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Biden chaos, Soft landing secured? AI sentiment turns bearish, French elections

2024/7/12
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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

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Chamath Palihapitiya
以深刻的投资见解和社会资本主义理念而闻名的风险投资家和企业家。
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David Friedberg
美国企业家、商人和天使投资者,创立并领导了The Climate Corporation和The Production Board。
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David Sacks
一位在房地产法和技术政策领域都有影响力的律师和学者。
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Jason Calacanis
一位多才多艺的美国互联网企业家、天使投资人和播客主持人,投资过多家知名初创公司,并主持多个影响广泛的播客节目。
Topics
@David Friedberg :市场已经消化了降息预期,但主要受前七大科技公司股价上涨推动,整体市场估值仍较高。 @Chamath Palihapitiya :尽管七家科技公司股价创历史新高,但整体经济可能面临收缩,未来几个季度可能出现经济衰退。 @David Sacks :美联储反应过慢,但自此之后采取了必要的措施来控制通胀,通胀率的微小变化不应被过度解读。 @Jason Calacanis :人们对经济的看法存在党派偏见,这使得对经济形势的判断更加复杂。

Deep Dive

All In Podcast 186: 宏观经济、AI泡沫与政治视角

最近一期All In Podcast探讨了宏观经济、AI投资热潮以及美国政治格局等话题。几位主持人对当前经济形势和科技发展趋势表达了各自的观点,观点之间既有共识,也有分歧,呈现出多角度的分析。

市场估值与潜在经济衰退

David Friedberg认为,市场已经消化了美联储即将降息的预期。然而,他指出,当前股市涨势主要由前七大科技公司股价上涨推动,整体市场估值仍然偏高。这与Chamath Palihapitiya的观点形成对比。Chamath认为,尽管少数科技巨头股价创下新高,但整体经济可能面临收缩,未来几个季度甚至可能出现经济衰退。他强调,并非所有公司都受益于当前的市场繁荣,许多公司并未感受到经济的积极影响。

通胀与美联储的应对

David Sacks对美联储的应对策略进行了评价。他认为,美联储起初反应过慢,但随后采取了必要的措施来控制通胀。他提醒大家不要过度解读通胀率的微小变化,因为这些变化幅度并不显著。

党派偏见与经济认知

Jason Calacanis 则指出,人们对经济的看法存在明显的党派偏见。这种偏见使得对经济形势的判断更加复杂,不同政治立场的人对同一组经济数据会有截然不同的解读。他展示了一张图表,直观地展现了不同党派支持者对经济形势的评价差异,这种差异在经济危机或选举期间会暂时缩小。

AI投资热潮的反思

关于AI投资热潮,几位主持人表达了谨慎乐观的态度。他们一致认为,目前AI领域的投资规模巨大,但相应的营收增长却难以匹配。 巨额的资本投入主要集中在基础设施建设上,例如大规模GPU集群的建设。 这引发了对AI投资可持续性的担忧。 虽然AI技术本身具有巨大潜力,但目前其应用仍处于早期阶段,许多应用的商业模式尚未清晰,投资回报率存在不确定性。 Andreessen Horowitz斥巨资建设的2万个GPU集群,也成为讨论的焦点,引发了关于这种投资策略是否明智的讨论。 这种投资被解读为既有商业目的,也有战略意义上的竞争布局。

法国大选与全球政治趋势

此外,节目还讨论了法国大选的结果,以及由此反映出的全球政治趋势。 法国大选结果显示,左翼和中间派力量结盟,成功阻止了右翼势力的崛起。 这一结果引发了对全球范围内社会主义思潮兴起以及对自由市场经济模式挑战的讨论。 主持人就这种趋势的成因、影响以及潜在风险进行了深入分析,并将其与美国等其他国家的政治局势进行了比较。

拜登总统的连任前景

节目最后部分,主持人还讨论了美国总统拜登的连任前景。 拜登总统的健康状况和竞选资金问题成为关注焦点,几位主持人对拜登的连任能力表达了担忧,并预测可能出现“快速初选”的局面,以应对拜登可能退选的情况。 他们认为,当前美国政治环境复杂,各种因素交织在一起,使得选举结果难以预测。

总而言之,本期All In Podcast 提供了对宏观经济、AI投资以及全球政治格局的全面而深入的分析,展现了不同视角下的观点碰撞,为听众理解当前复杂形势提供了有益参考。

Chapters
The hosts discuss the current macroeconomic situation, analyzing recent CPI data, unemployment figures, and stock market performance. They debate whether a soft landing has been achieved, considering the potential for a future economic contraction and the impact of high interest rates on investments.
  • CPI came in at 3%, signaling a potential slowdown in inflation.
  • Unemployment rate rose to 4.1%, the highest since 2021.
  • S&P 500 is up 26% since last year, driven largely by the performance of tech giants.
  • There's a debate on whether the Fed should reset inflation expectations from 2% to 3%.
  • Partisan economic perception significantly influences public opinion on the economy's health.

Shownotes Transcript

(0:00) Bestie intros!

(4:29) Macro picture: Soft landing secured? Rate cut on the horizon? Plus: partisan economic perception

(20:48) AI sentiment turns bearish due to massive spend with little revenue

(40:51) A16Z's 20K GPU cluster

(46:41) Broad implications of France elections

(1:06:10) Hot swap update: President Biden holds firm as backers flee, press corps chaos, speed-run primary chances

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