All-In Inauguration Day Livestream with the Besties from Washington, DC!
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You know, this crowd is basically us and like a bunch of really old school people. You're alive. Okay. Testing one, two. One, two. Test one, two. Check, check. One, two. What? All righty. Hey, guys. Can you hear me, Chamath? Yes, I can. Okay, here we go. We're getting live right now. All right. In. Jason, you ready? I'm ready. You guys ready? We're ready. Dave, you ready? Jason, you ready? Count me in. Three, two.

All right, everybody, welcome to the All In podcast, special coverage of the inauguration of Donald Trump as our 47th president. If you are a Republican, congratulations. If you're a Democrat, please step back from the ledge. It's going to be okay. We got through four years before. We'll get through these four years. But we've got a lot of exciting guests with me today here on set.

from the amazing, what hotel are we in? We're in the Hyatt or something? Grand Hyatt. Grand Hyatt. From the grandest of Hyatts in the center of Washington, D.C., the Sultan of Science is here, David Friedberg. David, you went hard the first two days. Have you found a rhythm here to your party hopping at the inauguration? Shut the fuck up and just give me the ball. What are you doing?

I don't want to talk. I think we've got to. You guys can go fuck yourself. I'm going to run it how I want. Tell that guy he can go fuck himself too. All right. With us is an actual comedian. Akesh Singh is here. You know him from the Flagrant podcast. Welcome, welcome. Thank you guys for having me. Now, you are a fan of the pod, I understand. Yeah, yeah. You and I have talked on the interwebs. Yeah, we kicked the other Indian off the pod. We replaced him with me. Much poorer, but I feel like I'm not going to ask for the ball as much. Yeah, exactly.

So you know how to share the ball. Yeah, yeah. That's what you're saying. I'm a distributor. You're a great teammate, so welcome to the team. And then with us, recent convert to Team Red, Mark Pincus, hated now, originally hated by the right, now hated by the left. What's it like now? Have you found a balance there yourself? I have to say, sorry to sound a little politically incorrect, but it's kind of nice to be here in D.C. It kind of feels like...

maybe in the 80s if you went to like a gay convention or like I'm out, you're out. - Say more. - Seeing people from San Francisco who are out, I'm like oh there's some people that are gonna maybe welcome me in their home. I'm making a list. - Yeah, fantastic. Okay, so officially for all the journalists watching and losing their minds, Mark Finkus is coming out today. And we support you. - Thank you. - And we always knew. We had a feeling. - I know, you always thought I was. - All these years you and I had a great time. And now, live from the Rotunda, also known as the B-List,

our bestie, Chamath Palihapitiya in the overflow room. Going to you, Chamath. Oh, we lost him because he took too long. There he is. He's here. Looking good. Power tie. Chamath, can you hear me? We're going live right now to the Rotunda. Chamath is with a very special guest here on the all-in live stream. Chamath, can you hear us? All right. So what we're seeing here is a live view of... Oh, they're back. Hold on. They're back. Okay, great. Oh, wow. Look, we have Sam Waltman on the live stream.

This is amazing. We thought they were going to be blocking. Go ahead. Kick us off, Timoth. What's going on, guys? Well, Sam and I woke up at... What time did you wake up? I woke up at 6. Really? When did you wake up? I woke up at 6. That's tough. When did you go to bed? I went to bed at 1. That's a bit... Sam and I had to go through a whole rigmarole, get our wristbands, and we are now in the rotunda. I'm going to show you guys what it looks like here. Hold on one second.

Wait, he's in the room. How do you do this? Yeah, that's the legit place. He's in the meeting chamber. All right, folks, so we're trying to get a view from Chamath. Not an easy thing to do here, but there's the rotunda. This is Chamath. This is essentially the overflow room. Who's there? He can't hear you, J.K. Oh. Yeah, the rotunda is basically for the cabinet and the world leaders and then...

All of the other sort of folks are here. Sam is here. I'm here. We saw Theo Vaughn. We saw Logan Paul. We saw all kinds of people walking around. So we're going to try to grab some people from time to time. But we have about an hour to kill before the whole ceremony starts. What do you think? How has the weekend been for you? It's good energy. People are happy to go out and miss it. Yeah. What's been your favorite part of the weekend so far?

It's like a tech reunion. It really is, right? It's been fun. Yeah. I thought Peter's party was great. Peter's party was great. Peter's party was excellent. And then yesterday, did you go to the... I went to the dinner last night. It was a little chaotic. It was a little chaotic. But it was good. Yeah. And then tonight, you think you're going to... No, I'm going to... I hit my social battery limit. I'm going to hide outside. What about you? We were very committed to going. I'm just like, it's exhausting. My dopamine levels are a little low.

I need a little founder mode or something. It's like a lot of people. Yeah. It's a lot of social. You know what's amazing? There are seven, I guess, still living Medal of Honor recipients. And they walk around and you can see their medal. Yeah, that's beautiful. It is very cool. That is probably one of the coolest things I've seen. And it's like Moses. They are the seas for these guys. Super interesting people all around. It's incredible. Yeah.

Well guys, this is uh, we're gonna try to grab some more people. Can you give us a view? Yeah, let me try to give you a view. The only reporter on site at the Capitol today. Yeah. In the inside. No other reporters are there. Can you walk around? Can you see it? Yeah, can you walk around?

I mean I can try to I can try to walk around I was we were waiting I was trying to get Skye and Luke Nosek as well uh Matt's here good morning good morning good morning feed your husband otherwise he's gonna get it hangry I fed him and I have chocolate in my pocket he brought me some she brought me some chocolate and some nuts so that's good

And what did they tell you? One hour until you sit down and the swearing-in ceremony begins? Shamath, can you take us to the fast food buffet? Can you take us to the McDonald's table? Is there fast food in the rotunda? Jason's asking if there's fast food in the rotunda.

No, it's called Emancipation Hall. That's where we are. Emancipation Hall. So you can kind of see like we're all, yeah. This guy wearing a top hat. Yeah, what's with the dude with the top hat? All right, give us a random person. Just ask a question to a random person who's there. Is there anyone? Yeah, anyone on the street. Anyone else there that you know that you can grab Timoth or that you can just check in with folks? Timoth right here. Timoth right here.

Service is a little choppy. Here, hold on. I'm just going to say hi to Logan Paul. Hold on. No, we had a little technical glitch. Hold on. It's pretty good. I mean, it's odd. This view of Chamath is regrettable. For the cameraman here. Here we go. Here we go. Alex. Guys, they can't hear you. Oh, that's Jake, technically. Hey, hey.

That's so funny. Hey, Chamath. That was Jake Paul. That was Jake Paul, FYI. Chamath, ask Jake Paul if I could have my two hours back from the Tyson fight. Any chance I can get those two hours of my life back? They're all the same to you. Oh, my God.

That's so funny. Ask if it was rigged. Yeah, take us back to Logan Paul. Go ask him how his fight was. Go back to Jake Paul. Ask him if the fight was rigged. I'm pretty sure I saw Evander Holyfield. I should go say hi to Evander Holyfield. I'm sure you're going to get that one wrong, too. And that's going to be even more embarrassing. It's going to be Mike Tyson. Yeah, it's like Mike Tyson. Wow. Well, we're off to a strong start here. Our field reporter has no sense of pop culture or how to operate a camera. This is a video.

Complete utter disaster. - I saw Theo earlier. He really looked rough around the edges, like he needed a coffee or something. - Chamath, I really appreciate you telling us to hand you the ball when you've got the show, but I think you need to grab someone to talk to. All we're seeing is your face. Or flip the phone around, bro. - Literally only Chamath could make this about Chamath. His face. Today the president's getting inaugurated. - Look at me. - Let me tell you about my face. - Forget the president.

Akash, when you see this... Can you guys stop getting these cheap H-1B replacements for me, please? Ha ha ha!

Hey, I remember in eighth grade, I got invited to like the cool kids party and then no one wanted to talk to me and I had no one to talk to. That's what this feels like. We have there's a table at the end of the cafeteria where, yeah, you and Freebird can sit. Even Sam Altman just being like, we saw cool people. Yeah, wow. We're off to such a strong start here. An unlimited number of powerful and interesting people.

interesting celebrities that you will not get to hear from today. An incredible array from sports to the arts, politics to science, none of which you'll be able to see. But enjoy close-ups of Chamath. - Chamath, flip the camera around, bro. - Nice teeth. - We wanna see the room. - White teeth. - Beautiful teeth. - I don't know how I do that on Zoom. - It only points one way.

Literally just flipped the entire phone. Go back to Logan Paul. Somehow he grew Facebook from 4 million users to 400 million. Somehow that occurred on his watch. He still hasn't figured Zoom out. It wasn't video back then. No. No, that was not Logan Paul. That was Jake Paul. Did he do Logan Paul with Jake Paul? Yes, he did. Okay. It's okay. It's a good thing you're talking in his ear. Yeah.

All right, you want to flip the camera around? There's a little button. Or just turn the camera. Physically flip the camera. Just physically turn the camera. How do you do that? You just physically face the camera the other way. Okay. Just turn your camera around. Yeah, that's good. That's good. That's better. That's terrible. Turn it around and face the crowd. Just turn the phone around. Face the crowd? Look at the back. No, not you, the camera.

Literally flipped the phone over buddy. Give me your phone. Let me come on Can you just tell us who was there if you're not gonna show us describe it? Oh, dude He told us one of the Paul brothers. He doesn't know brother. Yeah Wow, it's it's a bar Logan Paul having congressional Oh great What a lineup

i would have loved credible i would have loved to meet some of them but can you can you just maybe grab someone we're going to cut back to the live feed here you go oh here we go okay oh no there's a celebrity that's a celebrity there's a celebrity sky dayton investor extraordinary sky you're on the live stream how many people are on this live stream by the way eight people okay we are going to cut back to the studio let us know when you've got a real celebrity to talk about oh sky all right

Ask him a question. Hold on. One, two, three. Luke. Luke. Okay, wow. Great. There's Luke Nwosin. I'm happy to be here celebrating President Trump's inauguration. I'm so glad to be here with you guys. I'm glad to see what our country could do with all of the people that are here right now. Wrap it up. Wow. Give them the light. And make America great again.

Okay. Thank you, Luke. Well, there it is, folks. Venture capital. Do you know what happens when Silicon Valley goes to Washington, D.C.? Unbelievable. I love that the only people we can talk to are others. I don't know, but we're going to cut off now. Chamath, we love you. Have a great time. Text me when you've got someone, and we'll hop back on the Zoom. I'm going to leave the Zoom open, okay? Okay, thank you. Okay, bye-bye. Okay.

Okay, here we are. Oh, that's his view of us. Oh, that's your view of us. Yeah, you're going to have to end that. All right, everybody. I guess there were a series of pardons today. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are we back in the room? Any thoughts on the pardons? And maybe...

Any people you would like to get see a part in, like a non-traditional part in out there? Any folks in the entertainment industry or comedy who deserve a part in? That's a good fucking question. I feel like we all got pardons in entertainment with the Trump win. That's the best thing about this is who's still in. Now it's like the liberals are going to get thrown in, I feel like. Got it. Who are you pardoning?

Wow. Well, I would definitely pardon Chamath for that incredibly brutal livestream. That's definitely... Because I think they're going to have a special committee. I think they literally just had a special council for him. So, yeah. Pincus, anybody, would you like to pardon Reid Hoffman? Anybody in your circle you'd like to pardon? Zuckerberg?

- Zuck could probably use a pardon, I mean just to be safe. - Just to be safe. - Probably good to just have one in his back pocket. - Well in all seriousness, our industry, when we got into it 30 years ago, politics was not part of this. Occasionally, I don't know, McCain would show up at an event and it was kind of an oddity and people were just not interested and now it's become an obsession.

What's your take on the best case scenario for this presidency, for this term? What's the best thing that could happen? Well, I guess the best thing that could happen is...

I think probably delivering on Doge. I think that the potential positive disruption there is that people could end up actually starting to have confidence in our government. And I think all of the mainstream media and all the haters, I just think it's going to be hard to hate. If you get anything near the scenario like Mile has shown,

In such fast time, I think it would be amazing for the country on a lot of fronts. I think people are going to have to acknowledge it if Doge actually does.

Delivers and and we need them to well, that's who needs a pardon Vivek bring them back bring it back This guy's running for this fucking governor of Ohio. Nobody's gonna vote for his brown ass bring them back to doge That's what we need. Well, I mean what you're saying is who knows how to save money better than us Exactly, and if you're gonna do IT we got an Indian guy that's Multitasking everywhere. Yeah

What happened? We clearly can't. I mean, just run the Zoom. What happened with Vivek over the last couple of days, Freeberg? It seems like he is, any insight? What's the buzz? Is he out at Doge? That seems to be what I saw in the headlines. And what are your thoughts on that? And what are your thoughts largely on Doge? Because let's be honest, you've been pounding the drum about smaller government for the last few years. I'm more disappointed than not in the conversations we had this week with congressional representatives regarding Doge.

it seems to be not just a disdain, in some cases kind of a masked disdain for the concept of Doge, but just a very skeptical refrain about it. It's not, you know, like Ted Cruz even yesterday, who claims he's a small government Republican, said, "I can't wait to hear their big, bold ideas."

The point he made is that anytime you try and cut spending, it's causing harm to some group, to some voting constituency, and ultimately the politicians are going to end up losing voters if

If they say yes to those things. This has always been the problem with democracy over the long run anyway. Everyone votes themselves all the money ultimately. And that's effectively what's been going on. So to actually go in and cut trillions of dollars of money that's going into some business or some individual's pockets is going to cause those businesses and those individuals to say, no, thank you. I'm not going to vote for you anymore, my current representative, because you voted for this.

so everyone will lose their elected positions. So I think without term limits, without the cycling of politicians, we're not going to see real legislative change. Now, what can they do administratively? There's a lot of ideas, a lot of

rumors and theories I've heard and we'll see what gets executed. What are some of the rumors people have heard about? Come back to the office or you lose your job. They can mandate that to non-unionized agencies where you don't have a union that's got a contract that says they're allowed to work from home. There's a lot of folks that don't have that contract where they want to say come to the office as an easy way to start, as a way for them to start to kind of

you know, have a right to remove federal workers and then not move fast to replace them is one theory, one rumor of something that they could do. And this would be the, what we call in the industry, the gentleman's riff. So a reduction in workforce where people have gotten used to staying at home and maybe they're working hard, maybe they're not, who knows. But if forced to come back to the office, you will get some attrition. You've seen this, yeah? Oh yeah. Yeah. How much attrition do you get actually? Because it seems like most people would just be like, all right, well, I don't want to lose my job, so I'll come in.

I would say in the tech industry, you would expect 20%. But there's another rumor that I've heard. I don't know if it's been publicly talked about, that there's a lot of workers who are working more than one job.

And so they're like working in Ohio where it's more affordable to live and their office is in D.C. And then they're doing other stuff locally. And the accountability factor might not be as strong when they work remotely in Ohio. So by and there's also this idea that get them to sign

I've heard this publicly that if you can get workers to sign a commitment to working one job, that could also have an effect. Well, you would think it's unethical to work two jobs from home. And there's a great subreddit. I think it's overworked or overemployed. Overemployed, probably. Overemployed. And so people in that subreddit are trading strategies of how to be on two Zoom calls like your daily stand up at the same time. My sister had three full time jobs at one point.

Amazing. Two in a consulting. All just, and nobody knew. They didn't know. Nobody knew. She was triple working. She was killing it, yeah. Working from home? Yeah. What about their opportunity? Okay, well, and now we know. Now you can file. Sorry. Sorry. I need a content. You just knocked on your sister. Well done. I need a content. What do you want me to do, content? I'm going to get content. Let's talk. You have something to add to that? Oh, just when you think about what can they do to send their control, there's...

70% of the labor spend is for outside contractors. So I'm curious how far they can push that because they might not have to go through all of the legal labor side to cut. I think it's 1.2 trillion total spent on labor. And so 70% of that 800 billion or so, 900 billion that they

from top down could go after. The other option that they've publicly talked about in their letter that they published a couple of months ago, a couple of weeks ago now, was if they drop regulation that's not legislated. So there's no law that says you have to do this regulation. As they cut back on that regulation, they no longer need to spend money on doing that regulation. And so then they have a right to

Even though there might be people, money flowing, they have a right to stop that money flowing and say, we're not going to regulate this thing anymore in this way. That's going to be another way to cut. They talked about this in their open letter, Elon and Vivek. I saw Vivek at the Crypto Ball. Yeah, let's go to the Crypto Ball. And I had a good chat with him. He was very friendly, but he is pretty serious, it sounds like, talking about doing this governor run.

And if you want to have a position that ultimately gives you a stepping stone to maybe having influence and doing big things. Kosh, you do any impersonations? Because I can teach you to do a vague very quickly. Please. Just do an Obama impersonation because that's what he's doing. It's just, it's perfect. My wife always says that. He's trying to do Obama. Literally trying to do Obama. So actually, the reason I don't like him not on Doge is because this was his whole platform was making government more efficient. But my thing, I think his issue is he,

When he talks to guys like y'all who are smart, you see what he really thinks. But when he tries to talk to regular people, I think he's so much smarter than them. He's like, well, they want to hear about the deep state and the NFL being fixed.

and that's when people lose him. So I don't think he's gonna be able to win a governorship. - But you're saying he talks down to people? - He doesn't know how to talk down even. He's like, well instead of saying, hey there's too many government jobs and we should cut them, he's like the deep state runs everything. And then I think regular people are turned off 'cause it sounds so conspiratorial, but he actually just means cut the bureaucracy. That's all he means. But he calls it the deep state 'cause he thinks that's what they want. - J.D. Vance has similar rhetoric. Does he do a better job, you think? Have you seen him talk much?

Yeah, JD Vance, I don't think is like, to me, he doesn't have any charisma, really. I'm not grabbed by him when he talks. Vivek, I actually think, could be more charismatic because he's doing Obama. Right. But it just, I think he can't communicate. Or like after the Super Bowl when the Chiefs win, he's like, the NFL is rigged. I'm going to put a stop to this. I think he thinks that's what people want to hear. Vivek said that? Yeah, he was on Twitter. What did you think of his...

Tweet about we need to have you know the problem with Americans is like this is like honest thing He said instead of calling it the last supper that you should call it the last tweet. Yeah That was like it like the career ender, but I thought I was in and that he actually feels that I don't necessarily agree to be honest or whatever But like that I knew was what he really thinks he was a kid that probably worked his ass off That's why he thinks he's successful and it is but he's like well, that's just do that and

Every successful person says, just do what I do. Do what I did. But at least, even if we didn't like it, that was the one time he was honest. That was the one time he's just saying what he feels and letting it go. Right. And then for people who didn't follow that, I don't know, did you see the tweet? No. The essence of the tweet, correct me if you guys think I get it wrong here, and we'll put it in the post. Should we pull it up? Yeah. It was essentially...

The problem is American kids are lazy, don't study enough, they spend too much time playing video games. They want to be the jock in high school instead of the nerd. They want to be the jock. It was kind of a combination of the American- But you think he's not authentic on Twitter? No, I think he's trying to communicate in a way that he thinks will understand it, but then he just doesn't know how to do that. Where I think if he's just himself and talks at a high level,

the people who get it, which would be most people, would be like, oh, I like what he's saying. That makes a lot of sense. But it just gets lost anytime he goes on like a different podcast that's not you guys or I think Flagrant, we were able to get a real sense of who he was. But before you guys met him, didn't you, what did you say to him?

Which one? I gave him a couple good, I sent him a fastball or two. Yeah, you sent some crazy shit to him, but it's like that's what you think of him when you don't get to talk to him. Yeah, I mean, I just wanted to clarify with him because he was very early on the trans issue. Yeah. And I was just like, hey, do you have a problem with gay people? Yeah. It's a two-part question. And he said, no. I said, okay, do you have a problem with trans people? And if so, what are the issues? And I thought he actually handled it pretty eloquently and he nailed it.

in some ways exactly what happened with the American populace, which is they don't have a problem with any trans adult, anybody dressing how they want, pick your hair color, pick your gender, pick your name, change it every week. But

I think any parents I've spoken to are very uncomfortable with the concept of doing surgery on a child to change their gender or giving them any kind of hormones because it's irreversible and your brain is still... Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think they wound up spending, what, $150 million on one ad, which was the Kamala...

She's for they them. That was the greatest political ad I've ever seen in my life. Why? Why was that one so effective? I think it just perfectly encapsulated what so many people were feeling, which is these people on the far... And I don't think... I truly think I'm moderate, but you watch the far left kind of hijack

The way I think the early Tea Party kind of hijacked to the right. The far left kind of hijacked it and that's what became Democratic Party. And so saying Kamala is for them. Those extreme people. Not even they them. The extreme people which calling them they them or calling Kamala is for them. Trump is for you or us or whatever it was. It was like, oh, I mean, anybody...

that's remotely in the middle is going to feel pushed a little bit to the right. Right. And then the cherry on top of it was the reaction was on The Breakfast Club. Oh, yeah. So, you know, you got Charlamagne, the God and everybody making these grimaces like, what? You know, that's whack. Like, what are you doing here? Yeah, that was also so smart. Yes. Pulling from having Charlamagne say, I don't agree with Kamala spending money on this. Right. That's the Kamala guy. So, right. Yeah. So smart.

Let's talk about crypto. We'll pivot to crypto. Anything to add on this issue? Now that you're unshackled and your chief of staff has- He's pissed at me. He's really upset with me about that. Yeah. Okay. For those who don't know, Mark came on the show and I was asking Mark, like, hey, you're kind of-

pretty effervescent and going for it now on the socials. And he's like, yeah, my chief of staff was kind of throttling me and kind of polishing me on the edges. But once I got rid of my chief of staff, essentially, I became my authentic staff. And I think probably people know who he is. And you had to make the clarification. To be clear, he wasn't even...

We worked together for nine years. He wasn't my chief of staff at that point. He had transitioned to being a co-founder of an effort that I've been on, but still advising me. And I said to him,

Think that you're right half the time and that's a lot like that's a big number You're really smart and everything he said was smart and so it did and he was kind of risk averse so I was like I will I listen to him because it was good advice. Oh I did want to add this I'm curious whether maybe you guys already all agree with this were we have a new

way of doing politics after this election that there's only authentic, like only long form. And you you're going to have your even the Democrats

aren't gonna be able to field a candidate that isn't the full color. And I wonder if this is even gonna go so far as people starting to overdo it on all the imperfection side. Like, no, I'm more imperfect. I'm more of a fucked up person than you are. Like, look how real I am. But I just wonder whether this base thing is gonna be the new norm. - It's definitely the new norm, don't you think, Freberg? - I've always felt like the worst thing about money in politics

is the fact that money actually affects politics. And that says that consumers or voters can be influenced by an ad. The fact that these people buy ads, do any of us look at ads and buy stuff from ads anymore? It's crazy to me that they'll spend a billion dollars on TV, radio, and print ads, and internet ads, and people change their vote. That's the craziest thing to me. I don't understand. I would never look at an ad. But do you think it works that people change their vote? Well, it must work, and that's the problem.

And I think like maybe what this is, is a solution to that problem, which is a very positive feature of like, you know, citizen journalism, podcasting, distributed media, the open Internet is that it enables that like authentic voice to win out over the paid media. Yeah. And then the paid media, I really do hope is worthless. And if it's worthless and spending money on ads no longer changes votes, then people will stop.

spending money on ads, and they'll stop raising money to go buy ads with the money that they raise so that they can get the-- whoever raises the most money

can buy the most ads. It's the craziest thing. - And being less beholden to whatever, SuperPAC or whatever. - And whatever gave them the money. And so I really do hope that what you're saying and the power of the internet, even though it's like 27 years a little bit late here from when I think we all thought it was gonna happen, like '97, it's like, oh my God, the internet's gonna democratize access to information. We're all gonna have access. It's gonna change the world. Democracy will run rampant across the earth. It's gonna be amazing. That hasn't really happened if you're still spending ads and you can control votes and you can buy votes with money.

Hopefully this is the change and the internet really is working and that would be pretty powerful and pretty amazing It'd be amazing if the money in politics thing just got solved by the internet totally well hating acts Yeah, what we're talking about here really is earned media versus paid media And if you look at Donald Trump, he can get on a livestream. He can do three hours I mean talk about like a if you're as a stand-up you watch that guy. I mean unreal. I

Unreal. It's just amazing. To do a tight five, tight 10, you might work a year on that, just in the beginning of your career. He's been ad-libbing and just reading crowds. He's so good at crowd work. He can look at the crowd and know, this time I need to lean into crypto. And his reaction when he was doing the fire Gary Gensler and we're going to do Bitcoin,

I don't know if you saw that when he was at that Bitcoin convention. He said, yeah, and you know, the reign of Gary Gensler is going to be over. And the crowd went nuts. And he's like, let me state it again. Yeah, we're gonna. And he just doubles down on it, triples down. It's just such a comedic instinct, isn't it? Oh, it's unbelievable. He can. He's socially. People make fun of him. He's socially maybe the smartest human being I've ever been around.

Like the we got to interview him in person, which was awesome. Oh, so we had a lighting set up like this. This is how funny and quick witted he is. And, you know, we have these lighting setups. There's big for people who can't see it. It's got like three prongs and we're on a couch like this. One lighting setup is next to me and he's going to have to walk by it. And one of the Secret Service people tripped on a light like a leg. So he said, hey, just make sure President Trump watches out for that.

So I said, okay. So I say to President Trump when I meet him, hey, nice to meet you. By the way, watch out for that, that lighting stand, I don't want you to trip on it. And he goes, oh, that would have been bad. That would have been a disaster.

I tell you, Joe Biden would have tripped on that thing. Oh! Camera's not even on. First words he says, boom, in. And it really is like, as a comedian, you're looking for the thread of what's going to get the laugh. And for him, it just-- he processes it so fast, and he drops it. Locks it, and then just goes and changes it. And this is why-- I don't want to make this a Vivek bashing event here, but I think Vivek

perfected over time doing what Obama did, which is behind a teleprompter and talking with a cadence that kind of hypnotizes people. But that is not that. It's not funny. It's not interesting.

By the way, Jason, so we have the live feed. Oh, yeah. So what you're seeing here. And this is, so like for the folks watching at home on YouTube and X, they're actually seeing this along with us. So the live inauguration feed is kind of coming in. This is the motorcade coming in, I assume, here. And it looks like President-elect Trump and President Biden are en route to the U.S.,

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Is that what you did? Well, I did fasting. Okay. I lost, I did that intermittent fasting thing. I used the Xero app. That would make that a lot easier.

And so I do the fasting I'm not eating I lose like 10 15 pounds I do a little working out lose couple more pounds, but you know you did What do you do moon jar or so? I started I did all three I started with the oz epic then I went to Whatever the other one isn't zero No, I wound up with man jar no and I take a very low dose now just to maintain but I'm pretty how often do you take it? I think I'm every 10 days. Yeah, I think this is I think this is where a lot of people are gonna end up it's like finding their own dosing frequency

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You probably get back to the hotel. Yeah, and you're like, oh my God, I should get a chicken parm or a burger from Grand Hyatt or something. I mean, that's the... I don't like speed. I don't cheat on my wife, but I cheat on my diet fucking every day. Right. So you're a cereal chicken parm philanderer. Yeah, yeah. And you can't control it. This is perfect for you. Okay, we're going to do another shout out for Aircall. They also helped build the set. You know these guys? I don't. Explain. Okay, there's an AI-powered...

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I guess CBS is speculating here that maybe or the C-SPAN is pulling up a story about maybe Vivek is no longer involved in Doge. So that was a rumor last night. Yeah. And he has not confirmed nor denied it. And we'll see what happens. But obviously, let's go to every I think a lot of people we all know are very anxious to see what is revealed about Doge this week. That's like a big thing in Silicon Valley and the world of business is like, how real is Doge? What's coming out this week?

It's got the most upside. It's the most asymmetric. If it does work, it could be a change in the entire philosophy of how we look at government. I was in Japan, and when you talk to business people over there, they brought up multiple times our national debt, and then what, having two and a half times, I think? Brad, Kirstner, what is the debt load for Japan? Is it two and a half times their GDP at this point?

Sounds about right. Yeah. And so I think that's the highest of any first world country. And I know Elon was around this weekend. Obviously, he's at the event today, last night and the event today. He's in the Capitol building for the swearing in ceremony. But despite being around all weekend, he was MIA, apparently working all weekend. So I think he's very dedicated to this Doge effort. He's obviously been very public and vocal about it.

But certainly, you know, anecdotally, which I'm not kind of revealing any secret preserved knowledge here, he's been totally absent and been locked down. Well, I mean, I have some insights. I think you're going to see, you know, a very...

My expectation would be you're going to see a team that is extremely dedicated from everything from IT to getting back to office. That's right. Coming in with a platform, and I haven't read it and I'm not involved in it so I don't want to restate it, but I think really the formation of the team is what's going to be the most compelling. And I will release some inside information, Mark Pingas,

There is a rumor that they were going to tap you to be involved. You had a couple of conflicts, I understand, but you wanted to come serve your country and take four years off from making money in the way you are uniquely qualified to do, starting an investment company. Were you going to work on Doge? He was recruited. I had some conversations. I was definitely intrigued and interested, and I was ready to take

the shittiest, least prestigious and potentially some pretty polarizing position for at least six months, moved my family to DC. This was not an ambassadorship or anything. You wanted to make software to make things more efficient. Yeah. I said, "Where's the most leverage if I'm going to really do this?"

And yeah, I say I was conflicted out because I've been such a big Democratic contributor and I'm such a recent addition to the Republican team. But I love what they're doing. And I just say that my own opinion, and this is not knowing anything, I think that it's going to over-deliver Republicans

Not to set expectations, they don't want that, but I think it's going to be more aggressive and over-delivered versus what the mainstream media thinks at this point. Really? Yeah, and it's a good time to buy U.S. Treasuries then. Yeah. I think a lot of the trade in Treasuries has been on the expectation of

that U.S. debt levels and deficit levels will continue to climb. And we're not going to get out of the spending problem we have. We're not going to get out of the debt bubble we're in.

And ultimately, if there's a real cut, and treasuries have been sold off and now yields are like 5%, seems like a good time to buy treasuries if what you're saying is real. I can tell you an interesting proxy that I do have is the number of folks who have asked me for an introduction to some of our friends who are involved. And so the second thoughts around AI, crypto, and Doge and efficiency were released, and

Every day, 10 people, 20 people sliding into my DMs, sending me resumes. Just, hey, can you get this in front of this person? And, you know, some of them were just kids in college. But some of them were people we know, like Mark or other people. Sundar and Elon up on stage at the inauguration together. Of course. Sundar, the CEO of Google. And they put all the tech folks together. We saw Sundar last night.

at the YouTube party. Yeah, Google did a little event last night, which we stopped in at thanks to YouTube for the support. And a lot of folks in Silicon Valley are here.

and are gonna sit with or near president and vice president today to show their support. And I think they're trying to highlight, and I'm just speculating here 'cause no one told me about the rationale for this, but putting some of America's most successful companies on stage and showcasing what the power of innovation

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - What we can bring. - What do you think? - I want to know the tea from the Google party. You guys were out last night, right? - We were out. - You've been out all weekend. - The Google party was the most tame of the parties this weekend. - Okay, let's get to the fun. - Okay, let's go to the parties. Okay, so-- - Well, I mean, starting with the crypto ball would be the most interesting one. - Do you have any photos from that?

We've got some photos here. We'll pull up a photo or two. But at the Crypto Ball, there were a lot of crypto people, obviously. But a lot of people in our circle. Is this on screen, guys?

Yeah. Okay, so here's Elon Vivek Sachs looking incredibly excited. This is just a couple minutes ago. It's been an hour ago. I don't know who the woman is. They're getting assembled for the swearing in. This is outside my hotel this morning. So JD Vance goes to that church where he was going there, so I got locked into my hotel, and then I couldn't go anywhere. That's the church across from the White House. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. No, no, the church across from the Hay... Hay Adams. Hay Adams. Which is right across from the White House. So they go in there and it's...

Oh, it is. Okay. Yeah, it's great. So we got blocked in this morning. It was pretty insane. I've never in my life seen so much security. It was like three blocks of Secret Service, military. It was crazy. I was walking down the street by myself. There was like, and everyone was like, what the, I was walking with a bag. There are Secret Service everywhere. There are dogs everywhere. There are tanks. There are Humvees. All kinds of things. Can we pull up a party photo, Nick, for maybe the Crypto Ball?

Okay, here's a partial crypto ball. Thank you. That was me getting ready. Keep going back.

There it is. The besties. And then we found J. Cal. Yeah, I mean, my strategy is always to come in the second half of the party. I never want to be there early. I come at the end. You know, it's a much better strategy, I think. Let everybody show up. You know, people get settled. Then I come in. I shake some hands, get some babies. I don't know if that's what happened, but I hear you. I came first the second half. And it was packed. And the number of people who... Well, everyone was there. How much did that raise?

Don't know it had to be I've heard of millions of dollars, and I don't know where the money went with tens of millions I think there's a crypto went to a group called MAGA Inc. Which I don't know what a super pack But like we were we were at Sax's guests Let's go back to the inauguration feed guys, but we were Sax's guests at the crypto ball and we saw Snoop Dogg

And, but everyone was there. - Sober Snoop? Sober Snoop is less exciting. - Definitely not sober. - Nice. - Definitely not sober. - It was a trail of hot. - I was at the room and he comes out the room. - You knew every time he walked through. - And he has a huge entourage and there's just a cloud that follows everyone and they walk through the room and you're just like contact. - It was the most uncomfortable dancing you've ever seen. - It was all white people.

And then it was a subset of white people, white people who are passionate about crypto. Never have a group of people dance so poorly. Here I am with Lex and Chamath. Lex and I have a serious bromance going on in Austin. Yeah, he's great. Hello, I am Lex Friedman. Today, with love and peace in my heart,

interviewing dictator Idi Amin, who has eaten half of his enemies. We will share love, kindness, and a fatty liver. Enjoy. Yeah, so that's my Lex. Yeah. Which is, you just use a robotic voice, and then you pair love and joy with the most despicable person ever. Which is what his gift is. Shout out to my guy, Lex. Oh, I'll say, I had to...

I had a VIP pass for the crypto ball, but for some reason, then the VIP line was so long, we went in the GA line. Yes. That must have been brutal for you. First time you've been in a GA line in a long time, Mark Peggis. But it gets worse. So then they give us the white armband, not the VIP one. Okay. So you were in Gen Pop. Gen Pop. I was in Gen Pop.

So then we had to sneak into the VIP. So Shane Copeland, who's good at that, I don't know if that's-- - CEO of Polymarket. - CEO of Polymarket said, "Just follow me." He took me and my daughters. - Of course, Shane is the guy that knows how to sneak through parties. - Yeah, he's amazing. He just said, "Just have the confidence," which we've done this before at film festivals, so we kind of knew. And he just walked us in. Then we're in the bigger VIP room.

And then our friends pulled us into the smaller bar. The VVIP. The actual VIP. And that's when I knew I was at the party. Yeah, there was the main room, the VIP room, and then the VVIP room, which was where... Well, Donald Trump Jr. came. Don Jr., Ted Cruz, Vivek...

A lot of folks came through. The thing with the parties this weekend is every night there's a lot of parties going on, and everyone's driving around town stopping in from party to party. All of the political folks are trying to stop into all the parties because they want to meet the donors and the lobbyists and the influencers and the executives that are all in town. There are several heads of state in town, many CEOs from companies all over the world are here. You go to all these different events and they all want to stop in.

We had our event last night, the all-in party. That was actually pretty great. Which was awesome. Big shout out, by the way, to our friend, Sunny Madra and Grok. They sponsored for that party, which was awesome. It was a great party. You know, and just to wrap on the crypto party, there's been an amazing amount of speculation here 24, 48, 48 hours after it. While we were there,

Trump or perhaps baron Trump. I don't know exactly who's doing all this Trump decided to drop a meme coin Fuck and it went to 30 or 40 billion dollars and so we're sitting there and it's pretty amazing because Gary Gensler who was running the SEC he's out and

He ruled with an iron fist. He said, you know, there's a rule book here. Play by the rules. We're not changing the rule book. We have a rule book. Yeah. That's how it works. And crypto has to fall into the same rule book as an IPO or a private company or private equity. Pick your lane and then follow the rules. If you have any questions about the rules, you know, here's a website where you can look them up. Now, crypto is...

A bit speculative on the margins, I would say. People call these meme coins. The colloquialism also is shit coins. And if there was a question about how these coins will work or how crypto is going to work, I think YOLO is how I would describe the administration's policy now on crypto.

What were your thoughts when you saw this? And then a Melania coin dropped 12 hours later. Yeah. And was that on pump.fun? I don't know if it's like this. Explain what pump.fun is. It's a website that lets people create meme coins. I think they create like 20,000 a day through this.

I was shocked as these guys launched one of the more popular meme coins from my office called AI16Z. And just to be clear, it's not a shout out to it. I don't own it. I didn't buy it. They said, you have to buy this, get in. And I was like, I don't even want to be associated with buying one of these that goes up and then down. It never even occurred to me that

that Trump would actually, or anyone I knew would actually go launch one. And theirs went up to a $2 billion market cap. So it would have been good. - The public reaction and the vibes when I talked to crypto people, I actually saw Michael Saylor at the crypto party. - Did you talk to him? - Well, you know. - Tell him your thoughts. - You have been extremely negative about him publicly. - Not him.

of the financial strategy of taking out billions of dollars in loans and then trying to corner the market and be the largest shareholder of Bitcoin, which is antithetical to the concept of Bitcoin, somebody cornering the market. Also taking out loans and something that has that much volatility

I don't know, Mark, what you think? I'm with you. It's nothing against the guy, but I actually thought, "Oh, shit, when I came back and took over Zynga, we had like a billion two or billion three in the bank and a better business than his core business. Why did I think of that? We should have just bet it all on Bitcoin. It was a lot earlier. This was 2015. I think Bitcoin was down then at like

$240, $800. I'd be the visionary. The key word there is bet. So I just decided I would defuse the whole thing. And somebody had handed me a Bitcoin, physical Bitcoin, not actually one, but it's a Bitcoin audit. And I said, "Michael, I'm a huge fan." I hit him over his shoulder and I whispered, "What should I do with my Bitcoin? I have a Bitcoin. What do I do with it? Should I keep it or sell it?" And he turned around, "Well, you want to keep Bitcoin for..." And he's like,

J-Cal. And he just, you know, shook his fist at the son and smiled. And I said, come on the pod anytime. He has an open invite to come on. I sent him a note to check in and he refused to...

Come on, so why don't you think I think we've passed that part of the story here? If you if you have any would you say enough negative shit about a guy's business sale? He thinks he thinks like maybe I don't really have a shot at turning the guy Why hasn't Benioff come on? I thought he was him in Lonsdale any office on the show I mean he did a talk at but I thought he wanted to come on and talk to Lonsdale No, that one may still happen that may still have to do it I may do it on this week in startups or if we have time we'll do it on here but he

know benioff we don't just take it behind the scenes i don't believe we should ever do any conditions on any interview and benioff had conditions he wanted to do just sax and you know set the agenda and stuff like that and i think you mean at our summit at the summit and you know freberg runs it i trust him as my partner he does an incredible job i did it it was but it was this was the last minute thing we were all going to talk to benny off on stage he wanted to go one-on-one with sax very last minute while in the well everyone else is kind of like

getting ready, scattered. It was a very kind of like situation where I'm going on only if Sax is... Why was that? He wants to control the message. Well, that's one way to interpret it. I think it's just he told me a lot how uncomfortable it is to be interviewed by four people. It's like being thrown in the viper pit. I mean, that's kind of the...

the point is like he'd rather have a one-on-one dialogue with someone and be able to go deep and not have like all the questions i think that that's kind of what it felt i would have told him he's not speaking but i deferred to well this wasn't just to be clear this was like a game time at the show minutes before situation where we had no one else to go on so yeah but i mean just and if you do anything like this

We had him at the All In Summit on stage. And he did a one-on-one with Sax. And it wasn't great. I mean, you can read the comments. I mean, it got savaged.

people who thought it was too self-promotional. And it wasn't the gestalt of all in, which is, or the currency of your podcast. It's like, be honest, be authentic. Have a real conversation. He's been at it a long time. And like you said, with your chief of staff controlling messages, he's got a group of people around him who are crafting a message, and he's staying on message. He wants to talk about his philanthropy, which is amazing and awesome.

He's done so much for the city of San Francisco. Except for Prop C. Except for Prop C, which is a completely different disaster. Okay, so let's go back to the parties. But I will call you out if you've got to do anything like that immediately. Okay, let's go back to the parties. Let's go back to the parties. Good parties. What were your favorites this weekend? The all-in party? For sure. Explain the party. What was the vibes? Well, well.

I think that, before I get to that, the back bar at the Crypto Ball, that was a good start. I thought that was great. Who did you meet there? Anybody notable? Honestly, I reconnected with a bunch of tech friends, with Peter Thiel.

You guys were in a long, about a half hour discussion. I wanted to get in on that, but what were you talking about? What were you talking about? Well, I mean, broad strokes, broad strokes. Well, honestly,

I'm trying to broker peace when I can. Whenever I step in it, I know it was wrong, but I'm trying to broker peace. Between whom? Peter and Gawker? No, between Peter and Reid. They've been friends for life and they had a deep falling out over all this. And it was a bad idea because I think I might have really...

pissed Peter off. He looked really... Uncomfortable? Angry after that. I think he just... Yeah, that was not maybe the right lead in there. I think it's good work. You know, sometimes you have to... You know, my philosophy is sometimes you have to go through it to get to the destination. Yeah. And you got to go through sometimes some uncomfortable...

You know, storms, et cetera. The hard thing, and it was great reconnecting with Travis. Yes. I love him. I ran into this guy, Rick Thompson, who oddly ran Playdom, who was like my arch competitor. And they literally burned me in effigy. Like they hated me and my company so much that they burned a Mark...

mannequin on stage. But he was really nice and happy to see me now. He's like an animal farmer. And here's the rotunda, and I think I just saw Sax talking to Vivek on the wing. Can we hear audio or no? Yeah. So they're all filing in. They're filing in. I saw Mike Pence go in. He's going to... Oh, we can drop that. That sounded like Pence. I thought that was... Mike Pence is going in to also face the guillotine. This is the ceremonial guillotine of the non...

The non-loyal to Trump individuals. But you saw Pence and Trump shook hands at the Carter event. He said on our pod, he was like, Mike Pence is a good man. It's just unfortunate they didn't have the heart to do what it took or what was necessary. Overthrow the government? Yeah, which is a wild thing to say. But yeah, he didn't seem to have any ill will toward him. Yeah, I mean...

i mean it was it was a wild day you know sometimes you've been at some hollywood parties i mean it's out of control it's a little out of control kind of yeah i got j cal turned it around now he's like it was a little out of control today being as facetious as possible with that one i will never forgive trump yesterday who i mean if if you it's the lamest it's the lamest insult

you know, immature people can do, which is to tell you if you criticize somebody, if you criticize some of Trump's behavior, that you have TDS. And it's brilliant. It's a brilliant way to do it because they're putting on you the ownership of some of the crazy things Trump does. And I can tell you, we're going to be in for four years of chaotic moments. Don't take it all so seriously. We'll get through it.

And there'll be things that are confounding to people, like pardons. And today we had a bunch of pardons. We'll have a bunch of pardons, I'm sure, from Trump. You're not going to agree with most of them or some of them? Here come the Supreme Court justices. Okay, here come the Supreme Court justices. This is the ceremony where they come in and they get free flights to amazing vacation destinations.

- Think of your flight voucher here. - Yes, they're each getting, you see there, there is the Falcon 900, there is the G650, each-- - If you're a new Justice, you get a Hawker 800. - A Hawker 800, each Justice receiving their ceremonial private aviation. I mean, it's crazy. These guys are supposed to represent and be the highest authority, and this guy's going, I don't know which one it was, but I read the grift.

He's on cases for this billionaire and he's going on vacation with him. Clarence Thomas, right? I don't know if it was Clarence Thomas. I mean, disgratia.com. No, come on. It's so disgrational. No, no, no. We're not going to get into it. That's a longer conversation. We should actually talk about this on a show, but it's a good topic. I mean, just here's an idea. If you're a Supreme Court justice...

There's a lot of politicizing of Supreme Court justices as well. So we should make sure we do the proper analysis of what actually happened and whether it was reasonable or not. Here's the proper analysis. Don't be a fucking grifter. I like that. Shoot from the hip. Yeah. This has gotten him into really good places. Yeah. Well, you know, every week the podcast is in the top 10. So...

- I'm with you, I'm with you. - Seems to be working. - Wait, wait, wait. - What will you say next? - We keep going on. So other parties that you love. - Other parties. - Peter Thiel's party. - Peter's party, yeah. - Was? - Peter had a party at his house, which was in the New York Times. - We can talk about that. - It was described in the New York Times and we all went, so we can talk about it. - And our names were there. - Now Mark, was your name included in the New York Times? - No, I was happy. - And this is crushing for you. - No, I was happy because this probably isn't gonna help, but I have some friends in San Francisco that,

I didn't lie, but I didn't advertise to them that I was coming to the inauguration. They know that I'm pro-Trump, but I think it just adds salt to the wound. So I'm happy when I'm not in the New York Times. I was mentioned as having gone to West Palm Beach because there's a reporter who sat outside the transition office

And that somehow even made it. It monitored who went in and out. Yeah. Well, you know, I will say this. You went to Mar-a-Lago. No, I didn't. Nothing that glamorous. I went to the transition office and helped people.

interview some people. I didn't get invited to my office. There's a huge lesson here for Democrats, if they have any hope of reconstructing their party, which is you and I, very critical of Trump. Chamath, people are retweeting his old tweets about Trump. He wasn't David Sachs' preferred candidate, was the way he said it last year when he was backing DeSantis. All is forgiven,

And if you are a supporter now and you can be part of the party, even if you had differences, and even if you're not in the party and you're somebody like myself who just calls balls and strikes and I'll call out chief justices or I'll call out Pence or whoever, they still invite you to the party.

And that's, I think, a very important message for the Democrats. Yes. This tent is so open that somebody who gave millions of dollars to the Democrats- Sergey. Yeah, I saw Sergey last night. Yeah, Sergey's here. They'll have Sergey here. Sergey, Trump was saying, oh my God, we have to break up Google, there's censorship or whatever. And now they're at the table. This is the problem with the Democrats. We were at an off-the-record dinner. Let me tell you what was said.

I love that. Didn't land? I love that. You were at an off-the-record dinner. I love that. Was I at the off-the-record dinner? Yes. We won't say who it was for, but we were at an off-the-record dinner. Can you make that as a hint? That's right. No, it was an off-the-record dinner. It was for a... Not supposed to talk about it. It was for a technology company. This is what's fun. It was for a technology company, and they had some podcasters there. I'll leave it at that. And...

There was a lot of right wing people there because we're here at Trump's inauguration. And so I got to meet a lot of the right wing people. This is literally an off the record dinner. Yeah. So I'm just giving, but I'm not saying what it is. But I had a conversation. I'm going to get disinvited to shit because of my association. After we left the dinner, at the bar afterwards, we had some conversations. Yep. So at the bar afterwards, there's always a good conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And somebody was saying, you know. This is not off the record. No.

The problem with the Democrats is they need to have their own Joe Rogan. They need a Joe Rogan. And I said, you know, they had a Joe Rogan. They kicked him out of the party. Do you know what his name was? Yeah, it was Joe Rogan. It was Joe Rogan. He voted for... It's the first time I think in his life he's voted Republican. Yes, and he previously was a Bernie Sanders Democrat. That's not just a Democrat. Elon...

I remember when we were coming up, Elon was so excited to meet Obama, that first presidency. Elon was like, I waited like six hours in the rain to shake the man's hand. He was so excited. And back to like having an inclusive tent. And then Biden didn't, had an EV summit, didn't invite him. You know? And I think that's like, you know, a huge lesson here. And the Californians literally said, get out of our state. We don't want you here. And he's like,

- Noted. - Message received. - Message received. - Yes, and so this is the big lesson. How big can you make the tent? Trump took, I don't know, half the positions of the Democratic Party. - Well, I think the best commentary, we talked about this last night at the dinner we were at, which was not off the record, it was just a fun friend's dinner,

there was a conversation that or someone made this commentary, which I think is absolutely correct, which is the Democrats seem to be the most organized party. And they have everything buttoned up. So the messaging is right, who does what the hierarchy, the structure of the system, whereas because the Republicans are more freedom, leave us alone, individualistic, I don't want to be they're not as organized. And they're also not as

tight bound on what you have to say and what you don't have to say. Republicans seem to be more open to- They're freewheeling. Having everyone come in and be critical. Sure, they'll be critical back. They'll say negative stuff as well. They'll say things that you don't want to hear, but at the end of the day, they're still, okay, come on, let's have the conversation, is what the commentary was because they're much more about the individual versus the system, and the Democrats are more of an organized system. It's very interesting to me. When

They were having this party, Peter Thiel's party, and I guess Sax and Jackie were the co-hosts, I believe. And I...

I thought that party was off the record. Well, I mean, it's in the New York Times. It's in the New York Times. Yeah. So what was funny was their New York Times reporter was camped out on the sidewalk. Yeah. Teddy. Shout out to Teddy. And Teddy was taking photos of everyone. And Chamath's like, Teddy, I got a quote for you. Fuck you, Teddy. He jumped back in the car. It was hilarious. And Teddy laughed. And then I looked at Teddy. I said, he says that to me, to us every week. But Chamath was obviously doing it as a joke to Teddy because he knows him. But yeah, the guy was camped out watching the whole thing. But what I'll say is, just to get you behind the scenes, I said to some of the folks who were going, listen, I

"Listen, I don't want to go if it's uncomfortable. "Because I've teed off on certain things, "and so you don't have to include me in anything "if it makes certain people uncomfortable, "if I've been too critical or whatever." They were like, "Absolutely not. "We want you there, Jayco." And there was a particularly spicy Republican there who's an online provocateur, and we had a 20, 30 minute conversation. I won't say who it is, but he got to meet his wife and his kid, and people are extremely spicy online.

Then you meet him and this person had said some very spicy things about me online.

they'll never say it to your face. Never. And then they would incredibly quarrel in person. I think that's another important lesson. I mean, yeah, I would like to at least acknowledge what was said. But yeah, in general, like you were kind of saying, it feels like being a part of the Democratic Party is like being a part of some old company that's been around for 100 years. You can't say anything. And then the Republicans right now seem like a fun startup where they got beer in the office and play ping pong whenever you want, take as much leave as

like Patagonia or whatever. It's just like, hey, man. The Republicans are Patagonians. Yeah, they're Patagonians. They probably love it. They sleep under your desk. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Do what you got to do. And I think that's a very welcoming, inviting, exciting thing right now. There was a great party. What's your political... I truly...

I think I was, 2020 I definitely did not want Trump to win. 2024, I still didn't, I was okay with it, but I was like, I don't know, I just remember all the noise from the first time Trump was president, and I was like, I don't want that. But once he won, I was like, okay. And then I thought RFK, I think, could do a lot of great things with the food, like, you know, taking out a lot of the chemicals and stuff like that. I think Doge is awesome. So I am very bullish on what this could be. Yeah. But I don't typically like... How do you end up on your podcast, Trump?

So I don't even that we were talking back and forth for a while I think Donald Trump jr. Is a fan of Schultz and then they were talking and I think Alex Bruce with the same He's the guy that like kind of was trying to work it out But we they wanted us to come to Mar-a-Lago first and we were like we don't want to do that We want Trump in our studio That would be the best and then we couldn't get that to work with that the compromise was yeah, New York So the compromise was Trump Tower in New York

Trump Tower. Yeah. Which was awesome. Did you build a studio? We built a studio that day. I mean, I wasn't a part of that, but everybody works in the pod behind the scenes. Was it as nice as this studio sponsored by Ham's? No, no, no. And? No, not as nice. Their call. 70% as nice. It was hers. Okay. How's your nighttime erection going? Have

Honestly, solid. But I'll be honest, I had the flu. And for like two weeks, I just didn't get hard. And I was like losing my mind. I thought it was over. Got in your head, right? Yeah, I'm 40. You thought you were done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You worked out. Yeah, I got a couple this weekend, though, so we're back, baby. It's kind of like that second or third scotch. You know. Yeah, yeah. You're going to need to get a HIMSS. Exactly. HIMSS.com slash all in.

Wait, what is the address? Tims.com. If you're going all in. Yeah. We recommend. Oh, Obama's showing up. Obama's showing up. Is there any audio guys or is it all just still shuffling in? That's fine. You're just hearing clapping. I mean, oh, and there's Hillary. Yeah. President Bush. President Clinton. Interesting. Did you hear this? That Michelle Obama. Not going. Not going. Didn't go to.

There's Dana White behind Barbara. Dana's awesome. Dana White. Do you know him? We had him on the pod. He's fucking awesome. They're getting divorced. Jennifer Aniston. What? Who? That is a rumor. Who? Michelle Obama and Jennifer Aniston. Wait. Michelle Obama.

Michelle? I'm sorry. Barack Obama and Jennifer Aniston. My man, my man, my man, my man. Wait, you said Trump's dating Aniston? No, Barack and Jennifer Aniston are apparently. That's me. Come on. This timeline is crazy. Yeah, yeah. I mean, literally the multiverse split. I don't know if Loki did this. I like how someone can say something and then everyone's like, it's a rumor, and then it becomes a thing. Yeah. Like everyone, you almost will. Okay, here's a Supreme Court justice. Yeah.

I think Michelle didn't come because she saw Barack having fun with Trump. And there's nothing a wife hates more than a husband having fun without her. Yeah. And that's really, that was a final straw. You know what my favorite part of the Carter funeral, I mean, it was a terrible situation, but like. The death of Jimmy Carter, top 10. The best part was the Bush tummy tap. Boom. Boom. How great was that clip? He's awesome. You're like, what's that guy up to now? Yeah, he should have never been president. Just be MLB commissioner like he wanted to. Yeah, play the game.

Have you ever seen the clip where they went behind the scenes and he gets in front of the camera and he's like, and I want to let the terrorists know that they will face shock and awe and the American people are not going to stand for radical terrorism.

Now watch me hit this five on it. Oh, yeah. He's like, what? I was like, that is so big. Now watch me hit this drive. Now watch me hit this drive, motherfuckers. Boom. 10,000 people, 20,000 people watching the stream. Share the stream with your friends. Give a retweet. Hopefully Chamath will get his Wi-Fi up and running and we'll go live to the inauguration itself. But it looks like Trump is going to be

sworn in. And this is not happening outside. It is so cold here. It is unbelievable. Last night's party was fun. I went to the Uber X party and I have a new bestie, Lex Friedman, and I have been rolling deep. And, you know, I only did this because I saw, you know, Friedberg is such a fan of Lex and he hasn't been on yet. And I saw Friedberg.

he was looking at lex with that look of science love so funny and he is looking at him and i'm like we hung out with likes two nights jason's like are you guys going in the car together where are you guys going to go i mean it was they were having such a nerd off they were talking about like he's a man i mean i'll tell you you got a man crush be honest i know i think he's a great i think he's a great human yeah he's a great guy and uh we sat next to each other at this off the record dinner the other night and then i

and then i we started chatting we had great conversations he's a very good chemistry too very real very genuine yeah like just a great person great person anyway say more had a great time well i i met him at some party the other night and i said nice talking to you great meeting but

i don't want to miss a seat at the poker game and he said are you going to play darling guys i said i maybe i think and he's like do you think chamath will be there i want to come with you and he drops whoever we were talking about i see this i see that this is like oh man i found you right so i'm like you know i'm the i'm the captain of the football team i'm gonna go take the girl

So I just go right over. I'm like, Lex, how's it going? Are you describing yourself? Because you're more of like the water boy. Yeah, I like that. I'm the captain of the boat, so I go and I just take the girl. Watching all the guys doing their workouts. I just take the girl right out of his hands. I start talking to Lex. Lex and I are, you know, because we're pals. We start talking shit and everything. We're pals. We go to the Uber party. And Lex is a little sad because he broke up with his girlfriend. It's okay. You know? And I can speak a little bit out of pocket here because I was like, Lex, um,

If you need to be a girl, just point out which girl you want to talk to. And you'll wingman it. And I'll wingman it. Yeah.

I look over and there is a model who's six foot whatever. She is stunning. Which night was this? This was last night. Oh, after I left. So I literally, I'm sitting there with Dara from Uber, Lex, and we're having this nice conversation, talking shop. And I'm like, I'm going to be right back. I'm going to meet this girl. This girl's talking to like two guys, you know, tall, blue eyes, finance, trust fund guys. I walk up to the guy. I said,

"Pardon me, I just need to talk to you for one second." I said, "May I talk to you for 45 seconds?" And the girl's like, "Sure." And I was like, "I've got a great friend over here. "He's a little introverted. "He's single, and by any chance, are you single?" She said, "Yeah, I'm single." I said, "Would you like to meet my friend Lex? "He's amazing." And I point to Matt and she goes, "Oh." I said, "What does he do?" I said, "Oh, you know, he works in podcasting or whatever." And she's like, "Oh, okay, yeah, I'd love to meet him." And I start out, "She doesn't know who Lex is." Literally, Lex got stopped.

Twice as much. A model didn't know who Lex... I guess. Fair enough. Is that what's happening? Yeah. Well, I guess she's watching Lex Freak. She's like, oh, I'd love to watch this Ukrainian interview. I thought she was a fan. I assume she's a fan of Sam Harris. Oh, no, you've got... Oh, yeah. I figure she's a fan of Sam Harris. I'm not a fan of Sam Harris. You're a fan of Space Time. I figure...

You know, she might be into quantum physics. Yeah, yeah. She could be into global politics. Let's see, whatever. I sit her down. She is enamored with Lex. Really? Enamored with Lex. After meeting him. After meeting him. Not knowing who he was. He gets the number. Wow. They're going out next week. Wow. Wow. Yep. You're revealing this? This is exclusive news. Well, the reason I'm revealing this is I am now. You get Lex's permission for it? No, I don't need Lex. Lex is on the Washington election right now.

No, he did. He just texted me that he's doing a great job. So anyway, I am now curating. I am the gatekeeper.

For Lex. I think matchmaking could be a very good business for you, J. Cole. I'm going to matchmake. Celebrity matchmaking. Celebrity podcast matchmaking. This could be a good series on YouTube. Honestly, yeah. This could be big. So if you're elegant, classy. I wasn't just on Raya. Smart. I invested in the company. I cold mailed them and I info at Raya app and said, I use your app every day. I want to invest.

And this guy, Jared from Facebook was CO and he's like, "Pinkus, you idiot. I told you." - Check your email. - And then I invested and their VCs had given up on them. And so I invested. - How's it going over there? - They're crushing it. - They are, huh? Have they gone? 'Cause like the thing with all dating apps is they always start with like a niche.

And then after they get the niche going, if it's going to burn out, they have to go wide. Yeah, I got some friends on Ryan. It's like any nightclub, right? The nightclub starts exclusive. And then once it goes mainstream, people stop going. Here's the thing. My feature act, my opener on the road is on Ryan. Nobody knows who the fuck this guy is. What are you doing on Ryan? Right. But I'll say this.

My take is dating apps are a one out of 10 experience and Raya is a three out of 10. So I say it sucks three times less. And it's because there's a human curation level. So there's like some, and you have to have a real identity. It's connected to your Instagram, assuming they've had it. So it's at least checked by somebody or other. And you can see if you,

By the way, I'm not trying to shill them. They don't even want me talking about it. They're doing that well. Totally. Yeah. Speaking of companies we're going to shill, may I once again recommend the folks that paid for our set. HIMS. Go to HIMS.com. A lot of guys on Raya probably use HIMS. Splash all in. Yep. I think so. They should do a collab. They really should. Abra.

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You know, we have like a little consensus thing with the pod. Hey, is everybody cool with this? A little vote. There's four of us. So, you know, three or four, we go. Dax was originally going to pay for our party, by the way. And then he said, well, why don't we all split it? And that's when we said, okay. Yeah. So then all of a sudden, Freberg was on the hook for 25 dives. Freberg's like, you know what that adds? By the way, the good thing is that the party went from like, it was originally going to be like 50 people.

in a room at the net. Just 250. Suddenly 250 taking over the whole freaking place. And we're like, I don't know. Maybe we should get a sponsor. Once Freeberg was on the hook for 25 dimes. It was a lot more than that. I was like, we're selling a sponsor. Well, I think it was well over 100K. And so he's like, well, I'm personally on for 25 dimes. I'm reconsidering. So this guy's selling it.

Sponsorship 48 hours. I mean, like, it's great. They're great companies. And we know them all. We're investors in them. We're all investors in Grok. Yeah. And we were at dinner with Sonny. And Sonny's like, I'll pay for the thing. It was great. And we're like, thank you, Sonny. We love you. So Sonny at Grok. By the way, this is a better way to do the ads because it's tougher to skip. On podcasts, you know, I can go plus 30 seconds, plus 30 seconds. Yeah, no, we're dropping them randomly. And we're making jokes. Shit.

You got a lot of sponsors. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Everybody watches All Man, dude. And just shout out to our friends at the Flagrant Podcast. Go ahead and subscribe to Flagrant Podcast. They've got twice as many subs as us because, candidly, they're funny. And check out Akash. Models watch our podcast. Gaslit. You guys can negotiate with Trump over location. Hour-long special. Gaslit. Hour-long special. Yes, sir. That's on where? It's on YouTube. Awesome. Yeah.

I saw wait so that's the one it's got like four million views yeah yeah yeah yeah and there's Barron Trump can we hear the audio or not and there's Elon uh Barron do you guys think Barron is um the character from the uh so what do they call him what's the term Jake how you know this I thought you were gonna go with Omen in June what do they call him like the the guy that sees the future

Yeah, I'm not sure. It was Joe Biden. Oh, is Joe Biden here? Oh yeah, there he is. If you look at the blankie and

And the couch in the back, there's Biden. You can see Biden taking a ceremonial nap. He's in nap time right now. He's sitting. They can't see him because he's on the couch. As is customary, the outgoing president is taking his nap. Taking his nappy poop. And yeah, he'll be right back. They're getting him his juice box. Oh, and there's Apple Tim Cook. Tim Cook. Apple Tim Cook. He looks thrilled to be there. Oh my lord, look at Tim Cook. He's like...

I've got to go back to San Francisco.

and face my employees. I looked unhappy. He looks like a hostage. And then look at Elon. He's like really processing it. He's like, this is going to be awesome. Elon's like, when is this going to be over? Right now, Elon is solving season nine of Diablo in his brain. Yes. While figuring out the architecture of the first moon base. Is that Eric Trump? That's who that is. It was Eric Trump. Blocked me on X many years ago. Blocked you? I don't know. I said something. One of the few, huh? Yeah, one of the few. What is it?

He is the principal behind all these great coins. I'm impressed they're not on their phones right now. I think no phones in the arena, probably.

except they got those bags how great are those bags that you have at comedy clubs this is the greatest thing ever oh yeah yeah the yonder bags yonder yeah shout out to yonder yeah they make life tolerable yes and they brought comedy back yeah they really did why because you can't film it live well yeah so a lot of times if a comedian's working on jokes a lot for especially if it's like playing with the line it starts off too far but

But then you kind of refine it because the audience doesn't laugh and then you find the place where it's funny. But if an audience member films it early in its inception, then it seems really unfunny. The punchline is ruined. It's probably more offensive. And then you're just kind of fucked. You can't do that joke. So getting people to lock up the bags helps a lot. And then they're more present and they're less likely. I see it in my shows. We don't have the yonder bags yet, but like people will be filming and whatever. And I don't mind, but they're just like distracted.

Because they're not trying to film the bit, but they're just doing like a Instagram. Do you do a lot of live to work on your stuff? We went to some club in Manhattan that was like down.

not downtown, but like in the teens. And it was amazing. I hadn't seen live comedy in so long. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - They were crushing it. - Yeah, it's all live and then you'll do some shorter shows like that to like work on the hour you're building. - You know what's a bit annoying? I heard that people are doing, and I don't know if you're doing this, but they're kind of staging the crowd work. - I would never. - And I was like, you would never do that. - I don't think people would do that. - That is so annoying. Well, they're like kind of doing their bits,

in a stage, in a set, and then releasing it on TikTok, and then it's not an actual bit. It's like super highly produced.

Oh yeah, I can't imagine. To me that's like stealing a joke or... And you know what's funny is, Andrew and I came up and we do a lot of crowd work, but we started in this place where we would have to get you in off the street and we would do shows for like three people sometimes, five people sometimes. So you couldn't just do your jokes because it would be so weird. So you would have to talk to them, do crowd work, kind of get some laughs and then weave your joke in, sneak it in. So that's how I got good at it. But I remember being like, oh, this is the only...

unique moment that we have this whole time. Because the jokes, I love them, but it's kind of a script at a certain point. You work on it, you get the words right, and it's a little bit, not inauthentic, but it's been done. This crowd work thing, it's very exciting. It could fall flat on its face, it could whatever. So I can't imagine planting someone to fake that. Who's the best at crowd work? Who's the best right now at crowd work?

i think andrew's really good i i put myself up there i think matt reich is actually very good at crowd work you have to be super present are you scanning the audience cataloging unique people who you think like hypnotist does for me i think everybody's approach is different for me i just talk to whoever's in the front and then i just dig until i find something that is funny so a lot of times i'll ask what do you do and then from there we'll see if there's or like i'll ask about the relationship but i want to dig into like interpersonal stuff and like i dig until i find something interesting and then

we hammer that. - Got it, got it. What's the best moment you've had doing crowd work? - Oh dude, this is actually filming my special. So you do four shows and then you kind of cut them together with the best ones. I remember after the first show, before the first show, super nervous. First show, I hit enough of my marks and got enough words correctly where I'm like, I'm good. In the next three shows, I'm gonna have coverage.

Who cares? So I remember saying to my right-hand man, Kevin, who films all my stuff, I was like, I'm so relaxed for the second show that it's almost making me nervous. I'm so not nervous. But then randomly there's this girl in the front that looks completely white and she's with a brown guy and then I make some joke and then she says, I'm not white. And I'm like, okay, what are you, fucking Italian? Turns out she's Pakistani. So I freak out and I like crouch down on stage, have like a moment with her. And I remember in my head being like,

well, let's just play because I've got enough from the first show, who cares? And then that ended up being the most viral bit from the special. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, with the, yeah. So, and then she was really sweet, her boyfriend was really sweet. I've talked to them a little bit online. Fiance was really sweet. But yeah, that was like, I couldn't believe that happened during the special. What did you think about Hasan Minhaj

little kerfuffle where you can't. Can we cut to this? You can exaggerate the funny parts, but you can't exaggerate the serious parts. Got it. That's kind of the rule in comedy. So you can exaggerate the funny parts, but in reality, you can't.

Lie or make up the actual bones or anthrax fell on my daughter when anthrax didn't fall on your daughter. That's even crazy to like put in the universe right but you're just Manipulating the audience to make them like you more without being funnier. I got a line to be funnier great That's what we have to do stories aren't that funny? Oh We are

Yeah, yeah, definitely. But this is the feed? This is the live feed. This is C-SPAN and some opera. I think we got like a direct, we had a direct White House theater. And here comes, actually here comes Biden and Kamala.

And let's take a look. How are they feeling at this moment? Kamala is looking a little perturbed. What did you get? What did you get there, Mark? What emotion is that? I just don't think she's... This isn't the moment that she was dreaming of. You think she's going to become governor of California? Oh, God. That would just be... Disastrous. That would be really painful. It's... I...

I want to believe that the corporate candidates are done, that you're going to have to be authentic. Authentic. And that someone, I still think, unfortunately, it's hard for me to believe that a non-Democrat will make it, but I think that someone's going to have to emerge who at least tries to be honest and authentic and present a real human. I love Cuban. I hope Cuban runs. I think he's great. Yeah. Because I've got to tell you, nothing against Cuban. My favorite guest ever.

Wow. I'm also a Dallas Mavericks. I'm from Dallas. Okay. But I got to tell you, you love Mark Cuban. Love Mark Cuban. Love Mark Cuban. I like him personally, but I have to say, I don't really love him on Twitter. And I've been working with these AI hackers on an app, not promoting here, it's not even available, called Based or Biased. And

They used him to tune the app and the model for high bias, low base. Because he flips, he deleted his anti-Trump tweets. He said he always does that when the other side wins. He flipped, I mean, he...

I have to say, I'd like to understand how did he go from, he was literally defending the price gouging is creating inflation, to then being on CNBC when they pushed him on and saying, "Well, of course, I don't believe that."

I'm just looking for... Well, that's crazy because I actually spoke to him directly about this topic. What did he say? He really did believe that there was a broader set of economic issues. And it's like, Mark, you know that price gouging, creating artificial price caps is going to lead to a massive problem. And he actually felt like there was a solution. It did not seem right to me because he's not a...

He's not a dumb guy. I mean the guy no, he's obviously very smart very capable. You know, here's the thing if you go all I think he did he went all in is effectively right he wanted his team to win I think you go all in on political topics like this you lose your objectivity to be part of the team and I have seen this with a bunch of friends who were extremely Not in favor of Trump publicly eight years ago and now that they are pro Trump they

you know, re-underwrite, re-evaluated, and they now... And there's nothing wrong with that, by the way. Yeah, of course. I think everyone that wants to have a different point of view, has a different rationale, has new data, they should not be shunned for the point of view they held in the past. Absolutely. You could change your mind with new information. However, what I will say that I would never do, and I see people do, is...

They will just absolutely ignore criticism and the person can do nothing wrong. President Trump's coming into the hall here. Oh, we're on a delay. He looks pretty serious. It's all business, baby. Yeah. I think he's like, let's get through this so I can start signing executive orders. They got 100, 200 they're going to push today. That's the rumor. I heard 50, 100. We said at the rally yesterday. Up to 200. Wow. Some of them are being detailed.

and have been leaked early, including one on there are two genders, men and women. You see that one? Yeah, that one seems ridiculous, but okay. That's an executive order. There's a lot of performative and... Does it have an executive order on gravity? Gravity, yes. That seems completely performative. There are two genders.

Agree or disagree. Just like what is an executive order gonna do? I mean some of the stuff is to pander to your base Yeah, or reward your base right? Yeah, which is how tall is Baron Trump? I mean he looks like he's Elon's tall six five if Aaron's too interested all the new Elon's probably six nine My girls know Barron's there and Trump is six nine. They're big Baron fans. He like cute. Is that the thing? We're talking to my daughter's daughters. How old are you guys? Oh

Okay, 14-year-old daughters declaring that Barron Trump is cute. Yeah. Right? Breaking news. I'll tell you what I don't miss about being single. Being tall is all you need. And I'm 5'7". Being tall is all that it takes. Really, nothing else matters. I agree. I'm 5'6". Oh, yeah, yeah. 5'8 and a half on a good day. He is tall, and he does have a trust fund.

Don't know if he's got blue eyes. He could also be whispering from the future. We don't know, J. Cal. Like, much of this could be predestined, and he could be driving the future with the whispers that he put out. Okay, here's the over-under. Let's get a bet. Now, is he going to address the crowd? He gives a bit of a speech. Yeah.

Yeah, well, apparently after the swearing in ceremony, I don't know if it's right away, but that's when he gives his opening statement, as it were. Yeah, which apparently it's like it's supposed to be like the same quality of a State of the Union. Like there's a. OK, so. But do you guys can you guys find out, does he do it right afterwards or. So let's let's get some wagering here. What is the over under? Do we know how many minutes Biden did last year? You know what we should have done was we could have done a polymark. We could have done polymark. They need a real time publishing. We should have done a polymarket on how many executive positions.

- We should have done that, but we won't be able to, they're starting. - We should have done a polymarket on how many executive orders were gonna get published today. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That would be a killer. - Because it did keep growing, it was like, oh, there's gonna be 20, 50, 100, now there's 200. - You should do a polymarket on whether Doge completes by July 4th next year. - Well, we have one, which is, will the deficit-- - That's different though. - Different. - That's gonna be a function of-- - I think that's an easy one, and,

as much as we can audio up guys yeah so we see a bunch of people clapping these are i guess donors these look like donors to me my lord people watching also by the way here's another piece of inside information mark you can talk about this as well but like a lot of people donated a lot of money come out to the inauguration had special vip tickets there was a whole setting with all the seats and where they were supposed to be

And then when they moved it all indoors, a lot of people lost their seats and they lost their special treatment for their seven-figure donations. Is that right? So there was a lot of scrambling this weekend. I'm like, where am I going to sit? Am I going to be able to go? How am I going to go? And obviously Chamath ended up going. A couple of our other friends are in there. But there are a lot of folks that had very special tickets. Oh, by the way, I want to give a shout out my...

Five-week-old baby Lucia is watching our podcast. She's one of the 20,000. That's awesome. Here's JD. They always wear a red tie. I think the blue and the red is a Republican thing. I think it's a presidential thing. I don't have any red ties. I'm wearing my blue suit jacket today and my blue jeans.

Jason can we get you to wear a red tie? I wore a red tie when Trump was on the pod. So when Trump came on the pod, these guys are like, "What are you wearing? What are you wearing?" They're all kind of doing this gamesmanship. They're like, "Anybody wearing a tie, nobody says anything." So I'm not gonna lie. So I don't say anything. We turn my camera off. We try to mess with J. Cal a lot and get him to like show up wrong. So I'm like, you know what? And you guys weren't giving me a lot. I'm going to turn my camera off and the second Trump comes on, I'm gonna put the fucking tie on and then turn it on and then give these guys shit. And they're like, "Oh, you're wearing a tie." I'm like,

Well, Mr. President Trump is here. What person in their right mind would not wear a tie if the President of the United States took the time to go to the pot? These three guys are like, oh, God, bastard.

I did feel like I said it, yeah. Now, did you wear yoga clothes or did you actually put a suit on when the president was? We didn't put a suit on. No, it was like a discussion beforehand. It was like, we're not doing that. Not changing anything. We're dressing as us. You're sticking to your guns. We want to be as much us as possible and have him be as much him as possible. Got it. That's our goal with every guest. And he wants to wear a suit. Yeah, he wore the suit. You never see him not. What was the best moment of, in your mind, of his podcast tour?

funniest interaction he had on the pod. Oh, dude, him and Theo talking about doing cocaine was so funny. Oh, that was the best. I literally was going to say the same one. Yeah. I thought we had a... So it makes you feel great. I thought him talking about the weave on our pod was so funny. And just like acknowledging it. Yeah. But yeah, I just... What a run. Yeah.

You guys tried to get Kamala on too, right? I mean, many times we tried to get Biden. Did she do any long form podcasts? She did Call Her Daddy for 40 minutes. Yeah. So, yeah. Very controlled setting. Very controlled. They spent a billion dollars on the set. Yeah. And they controlled it. And then Biden did Howard Stern when he was still running.

And Howard obviously is super in the bag for the Dems, and he did a 40-minute softball. It was super disappointing as a Stern fan. No comedy, nothing. He was just sick of fantasy. I mean, if you have them there, why wouldn't you try to get some comedy out of them, get some new information? Even softball comedy. Sure. I mean...

get a chuckle, get a unique piece of insight. It's such a wasted opportunity to have somebody of that stature. But I think that, what do you think? You think her not doing them was because she's not capable of doing them or it was just a huge strategic mistake?

I don't know. I want to give her credit and say it was the team. They just had her so locked into whatever they thought was right. But they told us that because we had Trump on, it was too big of a risk to have her on, which we asked them both at the same time. She wasn't really receptive before that either. But it was an air kiss. There was an air kiss. That was a total air kiss.

Melania counting the minutes for this to be over. Right, trying to cover her face. I'm trying to figure out who is less interested in being here, Tim Cook or her. I think he's going to kiss that guy. I don't know who that is. That's got to be a mega donor. This is where AI would be super helpful in facial recognition. Yeah. Or do they say what they're saying to read their lips? Oh, real-time lip reading. Yeah. My favorite is when they took the Obama conversation with him and they just...

Oh, yeah. Went to town with like great voiceovers on it. Oh, we are getting delayed, I think. Yeah. I can't imagine. Yeah, that says 1143, and it's currently. No, it's 1144. It's 1144. Oh, cable.

Yeah, I would think they would put this a couple of minutes behind for safety reasons. They must be on some sort of delay. God forbid something were to happen. But there was obviously some credible threat, I think, going on here. I don't think this has anything to do with the cold because today is no colder than previous things. This is obviously the two assassination attempts. But do you think after this run there's going to be a... It's the same. It was colder at the last couple. I was...

Breaking my bones walking. Oh, it was so good in California. By the way, I'm also wearing like ski long johns - today It's like are you literally? Your hot chilies. Yeah, I was dude. Well what happened last night when we left that restaurant we walked out your hot chilies We went to dinner right by the cap where they had the rally last night and we didn't know that there was this rally So basically all the streets they put up these fences and he's barricade you cannot move if they put your pendant So we walk out and there's no cars and we had a driver but the guy was like far far away a mile away and

More than for our guy. He was like 1.7 miles down the road We walk out and the streets are empty because it was late. There was no way to get to him So we start walking. Oh, I swear to God Did you like walk out last night and try and like how far did you walk when you left that restaurant? It took me

25 minutes I walked over a mile. I thought we were getting my car I mean do we were with Vinny and Vinny Vinny started screaming and freaking out He ran back to the restaurant like jump back in and then he found a scooter and he took off He's like I can't move I can't do anything and he jumped on the scooter I have no idea if he survived last night. I don't know where I made a huge strategic error I was like, you know what? Sorry, what do you think Amy Klobuchar is saying right now? Well, she's the chairperson of the inauguration committee, I think

So she organizes the inauguration regardless of who the winner was, I believe. So you think she's... I think she's welcoming everyone. You can turn it up, guys. Yeah, we can get like a half sound here and talk over it. That'd be fine. 50-50. You've done a beautiful job and you have shown grace under pressure. Oh, so she's giving flowers to Biden. Biden and Kamala probably... Yeah, they get their flowers. The theme this year is our enduring democracy.

the presence of so many presidents and vice presidents here today is truly a testament i thought the claim was that democracy was going to end if trump i know i think that's like a little bit of a shot we welcome vice president harris and doug emma president obama president clinton this is a testament to democracy that despite all of mainstream media you know

You know, not wanting this candidate and being outspent, this candidate won. It is also amazing that despite all the negatives being hurled at each party by the other group, in the United States, they all come back together. They get together in a Capitol building, they transfer power, and the country moves on, and the next administration begins. It's a pretty powerful and amazing thing.

That's what I actually thought the clip of Trump and Obama laughing. Totally. I think it was such a powerful clip. It's like reconciliation. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think it's also great for the world to see that we're united. And they could see this democracy where they thought, oh my God, America's fracturing. It's over. Civil war. And then they get together. They do the belly tap. But don't you wonder if this is like fighters that are trying to promote the fight and they look like they hate each other. Yeah, totally. Probably. That's the thing about it. They're all...

acquaintances. But for the idiots who believe all of it too much, the guys out there chanting USA, it's nice to see that it's not, oh hey, we're still getting a little... Yeah, it's like, this guy's not Hitler, they didn't destroy the country, things keep going. ...Supreme Court, equal justice under law.

This is ridiculous. They didn't do it like that. I want to see these people freezing. I froze many times this trip. And I made a huge strategic error. They're like, and they were allowed to go through the barricades. We weren't even allowed to go through. Yeah, and Freeburg and John are like, we've got your security. We've got you a driver, the whole thing, first class, whatever. I'm like, oh, that's fantastic. I'm like, Jade's like, probably should take a coat. My wife's like, probably need a coat. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to be in the car. I'm going to go from the car to the front door.

no you didn't bring a coat didn't bring a car i mean i'm wearing a suit jacket you were running around last night after dinner without a coat no coat bro no i don't drink so i i was feeling the absolute pain of it yeah yeah um once reminded us but to view others with a generosity of spirit despite our differences

with that responsibility of leadership comes an obligation to stand our ground when we must and find common ground when we can.

Well, this is gonna be I think this is fairly predictable, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's very scripted very obvious The really great moment is how does Trump? Start this like what do you what's your prediction here? Is he gonna come out and just start dunking on people? Is he gonna just I don't think be magnanimous He didn't even do that in 2016. Remember his first address was like trying to stabilize everything. Yeah, we're gonna fix the infrastructure. I

Yeah, I remember the markets were crashing and he came out and was pretty stable. I think he's going to do the same thing this time. I mean, this is, I think, this will be the real test is starting today and tomorrow, what do these executive orders say? What's the actual agenda? How much of what he said on the election trail was true?

cap and how much was strategy, how much was to get voter turnout and to enrage people and to get them to the voting booth and how much of it is actually real. We'll see. So Joe Biden, I guess, on his way out, pardoned his family, James Biden, Sarah Jones Biden, Valerie Biden Owens, John T. Owens, Francis Biden, on his way out the door for any crimes they may have committed.

or I guess maybe in the future. I don't know how this is defined. I just feel like this pardoning thing is, needs to kind of be revoked to the power of pardon. You know,

The whole idea was you can protect from political persecution. I actually do think that would be the case. But if the courts work, there shouldn't be this concept of political persecution. That's true. That's a good point. And then we're just throwing out thousands of pardons. It almost feels like you're taking away the power of the judicial branch of government. You're just saying...

Yeah, that's a good point. All right, 30,000 people watching us across both platforms, X and YouTube. And yes, the Biden preemptive pardons, Fauci, that's incredibly disappointing. What's your take on the Fauci situation? You think...

I'm not nearly well educated enough. Obviously, most of the people in the podcast world that I'm a part of were very anti-vaxxer, very whatever. I do think the mandates went too far, but I don't even know. You're going to have to break down to me what could he be prosecuted for. I do think it was probably a created virus. I think part of the concept was that he lied to the public and that there was a cover-up and that there was a deliberate knowledge

about the origins that they made an effort. I mean, there's a lot of... At the very least, they obstructed justice. And they...

Literally could have very easily. Oh, thank you, sir. Mark, thank you for getting me a tea. Anybody need a tea with honey or coffee? I would love a water if possible. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Laura. Who's this? Deb Fisher from the great state of Nebraska. She's absolutely thrilled to be here. Nebraska is negative 10 degrees right now. She's like, oh, my God, we get to go south and have this incredible warm climate. Yeah.

So were you going to go to the inauguration, to the swearing-in ceremony? Honestly, I don't even know. I had some, it said, I thought it said West Lawn. That's what a lot of people said, is they didn't know exactly where, when, that we're like invited. And then after they moved it indoors, a lot of people were like... Then it became Capital One Center. Capital One Center. Arena. Yeah.

Which is where we went to last night. I left you went to their party early because My girls want they wanted to see Trump. They're like we came all the way here and she went to the rally we trudged for 25 minutes in the snow to the rally and

And it was fun. None of us have ever been to a Trump rally. It's amazing. I thought it's like stand-up comedy that he just hits track and repeats things. X came on stage and ran around. Yeah, Elon's son. Elon's son. Yeah, I saw that clip. That's cute. Have you been to a Trump rally? No, I have not. Have you? Nope. I kind of regret not going to one of the rallies in the South at like...

you know, a rodeo or something. I would like to see that like from a cultural perspective. A rodeo? Yeah, like he would do these things in, you know, Nebraska or, you know, Kentucky or whatever. Like I would like to see him with that group. You live in Texas. You could go to a rodeo.

Sure. I would like to see him at one. I've been to a rodeo. I got to meet Tulsi. That was quite nice. She came to the party at the All In. Yeah, Tulsi was great. Yeah, she was great. Tulsi, we didn't talk about this, but she was supposed to be at the All In Summit. And very last minute canceled because she had to actually... I guess we can talk about this now. She had to leave town to go...

work on prep with the president for the debate that happened right after the online summit in September. So she was a last minute cancel for us.

But yeah, she was at our event. We had Doug Burgum at our event. I had a funny moment with her. She came over and she was quite kind. And she's like, oh, I'm such a fan of the All In Podcast. You're amazing. J. Kyle, world's greatest moderator. She was incredible. What did she really say? She literally said that she watches every show. She was effusive. And I was like, oh my God, that's so amazing. I'm happy to take a selfie.

And she laughed. And I said, that was a preemptive selfie move. Wait, she asked you a selfie? No, no. I offered it as a joke. I said, after she was super abusive, I said, I am happy. It's so great to meet you. I'm happy to take a selfie. She laughed. And I said, well, let's do it for the gram. And I was actually going to ask you for one. Yeah, yeah. She laughed and we took one. I love it.

I had a great moment with Bobby Kennedy yesterday. Oh, really? Do tell. Yeah, it was a little bit of a hug, and he showed great appreciation. And he was extremely effusive about coming on We All In Pod. And he said it really did change the trajectory of the campaign for me and made a huge impact on my life. So he was like, thank you so much. I'm like, I'm going to be calling you.

I'm going to be calling you. How do you feel about genetic strawberries? Well, I was kind of going the other direction, organic. I'm like, let's go take care of the microplastics, please. Yes. I would like to get the microplastics out of my bottles. That's coming from HIMS, HIMS.com slash all in. Microplastics out of your balls. Why don't they come out with new tea bags, right? It's supposed to be like we're getting it all through our teeth. So there was a study this week. We cannot.

that showed millions of measurable microplastic particles from each tea bag i read that yeah because they did yeah but you know it's such a bummer i drink so much tea yeah yeah it's all synthetic fibers which are basically you know long plastics that when i was in japan um when you go skiing in this like off-piste kind of serious situation you have to have a guide yeah because you could

get in a tree well or go off a cliff and you need somebody to dig you out basically save your life and so um my guy nobuyoshi we were talking about tea and he uh was lamenting the issue around matcha tea in japan that you know like 80 of it has you know microplastics this chemicals and that there's a whole thing going on in japan right now they're testing all the matcha teas

to find microblasts i think it's mostly for chemicals right i don't think microplastics is a thing because it's so hard to detect there's a right there's a very specific like measurement of like physics and stuff that you need to do did you see the entrepreneur who's doing

Testing Foods? Yes. What's his name? I forgot what kind. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Zach? I forgot his name. This guy's a hero. And he's reporting it all out. Yeah, he's basically. On Twitter. Yeah. Who is that? Somebody will look it up. Producer Nick, look it up. If you don't mind, there's this guy who's an entrepreneur. He partners with a guy from Pioneer Labs. They put a bunch of H100 outs and gave people time on their GPU grid. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Friedman, Matt Friedman? Matt Friedman. It might be, yeah. Anyway, he spent half a million of his own capital to test this and publish it. So he took basic off-the-shelf foods and measured known carcinogenic compound levels and showed them. And it's quite surprising. And one of the more interesting points in the study

Was when you take food and take out in plastic takeout container. Yes, this was eating it in the restaurant Yes, it's like so bad the plastic takeout containers even in just a few minutes are leaching a ton of chemistry It's it's a topic now. Yeah, we with the baby. We've been ordering it a lot and now it's just painful Had a really cool startup. We didn't make it and what they were doing was ordering in bulk taking mason jars

And then you would order your sugar, your barley, whatever you use. And they would just put everything in glass bottles. They would bring it to your house. Then they would, when they're putting stuff in your cabinet, they would look. If you get below 50% on anything, they just replenish it. And I was like, this is the greatest one percenter concept that if you could make this work where your cupboard is beautifully, like Marie Kondo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But all organic, all glass. And then...

you know, if you could make it scale, just think about how much less packaging. When you're in Europe, they will have toothpaste and they have to put it in a bushel without any plastic on it, without paper, because they have to take it back. So what people do in Europe is if you are getting your groceries, you can just take all the packaging and just throw it and give it to the supermarket. They have to dispose of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you actually pay. Can't see the feet. Oh, here we go. Oh, here we go. Plastic...

List that was called plastic list. Yeah, so do a search for that We collected 775 samples 312 foods and it's amazing that he has to go do this there should there must be some well It's not body and it does. Yeah, there has yeah, it's called the government if they do that. That was donations. Yeah Well, we're who we'd a big AG and all these people are giving them money, right? Oh

- Well, no, that's not the issue at all. - Is that really what happens? - No, I think like throughout the whole food supply chain, we use plastic, we use like synthetic materials 'cause they're cheaper ways to store and move stuff. And so our entire world is built with like-- - Right here, I'm like water bottle, tea. - Yeah, no, that's right. Well, think about how expensive it would be to take like glass and fill it with water and move it. Those are like four times, five times, 10 times as expensive

So all containers that we make in the world are plastic because they're more affordable, lighter weight, more transportable. And now we're recognizing that that plastic is unstable, that there's little bits of it that break off, that end up in the environment, end up in our bodies and accumulate. It turns out they actually accumulate in our cells. And as they accumulate,

they have disruptive effects. And I think this is very recent. There's a series of papers that have been coming out over the last year or two, and everyone's suddenly waking up to this. So the microplastic problem is something that will certainly trigger a bunch of FDA review, a bunch of EPA review. If RFK gets approved. I don't think that's all. I actually think this is a big thing. Everyone's cognizant of it on both sides of the aisle. I've talked to a lot of people.

People know that it's a real thing. And there's no like vested interest, big X, big Y. I think they're super vested interest. I'll take the other side of that. I think, you know, for these companies, you know, they...

are focused on profitability. - What companies? - Not, right? Like Archer Daniels Midland, Procter and Gamble, they're optimizing for marketing. - None of those companies have people that are like, "Oh, we should be putting chemicals in food because it's gonna hurt people." Everyone-- - No, but they would never test it and release it unless they had a gun to their head, is my opinion. - Yeah, and so at the end of the day, the truth is, this stuff is gonna drive the cost of food, of storage, of materials up, which is what it's gonna end up having to be. - Which it was what it should always have been. And here's JD Vance.

He's being sworn in. That I will bear true faith. That I will bear true faith. And allegiance to the same. And allegiance to the same.

that i take this obligation freely that i take this obligation freely without any mental reservation without any mental reservation for a purpose of evasion for a purpose of evasion and that's got it right well and faithfully discharged and that i will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office duties of the office on which i'm about to enter on which i'm about to enter so help me god so help me god congratulations mr vice president

Imagine you're Peter chill right now at home and you're just like God half-court shot boom. Yeah, what a deep out of a money bet he made On JD Vance, I mean and the fact that Trump picked JD Vance that was incredibly unpopular. Yeah Yeah, I didn't love it. I don't know well and it was a at the time, you know He was some polling as good unbelievably unlikable. Yeah. Yeah, and then the Democrats were like, oh

"Can we make this guy more likable?" And then they found Tim Walz. They're like, "Let's find somebody who makes JD more palatable to America." - It's absolutely amazing that Sundar is right behind the president. CEO of Google, they were talking about breaking up Google, big tech is bad. These guys are on stage, right behind. They're showing off American enterprise. They're showing off America's biggest, most successful companies.

and they're saying these are the innovators, these are the entrepreneurs that have made America successful, made our economy thrive, made it grow, which is the opposite of what was happening with the Democrats. They were saying everyone who's a billionaire is bad, all of these companies are awful, it's a tech oligarchy. On the way out the door, he's writing, there's a tech oligarchy taking over. And at the end of the day, these are the great employers of the country. Jeff Bezos employs millions of people now across the country. For whatever you want to say about it, they are job creators, they're

I had lunch with Elizabeth Warren when she was running for president. I can't even say why. But I sat down with her and I said, Oh, I don't want to talk about Trump. There he goes. He finished his oath of office.

shaking some hands here just saying biden's hand is he giving his talk now guys you know okay later okay okay well that's the end of the uh swearing in right and uh now they've cut to the oath keepers who are breaching the capital they're firing on the capital they're firing on the gas it's not even sorry no it's not even funny i mean yeah oh you all left

Honestly, I was in my head, but that was really funny. I wish I had heard it in time. Oh, my Lord. Has anyone seen David Sachs? You would think he would be. Chamath is in the other room, but Sachs should be up there. There's Sundar. Sundar trying to lean over. There's Jeff Bezos, Elon. I mean, it really is amazing to see so many founders up there. It's great. It should be there. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, it's amazing we lead the world in this. Why would we-- Or success. I mean, let's call it what it is. These are all self-made-- Not to mention the fact that Google.com has had a pretty decent impact on the world. Everyone can access the internet and search for stuff. The number of jobs. Amazon made it possible for everyone to order stuff that gets delivered to your house. Be grateful. Be grateful. Two-day delivery. Come on. It's cool. The innovation in this country and what free enterprise has enabled is incredible.

And it should be celebrated. Do you think the inflation... Versus cronyism, versus kleptocracy. Yes. Other systems of governing and economic models that are just... But do you think that the inflation somehow got in the psyche of voters that they realized this zero-sum approach isn't going to work? We need...

Not that they thought about it in this economic terms, but that we actually need growth. We need industry to go somewhere. I don't know if people get that. People are much more like, dude, things are expensive. I can't get a better job. I can't make more money. If inflation hadn't been as bad as it was, they probably would have won if they had a primary. I believe that. You know how expensive eggs are now? And they did a better job getting the base out and getting moderates. Not taking anything away from Trump's victory, but

They literally put a terrible candidate and didn't have an open process. That's an important lesson for them. Yep. Like Americans can kind of like the idea of democracy and choice. Yeah. Right. And they love capitalism. This idea that they don't love capitalism. Yeah. Somebody had a bit, I think it was Chappelle or whoever. And they're like, you know, the Democrats were going to black people, to Hispanic people and tell them that these billionaires are bad people. And they're like,

wait a second like we want to learn how to be that's my goal i want to be a billionaire i want to be a mogul yeah and they just misread the room like people are not interested in talking about issues that impact one percent of people like dei or trans rights like i'm not saying any of that stuff is not important

But it's not as important as like people having jobs, people being able to be safe in their cities. I do think we don't love billionaires and there's an idea that it's not fair. And once they get the, I mean, use a poker analogy. Once you got the big stack, you can bully everyone at the table. And I don't think people love that. But I think to what you were saying earlier, we just felt as the poor person in the room, we just felt everything else is too. I don't give a fuck about that as much as I care about things being affordable for me. And then, like you said, DEI, we don't care. I want things to be affordable.

whatever's going on in Israel is nuts. Like, I just want peace. I want tranquility. Kind of like in 2020, we were just tired of all the madness with the pandemic. We're like, let's just, I want to feel something different. I think it's actually... But the idea that Elon has taken something, this zero-sum idea that Elon has somehow gotten his money because he took it from other Americans, to me, that's the real... Well, the auto manufacturers are losing.

and they are going to get wrecked with Tesla.

And I think that there are industries that were disrupted by the internet. There were small retail shops that were disrupted by Amazon, but the pie grew so much. The pie got so much bigger. I mean, that's the thing about- And thank God those are US companies. Yeah. And we have the lowest unemployment of our lifetimes. We don't want to be in Europe. But there is a disruptive effect, right? And I think the disruptive effect is going to get a lot worse this year, particularly with AI and automation. And if they pull off these cuts, the trickle down effect

of cutting government spending, if they are going to do it at this scale, is going to be significant in terms of job loss and disruption to people's lives in a way that people are going to be really angry about. And that's where my theory on like, I think socialism is going to be on the rise this year. If they're successful, I think you'll see a big boom. But that's not what's happening in Argentina, right? Well,

They had the problem was there on the other hand of socialism failing. Like they already had like their economy was stagnating. Right. And this one, this, in this situation, there's a period of time where if you like, let's say you cut a third of government spending, that's probably going to affect a couple million jobs and a couple million people's lives. And those millions of people are going to say, this is so messed up. Like,

what are you guys doing? I've relied on this. I've depended on this. The government's been my customer. I've worked for X, Y, and Z agency for so long or for this contractor that just got shut down. And those people are going to say, I need that back. And they're going to come forward with a very simple... What does it feel like saying two years of pay though if you lose your job as part of the government? I think that's the mitigating... Yeah, there's a way to get people to stop landing. What I would do... And AI, by the way, is going to be similarly effective. If I was involved in this, I would come out with a very simple statement. We're going to do a 5% budget cut a

a year each year for four years and see how it goes. So,

you know, every single program will go 5% down, whether it's at a minimum. And everybody has to experience the pain. So any bill that was passed, you got a billion dollars for a bridge, okay, that bridge now has to, your budget is 950. And that's it. And everybody shares the pain. And you know, you compound 5%, you know, that winds up being what, 24, 25%. So you could actually do something very significant slowly and thoughtfully. And then you could look at the results. Hey, you know, we cut 5% of this.

We actually should be investing 5% more. You can't have a president that sets a four-year budget. That's just not how it works, right? There's an annual budgeting cycle. Yeah, but they do have control over some of the agencies and the staffing in those agencies and the salaries. You mentioned four unions. There's a lot to work on. They can renegotiate with some of them. Yeah.

And so, you know, it would be stating a philosophy and a goal. It wouldn't necessarily be perfect, but I think that's what we're going to see. Let's see where they end up with because there's a lot to diagnose. Here we go. I'd like to start by thanking myself. How great is this?

We're going to win so much. That's pretty good, actually. Yeah, we don't even need Trump. Go ahead, Jason. I wonder how many minutes before he thanks Elon, Barron, Melania. What's the order? Trump rally? It was fast. I think he's going to—let's see. It was early in the program. Does he thank his wife first? Is he going to repeat what he said last night? I think so. I don't know if he'll do it right now, but I think that's— Here we go. 12.09 p.m. Eastern Time, Epoch Times. Thank you very much, everybody. Well, thank you very, very much.

Is that a bulletproof shield? No, that's the teleprompter. Speaker Johnson, Senator Thune, Chief Justice Roberts, justices of the United States Supreme Court, President Clinton, President Bush, President Obama, President Biden, Vice President Harris, and my fellow citizens. The golden age of America begins right now.

all right leading with uh yeah golden egg we're going to stay forward our country will flourish and be respected again all over the world we will be the envy of every nation and we will not allow ourselves to be taken advantage of any longer during every single day of the trump administration i will very simply put america first clear message yeah man

Our sovereignty will be reclaimed. Our safety will be restored. The scales of justice will be rebalanced. The vicious, violent, and unfair weaponization of the Justice Department and our government will end. He's saying we're going to end lawfare. Yeah. Not, I'm going to be all or none. Cash Patel is a pretty spicy choice. Yeah. Our top priority will be to create a nation that is proud, prosperous, and free.

He so wants to go off script right now. You think he's going to be a teleprompter? Yes. It's not obvious. When you see him looking left then right, there's one on the left, there's one on the right. So the technique is to look at one and the other. You see them right there. A little, looks like a sandwich board or clipboard. A tide of change is sweeping the country. Sunlight is pouring over the entire world.

And America has the chance to seize this opportunity like never before. But first, we must be honest about the challenges we face. While they are plentiful, they will be annihilated by this great momentum that the world is now witnessing in the United States of America. Still on script. As we gather today, our government confronts a crisis of trust. For many years, a radical and corrupt establishment.

has extracted power and wealth from our citizens while the pillars of our society lay broken and seemingly incomplete. This repair. We now have a government that cannot manage even a simple crisis at home while at the same time stumbling into a continuing catalog of catastrophic events abroad. It fails to protect our magnificent law-abiding American citizens

but provide sanctuary and protection for dangerous criminals, many from prisons and mental institutions that have illegally entered our country from all over the world. We have a government that has given unlimited funding to the defense of foreign borders, but refuses to defend American borders or, more importantly, its own people. Our country can no longer deliver basic services in times of emergency, as recently shown

by the wonderful people of North Carolina, who've been treated so badly. And other states who are still suffering from a hurricane that took place many months ago. Or more recently, Los Angeles, where we're watching fires still tragically burn from weeks ago without even a token of defense.

They're raging through the houses and communities, even affecting some of the wealthiest and most powerful individuals in our country, some of whom are sitting here right now.

They don't have a home any longer. -Okay, off script. -That's interesting. -Yeah, yes. -It's interesting. Four minutes off. -We can't let this happen. -He's freestyling now. Here we go. -Everyone is unable to do anything about it that's going to change. -You can tell his voice changed. -We have a public health system that does not deliver in times of disaster, yet more money is spent on it than any country anywhere in the world.

And we have an education system that teaches our children to be ashamed of themselves in many cases, to hate our country despite the love that we try so desperately to provide to them. All of this will change starting today, and it will change very quickly. My recent election is a mandate to completely and totally reverse a horrible betrayal.

and all of these many betrayals that have taken place, and to give the people back their faith, their wealth, their democracy, and indeed, their freedom. From this moment on, America's decline is over.

I mean, they're just will no longer be denied. And we will immediately restore the integrity, competency and loyalty of America's government. Over the past eight years, I have been tested and challenged more than any president in our 250 year history.

And I've learned a lot along the way. The journey to reclaim our republic has not been an easy one, that I can tell you. Those who wish to stop our cause have tried to take my freedom and indeed to take my life. Just a few months ago in a beautiful Pennsylvania field, an assassin's bullet ripped through my ear.

But I felt then and believe even more so now that my life was saved for a reason. I was saved by God to make America great again. All right, we've got a first-hand innovation. I think Tom are not standing. No? Are they not standing? I don't think so. I didn't see them. In fairness, there are some people in the audience. Yes. She's got a big rib covering her eyes.

Oh, come on! That is why each day under our administration of American patriots, we will be working to meet every crisis with dignity and power and strength. We will move with purpose and speed to bring back hope, prosperity, safety, and peace for citizens of every race, religion, color, and creed.

For American citizens, January 20th, 2025 is Liberation Day. It is my hope that our recent presidential election will be remembered as the greatest and most consequential election in the history of our country.

As our victory showed, the entire nation is rapidly unifying behind our agenda with dramatic increases in support from virtually every element of our society, young and old, men and women, African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, urban, suburban, rural. And very importantly, we had a powerful win in all seven swing states. And the popular vote we won by millions of people.

That's always been a hang-up for him. To the Black and Hispanic communities, I want to thank you for the tremendous outpouring of love and trust that you have shown me with your vote. We set records, and I will not forget it. I've heard your voices in the campaign, and I look forward to working with you in the years to come.

Today is Martin Luther King Day and his honor. This will be a great honor, but in his honor we will strive together to make his dream a reality. We will make his dream come true. - He's working on his set. There's a lot of people who when he started to go for Martin Luther King were like,

-Ooh, boy, careful here. -This could go either way. -The whole Rory is... -And confidence and pride is soaring like never before. In everything we do, my administration will be inspired by a strong pursuit of excellence and unrelenting success. We will not forget our country.

we will not forget our Constitution, and we will not forget our God. Can't do that. Thank you. Every so often he puts the God part in. He's got a big church in his life.

yeah absolutely another proud one a national emergency at our southern border

Half of them are standing. I don't think they see Biden. The border was the number of border police in the inflation, one in two. Yeah, they're not standing. We're clapping. All illegal entry will immediately be halted and we will begin the process of returning millions and millions of criminal aliens back to the places from which they came.

we will reinstate my Remain in Mexico policy. I will end the practice of catch and release. And I will send troops to the southern border to repel the disastrous invasion of our country. Under the orders I signed today, we will also be designating the cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. -Great. -Great.

I mean, there's an argument, if you listen to his words, it's a logical argument that they are a terrorist organization based on the number of Americans they're killing. I think what he's saying there is that they're a terrorist organization, you have the right to go take them out. But do you go as far as China supplying the fentanyl? You can't take a war with China, but you can go into Mexico. I will direct our government to use the full and immense power of federal and state law enforcement to eliminate the presence of all foreign gangs and criminal networks, bring

bringing devastating crime to U.S. soil, including our cities and inner cities. -Yeah, that's not consistent. -New York. -New York is top of the city. -As Commander-in-Chief, I have no higher responsibility than to defend our country from threats and invasions, and that is exactly what I am going to do. We will do it at a level that nobody's ever seen before.

Next, I will direct all members of my cabinet to marshal the vast powers at their disposal to defeat what was record inflation and rapidly bring down costs and prices.

How do you do that? Lower the inputs. The energy cost is the straight shot. The inflation crisis was caused by massive overspending and escalating energy prices. And that is why today I will also declare a national energy emergency. We will drill, baby, drill. I love saying that. He's worked that one for a while. That's like a classic go-to. This is a line. This will get him to say it. Go, baby, drill.

the energy is right yes america will be a manufacturing nation once again and we have something that no other manufacturing nation will ever have the largest amount of oil and gas of any country on earth and we are going to use it we will bring prices down

Fill our strategic reserves up again, right to the top, and export American energy all over the world. We need a rich nation again, and it is that liquid gold under our feet that will help to do it.

With my actions today, we will end the Green New Deal and we will revoke the electric vehicle mandate, saving our auto industry and keeping my sacred pledge to our great American autoworkers.

That's an interesting one. This is where there'll be a federal preemption challenge, I think, of California. California has the EV mandate. In other words, they'll be able to buy the car of futures. We will build automobiles in America again at a rate that nobody could have dreamt possible just a few years ago. And thank you to the autoworkers of our nation for your inspiring vote of confidence. We did tremendously with their vote.

I will immediately begin the overhaul of our trade system to protect American workers and families. Instead of taxing our citizens to enrich other countries, we will tariff and tax foreign countries to enrich our citizens. Good message. I mean, it's isolationist. People like us. It's a negotiation. We are establishing the

EXTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE. HA HA HA. TO COLLECT ALL TARIFFS, DUTIES, AND REVENUES. IT WILL BE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF MONEY POURING INTO OUR TREASURY.

only coming from foreign sources yeah the american dream this was the original through the 1800s the original revenue model and then effectiveness to our federal the sad part is my administration when they reduced tariffs established the brand new the revenue actually went efficiency so it drove like it turns out tariffs reduce economic growth so the the economic argument against terrorists

It'll decrease imports, it'll decrease purchases. As things get more expensive, people purchase fewer of them. You have to have an appropriate counterbalance in tax rates. So we'll see what happens. But there's a big economic construct around this. It's going to be hard to put down. I will also sign an executive order to immediately stop all government censorship and bring back free speech to America. Very important. Thank you.

- Let's send our hop in up. - God, this is so exhausting. Can you imagine being there? Up and down, up. - Why does Zuck need the fact checkers if censorship's over? - He's getting rid of them. - No, he said he's moving them to Texas. - No, he said he's trading the California. - I think the safety-- - No, he said he's gonna trade out the California ones because they were too biased. - I think that's trust tax safety.

We will not allow that to happen. It will not happen again. Under my leadership, we will restore fair, equal, and impartial justice under the constitutional rule of law. And we are going to bring law and order back to our cities. This week...

I will also end the government policy of trying to socially engineer race and gender into every aspect of public and private life. But did they do it? We will forge a society that is colorblind and never fixed. I don't know.

I don't know if it was 50 or 100,000 people who went there. And it's the people who went inside. Yeah, I agree. You know, it'd be people. What do you think? Yeah, I agree. And J.D. said this. He said, we're going to do the violent criminals. Oh, you heard that? He just made the executive order declaration. There's only two genders, male and female. This is his whole thing about getting that through. That's too gay, guys. Yeah.

There's a lot of blonde women in the front row who really like that. No, it's not just purchasing. There's policy in the military. There's policy that speaks to gender fluidity, gender decision-making, and care that's allowed for transgender people.

- That guy with the purple suit. - Wow. - The mustache hockey. I'm not sure about these mustaches. - In order to stop our warriors from being subjected to radical political theories and social experiments while on duty, it's going to end immediately. - This is where there's a lot of training on transgender, that sort of stuff, in the military debate. That's the kind of stuff they want to get rid of. - The EO follows. - Defeating America's enemies.

I agree. It kind of feels like it's a new identity though. Like sexual harassment training was probably a really important thing for a period of time in America. Remember like in the 80s, 90s, 2000s you had to like explain to people don't have somebody on a date at work because

When you first went to work, that was where you found your spouse. Believe me, I started investment banking. Yes. Creepy. Yeah. So that seemed pretty necessary. And now we're kind of at like... Oh, my office mate got flowers from one of my head partners on the first day of work. But did you just read that the bias training has increased the incidence of claims and... Of course. Yeah, I guess people are super focused on it. I mean...

Who's that? Somebody misbehaves at work, you fire them. You have like a law firm, fire them. My proudest legacy will be that of a peacemaker and unifier. That's what I want to be, a peacemaker and a unifier. I'm pleased to say that as of yesterday, one day before I assumed office, the hostages in the Middle East are coming back home to their families.

It's like Biden and Kamala have no choice but to clap, but they're not standing. Oh, there you go. And they stayed. Well, he's like, I took credit for that. I got to stand. I mean, I already took credit for that one. The hostage is all three of them. That one's on me. America will reclaim its rightful place as the greatest, most powerful, most respected nation on earth, inspiring the awe and admiration of the entire world.

A short time from now, we are going to be changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, and we will restore the name of a great president, William McKinley, to Mount McKinley, where it should be and where it belongs. So important. Yes. What's the controversy there?

I'm glad he's not waiting on these. President McKinley made our country very rich through tariffs and through talent. He was a natural businessman and gave Teddy Roosevelt the money for many of the great things he did, including the Panama Canal, which has foolishly been given to the country of Panama after the United States. The United States, I mean, think of this, spent more money...

than ever spent on a project before and lost 38,000 lives in the building of the Panama Canal. We have been treated very badly from this foolish gift that should have never been made. And Panama's promise to us has been broken. The purpose of our deal and the spirit of our treaty has been totally violated. American ships are being severely overcharged.

and not treated fairly in any way, shape or form. And that includes the United States Navy. And above all, China is operating the Panama Canal. And we didn't give it to China. We gave it to Panama and we're taking it back. Wow. Wow. We're taking it back? Is this a military move? I mean, it's a pretty strong move. This is going to be part of the big deal with China.

when they do this grand deal. I think it's going to take a couple of months, but it's going to be a grand deal. I agree. Above all, my message to Americans today is that it is time for us to once again act with courage, vigor, and the vitality of history's greatest civilization. So as we liberate our nation, we will lead it to new heights of victory and success.

We will not be deterred. Together we will end the chronic disease epidemic and keep our children safe, healthy, and disease-free. The United States will once again consider itself a growing nation, one that increases our wealth, expands our territory, builds our cities, raises our expectations, and carries our flag into new and beautiful horizons.

And we will pursue our manifest destiny into the stars, launching American astronauts to plant the stars and stripes on the planet Mars. Sounds silly, but it's cool. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great declaration. When do you think that'll actually happen? I mean, Elon, there's a window in here. Look at Elon freaking out. He's like the Latinx. Good, good.

- He's like calculating. - He's the lifeblood of a great nation. - And right now our nation is more ambitious than any other. There's no nation like our nation. - And it's technically solved. - The spirit of the frontier is written into our hearts. The call of the next great adventure

resounds from within our souls. Our American ancestors turned a small group of colonies on the edge of a vast continent into a mighty republic of the most extraordinary citizens on Earth. No one comes close. Americans push thousands of miles through a rugged land of untamed wilderness. They cross deserts, scaled mountains, braved untold dangers.

won the wild west, ended slavery, rescued millions from tyranny, lifted billions from poverty, harnessed electricity, split the atom, launched mankind into the heavens, and put the universe of human knowledge into the palm of the human hand. If we work together, there is nothing we cannot do and no dream we cannot achieve. Many people thought

It was impossible for me to stage such a historic political combat. But as you see today, here I am. The American people have spoken. -It just seems a little blood when it's really in the cup. -Yeah. -Like a tamed animal. -Yeah. It's 40 minutes into this, and it's... -I stand before you now as proof that you should never believe that something is impossible to do. In America, the impossible is what we do best. From New York to Los Angeles,

from Philadelphia to Phoenix, from Chicago to Miami, from Houston to right here in Washington, D.C., our country was forged and built by the generations of patriots who gave everything they had for our rights and for our freedom. They were farmers and soldiers, cowboys and factory workers, steelworkers and coal miners.

Police officers and pioneers who pushed onward, marched forward, and let no obstacle defeat their spirit or their pride. Together they laid down the railroads, raised up the skyscrapers, built great highways, won two world wars, defeated fascism and communism, and triumphed over every single challenge that they faced.

After all we have been through together, we stand on the verge of the four greatest years in American history. With your help, we will restore America's promise, and we will rebuild the nation that we love, and we love it so much. We are one people, one family, one glorious nation under God. So to every parent who dreams for their child, and every child who dreams for their future,

I am with you, I will fight for you, and I will win for you. We're going to win like never before. - A little ad lib? - A little extra? - We're gonna win like never before. - Thank you. In recent years, our nation has suffered greatly, but we are going to bring it back and make it great again, greater than ever before. We will be a nation like no other, full of compassion, courage, and exceptionalism.

Our power will stop all wars and bring a new spirit of unity to a world that has been angry, violent, and totally unpredictable. America will be respected again and admired again, including by people of religion, faith, and goodwill. We will be prosperous. We will be proud. We will be strong, and we will win like never before. We will not be conquered. We will not be intimidated.

We will not be broken, and we will not fail. From this day on, the United States of America will be a free, sovereign, and independent nation. We will stand bravely. We will live proudly. We will dream boldly. And nothing will stand in our way because we are Americans. The future is ours, and our golden age has just begun. Thank you. God bless America. Thank you all. Thank you.

Is that it? All right. There it is. Thank you very much. All right. Time to party. Well, supposedly there's a presidential signing desk at the arena. So I guess he's going to the arena and doing like a rally or something. At this arena where they're going to do a rally. All the executive orders? I think he's going to sign them in like a...

Public way to get people hyped so he's going to the Capital One Arena. Yeah Where you guys go on a night more parties? I'm going to the AG ball My two biggest nightmares, yeah, I go ball at AG ball. Can you comment you guys? I mean you can imagine Okay, I'm going to the coolest person there. It's here actually it's gonna be fun the grant at the grandest Hyatt to be great the grandest of Hyatt's

Yeah. Oh, sorry. Well, I want to say, Jason, I just, I think we'll do, you know, because I know people are going to drop off. So I just want to, again, the set cost a lot. Coming to DC cost a lot. We did a whole build out. So thanks to him. Be unrepentant. Just show for these guys. Go. So thank you to HIMS and HERS for that. And launching GLP-1s on HIMS. Check out HIMS.com. Which you're going to take. You're going to take them. HIMS.com slash all in. And air call.

You can check out aircall.io/allin to get three months free. And to Abra, use the code ALLIN to get three months of free at Abra. So allin.com/abra-private. Reactions on anything surprising?

No, I mean, he's incredibly boring when he reads from a teleprompter. It's like, imagine giving Dave Chappelle a teleprompter. It would be the worst possible medium for him. But...

um i just wish they had put you want to let him camera on biden and kamala yes i was so interested in seeing their reaction when he was just absolutely clubbing them yeah with their performance over the last four years which was mixed certainly but we do have the lowest unemployment of our lifetime we they did have a record stock market and uh you know the border was challenged but

I think we'll probably look back at Biden. They spent and printed a bit of money. Yeah, everything inflates when you print that much money. Yeah, they spent the same amount. They spent essentially the same as Trump did in his term. I guarantee you Trump's going to spend a similar amount. I think this machine is too hard to wrangle. I mean, I'm hoping they do.

It's just really hard. I think you were talking about that, Freberg, how hard it is to get people to think collectively and think for the collective good. It's going to be really difficult. So you're skeptical on Doge? No, I think Doge is going to reduce the size of certain things, but unless you were to do social security and do the military, those two things, I think, are the bulk of our budget. And so you really have to take those away in a significant way, and that's just untenable for folks.

Social Security and what else? Military. Medicare. And Medicare. So, yeah, the entitlement programs are the big reform that's coming down the pipe. And in all my conversations in D.C. this weekend, when I've brought this up with every politician,

Everyone seems to have the same kind of resonant point, which is it's going to happen when it needs to happen. Right. Which is how it happens in companies too. Yeah. I mean, not all companies, right? Social Security is this thing that everyone knows is structurally bankrupt. It's a function of time. So when I am able to minimize the political effect because it's too late to not do anything about it, that's when I will do something about it. Superannuation funds in Australia. Yeah.

work like a charm. The what? Super annotation funds, I think is what they call them. They call them supers casually. Basically, instead of having social security and paying into that and the government running it, you're forced to use, I think, one of four or five vendors. You put a certain percentage of your salary every year into it. I don't know if it's 12%, I think it's on a scale. And that goes into a fund that you can tap

at certain milestones in your life, like your retirement. And so it's essentially like they're putting a gun to your head and saying, you've got to save. Forced savings. Forced savings, but in equities, not in a government. And so you think about...

this kind of model, it would work. And was it Ted Cruz who talked about it yesterday, the superannuation? Or was it- Well, there's a lot of these, like Norway has a massive fund, Australia has these funds. And so these are like public pension funds that are on the order of trillions of dollars of invested capital in markets. But they're run privately by experts. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of government involvement, but it's not like the US where you give these kind of government guarantees and ultimately-

you have to have some structural reform to make it all work. So anyway, I think that's what everyone assumes this is all going to move to. Some sort of structural reform on a pension fund type model combined with a changing in the age, combined with some sort of selection process. But do you think we hit a catalyst? If it's not going to just happen without the will. Everyone says it's between 2030 to 2032.

What is it that happens? The politicians, so there's the payment amounts start to outstrip the capital that's available. And so that's when everything kind of, okay, well, where's this all going to come from? Now we have to print trillions of dollars. And ultimately those dollars you're getting are worth less and so on. So there's a lot of different economic models, but the general kind of

from a politician point of view, it's like 2030, 2032 is when Social Security's gonna break. No one will talk publicly about it because no one wants to lose the votes to talk about it. - Right. - 'Cause it'll immediately, people jump on you, your opponents jump on you. - And they're voters. - They're trying to get rid of Social Security, they're trying to get rid of Social Security, and that's the attack vector if you talk about Social Security. So no one even wants to talk about it. Everyone on both sides of the aisle say Social Security's golden goose, we can't touch it, we can't touch it.

But behind closed doors, everyone says 2030, 2032 is when it's going to break.

And so that's when everyone's kind of lining up or thinking about it. So no one even wants to deal with it. Kick the can down the road. Kick the can down the road when we politically have to. What will interest be? Well, that's the point. I mean, if you start issuing bonds, right, people are... There's a lot of these longer-term structural problems in the United States, which is why treasuries are at like 5% at a 30-year, which is insane. And that is because we're going to have to print a lot of money

in order to kind of, 'cause we're not speaking about-- - And there has to be a buyer for that, and that buyer is other governments, other institutions. They have to want that, right? They have to want those bonds, and they have to-- - Well yeah, a good deal. - At some interest rate, you'll take those bonds. The market participants will take those bonds, and that's why if the interest rate gets higher, meaning the prices on the bonds get lower, suddenly folks are like, okay, I'll take that at 6%, 7%. I'll buy U.S. Treasuries that are paying me 8% for 30 years, sure. And so the market is continuing to show us

that over the long term, the US government needs to pay a higher and higher interest rate in order to keep people loaning money to the US federal government. - I mean if you try to, you probably had this happen in your company where-- - This goes to my point, if Doge actually works,

restructure spending and someone in the next four years, look, you're not going to do it before the midterm. There's just no way because they've got enough that they're going to try and get done before the midterm. Trump is by default a lame duck, right? He's by default a lame duck, so maybe he can do some things. He doesn't have to worry about voting blocks if he's out in four years. He does have to think about...

not doing what Biden did to Kamala. These guys have a 15-month sprint right now. 15 months until the midterms really kick in. So if you're going to do some damage in terms of the voters are going to be pissed off because you did something, you might as well go all the way.

So over the next 15 months, they're going to have to go as hard, as fast, as deep cut as they possibly can if these things are going to work. Because if you only go part way, you're done. No matter what, you're losing votes, and it's going to be a very hard midterm. This is your one window. This is such a waste of time. They've got all these pastors and rabbis and priests. Nobody wants to hear from these folks. Why don't they have all the...

people in the administration come up and talk about their plans. Oh, that'd be sick, actually, yeah. Yeah, or have Bezos, Elon, Sundar each say a few words. Yeah. That would have been much more interesting than like, oh, another prayer. Yeah, great. It's like a little bit of virtue signaling when they do this. Yeah, it's very annoying.

All right. Are we rossing? I think we're going to wrap. Oh, go ahead. Oh, yeah. So come on, girls. Come over here. Sit next to your dad. These are Mark Benkis' amazing daughters, Georgia and Carmen. Now, what you're going to have to do, we don't have any handhelds, do we?

Don't worry about it. We don't have handouts, so just take your lav and just hand it. And maybe you could take your lav and just put it right near her. You're going to just talk into the lav. You don't have to get too close, about six inches. So just introduce yourself. Tell everybody your names. Hi, I'm Carmen. I'm Georgia. And you're Carmen. I'm Carmen. How did that come across for the sound team? Okay, now how old are you? We're 14. Yeah. Wait a second. You're both his daughter and you're both the same age? How'd that happen?

We're twins. Ah, that explains it. I was wondering. This was getting a little complicated here. Now you're 14. What's the best thing about being Mark Pincus' daughters? What's the best thing about being Mark Pincus' daughters? We've been friends since before you guys were around, 30 years.

I love your dad. He's so awesome. But tell me, what do you love about dad? Well, he's always talking about really interesting things. He always has really interesting views, and I like to hear his views about politics, games, new things. And he always asks us for our opinions, which I think is really nice. He sends us games to try, and he's like, do you guys think your friends would play them? He gives us opportunities to educate ourselves and form opinions for ourselves.

Even just having conversations with you over dinner is really interesting. That's so sweet. I told your dad one time. I saw your dad with you guys when you were growing up, surfing and Wyatt. And I said, Mark, you are such an amazing dad. And I just want to tell you that because I watch you and the patience you have with these kids. It's so beautiful. And we've been friends for 30 years. Yeah, no, amazing. And I watch you with these girls. You're so impressive. Now, I heard you like podcasting.

Yeah. And my daughter's interested in podcasting. And then some other besties have daughters who are around your age, and they think a podcast is kind of cool. There are rumors going around that the all-in besties kids might do a podcast. Is this a true rumor? Yes. It is true? I'd say it's in the working. Whoa, this is in the brainstorming phase? Yeah.

I'm just going to call it maybe the Nepo Pod. The Nepo Pod. That's funny. What's it been like since your dad has gotten involved in politics and maybe changed teams? You live in San Francisco. It's a pretty left-leaning town. Do your friends give you a hard time? Are they watching your dad on social? Who told your dad to be public about it? That was Carmen because she didn't tell her friends where she was going this weekend.

She not even just didn't tell, she also had to lie about it. I'm in a different situation. My friends don't really care, but we also do go to different schools. So I kind of had to lie a little bit. Hopefully this is a little bit...

early for them um i had to lie a little bit because i don't think my friends are like very left and i don't think they really like the right i'm not in the right i would say i think i'm in the middle okay but i don't and i came to this inauguration like testing it out seeing like what my opinions are about politics and so i didn't really want to tell my friends if i wasn't sure like

where I am because I'll stand where I am, but I'm still figuring it out. This is an important lesson. People get a little spicy over politics. Yeah. And the fact that you're having to navigate it now, that's actually a good thing and your dad's here to talk to you about it. And some people might, yeah, they might have strong opinions. Do you guys think you would ever want to be working in government? Yeah, maybe.

We'll see. Well, I was going to ask you guys. Early stage political career development here. Well, you guys actually started a brand at some point. I remember you had a clothing line and you're very... Go check it out. Let's get a plug here. Yeah, plug it. What's the name of your clothing line? Our brand is called Comfy Fancy. I'm not affiliated. She used to be in it. We're supposed to be. But the...

Idea is that it's called comfy fancy so you get best of both worlds, huh? And I'm the comfy one She's a fancy one obviously you well listen co-founders break up sometimes it happens we start up say now you're the CEO yeah It's going pretty slowly at the moment moment because I have school and yes sports But it's fun to do it's fun to like learn how business works and design so use the promo code all in a comfy fancy and 10% off and

Yeah. Comfy fancy sprints. Awesome. Now what about you? Do you have a career path you want to go on? Are you thinking about things in your career or are you just enjoying life as a 14-year-old? Well, I'm definitely interested in tech and AI. Really? And being an entrepreneur. And right now I actually work for my dad at Daughter of Earth AI. Nice. I've been doing some game testing and

presenting to you. Nice. So you get to work with your dad. That's a dream come true for your dad. Yes. That is the greatest thing ever to go to work and see your daughters come. I'm begging my daughters to come. I'm hoping one of them will want to do angel investing with me.

It'd be great if two did. And what do you guys do in terms of sports or activities? And then we'll wrap up. Do you have any sports you like to do? I know you guys surfed a bit. What do you guys like to do with sports? Why? Do you ski? Do you surf? Well, we both play tennis. Yeah. And I just started playing water polo. And you joined a surf team. Yeah. She's on a competitive surf team. Wow. Yeah. And they've done ski racing. Mm-hmm. You did ski racing? Yeah. Yeah, that's one of our...

How fast do you go? They pass me in skiing now. How fast do you go? How many miles per hour? She likes to go fast. Well, I think my fastest this year, we use this app. Slopes? Yeah, slopes. Oh, you use slopes. We should add each other as friends. Yeah. This year, I went like 60 miles an hour. What? She likes to talk fast. No, no, 63. 63 miles. My record's 54. Wow. You're going 10 miles an hour faster than your Uncle Jason. That's crazy.

What about you? Do you also use slubs? No, I don't use slubs. I just like skiing. You enjoy it. Are you a powder hound or do you like groomers? I like groomers and powder, but she just talks down the mountain and I'm like, oh, bye, Georgia. She'll meet you at the lodge. She'll meet you at the bottom of the lift. All right. This has been an amazing episode of the All In Podcast. Continued success to you young ladies. It's very...

It's just so rewarding to see you guys turn into young women and you have entrepreneurial and your dad just so you know I know it's hard sometimes like to think your dad's cool. That's really cool He's a great friend and he's super smart and kind you hit the dad jackpot your mom's also pretty great, too I know her she is I get to hang out with her time and

Akash, thank you for coming. Thank you. Thanks, bro. Great. Come back anytime. Yeah. And where can people find you? Yeah. I'm seeing on Instagram, TikTok, all that. A-K-A-A-S-H. Akash Singh on YouTube. Check it out. Unbelievable. We want to come see you live. Yeah.

Yeah, how do you San Francisco or just New York all my dates are on my website. I'll catch thing calm But yeah, I'm gonna hit San Francisco. Well, we'll all be there. Yeah, that'll be awesome. I'll be a fun now Can the kids come with a to race you for 14 good? They're good. You got it. It's PG 13 PG 13 probably Yeah, okay, so they've heard girls that we may hear some words that are a little choice that your dad doesn't use So be careful. Okay, you don't repeat those at school in San Francisco free bird. Great job Good luck with the hangover. You seem like you took it slow last night

I'm just rolling through the weekend here, bro. Just rolling. I'll get there. It's all good. It's been great. You kind of get a lot of energy. You go from one event to the next here. It's been good. It's been great. And thank you to our partners as well as the amazing technical team here. If you could see the amount of work it took to do this, it was extraordinary. So thank you to John and to the entire team, producer Nick, and all the video editors. Shout out to Nick. Shout out to John. Shout out to the drivers. Great job. And to Americans.

we got through four years of Trump before. We got through four years of Biden. Let's make the most of it. Get behind your president, even if you didn't vote for him. Give him the benefit of the doubt. Let's see what he can do in the second time. He's got a great team around him. Let's support the heck out of him to solve these big problems for Americans. Even if you didn't vote for him, it's okay for you to root for him. And we will see you all next time on the All In Podcast.