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Jared Isaacman: What went wrong at NASA | The All-In Interview

2025/6/4
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Jared Isaacman: 我从小就对太空充满热情,这种热情源于小时候看的电影。我在16岁时开始了我的日常工作,并在工作之余培养了对飞行的热情,逐渐形成了航空和商业的并行职业生涯。为了能加入空军国民警卫队或预备役,我回到学校获得了学位。我们成立了一家名为 Drakken 的国防公司,为国防部和空军扮演专业“坏人”,模拟敌方战术。我认为在商业太空和埃隆在 SpaceX 所做的事情之后,Drakken 是第二酷的公司。与埃隆相比,我同时运营两家公司的责任显得微不足道。

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This chapter explores Jared Isaacman's remarkable journey from a teenage entrepreneur to a pioneering commercial astronaut. It covers his parallel careers in finance and aviation, highlighting his impressive achievements in both fields, including founding the billion-dollar fintech company Shift4 and amassing thousands of hours in fighter jet flight time.
  • Founded Shift4 Payments at age 16
  • Accumulated 7,000 hours flying fighter jets
  • Set a world record for around-the-world flight in 2009
  • Founded Drakken International, a defense company

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(0:00) David Friedberg welcomes Jared Isaacman

(1:10) Jared's background: billion-dollar founder, pilot, commercial astronaut

(7:15) Relationship with Elon Musk, road to becoming a commercial astronaut

(16:37) Becoming Trump's nominee to lead NASA, the major issues at NASA and his plan to fix things

(31:52) Breaking down NASA's proposed budget cuts, the space race against China, private vs public space industry

(48:31) The truth behind Jared's nomination being withdrawn by President Trump

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Referenced in the show:

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114605559474286180)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pv01sSq44w)

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1439412791815950336)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaJmUUtr2SI)