🎤 PODCAST • Envy ~ How can I get along with my envious sister?
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Kathy, you're having difficulty dealing with somebody difficult in your life. Some sisters. Sisters, okay. And a neighbor. Sisters and a neighbor. Older than you? Younger than you? The sisters. Just a couple right in the same age range. All in the same age range. How many of them?

That I'm having trouble with? Three. Three. Any other sisters? Yes. One other one that is my delight. Okay. So, boy, this is a family of five girls. Yes. That must have been fun growing up, huh? Oh, yeah. Especially for our dad. Yeah. Tell me, what's the situation? Can't deal with being constantly criticized by one of them.

who's very negative. She's negative on herself, too, but she's just a totally negative person. And she just totally upsets me with her constant criticism. Okay, so is this new to her, or is this a lifetime habit? Lifetime. And what do you think drives, why you? Why is she picking on you?

I don't know, maybe because I have my own thoughts. I don't know, but I know that... You have your own what? My own thoughts. So you're independent? Very, yeah. Tell me what she'll say to you. Can you give me one or two quick samplers? I didn't hear you. Oh, can you give me one or two examples, quick samples, of what she says to you? Okay. Okay, I do have a master's degree, but...

Not too long ago, I was talking about some trouble I was having with my ATM machine, and she says, oh, you have two masters and you can't even figure out your ATM card? Okay, so comments that try to cut you down. Yeah.

Yes. Because you look at humor very carefully. Humor can either build a person up or tear them down. Right. And if a person occasionally says a sarcastic comment, you can cut them some slack. But if that's the norm, if it's always you think you're so smart, because that's the theme behind that, isn't it? You know, who do you think you are? You can't even do something. You slipped on a banana peel. It's that type of feel. Then usually what drives that is envy. Right.

Oh, brother. But give me another example. How she picks. I was cussing and she said, oh, do you do that at work too? What is cussing? Pardon me? You were what? Oh, cutting? Cussing. Cursing. Oh, cussing. Okay. Yeah. And she says she wanted to know if you do that at work. In front of children. I mean, that's.

What she was asking me. Oh, you work with kids? Yeah. Yeah. So she's trying to find some holes in the dam. It sounds like you're a decent person and you've got some self-esteem and some independence. Yeah. And she's looking to find what?

I don't know. She's had serious self-esteem issues forever. Yeah, we're talking about your relationship, her relationship with you. What do you think is going on? What is it? Well, she does it to two of my other sisters, too, but probably not as much. Why you? Probably because they have husbands around all the time, and I'm not married, and she knows that there's no man there to...

I don't know. So she can get away with more? Yeah, she can get away with that. Does she... Tell me, what I like to look at in the people that I'm closest with is how they... You know, everybody... A lot of people feel very comfortable being supportive if you've had some tragedy in your life. You have someone die, you've been in a car accident, you have to have a medical procedure...

People can be very supportive of you, but do something good in your life, like getting a master's degree or excelling at some sport, winning a tennis championship, and look at the people around you.

Can they still be loving and supportive, or do they need you to be in pain? Do they need to play the... She does. She needs me. That is true. That is true. Yeah, tell me. Hey, I gotta interrupt this, because we've gotta pay some bills. 30 seconds, that's it. A very quick ad, and then Ellen will be back. Romance. Oh, I wish guys knew more about what we want from a relationship. Boy, I wish I knew more about what I want. Where's that ad I saw?

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Yeah, well, when I broke my leg, I mean, you know, it was, she just couldn't, oh, let me come over and take care of you and blah, blah, blah. And then, you know. When you got your master's. Yeah, when you got your master's, what happened? Well, she was supportive while I was getting it. But then when I got it, I mean, that comment came out. She didn't go to college at all. Yeah. And that might have something to do with it. Okay, so people can...

compare themselves to their friends and to their family members and they can feel really inadequate if another family member is doing better than them which somebody in the family is always going to be doing better than them my sister does way better than i do in photography uh... she can she she moves better and dance even though i take the ballroom dancing classes and uh... you know i have another sister that's much more social than i am and so we all have our areas areas of expertise

If we just recognize it, admire it in one another, and if we want it for ourselves, we try to emulate it, but we don't tear it down in one another, that is fine. If you look at a sibling, though, and you want to do what Tanya Harding did to Nancy Carrigan, if you remember back in the Olympics, this ice skating, if you want to knock them down a peg, hit them in the knees, then you have...

got to protect yourself from her. Well, the thing is that whenever this happens, most of the time it's on the phone, but not always. It's in person too, but when it's on the phone, I say, we need to talk about this because I want to talk about it and fix it. And what does she say? She will say, I'm not going to argue with you, and then she'll hang up on me. So she won't talk about it at all, and then she'll wait like three weeks and call me and act like nothing's wrong. Well...

Something is wrong, and I'm not going to act like nothing is wrong. You're doing the right thing. I wrote a course on psychological self-defense. You're doing the right thing. You're naming her method. But I don't know how to get her to talk to me about it. You can't. You cannot force someone else to talk about it, but you can...

name it, meaning I can't force someone to think about something if they're not going to or talk to me about it. I can say to her, you know, help me understand why you do that. You know, I noticed that felt like a put down. I'm not sure if you intended that. Help me understand you better. Or I'm wondering if you ever ask yourself why you do that.

You know, it hurts a lot. I would have preferred that you said, wow, that's great. I'm so happy for you. You worked so hard to get your master's. And maybe someday I'll go back to school too and you'll be my role model. You can give her a contrast. I used several different skills right there. One was to use a contrast. This is what I wish you had said earlier.

you know, wow, isn't that great? Someday maybe I'll go back to school to get an education too and you'll be my role model. I said that, I mentioned that, you know, help me understand why you're doing that or I'm wondering if you ever give some thought as to why you do that. Meaning she doesn't have to ever answer me there, does she?

It's something for her to think about. Now, you said that three sisters do this. One is a delight. I would focus on the sister that's a delight. If the three are doing this, you can get my course. It's at the Ayn Rand bookstore.com, the Psychological Self-Defense.

But even short of that, the skills I gave you should help you out a bit with her. Okay, what's the name of the thing again? The book? Oh, it's a course. It's at the Ayn Rand bookstore.com. For more Dr. Kenner podcasts, go to drkenner.com and please listen to this ad.

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