like, for science, I guess if I have to. So what was the response?

between the Henyo and the non-divers in doing this? There was a significant one. The Henyo heart rate fell by about 50% more than their non-diving peers. Wow. We had one diver whose heart rate dropped over 40 beats per minute in 15 seconds. Melissa says the Henyo response is due to a lifetime of training and diving experience. So it's classic physiological adaptation. What about genetic differences?

adaptation? Did they do an analysis of those women on the level of their DNA as well? They did. The researchers took saliva samples to look for genetic differences between the three groups, and they found that everyone from Jeju, both the divers and the non-divers, had basically the same genes, meaning that the people of the island appear to have been genetically sculpted by generations of divers.

What this suggests is that everybody in Jeju has an equally likely chance of being a descendant of a diver. What a thing to inherit. And was there anything special about this particular gene pool that stood out? Yeah, two things, actually. The first was a gene that seems to be related to cold tolerance. Maybe that protects them from hypothermia in ways that we don't fully understand yet.

That makes sense. Right. And the second gene is associated with blood pressure, which Diana Aguilar-Gomez, who did this work as a PhD student at UC Berkeley, thinks is likely connected to blood vessel structure and function. Diving increases your blood pressure, and particularly through pregnancy, that can be very dangerous.

So if these women have a gene that lowers their blood pressure, it's like built-in protection from preeclampsia and other life-threatening complications. And so... Oh, and they would pass those genes along. Bingo. And I don't know if it's true, but I don't know if it's true.

I should tell you, Emily, that Jeju Island has an especially low rate of stroke mortality. And Melissa thinks that could be related to this second protective gene, since stroke can result from high blood pressure. Wouldn't it be amazing if by studying divers in Korea, we can translate these findings to develop a therapeutic that protects people from stroke around the world?

So by studying these populations, it can lead to discoveries that could have really important implications for people everywhere. Absolutely. This is so the value of studying outliers. So what health lessons can be learned from these freedivers? So I spoke with Stephen Chung, who studies extreme physiology at Brock University in Canada. He wasn't involved in the research, but he addressed this exact question. By pushing the body to its limits, we get a better sense of health.

where those limits are, but also just what the human body is capable of. I'm not even near the age of these women and I don't think I can go and dive all day. I mean, I feel like that's like a superpower. A superpower that Diana says may not be around for much longer.

The newer generations of women, they're like going to university and doing other stuff. So like the average age of the Henio nowadays is around 70 years old. Oh, wow. So this is just becoming an increasingly rare practice, even if the genetics live on in the descendants of these divers. That's true. And it's one of the reasons that it was important to Melissa that her and her team returned to Jeju Island to share their results with the Henio.

these women are extraordinary. Their biology is amazing and what they do is amazing. And so I think it's really important to celebrate just how unique these women are and how it's changed their bodies and the bodies of other people on this island. Ari Daniel, thank you so much for coming on Shortwave. I'm really glad we know more about the Henyo. Thanks for having me, Emily. I love being here.

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